@BenBistro004 The names of the songs are in the info of this video. As for the songs themselves, you can hear samples of all of them on valor's website (google "Valor Music" and then when you get to the site, click the "music" link. I can't seem to post direct links in youtube comments, sorry about this!). I don't know if he's still with Valor, though, or if Valor even is together anymore. Try google searching his name and you might find some recent info about him. Hope this helps.
Taddeo sings without a microphone in a large hall. He sings solo. In groups natural singing can go a little lower than that but not much. The problem is that unlike the top where the voice just suddenly stops (you can either sing a High C or you can't) the low voice trails off into inaudibility as it goes lower. Lots of people can make a sound below Low C but you can't hear them standing right next to them. The mic fixes that up. Especially a cardioid mic.
@Agorante I know what you mean. However, one prominent bass singer that doesn't use vocal fry or any other tricks is Tim Riley of Gold City. I actually talked to him after a concert and he showed me a climb down from G2 to G1. I could still hear the tone loud and clear down to about Bb1 or A1. And he didn't have a microphone while he did that. I'm sure if there were no people talking in the room he could have gone down to F1 without a mic and I could have heard the tone clearly.
@GamingDrummer89 I don't object to vocal fry or anything else if it supports the music. Some singers can slip in and out of fry just as tenors can slip in and out of falsetto. It can be terrible if done poorly (think Tiny Tim or Slim Whitman). You might want to check out "Fra l'Ombre e Gl'orrori" maybe the lowest opera aria (also one of the highest). However most of the singers are in fact very light bass-baritones so as to manage the high notes.
@bottomfeeder73 Yeah, pretty much anything lower than about Eb1 is vocal fry (aka fake) for Tim Storms. JD Sumner could sing Eb1's way better than Tim Storms. I used to think Tim Storms was awesome until I found out how to tell vocal fry apart from real bass singing. Now he's just kinda good in my book. I'd rather hear a nice full voice G1 than that F0 any day. Lol, I pretty much put Tim Storms in here just to have a note below the piano.
@BenBistro004 It's a B1.. A B1 is the second B on the low side of the piano (the second on up from the bottom), and that's what his note seems to be. When you say B2, do you mean the second B up from the bottom of the piano or the third one? It's definitely not the third B, which is a B2. You might be using a different notation, but either way Josh's note there is the second B on the piano. Try playing the note on the piano and then listen to Josh sing it and you'll hear it.
Will someone please help me on this. I am trying to understand "double Low G" and other notes like that. Ok, if I strike a middle C on my piano and I hit the G to the left of it, is that low G? And the next G down lower is a Double Low G and the last one would be a tripple low G? Thanks so much for helping me on this.
@look4hiram (continued from last post) The letters and # (sharp) or b (flat) symbols are the notes themselves. The number denotes which octave it belongs to. Just look at the little "chart" I put in the previous post. Hope this helps! :)
@bubes00 I have been told that Sarah Vaughn could sing a C2(!!!!), but I've never actually heard her do it. I heard her sing a G2 before though, which is insanely low for a woman. She did smoke all her life though, so that might have aided her in getting low.
If they can sing it without a mic and still be heard from the other side of the hall then that's different. just most of them can't.
I sing bass myself, I bottom out in full voice at about C2, sometimes a little lower. However I can make 'noises' that basically go to the end of a piano. Singing they are not though. However I can make it sound like a lot of the latter half here. Not as good but then I don't bother practicing it....
@daevilone87 Actually it doesn't depend on volume whether or not it is fry. Vocal fry is basically vibrating your throat and it has very little if any tone. I can hear tone in most of these and it doesn't have the same "dry" quality as vocal fry.
I've been told that Tim Riley, who is in this video, has sung as low as F1 without a microphone and can be heard at the other end of a decent sized room. And Tim himself told me once that he does not use vocal fry. (continued in next post).
@daevilone87 (continued from last post) Another couple things to remember are that pretty much all notes lower than around C2 or B1 will have an almost "broken up" quality to them even when they are sung in full voice. Even JD, who you see hear, who has a smooth voice that sounds like a bass guitar, will have a slightly broken up sound to his voice. And so will pianos and any other instrument that goes this low. It's because the frequency is extremely low. (continued in next post).
@daevilone87 (continued from last post) And secondly, not only do low frequencies sound broken up because you can hear the individual vibrations, but it also requires a LOT more power to get these notes to have significant volume. This is another thing Tim Riley told me. He said that the lower the frequency, the more air it takes to push out. You can hear an electric guitar decently without an amp, but not with an electric bass. Why? Because it's LOW. (continued in next post)
@daevilone87 (continued from last post) The bass guitar isn't frying the notes just because it requires amplification. Heck, in some cases these bass singers can be heard with no mics while singing with other people.
Sorry for the long response, haha, but I usually need a lot of room to explain what the difference between fry and full voice is and sounds like, and not only that by also why just because a note can't be projected without amplification doesn't make it vocal fry.
@heirtothepwn it's unusual, but then again I also was able to sing that low at that age in full voice. I'm 17 right now and my range has actualy gone down even further since then. I'll need to check to see what it is now.
It's one thing to hit those ultra low notes, but it's another to sound good doing it. When these guys hit the really low notes they sound like shit. That's why Richard Sterben is, in MHO, THE best. He sounds awesome even when pushing his vocal chords. JD may be slightly lower but you can almost hear his voice telling him to "fuck off, this hurts."
@MrEvillarry Richard is indeed a great bass singer. He sounds great down to at least a G1, and his C2s are hard to beat.
But I'd hardly say J.D. sounds bad when he's really low. I will admit his voice gets somewhat muddy when he gets that low but he still has plenty of tone in his voice.
My personal top 3 favorites (with Richard Sterban as my 4th favorite) are Tim Riley, London Parris, and "Big Chief". You can see some of London and Big Chief in my other 2 bass videos.
@MrEvillarry And some people will likely get mad or offended because of what I'm about to say, but I will admit to not being a huge fan of Mike Holcomb's lower range. Tim Riley, London Parris, Richard Sterban, Big Chief Wetherington, Aaron McCune, Eric Bennett, George Younce, and many others have mostly clear tone when they get really low.
But to me, Mike Holcomb's lower notes almost sound like a bass guitar with too much distortion effects on it. So I somewhat agree with you on him.
"the highest note in my bass videos will be E2" <- in description, im in my high school choir im a bass and i can go down to D2 holy shit this is low.
@WTFisJamieUp2 Yeah it is low. Usually a bass in a choir is the equivalent of a baritone in a quartet (Since you are at a D2, you are probably lower than the average high school student), and a tenor in a choir is the equivalent of a lead in a quartet.
@WTFisJamieUp2 I think you mean a B1. Since each octave starts at C, it'd be a B1. When you say you can sing a D2, you do mean the second D up from the bottom of the piano, right? If so, your friend would be going to a B1.
@GamingDrummer89 I hit an F1 today, and I can't go as low as usual. I'm gonna see how low I can go after I get over this sore throat. I'm a 16 year old in choir
Just listened to him...Tim Riley and George Younce are still the best overall if you ask me, but I'm very impressed...He sounds like he's hitting a B0 in one of your videos (and in mixed/full voice, too!). J.D. Sumner and Paul David Kennamer are still the only 2 I know for sure can go below the piano in full voice, but a B0 is close. I'm gonna have to include a few clips for Nic in my next bass video!
I just listened to him to and he's low but has very poor quality when he gets below about a G1/Ab1. And he is not the lowest bass singer on earth. Take into account PDK, Tim Storms, and J.D Sumner. He's not bad though.
He's the bass singer from the group "Valor"...don't know if they're still performing or not, though. Just check out biglhot75's video called ****WORLDS LOWEST BASS SINGER****. There's a bunch of clips in that video, including his C0-C1 slide!
I actually looked up who did the vocals, and Mike Rowe actually did them all himself...it was funny how Dave Barsky lip synced to it, though...I was cracking up the first time I heard the song on tv, lol!
Only thing I can think of is that he had to conserve as much air as possible on the lower notes...those high notes must take a heck of a lot of air and lung power to belt out. Also, I don't think that first note was even close to vocal fry (unless you mean that it was likely getting close to the bottom of his chest voice range, then you'd be right).
It came from a video uploaded by youtuber markcash...it's from 1996 when the Inspirations Quartet performed it live. Mike Holcomb does the C1 twice in this performance (though the second time it seems he goes into the vocal fry range).
Could you (uploader) possibly tell me the song that Paul David Kennamer sings, and also if there's a way to get some of his material. Thnaks :)
BenBistro004 1 month ago
@BenBistro004 The names of the songs are in the info of this video. As for the songs themselves, you can hear samples of all of them on valor's website (google "Valor Music" and then when you get to the site, click the "music" link. I can't seem to post direct links in youtube comments, sorry about this!). I don't know if he's still with Valor, though, or if Valor even is together anymore. Try google searching his name and you might find some recent info about him. Hope this helps.
GamingDrummer89 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@GamingDrummer89 Thanks for your help :)
BenBistro004 1 month ago
Taddeo sings without a microphone in a large hall. He sings solo. In groups natural singing can go a little lower than that but not much. The problem is that unlike the top where the voice just suddenly stops (you can either sing a High C or you can't) the low voice trails off into inaudibility as it goes lower. Lots of people can make a sound below Low C but you can't hear them standing right next to them. The mic fixes that up. Especially a cardioid mic.
Agorante 1 month ago
@Agorante I know what you mean. However, one prominent bass singer that doesn't use vocal fry or any other tricks is Tim Riley of Gold City. I actually talked to him after a concert and he showed me a climb down from G2 to G1. I could still hear the tone loud and clear down to about Bb1 or A1. And he didn't have a microphone while he did that. I'm sure if there were no people talking in the room he could have gone down to F1 without a mic and I could have heard the tone clearly.
GamingDrummer89 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@GamingDrummer89 I don't object to vocal fry or anything else if it supports the music. Some singers can slip in and out of fry just as tenors can slip in and out of falsetto. It can be terrible if done poorly (think Tiny Tim or Slim Whitman). You might want to check out "Fra l'Ombre e Gl'orrori" maybe the lowest opera aria (also one of the highest). However most of the singers are in fact very light bass-baritones so as to manage the high notes.
Agorante 1 month ago
Tim Storms part is just a joke.
bottomfeeder73 2 months ago
@bottomfeeder73 Yeah, pretty much anything lower than about Eb1 is vocal fry (aka fake) for Tim Storms. JD Sumner could sing Eb1's way better than Tim Storms. I used to think Tim Storms was awesome until I found out how to tell vocal fry apart from real bass singing. Now he's just kinda good in my book. I'd rather hear a nice full voice G1 than that F0 any day. Lol, I pretty much put Tim Storms in here just to have a note below the piano.
GamingDrummer89 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
You made an error. Josh Turner's "B1", is actually a B2.
BenBistro004 2 months ago
@BenBistro004 It's a B1.. A B1 is the second B on the low side of the piano (the second on up from the bottom), and that's what his note seems to be. When you say B2, do you mean the second B up from the bottom of the piano or the third one? It's definitely not the third B, which is a B2. You might be using a different notation, but either way Josh's note there is the second B on the piano. Try playing the note on the piano and then listen to Josh sing it and you'll hear it.
GamingDrummer89 2 months ago
I am probably a bass and this fucking ruined my dream.
WhiteSunGroupoff 2 months ago
TIM STORMS AND MIKE HOLCOMB YOU MUTANTS!!! Those are so scary.
WillieG1016 2 months ago
Will someone please help me on this. I am trying to understand "double Low G" and other notes like that. Ok, if I strike a middle C on my piano and I hit the G to the left of it, is that low G? And the next G down lower is a Double Low G and the last one would be a tripple low G? Thanks so much for helping me on this.
look4hiram 3 months ago
@look4hiram Here are the names and numbers of the octaves on a piano as well as their respective notes:
Triple Low (Subcontra, 0): First two notes on the low side of the piano, A and B
Double Low (Contra, 1): Lowest C on the piano up to the next B.
Low (Great, 2): Second C on the piano up to the next B.
Small, 3: Third C on the piano up to the next B.
One-line, 4: Middle C up to the next B
And so on for Two-line (5), Three-line (6), Four-line (7), and Five line (8).
GamingDrummer89 3 months ago
@look4hiram (continued from last post) The letters and # (sharp) or b (flat) symbols are the notes themselves. The number denotes which octave it belongs to. Just look at the little "chart" I put in the previous post. Hope this helps! :)
GamingDrummer89 3 months ago
Why is everyone always 14?
Anyway, im 14 too, and I can go as low as C2 and then up to G4 in chest. I think thats good :)
lews611712 3 months ago
dude i'm 14 and i can go just as low if not lower but i cant sing worth crap awsome
snakeman141 5 months ago
I wish there was an equivalent low notes video for women
bubes00 7 months ago
@bubes00 I have been told that Sarah Vaughn could sing a C2(!!!!), but I've never actually heard her do it. I heard her sing a G2 before though, which is insanely low for a woman. She did smoke all her life though, so that might have aided her in getting low.
GamingDrummer89 5 months ago
Sorry but a lot of that is fry in my book...
If they can sing it without a mic and still be heard from the other side of the hall then that's different. just most of them can't.
I sing bass myself, I bottom out in full voice at about C2, sometimes a little lower. However I can make 'noises' that basically go to the end of a piano. Singing they are not though. However I can make it sound like a lot of the latter half here. Not as good but then I don't bother practicing it....
daevilone87 7 months ago
@daevilone87 Actually it doesn't depend on volume whether or not it is fry. Vocal fry is basically vibrating your throat and it has very little if any tone. I can hear tone in most of these and it doesn't have the same "dry" quality as vocal fry.
I've been told that Tim Riley, who is in this video, has sung as low as F1 without a microphone and can be heard at the other end of a decent sized room. And Tim himself told me once that he does not use vocal fry. (continued in next post).
GamingDrummer89 7 months ago
@daevilone87 (continued from last post) Another couple things to remember are that pretty much all notes lower than around C2 or B1 will have an almost "broken up" quality to them even when they are sung in full voice. Even JD, who you see hear, who has a smooth voice that sounds like a bass guitar, will have a slightly broken up sound to his voice. And so will pianos and any other instrument that goes this low. It's because the frequency is extremely low. (continued in next post).
GamingDrummer89 7 months ago
@daevilone87 (continued from last post) And secondly, not only do low frequencies sound broken up because you can hear the individual vibrations, but it also requires a LOT more power to get these notes to have significant volume. This is another thing Tim Riley told me. He said that the lower the frequency, the more air it takes to push out. You can hear an electric guitar decently without an amp, but not with an electric bass. Why? Because it's LOW. (continued in next post)
GamingDrummer89 7 months ago
@daevilone87 (continued from last post) The bass guitar isn't frying the notes just because it requires amplification. Heck, in some cases these bass singers can be heard with no mics while singing with other people.
Sorry for the long response, haha, but I usually need a lot of room to explain what the difference between fry and full voice is and sounds like, and not only that by also why just because a note can't be projected without amplification doesn't make it vocal fry.
GamingDrummer89 7 months ago
Is it strange for a 14 yearold to be singing a G1? bc I can...
heirtothepwn 7 months ago
@heirtothepwn i doubt it. make a video. you probably mean G2
AeroDynamicMKW 7 months ago
@heirtothepwn proof or you're lying.
DJbuulOFFICIAL 6 months ago
@heirtothepwn it's unusual, but then again I also was able to sing that low at that age in full voice. I'm 17 right now and my range has actualy gone down even further since then. I'll need to check to see what it is now.
Awesomedude124 5 months ago
How come these are mostly all old white guys singing gospel? nyone know where I can find some other types of music to practice my low register to?
rcollins0618 9 months ago
It's one thing to hit those ultra low notes, but it's another to sound good doing it. When these guys hit the really low notes they sound like shit. That's why Richard Sterben is, in MHO, THE best. He sounds awesome even when pushing his vocal chords. JD may be slightly lower but you can almost hear his voice telling him to "fuck off, this hurts."
MrEvillarry 9 months ago
@MrEvillarry Richard is indeed a great bass singer. He sounds great down to at least a G1, and his C2s are hard to beat.
But I'd hardly say J.D. sounds bad when he's really low. I will admit his voice gets somewhat muddy when he gets that low but he still has plenty of tone in his voice.
My personal top 3 favorites (with Richard Sterban as my 4th favorite) are Tim Riley, London Parris, and "Big Chief". You can see some of London and Big Chief in my other 2 bass videos.
GamingDrummer89 9 months ago
@MrEvillarry And some people will likely get mad or offended because of what I'm about to say, but I will admit to not being a huge fan of Mike Holcomb's lower range. Tim Riley, London Parris, Richard Sterban, Big Chief Wetherington, Aaron McCune, Eric Bennett, George Younce, and many others have mostly clear tone when they get really low.
But to me, Mike Holcomb's lower notes almost sound like a bass guitar with too much distortion effects on it. So I somewhat agree with you on him.
GamingDrummer89 9 months ago
the last one sounds like a motorcycle
120513ix 9 months ago
What was JD's highest note? The highest I'm aware of is a C#4 and an E4 in falsetto.
CuriosityRoads 9 months ago
Tim Riley is my all time favorite... I think of my grandpa every time I hear him sing.
WVENGINEERING 10 months ago
What was the song that Paul David Kennamer sang at 6.53?
T3ke0ut 11 months ago
How Great Thou Art by valor....paul kenemmer hit a triple low C
AAaudio710 1 year ago
Mike Rowe.
I lol'd
BranCrotes 1 year ago
holy shit mike rowe is freakin beast.
Larsonthedrummerboy 1 year ago
Hey, Tim Storms touches an Ab0/B0 in a video!
panda123456789ed 1 year ago
@panda123456789ed Yup, that's the amazing grace video. He touches on the A0 and then jumps right up to a C1.
GamingDrummer89 1 year ago
hey sometime soon i'll put up a bass demo. if youd like to watch it i'll send it to you once its up.
MountainDude300 1 year ago
"the highest note in my bass videos will be E2" <- in description, im in my high school choir im a bass and i can go down to D2 holy shit this is low.
WTFisJamieUp2 1 year ago
@WTFisJamieUp2 Yeah it is low. Usually a bass in a choir is the equivalent of a baritone in a quartet (Since you are at a D2, you are probably lower than the average high school student), and a tenor in a choir is the equivalent of a lead in a quartet.
GamingDrummer89 1 year ago
@GamingDrummer89 yea and then my friend shames me by getting down to B2
WTFisJamieUp2 1 year ago
@WTFisJamieUp2 I think you mean a B1. Since each octave starts at C, it'd be a B1. When you say you can sing a D2, you do mean the second D up from the bottom of the piano, right? If so, your friend would be going to a B1.
GamingDrummer89 1 year ago
@GamingDrummer89 yes sorry about that i dont usually name the notes with the corrosponding octave number so he sings to B1
WTFisJamieUp2 1 year ago
@GamingDrummer89 I hit an F1 today, and I can't go as low as usual. I'm gonna see how low I can go after I get over this sore throat. I'm a 16 year old in choir
IchBinSchtiffy 11 months ago
@IchBinSchtiffy In full voice? If so that's a major gift. I know Tim Riley told me he could do a low C at age 14 so you must have a deep voice.
GamingDrummer89 8 months ago
@GamingDrummer89 what is an average high school student?
MountainDude300 1 year ago
some of these are almost inaudible lol... LOW
123476565656 1 year ago
Lmao freaky.
BellaWay2135 1 year ago
What?
hellraiser42000 1 year ago
What?
hellraiser42000 1 year ago
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hellraiser42000 1 year ago
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hellraiser42000 1 year ago
wanna hear a real bass check out lowest bass NIC VAL with the blackwoods
Bassclef50 1 year ago
Just listened to him...Tim Riley and George Younce are still the best overall if you ask me, but I'm very impressed...He sounds like he's hitting a B0 in one of your videos (and in mixed/full voice, too!). J.D. Sumner and Paul David Kennamer are still the only 2 I know for sure can go below the piano in full voice, but a B0 is close. I'm gonna have to include a few clips for Nic in my next bass video!
GamingDrummer89 1 year ago
@GamingDrummer89 JD Sumner is my favorite bass singer, I sing some of his songs here on youtube, I'm a bass singer too.
maybe you'll check them out and give me some hints or tell me if I'm any good?
RockcatGlenn 1 year ago
I just listened to him to and he's low but has very poor quality when he gets below about a G1/Ab1. And he is not the lowest bass singer on earth. Take into account PDK, Tim Storms, and J.D Sumner. He's not bad though.
dabeinman 1 year ago
Please give me more info on Paul David Kennamer. I have never come across that name before, and he really does have a good bass!
PoMilostiEvo 1 year ago
He's the bass singer from the group "Valor"...don't know if they're still performing or not, though. Just check out biglhot75's video called ****WORLDS LOWEST BASS SINGER****. There's a bunch of clips in that video, including his C0-C1 slide!
GamingDrummer89 1 year ago
This is a good collection...
bbqckentre 2 years ago
FTW dave barski at 1:40!
scottjop656 2 years ago
I actually looked up who did the vocals, and Mike Rowe actually did them all himself...it was funny how Dave Barsky lip synced to it, though...I was cracking up the first time I heard the song on tv, lol!
GamingDrummer89 2 years ago
i was wondering why it sounded like him! anyways its my favorite theme song. second would be mythbusters haha
scottjop656 2 years ago
come on that first note was pretty fast and for me, bordering on a vocal fry -why is he rushing? lol
CaptivityHurts2 2 years ago
Only thing I can think of is that he had to conserve as much air as possible on the lower notes...those high notes must take a heck of a lot of air and lung power to belt out. Also, I don't think that first note was even close to vocal fry (unless you mean that it was likely getting close to the bottom of his chest voice range, then you'd be right).
GamingDrummer89 2 years ago
Mike Holcomb was awesome on that song! Which recording did that come from?
gospelmusiclover48 2 years ago
It came from a video uploaded by youtuber markcash...it's from 1996 when the Inspirations Quartet performed it live. Mike Holcomb does the C1 twice in this performance (though the second time it seems he goes into the vocal fry range).
GamingDrummer89 2 years ago
Btw, who was the group that was singing it's almost over?
BnCSGMusic 2 years ago
The group is Valor. I've tried to reply to this question several times, and my post doesn't seem to be posted, lol. Sorry.
GamingDrummer89 2 years ago
Great video man.
BnCSGMusic 2 years ago