101 East - Indonesia's Islamic future - 27 Dec 07 - Part 1

[byomjan]

Indonesia was a Hindu and Budhhist country ..When and why they got trapped in such a barbaric mid east religion ?such unfortunate people.. now they will kill people and kill among themselves like pakistan..

[R3dSt4r90]

there is no god.. when you die, you are dead. so stop wasting time with this religious bullshit

[muhasyim]

@cryfreeedom well that becouse some country want to make midle east boiled....and about egypt murdering cristian..you better read the news coretly....dont make you own opinion....islam never force people to convert....and some of the libyan is traitor kiling their own people whit the help of the west....the west help libyan traitor to destroy their own country..the roasen gadaffi force killing them ..tha totali bullshit...mean wile palestine been bom by israeli..the west do nothing...

[karelingab]

@muhasyim How about ambonese force by satanist laskar jihads into muslim in year 2001? Is that muslims doesn't force non-muslim into muslims? Liar, and I know who are you!

[muhasyim]

@cryfreeedom you better cry for your freedom now

[GreenPrimitivist]

You can't argue for something totally wrong. And that is violent fundamentalism.

[nagamora]

after the arabs , the ottomans , I think the Indonisians r the ones who will be grantd the honor of leading the islamic ummah as Khalifat Omara ra said : "Allah swt rises nations and detroys nations by this book (the holly Quran)" I think defenetly those who hold the Holly Quran and apply it will rule the world ,as an arab I would like the islamic khalifa to be an indonisian brother .May Allah swt bless Indonisia

[alaadamy2]

RADICAL DEMOCRACY= Sames sex marriages, Alchohol-related traffic fatalites{MADD},Casinos& Gambling industry[Las Vegas], interest-Usury related stress from debt , Heart attacks from Swine-high blood pressure, public nudity ,Strip clubs, missing children- exploitation& molestation {Amber Alerts}Drug trafficing, murder rate, mega prisons populations{see USA },drive by murders, USA sex trafficing[see CNN special] Out of Wedlock births,Pornography, Paternity lawsuits{You Are Not The Father'}LOL!

[karelingab]

Mirza Satriawan, go to hell with your piggy HTI yang pengentot!

[muhasyim]

@karelingab LOE SENDIRI TUKANG NGENTOT KAN??...GO TOHELL TO YOU AGAMA KARELINGAB....GAK USAH GANGGU AGAMA ORANG....DASAR MUNAFIK

[karelingab]

@muhasyim Kalau kau bilang go to hell padaku, Saya pergi ke Indonesia karena hanya negara indonesia adalah neraka sejati di dunia! Let's see who among us are munafik! Do you see a porn from my country like the peterporn and pks porn watching scandal from indonesia?

[pionisgood]

in this world there is only 2 kind of human....good people and bad people? i believe in ALLAH SWT but idon't believe in Jesus so what's the problem ??

[karelingab]

In reality, Indonesians are sexually hypocrite pornographic race. They want porn to become illegal but polygamy is legal In fact, polygamy is a muslim-style pornoaksi or porn action. You muslims, umat kamu tak bisa membuat pornoaksi? That's wh we never respect Indonesians who have sexual morality and modesty at all, particularly muslims.

[muslimgiga]

@karelingab You are so ignorant. Its ok to have sex with 100000 women? BUT Its PORN to take into responsibility and be Committed to 2 women at one time?

Your A HYPOCRITE and so is your Generation boiy

[karelingab]

@muslimgiga Polygamy is a sex with 100000 women too! You are more hypocrite than us! that's why we never respecty muslims if they have sexual morality! We are not focusing to women. We peeping nude muslim indonesian boys only, not women, you, idiot!

[muhasyim]

@karelingab CRISTIAN THE WORST..AND THE SOURCE OFF PHORNO GRAFI..FUCK EVERY BODY LIKE ANIMAL...MUSLIM RESPECT WOMAN SO THE GETING MARIEED...NOT LIVE TOGETHER OR KUMPUL KEBO LIKE KRISTIAN....WE DONT NEED TO BE RESPECT..AND YOU BETTER STAY AWAY OR YOU FACE TROBEL IN YOU LIVE AND WAHT YOU BELIVE

[karelingab]

@muhasyim You muslims are the worst! The PKS member watch porn! Osama Bin Laden have porn collections! Malaysia is the destination for prostitues. You are truly the most hypocrite of all!

[muhasyim]

@karelingab reaaly..hahaha...you hypocrite agama...going down to the toilet like american.....well kristian and amerikan jew always try to make bad about muslim and indonesia..i dont blame that becouse you and other kristian are anemy....:)..and enemy alway enemy...and you hypocrite like you homo raligion

[karelingab]

@muhasyim Kalau aku orang munafik, aku umat islam sama anda dan warga kamu! Bagaimana ariel peterporn? Kami slelau lihat porno indonesia dan kamu beraninya bilang kami munafik!

[karelingab]

@muhasyim Aku tak ada agama. Please, don't call me hypocrite because i have no religion! Only those who have religion are hypocrite! Aku tidak orang munafik karena aku tidak orang indonesia! If you condemn america, why you speak english? English is a western language! you are already westernize becuase you can speak english, hypocrite!

[karelin11]

Let's celebrate to quake devastation of mentawai and volcanic eruption in indonesia. the calamities happens in indonesia now are our victories against indonesia. May the hell to all the victims of quake in indonesia!

[basketballs77]

Mr Mirza Satriawan.. please tell the truth... stop talking bullshit and coved your group!

[basketballs77]

idiot people!! they just bored nothing to do in life...

[karelingab]

Pergi9 ke neraka, Mirza Satriawan, raja babi Indonesia!

[megatown]

let us see

[Tsiehtalol]

Ugh. Radicals. Religions are only good without them.

[MeyMaristhela]

Hey!! Indonesia's not Islam country.. it's just islam populated more than cristian :)

[Richardcuz420]

Rice God?  And you still call yourself a Muslim? That's not tolerance its insanity!

[myfidz]

Islam....

[akuadalahrajamu]

ISLAM is not bad..but radical ISLAM is bad..remember that please

[mowgly3000]

@akuadalahrajamu There is no such thing as "radical" Islam, we made that word up in the West so not to offend all muslims. There is only "Islam"

[semprulia]

@mowgly3000 Yeah...probably it is not the "believe" or "religion" that is "radical" BUT the people that embraces the ideas in this religion HAVE PUT OUT the RADICAL IDEAS which makes it shows such skin.

Radicalism has the root in any principles and religions. They just need people bold enough to bring it forward and leave the rest of the concepts in those religions unimportant and even neglected when conflicted with radical ideas. It is the ROOT OF EVIL....that just cloaking in the NAME of GOD.

[mowgly3000]

@semprulia So which Koran & Hadith so called "moderate" Islam produces?

[creacklago]

what kind of trainning was tht.. lets see them fight in MMA..lol

[CrusaderOfFreeSpeech]

The biggest mistake, on any Islamic country (or country with a majority of Muslims) is to introduce Democracy there. Will never work, such countries will Islamize in a shot/medium term.

What's up to happen to Indonesia is the same that will happen to Iraq or Afghanistan, and what would be happing now on Turkey if Europe doesn't care.

Democracy, is the government model which has the highest requirements of them all. Introduce Democracy on Islam is like install Windows Vista on a 386 PC...

[islamwomanfighter]

we dont need western ass..

[CrusaderOfFreeSpeech]

And that's why "western ass" doesn't work there that good, isn't it?

Indonesia is a mistake as whole, the Dutch made a senseless country merging islands without even look to their cultural differences.

I seriously doubt Indonesia will exist as we know it until the end of the current century.

[kewlkewl12]

we should kill all these FPI just like we killed communists in 1965, what a bunch of shitty scumbags!!

[nittenichiryu]

and u should get arrested by saying something like that in a law abiding country such as Indonesia.

[NYSalsaholic]

islam belongs in the mosques and not the government.

THere should always be separation between religion and government. Sharii law is barbaric discriminatory and inhumane.

[nittenichiryu]

God created religion so people can live righteously..

if there is a religion that separates their teachings with the government..that is because their teaching can not (by logic) accepted in the term of governing a country.

[islamwomanfighter]

1 wrong and 1 right.. islam belong to mosque,not government.

the government sold islam out to west.

fuck indon government as i shit on america

[CrusaderOfFreeSpeech]

Was good if it was so... but Islam is by itself a form of government, not a religion.

[BanarsiPaan120]

western people always trying 2 create fitna and divission amongst people.. that`s what they`r famous 4 if u look back @ history.. They`d liked 2 film rotten apple`s or people that would look stupid instead of good practising followers of a faith.

my message 2 the west, Fuck urself

[islamwomanfighter]

you totally right..western are scumbag n trying to create war in islamic country.

[CrusaderOfFreeSpeech]

If you know the history of Islam, you know nobody needs to create war in Islamic countries... they go to war easily on their own.

[arsenic45]

As much as I disagree with Mirza's ideology, I wish that he could speak better English and able to explain better what he's trying to say, because watching him in this video is almost saddening. I almost said, "Please guys, be nice to him. He doesn't know what he's talking about AT ALL!"

[edyliang]

Seems to me that Mr.Mirza is the one of terrorist of indonesia! you can see from his hateful face!

[bataviaguy]

This is a fabricated story. 100 % not true at all.

[islamwomanfighter]

dude,dont you know that the western media trying to fool people about what ISLAM IS ALL ABOUT, ISLAM IS BEHIND EVERY BOMBING N TERRORISM, INFACT THAT THOSE FUCKING STUFF WAS DONE BY THE WEST

[CrusaderOfFreeSpeech]

Terrorism? Terrorism isn't the problem, is just a natural result. Sharia does so much damage on social level, that terrorism, if it wasn't for spectacle and it "kills westerns", it would be totally sidelined.

But "our media" still looks for human life by "different values". One western killed on a bombing is news, 2000 non-westerns media will not even care. Like in Bali, AU, US and EU media told about Western victims, interview their families but hadn't give a rat about ID victims, did it?

[bataviaguy]

The main problem is, the majority of Indonesian people are angry,mad and upset with very corrupt government in Indonesia. And only Islam organizations that have initiative together with Indonesian people to show their anger by demonstrations.

One more point, Yenny wahid is a daughter Abdurrahman Wahid is a LIAR. She and her father are one of antimuslim people in Indonesia and disguised themselves as Muslim but truly they are not. Believe me .

[maxitopas]

as long there is a islamist fanatic, Indonesia will never be a peaceful religion. Those radical bastard should be banned and dissolved. End of discussion, no quarter...indonesia islamist only like a splinter cell or a cancer cell that could spread dangerously in the short time.

[dinosor369]

yes of coz.. but STILL THERE ARE JEWS/CHRISTIAN EXTREMISTS AND TERRORISTS TOO AND ITS ALSO HAPPENING TODAY RIGHT NOW!! so DO NOT OPT THESE FACTS OUT TOO...

[edtlg]

this so called bad apples...i am not trying to be prejudice but..hey Republic Of Indonesia dont need this bullcrap.let indonesia be indonesia,Unity in diversity

[Stealthanugrah]

They keep burning down Churches! They are so violent.

[dinosor369]

yeah juz like US democracy policy... first they hate the fascist(German) n all out campaign against them.. then next is the communists... then Islam(extremist?) .. so if wat u say is true then Jews/Christians are also extremist as they are rulers of countries involve..

[vsovereign]

True, & there are other fanatics in other religions too. As a rule of thumb I despise fanaticsm. Anything taken to the extreme is never good.

[vsovereign]

1. okay

2. sure

3. WTF??? Close the bad ones, not all!

4. I fail to see the relevance(spelling)...?

5. Because they're Russia's enemies?

6. Because they don't like USA

[vsovereign]

Well as an Indonesian, I detest the desertification of Indonesian Islam. The fanatics out of the desert are undermining the tolerant local Islam in order to impose their own bigoted view of Islam. I hope the govt & the TNI would do something soon!

[santi334]

hahaha that kid that was eating the rice had a shirt that said KKK.

[just relieving some tension]

[Tareq88]

lol

[TheJustinReport]

Con: What are these HIDDEN FACTS and Truths that the Western Media distorts? How did Aljazeera mislead anyone with this video? Could it be that you are just finding out that you do not agree with the Hizbut Tahrir Party after all?

[edenic]

The control of sexual expression is fundamental to Islamic life.Its one way women control ( questionable ) their lives even if they are exiled from mainstream life, but HTHriha are whistling up a tree for a united Islamic republic. Indonesia is deeply mystical.

[arbibiashoy]

The control of sexual expression is what differentiates man from animal.

[TheJustinReport]

Wahabis call themselves Salafis.

[binsaif]

"America. The ENEMY of HUMANITY" - Che Guevara

[wildanramadhani]

I'm an Indonesian Muslim and i see no threat of terrorists in my country. All they (hizbut tahrir) want to do is forbidding all pornography activities, drug or alcohol activities, and every things thats against the Islamic laws. Islam is not against other religion and not allowed to disturbing neither force others religion or faith. The church that being attacked is a very very stupid action did by a people that doesn't understand the meaning of peace full.

[TheJustinReport]

I don't agree with pornography, drugs, or alcohol, but why do you agree that taking the law in your own hands is justified? Why not just organize into a political lobbyist group without the illegal violence?

[arbibiashoy]

Political lobbying requires money and funding which poor people do not have. Lobbying is ILLEGAL in most countries except for the USA which is why they are unable to have gun control laws and that is why they invaded Iraq in order to satisfy the demands of the rich lobby groups such as the gun lobby, oil lobby and pro-Israel lobby.

[vsovereign]

I disagree!!! Indonesia is first & foremost NOT an Islamic country. Our basic is Pancasila. The people doing all "un-Islamic" things you say, broke few, if any laws in our country. Which, BTW is NOT an islamic country.

[nbjaved]

what abt USA trying to invade the world

what abt the Oil resources that USA wants to grab hold to

what abt USA and UK not minding their own businesses and let the muslim world alone?

what if the west is doing a cold crusade war against Islam?

and by the way the 9/11 episode has been proven wrong it was just a set up to attack the Muslims. Watch Farenheit 911 or a couple of other documentaries related to it. Made by Americans themselves

[tariqu7861]

F THIS

[mimeNo9]

I have to say, this was a poorly produced episode. Compared to the thought-provoking analysis contained in an earlier episode regarding the rise of political Islam in Malaysia, this episode on Indonesia falls far short.

The interviewer's questions were slanted, shallow and superficial. The interviewees weren't articulate and didn't say anything of much depth. There's very little substance in this episode.

[RAGSTAluvsDA90z]

in london the Quran actually went to court if they should band it or not but the Quran won the case!!

[AlLyddawi]

i always thought that aljazeera was very middle in its reporting, but the terms and unfounded biases this guy throws has sadly had a change on my opinion

[nbjaved]

There is no rice godess in ISLAM...? Islam teaches oneness of god (Allah). That farmer is doing Shirk.

[AlLyddawi]

wow, i cant believe i actually saw that. how strange