@The4LA2Baker0 "You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion." - L Ron Hubbard. he said that in 1948. five years later, in 1953, he founded the curch of scientology. you do the math...
@The4LA2Baker0 there is evidence that he had psychiatric counsilling after the war but i think he was a clever man who knew exactly what he was doing. i don't think you can be "bat shit crazy" and manipulate people as he did. just like a lot of cult leaders, though, he was definitely border-line...
I recon a bit of Messiah complex. Starts off sane and when he becomes the word of god and starts believing it, gets caught up in his own fantasy and turns crazy - like heaven's gate guy, who legitimately started to believe his crap.
its an orientation exercise. never mind how it sounds, if it is done on you you end up feeling more aware. i know it sounds weird but it is very true. it is nothing to do with hypnosis
I've been in a hypnosis group session before. It was exactly like this. Others felt the way you did, more aware, afterwards. I broke out into tears after the session. It was horrid, knowing I lost my own will to someone else...
Graar. Your intuition is correct. Repetition is one of the set of techniques that are used to create the suggestive state. Viewing the Derren Brown videos on speed hypnotism will make this point. When people are audited, they are put into a suggestive state. Interestingly, the auditors do not know they are hypnotising their subjects, they only know they are creating some state of mind in the auditee.
Got a Scientology Dictionary and looked this up. Its called Locational Spotting. They initially ask you to mostly locate objects, and very infrequently yourself or the auditor. As they go through more sessions, the frequency of 'locating's of themself and the auditor increase. This gradual process makes them end up focusing more on the auditor unconciously according to the dictionary. tl;dr its brainwashing.
To locating an object just means to focus on it or draw your attention to it.
How come Scientologists radically declare they are ANTI PSYCHOLOGY when they are clearly practicing such 'controlling' and 'influencing' techniques of the mind ??
That is because by convincing the lower members that psychology is evil, it is alienating them from their main source of salvation, as psychologists are really the only ones who can help them cure the brainwashing.
tl;dr, they are brainwashed to hate people who can cure brainwashing.
Interestingly enough, the dictionary describes psychology as exactly what scientolgy is, and describes scientology in a way very familiar to psychology. What a way to confuse people...
auditing is fucking wierd, they stare at you for hours in a dark room and make you become really uncomfortable and it puts you in a strange hypnotic trance which breaks you down psychologically
It's a tool to make people keep affirming in chorus. It's not so much about being servile, but rather making them feel unnatural when they don't mindlessly affirm and obey (which in effect IS servility, but it's a fine line). Much like Christians forcing people to say "amen" in chorus after a prayer, which (if I remember rightly) means "I believe" or something.
If a Christian "forces" someone to say amen, it's not really a true Christian or a heartfelt prayer. And the word "amen" means "So be it" it is appropriately put at the end of prayers as a statement of faith. As in "Lord heal my sickness, so be it (amen)"
I guess it depends on the individual. I know at my church lots of people sometimes even my pastor just says the prayer and then no one ends it with Amen. I mean everyone says it sometimes, but it's not really a requirement or anything. But I guess at churches where they make you feel guilty for not saying amen that would be a true analogy.
It's a "discipline" exercise. Note that all the responses are the same. They're playing "Simon Says", practicing being servile. Some kinda NPR/hypnosis crap.
the fuck...
Helden6621 6 months ago
I still wonder if L Ron was really Bat Shit Crazy, or he figured out how to con stupid people out of their money, or both.
The4LA2Baker0 1 year ago
@The4LA2Baker0 "You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion." - L Ron Hubbard. he said that in 1948. five years later, in 1953, he founded the curch of scientology. you do the math...
TheWordOfBod 1 year ago
TheWordOfBod,
OK so he was a con artist, was he insane?
The4LA2Baker0 1 year ago
@The4LA2Baker0 there is evidence that he had psychiatric counsilling after the war but i think he was a clever man who knew exactly what he was doing. i don't think you can be "bat shit crazy" and manipulate people as he did. just like a lot of cult leaders, though, he was definitely border-line...
TheWordOfBod 1 year ago 2
@TheWordOfBod How do you explain Hitler?
Psychopaths are some of the best manipulators...
mud409 1 year ago
I recon a bit of Messiah complex. Starts off sane and when he becomes the word of god and starts believing it, gets caught up in his own fantasy and turns crazy - like heaven's gate guy, who legitimately started to believe his crap.
harryfmk 1 year ago
harryfmk,
LoL, i like that explanation, it seems to fit quite well.
The4LA2Baker0 1 year ago
Cheers!
harryfmk 1 year ago
Scientology?
Nah. Let's locate something else.
Naturyl 3 years ago 3
its an orientation exercise. never mind how it sounds, if it is done on you you end up feeling more aware. i know it sounds weird but it is very true. it is nothing to do with hypnosis
BIGJ88888888 3 years ago
I've been in a hypnosis group session before. It was exactly like this. Others felt the way you did, more aware, afterwards. I broke out into tears after the session. It was horrid, knowing I lost my own will to someone else...
TTINUHPLOTR 3 years ago 3
what a load of bullpoop! what kind of idiots are these? i would be laughing my butt off after the first, oh, 15 times he said this.
greenroomsh 3 years ago
this is how hypnosis works
246trinitrotoluene 3 years ago 2
CULT LEADER... this reminds me of the Jim Jones tapes
zaqmlp1234 3 years ago
wow i'd love to do this. but i don't like locating people. i'd rather locate something else.
KungFu17 3 years ago 8
"Let's locate the guns"
"Ok"
"well did you"
"Yea"
"Now let's shoot ourselves in the head"
"ok"
"well, did you?"
(crickets)
stephenshrugged 4 years ago 5
aaarritte lets locate teh audior
aaarritte lets locate teh audior
aaarritte lets locate teh audior
aaarritte lets locate teh audior
aaarritte lets locate teh audior
aaarritte lets locate teh audior
aaarritte lets locate teh audior
That'll be $10,000.
Starcraftmazter 4 years ago 5
-Alright, what is your profession?
-HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
-Good, what is your profession?
-HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
-Well fine, what is your profession?
-HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
Threadinator 4 years ago 2
wow...i have located many things leave me the hell alone xD
lu1zsypher 4 years ago
this sounds alot like brain washing
Bardiel2c 4 years ago 3
yea definite suggestion is being used.
babystinky 4 years ago
What's the crowd saying?
illegalloving 4 years ago 2
"Okay"
xairbearsgirlx 4 years ago
Graar. Your intuition is correct. Repetition is one of the set of techniques that are used to create the suggestive state. Viewing the Derren Brown videos on speed hypnotism will make this point. When people are audited, they are put into a suggestive state. Interestingly, the auditors do not know they are hypnotising their subjects, they only know they are creating some state of mind in the auditee.
sesquipidalian 4 years ago 3
I seem to remember a hypnotherapist using similar tactics on me when I was a kid.
graaar 4 years ago
And people pay to do this...
Game9102 4 years ago
HYPNOSIS!!!!!!
SHUT 'EM DOWN!!!!
Anon30Tint 4 years ago 2
I would just "LOCATE" the Exit and walk out.
babystinky 4 years ago 7
lol
arshsingh1984 4 years ago
Got a Scientology Dictionary and looked this up. Its called Locational Spotting. They initially ask you to mostly locate objects, and very infrequently yourself or the auditor. As they go through more sessions, the frequency of 'locating's of themself and the auditor increase. This gradual process makes them end up focusing more on the auditor unconciously according to the dictionary. tl;dr its brainwashing.
To locating an object just means to focus on it or draw your attention to it.
AngelOfDesu 4 years ago 4
How come Scientologists radically declare they are ANTI PSYCHOLOGY when they are clearly practicing such 'controlling' and 'influencing' techniques of the mind ??
monsterjazzlicks 3 years ago
That is because by convincing the lower members that psychology is evil, it is alienating them from their main source of salvation, as psychologists are really the only ones who can help them cure the brainwashing.
tl;dr, they are brainwashed to hate people who can cure brainwashing.
Interestingly enough, the dictionary describes psychology as exactly what scientolgy is, and describes scientology in a way very familiar to psychology. What a way to confuse people...
AngelOfDesu 3 years ago 3
ok ya know what the fuck is the point of it?Scientology is fucked up.
Emmieslesbianlover 4 years ago 3
It causes people to dissociate. Dissociated people are like sheep: docile and easy to order around.
blackpoohbear 4 years ago 8
And what do they SAY is the point of this???
hollymaria 4 years ago
What the hell? Very weird...
hollymaria 4 years ago
and why exactly do people think this a crazy man? this stuff just gets more and more pathetic, no wonder Tom Cruise is insane
fitch2000 4 years ago
Alright, let's locate your credit card!
Alright, let's locate your bank account!
Alright, let's sign that on over..
Excellent.
pokerslut530 4 years ago 17
alright let's locate somebody else
pedicabdr1ver 4 years ago 2
auditing is fucking wierd, they stare at you for hours in a dark room and make you become really uncomfortable and it puts you in a strange hypnotic trance which breaks you down psychologically
Sclorch 4 years ago 9
Alright, let's locate your money for this audit!
jamiekin 4 years ago 2
mm,aalright lets locate the broken Record player
dobby240 4 years ago 2
retard
coopsta133 4 years ago
He stole this technique from Tony Robbins
digitalspecx 4 years ago
NLP techniques
xenu4prez 4 years ago
mmallright, lets locate the cult.
peestandingup 4 years ago 12
It's a tool to make people keep affirming in chorus. It's not so much about being servile, but rather making them feel unnatural when they don't mindlessly affirm and obey (which in effect IS servility, but it's a fine line). Much like Christians forcing people to say "amen" in chorus after a prayer, which (if I remember rightly) means "I believe" or something.
NoobixCube 4 years ago 7
If a Christian "forces" someone to say amen, it's not really a true Christian or a heartfelt prayer. And the word "amen" means "So be it" it is appropriately put at the end of prayers as a statement of faith. As in "Lord heal my sickness, so be it (amen)"
JAH bless
TheTrueHappy 4 years ago
Okay, "forcing" was poor choice of words, but if you ever don't say 'amen' when everyone else does, you feel very out of place, don't you?
NoobixCube 4 years ago 5
I guess it depends on the individual. I know at my church lots of people sometimes even my pastor just says the prayer and then no one ends it with Amen. I mean everyone says it sometimes, but it's not really a requirement or anything. But I guess at churches where they make you feel guilty for not saying amen that would be a true analogy.
JAH bless
TheTrueHappy 4 years ago
Yes Noobix, and there is an experiment filmed on here by Phillip Zimbardo illustrating this exact common trait.
monsterjazzlicks 3 years ago
So say we All.
Kevrohall 4 years ago
It's a "discipline" exercise. Note that all the responses are the same. They're playing "Simon Says", practicing being servile. Some kinda NPR/hypnosis crap.
JunkerJames 4 years ago
WTF IS THIS SHIT?
TradeMAAK 4 years ago 3
I wish he'd locate my boot... IN HIS ASS
SIDEWAYS
zugamifk 4 years ago 11
"Now jump out of the window."
"Yes, sir"
*JUMPS*
peterixxx 4 years ago 3
Fine, lets locate something else.
SiNN4R 4 years ago 2
OMG this is sick
Let's locate the brainwashing
...
MrXyZeR 4 years ago 7
Good. Now let's locate the brainwashing
yohnstoppable 4 years ago 8
its sounds like theyre saying 'your penis'
abhorsen666 4 years ago 2
WTFHAFHSHAFHHAS STOP FUCKING LOCATING.
Sounds like a fucking broken record.
crazedwarrior 4 years ago
brainwashing bastard is giving me a headache >.>
shishikyuu 4 years ago
WTF?!
ARSYN7 4 years ago
This is really fucked. I wish they would locate my fury of haymakers.
Bloodmuffin76 4 years ago
SHUT THE FUCK UP LRH
tnewcomb 4 years ago 5
"Alright, now locate my prick".
"Sorry. Can't. No tweesers." :(
AgentOfProgress 4 years ago
Lets locate something else?!? Dude.....
Trmpah 4 years ago