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  • i just used this for the first time and checkmated him in 12 moves. lol

  • Some pachuco today opened with a Single Queen's Pawn Game (1. d4) so I used the Indian Defense (1...Nf6) and then 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 c5 4. Nc3 Bd6 5. Bg5 O-O 6. dxc5 Bxc5 7. Ne4 Bb4+ 8. Nfd2 Bxd2+ 9. Qxd2 Nxe4 10. Bxd8 Nxd2 11. Kxd2 Rxd8 12. e4 d5 13. cxd5 exd5 14. Kc2 dxe4 15. Bc4 Be6 16. Be2 f5 17. f3 Nc6 18. g4 Nd4+ 19. Kd2 exf3 20. Bd3 fxg4 21. Rhe1 Rd6 22. Rac1 Bf5 23. Bxf5 Nxf5+ 24. Kc2 Rc8+ 25. Kb1 Rxc1+ 26. Rxc1 Rc6 27. Re1 h5 28. Re8+ Kh7 29. Ra8 f2 30. Rxa7 f1=Q# and I checkmated him ay.

  • cool

  • I'm not so good at chess. :(

    

  • I'm not so good at chess. :(

  • I have a question for anyone out there. Im a fairly new player (6 months) and looking at developing my play but obviously am not nearly knowledgable or skillful enough to work out moves further down the line...so...why doesnt white just take the free pawn at the very start...there must be a reason...can someone give me the way to exploit that white move(presumbaly mistake?) Thanks.

  • @simplyatpeace You're losing the center position by coming off the d file

  • @simplyatpeace it's not really a free pawn, black just plays e5 and gets good central control /equality which is the most important area of the board at the start, and by doing so he also attacks white's pawn w/his bishop (i.e. with tempo) and white's pawn isn't worth defending as it'd leave white's king side extremely vulnerable. By playing d5 instead white is gaining a spatial advantage (restricting black's knight for example).

    Careless materialism is one of the seven deadly sins of chess xD

  • @SovereignFOTL

    Its great when white tries to hold onto the pawn. They always end up in a world of hurt. I play e6 instead though.

  • @simplyatpeace

    It's because if white takes the pawn he is weakening his control of the central squares. After taking the black pawn, black will win it back anyway, usually with Qa5+ and then capturing the pawn, but black doesn't have to do this right away cause the pawn is so week,

  • @simplyatpeace

    After Dxc5, I would play E6.

  • @simplyatpeace

    Then If white tries to hang onto the pawn with B4, I would play A5 with black, whites position is dodgy now.

  • nice vid, especially on move orders, many players think the benoni to be a newer type opening but it has its roots of concievment around 1794 when it was dabbled with by the german von Reinganum, early Ben-Oni ( hyphen later dropped) lines went 1.d4 c4 2.d5 e4 3.c4 f5 4.Nc3 d6 which obviously looks infantile, but thats how she came about, it wasnt taken seriously, fine even said"it left black witha hopelessly cramped game". and was called the "bologne", thus the modern benoni was found soild.

  • Great video again, I'm looking at playing the Modern Benoni and this helps a lot. But the Taimanov is like the Yugoslav to the Dragon Sicilian, its really powerful.

    But I have to disagree with with you on something, Playing 1. Nf6 2.c4 2.e6 doesnt avoid the Taimanov, as after 3.Nc3 c5 white can still play d5 without difficulties, after exd5 cxd5 white can still play e4 and f4. Thoughts?

  • thank u keep making more videos!

  • this is definitely NOT a recommendable opening if you are learning chess. the benoni is a good system for players like gms, who can use the dynamics of the opening, much like the boleslavski variation in the sicilian. but if you dont know what you are doing and fail to generate counterplay, you will end up with a miserable position, curling up very uncomfortably to defend d6, and eventually losing it.

    keep in mind that white has very easy maneuvers to pressurize d6, so you gotta get counterplay

  • i can hear your kids shouting in the background...

  • What happens when white en passant

  • This makes no sense at all to me...

  • When the Bishops went to B5, it checked the king. A checked king can't castle anymore.....wtf

  • @philster00700 naw man if u move ur king u cant castle anymore but if u block a check with another piece u still have the ability to castle as long as u dont move ur king

  • @philster00700 the check was blocked by the knight

  • the taimanov is definitely a tough one to handle as black. i think the current treatment as black is to play nfd7 in response to the early bb5+ to prevent e5

  • 1:25 e6 and d6 are bad move because it block both of blacks Bishop

  • Benoni means "my sorrow" in Hebrew / "my strength" depending on how its spelled in Hebrew.

  • black normally plays c5 straight away.

  • it make no sence to me

  • Jrobi is the best. 

  • ♔♕♖♗♘♙

  • @cheesypasta How you do that?

  • I would give him a huge glass of water just stop doing this sound!

  • One of your lines in the Taimanov is innaccurate. After 1.d4,Nf6 2.c4,c5 3.d5,e6 4.Nc3,exd5 5.cxd5,d6 6.e4,g6 7.f4,Bg7 8.Bb5+,Nbd7 you claim it is troublesome for Black. However the best move here is 8... Nfd7 where the Black bishop protects the e5 square and if now 9.Nf3 then 9...a6 10.Bd3, b5 and it is equal.

  • thanks for upload

  • What if white did 2.d5 instead of 2. c4?.

  • its preety cool

  • hey frenz in fighting there are different attacking strategies and techniques like karate, kung fu ,judo boxing etc etc.... similar to the openings in chess ...instead of finding out the best style just master yourself and make yourself strong with the style you know and are comfortable... i really appreciate your efforts jobrichess

  • how u play with urself

  • @juNk8assuLproduction by unzipping ur pants XD

  • @jackeyjack xd

    

  • you shouldn't ever play Bg2 Bg7 Bb7 B72 unless you should prunounce it :(!

  • why so many views for technical openings that noone will ever remember all of them might as well just learn a good middle game and screw the openings and just keep to general classical theory of central control and development !!!! then learn to play from puzzles and playing strongwr opponents #!"!

  • @dobsondale I think openings are important as they've been studied quite a long time and usually gives good if not best moves at the beginning to play. Without knowing at least the basics, you might fall into traps easily or lose strategically early on.

  • Can you do a video on the Benko Gambit please?

  • At 0:55 why didnt white just capture blacks pawn at c5? Its a free piece! He would be up in material. Shouldnt he just move there instead?

  • @tatomuck18 Because after captured, Qa5+ regains the pawn and helps black develop the queen to a square that isn't vulnerable. Also white could play e6 and attack the pawn after captured and it would weaken white's pawn structure to defend the c5 pawn.... In short, it's kind of like playing the queen's gambit as black.

  • very nice analysis

  • At 4:42, what would black do if white moved its pawn to f5? that would smash up black's protective castle right?

  • I have one question, when do i know when to play e6, because if they decline the Benoni then do i do it, but do i play e6 after wards or do i play it after the kf6? The reason why i'm asking is because i notice that when i play e6, i feel like i've lost most of the power of the benoni defense, so i'm asking when do i play e6

  • Benoni system is just fine. Although the Benko gambit is well known and often played, I do believe white will stand better if played well.

  • I'm not trying to undermine the video by any means but what if black captures en passent at 6:24? Would that aid the position and pawn structure of black and therefore should be ignored, or was it forgotten at the moment of this nearly three year old video?

  • Excellent tutorial videos. I will be looking for more of them. I am a strong chess player but I have to say that this videos are well designed and exposed by jrobichess. Keep going my friend.

  • at 0:54 why didnt white just take blacks pawn at C5? Its free. Theres no peices guarding it and white would be ahead in the game by a peice. Wouldnt that be a better move?

  • @tatomuck18 It wants to maintain presence in the center bye taking that pawn it looses a center pawn

  • @tatomuck18 he didn't because if he did he would lose the control of the central square (d4, d5, e4, e5) which is a key point in chess by what I know..

  • Thanks for the lesson, I appreciate it.

  • I never get to play against people who open with the queen pawn

  • in the last variation what happens if white moves ahead with en passant

  • 1) Do you people all know the board in you your heads? Like in movies when one says the other"mate in 4 moves". I somewhat like to play chess in my cell phone, but I don't see all the moves even when looking straight at them. Hell, im playing on "monkey" difficulty level.

    2)Any suggestions how to learn to see more on table, because all the time I miss something.

  • why wouldn't whites second move be c1 to g5?

  • why wouldn't whites second move be c1 to g5?

  • Thanks for lots of interesting vids. But, I have one question regarding this Benoni defence; which "Why whites don't take the black pawn in C5?" Thanks beforehand for the answer.

  • Why wouldn't white capture the hanging pawn on c5?

  • Getting back into chess....just have a quick question...why wouldn't white capture the pawn on c5 instead of white "developing to d5"? It looks as though white gets a hanging pawn the 4th move in.....

  • As sad as it is to admit that chess is interesting, that was a really useful video, thanks, appreciate that fella.

  • The reason they are "standardized moves" is because they are the best moves. If you don't know the standardized moves and play moves that you "reasoned out" you will lose. Winning against a "master" without losing a single piece...is a complete lie. Maybe you didn't lose that game, but you will lose because you pick moves you think are good rather than moves that time and computers have proven to be the best. Please do not disregard these "standardized moves" and slander those who know them.

  • @Sheendude

    can u recommend a good if not the best online chess game u know?

  • try to do a search for Tal-Smyslov. There you will see beautiful fireworks!

  • @biathcw that's not a very funny joke actually

  • a master knows the best answers to every possible move in about the first 5 moves so playing over the board at the beginning doesnt help at all

  • Well, it's possible to consider most possibilities, but all possible combinations? Unlikely.

  • i don't get it. if the benoni defense is for black, how come that:

    White Wins 39.6%

    Black Wins 28.6%

    Draw 31.8%

  • When looking at a black defence, you add the draw and win percentages together to get an idea of the general strength of an opening system.

  • @jrobichess uh, yea same with the white percentage, to get an idea of the white strategy you add white wins and draws just the same as you would add the black wins and draws to understand the black opening system as you said black strategy that favors white?

  • @Laevi1337 Actually no.White starts with a small advantage and therefore is more likely to win.You add the draw percentage only to black.

  • If you tally up the black winning % and the drawing % you see that odds are you won't lose a point utilizing this opening. You also notice that if you need a draw odds are you will get one with this opening.

  • @SpongeInPyjama

    there are 3 types of lies:

    Lies, Damn Lies and statistics

  • true.

  • @SpongeInPyjama In normal openings white has about 56% (black 44%), so benoni is an quite good opening with 46% for black. You shouldn't think too much about the percents, except for they are not too extreme. Players can become good positions and nevertheless lose.

  • I really like you're video's. I haven't really been much active these couple of years and in result my elo-rating dropped to 1625. Still I really like this format and it really helped me to start improving my chess game again and hopefully become as strong as I used to be and maybe even stronger :)

  • why doesent white just capture the e pawn right away

  • @quarticom if black captures, Qa5+ forks the king and pawn and white regains in a far better possision.

  • @tuzet i was talking about black's e pawn

  • How can white castle if 2 turns before it was in check by the bishop.

  • Again I wish you would go further into the games and give more attack strategies

  • Hey man...this Defense is great...I play someone with the Benoni and completely took him down Also thanks for teaching me if someone declines the benoni because of that i knew what to do....Thanks so much!

  • I have a question which one would people allow to take first....in other words in the Benoni defense what out of whites pieces wouldn't he want black to take first?

  • d4, Nf6

    c4, e6

    Nc3, c5

    why would you then play Nf3, why not just transpose with d5? it doesn't avoid it at all..

  • i like doing the benko gambit

  • The black weakness on d6 should be highlighted; this is a major weakness in the Benoni; it's where the name originates from and is one of the main reasons for not playing the defence. Good video, thanks.

  • I agree... I see the same thing too as well.

  • because those are childs play games

  • @jinzodude take the pawn on c5 is child game? I remember a Karpov-Kasparov with that move... I think is playable, and not only between childs

  • @robotkarel i don't think i was talking about the move he made....somebody made a comment about another board game.....but i wouldn't know, that comment was more than a year ago

  • Why wouldn't whiet take the pawn on c5, why push it forward?

  • it would be a wasted move, there will be a hole in middle and pawn can be easily taken later. if need be you can check with queen and take it...

  • thankyou mr smart man

  • dont wanna double up pawns.. maintain structure

  • no discussion on the old benoni :(

  • Leningrad Dutch FTW

  • In the variation at 3:56 with Bb5+ you should play Nfd7 instead of Nbd7.

    The kings knight goes to b6 later and the queens knight goes to f6.

  • Right, white can even play e5 against Nbd7 as far as i know...

  • i do not find a reason to play the benoni defence since king's indian defence is giving good attacking chances to black...

  • Openings are like food, people have their special preferences.

  • @jrobichess Dear, you give me a reason to connect to youtube daily.

  • @jrobichess also, the Benoni defence generates inmediate counterplay by striking white's center. The King's Indian defence is a little more conservative, and does not generates any trouble to white until the e5 or d5 rupture. Great vid!

  • in benoni defence u can prevent disaster like in king's indian if u dont know how to play with black again the bayonnet attack

  • @teogialigous also consider most players are very good at playing against the KID and might be a little uncomfortable with the Bononi

  • ive played a few games with a player who seems to have a near indestructable defence, no matter how i attack it he always seems to coem off best, can you help me out?

  • A win isn't always for the player who attacks first. Try waiting moves, and see what weaknesses your opponent opens up. Stay flexible, and pounce only when a good opportunity comes.

  • Great comment David!

  • Not at all. Knights really shine in endgames that are more closed than open and can be very useful if they have an outpost deep into the enemy position. Thanks for checking out the vid!

  • so its safe to say, in using the benoni defense...you'll have to use the old benoni, the temenaf variation (i hope i spelled it right) is very dangerous, especially if your goin up against someone strong like a Grandmaster

  • i know this is a noobest question but i don't know much about chess but in the video description, it says " an opening strategy often used by black..." why do u mention black? why cant it be used by white?

  • Because of the order in which the moves are made. White always go first, so it can't use it.

  • because its used to defence the white's openning

  • Black moves second. Also, black has the king on the other side,. Some of the implications of this are high level, but some are not. Black moves second, so black knows what white's first move was. This is a counter to queen pawn openings: a common beginner strategy of getting the queen out early. In that context, the strategy makes a lot more sense.

  • because white always move first and black move second

  • Thanks !! nice trick !

  • that last move with the pawn could have an en passant ensue, which might make it not so effective

  • that's right...in the end, this shows how any white queen's pawn opening variation could turn into a possible trap for blacks. still I'm searching for the correct solution.

  • The last move is indeed not considered to be very good but it has to be countered with Nc3 followed a bit later by e4. Then black will lack space and therefore have some problem to prepare an attack.

    If you play dxe6, then black will answer fxe6 followed immediately by d5 giving him a strong center and a good initiative.

  • But in the video, on the first benoni you played d6 after having played e6, and as far as I know it is a dubious move as it allows this time dxe6, and now that black had played d6, he will have lost one very precious tempo when playing the variation I previously mentioned.

    The easiest thing to do is to always play e6 and to take d5 before playing d6.

  • About the Taimanov, playing Nbd7 is very dangerous as some people even consider it to be a mistake as the immediate answer e5 (and not Nf3 which allows o-o) forces a very complicated variation for black.

    The best game I know about this Nbd7 variation is Sokolov-Topalov in Wijk aan Zee 1996, where even Topalov, the best benoni player in the world, lost.

    Bd7 is even worse (I tried it myself), so Nfd7 is forced for a non Benoni expert.

  • White: Sokolov, I

    Black: Topalov, V

    1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c5 4. d5 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. e4 g6 7. f4 Bg7 8.

    Bb5+ Nbd7 9. e5 dxe5 10. fxe5 Nh5 11. e6 Qh4+ 12. g3 Nxg3 13. hxg3 Qxh1 14.

    Be3 Bxc3+ 15. bxc3 a6 16. exd7+ Bxd7 17. Bxd7+ Kxd7 18. Qb3 b5 19. O-O-O

    Rhe8 20. Bxc5 Rac8 21. Bd4 Qg2 22. Qa3 Qxg3 23. Qxa6 Rxc3+ 24. Kb2 Rcc8 25.

    Qxb5+ Kd6 26. Ka1 Qa3 27. Bb2 Qc5 28. Qa6+ Kd7 29. Qa4+ 1-0 :)

  • Shouldn't the next black move be fxe6 or dxe6? I think it doesn't matter.

  • The Taimanov is not that dangerous OTB - as the Black player usually wants sharp play - after Bb6+ Nfd7

  • Thank you for showing this video. I actually have a scholastic tournament tomorrow and I was thinking about playing Benoni against d4.

  • When you showed us the whites checking the king with its biship (B-5), instead of bkack using the knight to block the check on D-2, I'd think E-1 to D-2 (Bishop) may be the better move? What you think?

  • I prefer Nfd7 blocking the check.

  • hey jrobi, do you think you could do a video on the nimzo-indian? it seems like another really interesting response to d4, thanks i'm a big fan!

  • the modern benoni really is one of the most beautiful chess openings in my opinion... been trying to imply it into some of my games and had some mixed results

  • my chessmaster pronounces it "fianchetto," not "fianketto." anyone know the correct pronunciation?

  • I have heard both actually so not positive. I have had people tell me it's one way, and then others tell me its the other way, etc.

  • it is pronounced fianchetto

  • I had a spanish speaker tell me it was "Finaketto". Either way it's all engrained in the brain now. =)

  • eh it doesn't matter how it's pronounced, your videos are still very helpful! oh yeah, I watched your FICS babaschess video; that place is very fun, hope to play you on there someday!

  • Its origin is Italian, and in that language "ch" is pronounced "k". Fianco means flank and fianchetto is the diminutive form, meaning small flank. The problem is that in America it's been used with the English-like pronounce so everyone's used to that. I wouldn't say it's wrong to say fianchetto but considering the Italian origin of the word I'd say Fianketto.

  • Thanks Fujita! That's along the lines of what the spanish speaking friend I had said.

  • why cant white just take the C pawn.

  • as entadus said before. The reason white doesnt is becuz once he does that, black will move queen to A5, checking white. Once white does something, black will simply annihilate the pawn with its queen.

  • The part where you say black avoids the Taimanov is completely wrong. The Nimzo/QID move order 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 is used to play 3...c5 if white plays 3.Nf3 only then is the Taimanov avoided, not after 3.Nc3 when white still just goes 4.d5 after 3....c5 and it's a direct transposition.

  • queen checks the white king, then takes the pawn back.

  • what is bishop fiancetto?

  • moving the bishop to g2, attacking the long diagonal while protected nicely by 3 pawns

  • If white captured of c5, black could play Queen to a5 check then grabbing the pawn back, it just an example.

  • why would black do b5

  • In the benko gambit black basically sacrifices a pawn for some long term advantages such as 2 very good bishops and open b file to work with.

  • 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c5 4.d5 exd5 5.cxd5 d6

    Can't see how black avoids the taimanov...

  • i dont like this stragey at all...

  • nice video !! haha ^^ please update new tactics on defense .. haha ^^

  • y do they not just take the pawn on c5

  • please do a video of the benko gambit! thanks

  • i don't like this opening...

  • how do you rfilm this with camera????????

  • Stacking the pawns isn't always bad, but generally it isn't a good idea. I think that in this particular situation, its not that bad, as they aren't on the d or e file.

    I found the most interesting parts to be the options that white has to take the black pawns but chooses not to in order to develop other pieces. Sometimes pawns that far into enemy territory are hard to defend, but it can also be good for cramping the opponent.

  • at 2:05 why wont the white pawn take the black pawn

  • Stacking the pawns is bad. It in effect is self-defeating, because you're taking out two of your pawns by taking one of the opponent's.

  • Hi guys, I'm new to chess and I want to aim to play chess on a professional level and not just playing "for fun". Do you have any suggestions where I can start to learn more tactics? I'm a very tactical person myself and I think chess is very good game for me. Is it good if I start with just watching chess videos?

  • For tactics I recommend getting the mother of all tactics books (reviewed on my site) and working with it over a real chess set. There are online options available but if you're serious about playing over a real board, it will be key to recognize tactical opportunities (both positions you try to setup and those that your opponent does) with a real set. Best of luck in your pursuits!

  • The position at 5:44 doesn't lead to a modern Benoni.

  • Please post why and what you think does. Thanks for checking out the vid!

  • It's like you said earlier in the vid. White can get into an English opening by playing 4.Nf3 avoiding the Benoni altogether..

  • I dont like it when the either knights are blocked from their first moves like in this case where the queenside knight cant move to

    c6. Too much pawn pushing for me.

  • I don't get it, if you move the black pawn there, can't it be eaten by the white pawn?

  • i guess you're talking about the bangkok gambit. gambit is a line where you give up a piece and gain positional advantage for doing so.

  • when the white pawn eats there will be 2 white pawns infront of each other not good at all the 2 pawn s are usless now

  • does any knew where to play chess that cheats is not allowed... am tired of playing with computer assistance. i couldn't win.. :-(i tried icc but i got 7 days only...plssss help...thanks..j-robi you explained it very well..once again v-good vid and thanks for all your lessons..i have a good improvement..hope you kept posting....god loves you...

  • At 4:08 it seems like black could win a pawn with Knight to E4. If black recaptures with knight then the Queen can check on A5 and win the Bishop. And of course I'm an idiot, and just realized that after knight takes pawn then bishop takes D7. So never mind I guess. lol

  • if you mean Nxe4 2.Nxe4 Qe7 so then I think 3.0-0 and Qxe4 can't be done for Re1

  • No, I was seeing NxE4, NxE4, and then Queen checks on A5 winning the bishop, and then I noticed that after Nxe4 the bishop could just take d7, or even better NxE4, NxE4, QA5+,BD2, here if Qxb5 then Nxd6+, and white wins the Queen.

  • 3:45 how do you call that move?

  • Its called a fianchetto. I always pronounce it with the Ch instead of the K sounds, but anyway that is what it is called when you set up your bishops in that formation.