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  • How exactly are we "only paying for labor" ? Are we not also paying for goods? Where exactly did you dispose of this in your train of thought, it wasn't explained in your video.

  • @ja524309 money equal labour mate. goods come from someone labour. everything is labour and thoughts.

  • @izzysmart No, you're wrong. Any particular act of labor is obviously also contingent upon the availability of natural resources and goods used in the production of other goods. Ergo, the price system, which serves to dictate that with which it is that people spend their time toiling. You must have some sort of mechanism in place to make such decisions. If it's not going to be the monetary system, then burden of proof is surely upon you and your supporters to propose an alternative.

  • GREAT..just one itsy bitsy problem..most Americans (I am one so I can say this) are too lazy to work without getting a paycheck. They would have to labor for specific things and not labor on one thing to get paid a bunch of money then buy whatever they wanted, which is mostly junk.

  • @1986TruthSeeker agreed the sheep, we have them over here too lol. Greed is the problem

  • but what about if you want extra food?

  • @Fiskarfred grow more. peopel too greedy

  • @izzysmart No, I mean like: If you are having a party, you want to have snacks.

    Maybe a birthday cake... Or just some candy on the weekend_?

  • @Fiskarfred o I see. lol, communities should make it together help one another. its all take take take in the real world

  • We don't need salt.

  • yeah you can join the movement here 3xw thezeitgeistmovement dotcom and this is the UK chapter 3xw thezeitgeistmovementuk dotcom

  • Hey Izzy you hear anything about the zeitgeist movement from what you say your on the same page :-)

  • @c6number2 zeitgeist, watched both films. is there a group too?

  • humans dont need to work FULL STOP.. we have the technology to create a society that is labor free.. the monetary system is whats holding technology back.. because technology is the monetary systems worst nightmare.. you should look at something like the venus project., we could live in a society like that now. its 100% achievable

  • @GoGetDaGimp interesting

  • new world order created money, governement created that shitty paper that ruins everyones lives dont trust the world its at the brink of destruction

  • I'd like to live that way. I need groceries about now, but no farmer or grocery store owner would barter with me. I don't have anything my neighbors would want or need. I need gas to put in my car, and a new car part about NOW. Where are all the people who could barter with me for that? I really would like to live that way; exchanging services and goods instead of paper money. But, how do we get to that point?

  • @ebayportraits I hear u, Hopefully the sheep will wake up, people are starting to realise, Time will tell

  • shes right we dont need money its time to change.....please wake up! we dont need world leaders we can all be leaders but only if money is out and free is in freedom........the real freedom the 1 that weall dream about....please just wake up

  • thanks for watching

  • You make a valued point sista.

    We all have to help each other to let the so called powerful to fail.

  • Yeah lets stand xx

  • OMG! Thank you, It IS just that simple! why do we need money? they have enslaved us to work for what should be free! No one can own LAND! That is crazy! they have charged us for what they DO NOT AND CAN NOT OWN and yet..we allow it! We can create a world without the system, based on love, respect and honesty. We have until 2012 to get it together, at that time we will enter into the reality WE HAVE CREATED! how great is that! We can envision and create this, all workers of the light.

    Namaste

  • anytime xx

  • this is just what i was pondering today right on come on people this is a good idear we have the power

  • I've got a great idea, send me all the money you don't want.

  • Well said hun. Labour =conforming to their agenda in some way whether we like it or not. This aint about physical money but about credit. There is enough technology to completly do away with fossil fuels and produce our energy in a safe way directly from Mother Nature... If it was "labour" in producing results for the right reasons (A loving community) then the tag becomes a 'wanting to do.' The money system is as corrupt and unquestioned as religion. Nice hat btw ;-P

  • yep agree thanks

  • even if you take away money there is still going to be CORRUPTION. Lets say i grow carrots, you grow apples, and some 1 grows grapes. I find a way to grow carrots 3 times faster then u grow apples. obviously im going to benefit off the "free trade" system or enterprise. theres always going to be greediness. thats nature. there will always be a money system!

  • Ok this is of the top of my head so excuse me if the position is flawed or if I repeat some post below which I haven't red.

    The price of gold could go up if the population, and there by the amount of labor, grows faster than the gold introduced in the system.

    Simply put.. less gold for each person/labor unit and given that the value of work done by a person remains the same then the value of gold increases.

  • Isn't it also about demand? If more people want it (because they think it's worth something), it costs more...

    The only reason gold is worth anything in the first place, is because everybody believes it's worth something. If everybody would stop believing that, it would be valueless.

  • VERY  GOOD!!!

  • Hi Izzy have you heard of Participatory Economics (ParEcon)? It's a proposal for an alternative to Capitalism. What you said reminded me of it. I think it might be what you're looking for.

    The whole book on it is online free at zcommunications (dot) org/zparecon/pareconlac.htm

  • Nice vid. The monetary system has enslaved the world. Money = Slavery. And those who control the monetary system are the slavedrivers.

  • Right, but don't forget there are people out their who had worked very hard for their money. Sure they had to boss people around, but that's what they had to do to make money. Who is going to give them their time back?

  • They (the elite) can still control folks with property taxes. So you can own your property and work your own land but they can still take it if they implant micro chips into people.

  • I totally agree with what Izzys saying all that money has done is turn people to greed and the 9 to 5 system is ther to routinely make people so busy they cant have more time to relax create evolve and think for themselves. So well said spot on!

  • Some people don't get it Izzy,

    However when they are old and gray and their children are feeding them from the garden fresh veggies they grew and staying in the Natural cob house they made, and they are using solar and wind power, and recycling every bit of water they get via rain fall and gray water and the like, they will get it... they will realize that the kids know Mother earths Mad as hell and she's heating up!

  • when's your birthday Izzy?

  • 7th march

  • SALTS BAD FOR YA LMAO

  • rubbish salt and water are the most important things in the human body. high blood pressure is cause due to lack or salt and water.

  • Labor is about servival we need food and a place to live nothing's free ,if I need someone to do something I can't do for me I pay someone to do it for me.Money is a simple way to trade.This is retarded I'm writing this and she's still blabbering.Thank I gotta go back to work .

  • Izzy we love you, but your such a stoner. half way through a sentence you notice how red your face looks, bless you your lovely

  • thats the camera adjusting focus colour changes usually in first few mins of vlog, automatic

  • that was suppose to say *lose control over us in the below post

  • Totally agree, the Zeitgeist sequel called Zeitgeist Addendum goes into this in a lot of depth and there is a good 25 minutes of information on the corrupt banking system and the NWO dickheads behind it. i highly recommend it if you havent seen it yet. In a moneyless society though the NWO people would do their utmost to stop it from from happening because they would love control over us

  • I remember hearing a few years ago about a village in England who had decided to ditch money in favour of credits and opted for a scheme similar to the one you're proposing here Izzy, i can't remember the exact details but apparently it was a very successful system, have you heard anything about this and do you know if it's still going ?

    Peace and love Izzy.

  • there are a couple of places started in the 60 and 70s no one else joins i dont think its made difficult to do such things but as man kind waking up many will want to

  • Creating money out of thin air and charging interest on money that does not exist is a fraud and designed to fail. The Rothschilds and all the other criminals involved in this scam need to be arrested immediately, for crimes against humanity.

  • We could setup a non-profit organization, something like, "The New Civilization," so we wouldn't have to pay taxes to the money criminals. And we could use the money that we have to buy the materials and technology we need to be self-sustaining.

  • I agree with you. A moneyless world is where we have to go for the betterment of humanity. We just have to work out, in detail, how to get there. If a local community is in control of the factors of production, it can produce everything it needs without going to a store to buy. Once we are able to do that, money would be obsolete.

  • WE dont make it that complicated... they do on purpose remember...

  • agreed

  • Thank you!! I have the same thought and I am glad there is someone who thinks the same way.

  • I do not like your hat though...it's scary :)

    xo

    tfhl

  • LMAO your funny

  • Glad I gave u a laugh....Keep up the great videos :)

    I just hate the skull and bones logos we see in all the fashion these days :)

    I LOVE U THO :)

    xo

    tfhl

  • Ihear ya i just a rocker, so things must be black its like a up yours to them

  • ur brilliant

    xo

    tfhl

  • Well said if we give up selfishness and stand together to fix the Earth problems will survive.

  • Right On!

  • I couldn't agree more.Remember the film Bugs life?The ants collect the food,the grasshoppers eat the food......and then one day the bugs realise that if they all stand together they can defeat the grasshoppers.United,our power would be phenomenal.

  • yep watch usa stand if that bill goes threw you know we will follow as people will not like the usa goverment killing there own

  • Good idea and well said! I hope people understand the importance of your idea's! Love,Light,Peace or else.

  • yep

  • What happens when the government comes to take what you own.

    You have to fight back, so they crackdown? you end up with a revolution.

    If you let them take from you and well .. you become a slave.

  • they own nothing of mine mate, i own all my things no credit on them and own no money, if they try they will have to shoot me or jail me simple

  • I think people will have to evolve some before labor for labor would work. People are still unethical when it comes to greed and power.

  • I do agree but people need to evolve else we all in shit, I off to start my own community a friend has land so if push comes to shove that what i will do i can live in the wild i do not need all this material shit people consume.

  • My concern is for those that cannot provide labour - the sick. Who will take care of those who cannot work? If there's going to be no monetary system what system will be in place for medical care? I know the NHS is fucked but some form of health care is needed and presumably a government to ensure it gets done - ?

  • I hear you, health care would be included in the labour scheme some sick people can work in front of a pc etc etc, but most sickness created by the goverment and the health service. I am anti goverment if you put someone in charge you will always have problems money is irrelevant to whether you sick or not mate. But money is the problem people need to wake up and stop depending on an authority figure to help.

  • we should change car engines with anti-grav technologies invented by Geramns and perfected by russians and american scientist..anti0grav requires NO GAS and NO WORKING PARTS..its just electomagnetic Fields..

  • Pressured air, you would never need fuel

  • also humans have transcended scarcity, the know how and the resources are all there for us to create everything, grow all the food etc. we want, its just controlled through money. money is an illusion.

  • Totally agree

  • finally someone who speaks of something ive benn saying for eaons to people.people thought i was crazy for speaking such awesome,loving and peacefull idea.

  • Thank god someone on the same page as me people need to wake up from the greedy consuming illusion they live in

  • They probably lend out more than 10x what you put in hahaha. You watched the new Alex Collier videos didn't you! hahaha if not you sound just like his description of how the Andromedans live.

  • No not seen it mate

  • You know how we could strike back? Stop drinking sodas or soft drinks for one week. Send a message to their talking heads(media/medes) that we have a say in this.

  • like it, i dont drink it but thousands do

  • Thousands? Millions perhaps billions are drinking this stuff.

  • drinking what stuff sorry ?

  • Uh izzysmart, we were talking about sodas.

  • O yeah i remember bloody comments out of order

  • Yep agreed maybe we should campain it

  • Agreed.

  • cool when you thinking send me details will make a video, colab or you uploading too???

  • You do it well. Make it your idea, I don't care. But one week would send a clear message. Also if everyone would stop watching telle-lie-vision just for one week. Well that one might be harder for most.

  • Like it can i add your name in video or you rather be left out up to you

  • No can send a plea to Mr 180. Ask to fav and send to bulletins and news release sites. Set a particular date. And then watch coke-cola stock fall and send a message to the talking heads, "we are not just going to roll-over".

  • ok that coooool thought i best ask

  • Great video Izzy, very true if only the masses would see it like that, God bless

  • thanks mate peace love and light

  • speaking of Diana...i posted a vid about that.

    use the money you have to write messages on about certain things not being the way THEY say it happened and circulate it.

  • yep saw that very cool idea

  • This makes me think of one of my pet peeves. Supposedly, we have the "right" to own property. Really? Don't pay your taxes for a while and you'll soon see who really owns your property.

  • You own the bricks and mortar but the land is a open purchase order that can be recalled at any time by the state, you can take the house and move it plus 1 inch of soil, Like hello who the hell is gonna move a house, its one big con the whole mortage thing at least its a sercured loan not unsercured.

  • hit the nail on the head izzy...right on, "stick together" PEACE!

  • Kind of like a commune. The hippies had the right idea.

    Oh,I forgot - we have to pay the interest on the deficit, which is federal tax.

    Can you elaborate more on Diana and the reptile story?

    I have an extra bedroom if someone needs it. I am in OH.

  • diana use to say that the royals were not human, and she was known to refer to them as the reptiles. Rememeber they wanted her for the genes harry has a different dad.

  • If they wanted her for her genes maybe she was a reptile too - if they only interbreed? Haven't read up on this - just questioning. I hadn't heard that Harry has a different dad. Where'd you hear that?

  • No blond hair blue eys are the only genes that help them keep there human form, blond hair blue eyes are the orginal ayraian race, easy to brain wash to. So they needed the mix, diana was certainly not reptile

  • and .... why do we pay to live on a planet we were born on?.....lol

  • Yep i agree

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