To skepticepillptic: These guys played the Grenadiers in the movie, and Grenadiers were definately "well built", as you put it. After I watched this, I recognized the drummer and the dude with the glasses during the fort scene. just fyi. :)
it was a great film the only thing i would say that is inacurate in this is that most of the english soldiers of that time were mere boys between 15 and 22 and were slightly built not well built like most of the men portraying them here
Wow. Nice video. I thought the clarity would be worse given the age but what do I know? I love that you have Captain Dye in there. He was the guest of honor at my company's mess night in 2002. A fine Marine and a true gentleman. Thanks again.
Great movie. You can see a sort of truck when british are leaving fort William Henry, and at the first of the movie, a man running with the deer. Just curiositys (sorry my english).
I didn't see myself in the video, but I was there. Saw a bunch of my buddies. That brought back a lot of memories! I remember Curtis Gaston, who shot the video. very cool...
Mark Edrys
35th Regt. of Foot "Swannanoa Swamp Rats" summer 1991
FYI, for the uninitiated...the drill was a compilation of several drill manuals of the time period, plus a good amount of made-up stuff. In other words, "movie drill". Pretty much bogus. This was done to "look pretty" on film. The "hooo" shouted when coming to the present for firing, the passing forward through ranks to fire, and much more -- all made-up. Which in the end is OK really as LOTM is based on the novel, a work of fiction.
No, I was not there in 1757. But there were those who wrote the drill manuals, the diaries, the memoirs, etc, etc, etc, who were. No "hooo" ever mentioned.
"When the argument is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates
No, I dissagree. Silence in the ranks. not "hoo" no "hua" no "sa". Dye was in the USMC und they have a practice of shouting "Hua", It is very likely Dye used it for training the extras, and the moviemakers or Dye keept it in for cineastic reasons
In an standing army, with the common soldiers oppinions beeing worth less that the dirt under their shoes, they were drilled to do what they were told. What they were told was written down in the manuals. I guess, if you'd join, let say the USMC, and star shouting "jojojo, santa in da hood" when going to present-arms, I gues the Instructors would beat the shit out of you. It wasnt much different back then, after all, the army is not a which-you-what society.
well i think this movie would have been better had it been filmed in upstate ny. im a reenactor at fort ontario (fort oswego) we just had our 251st last week of the french and indian.
At 7:13 the motions for shoulder your firelock from rest firelock is wrong. you go to poise firelock the shoulder firelock.
I don't want to down play Britain here because they did the right thing to win this war but the french would have won in America if it would not have been of France's refusal of sending troops to Montcalm. The french canadians were better fighters in the woods than the rangers and the french in general were better for diplomactic talks with the indians than the British.Holding for 150 years an enemy 6 time bigger in number than you and still live in French today in America, it's pretty good...
i dont think its fair to say that the french would have won if france had sent more troops. as with all history, "ifs" are irrelevant.
say france did send more reinforcements, maybe the british would change their tactics, or maybe even though wolfe's army is outnumbered, his soldiers make a miraculous victory, or maybe yes through some other events, the french win.
but regardless, this is all hypothetical and doesnt matter.
How on earth do you know France would have won? You DON'T. There was a more important war waging with much larger battles in Europe. France's preliminary success was due to the British attacking forts without enough men.
The french did pretty well in America if you consider the fact that France was no longer sending reinforcement and that the British had the opposite strategy. The siege of Québec was going very bad for the British. Wolf acted desperatly and proved to be successful1 He used a strategy that no body was beleiving in...not even himself...he did not want to return in England with shame and apparently was ready to commit suicide if he had to, according to his writing to his mother during the siege.
Is the boyfriend Will Boyer? I'm pretty sure that's him, but I haven't seen him since the early nineties. His sister Pepsi told me that he moved to England... that must have been around 1992 or so. A good friend of mine was the stand in for Daniel Day lewis in that film. It was interesting to see that footage. Thanks for sharing.
The 35th had their revenge at Quebec when they fired upon seeing the whites of the Frenchmens eyes thus securing North America for the British and English as the 'global language'. They deleted the scene where the British were doing well and only kept the massacering scenes.
Actually, luck was the biggest factor. Wolfe was lucky that Vaudreuil was such an idiot and blocked Montcalm's fortification plans for Quebec. Wolfe was lucky that Pompadour was more interested in her horses than Canada. He was lucky that some Scottish officers spoke French. He was lucky that winter came before France could send more troops. And, on the battlefield, he was lucky that Vaudreuil's raw militia fired too soon, and were stopped by the counter volley before they broke his line.
And it was luck that Howe didn't capture Washington at Long Island, it was luck that Hitler diverted his bombers to London, it was luck that the fog lifted at New Orleans, it was luck when a Mongol Army was all but destroyed in a storm on route to Japan. By your logic, battles are won and lost by luck. Or is that you just want to down-play Britain? Wolfe made a masterful stroke at Quebec, the French were beaten decisively.
Additionally, given that France and her Allies were pretty much defeated by Britain and Prussia in Europe it probably doesn't matter what luck was involved. There are no 'ifs' in history.
Wonderful behind the scenes from one of my favorite movies.
nyrmetros 4 months ago
I had seen this video before but had never noticed Dale Dye was swearing the Royal Marines (green) beret...
dtkd100 5 months ago
The guys in this video are hot.
mandymatti82 5 months ago
RM cap badge!
rollerballrico 1 year ago
Capt. Dale Dye .... I know that voice anywhere ....
BeirutVeteran83 1 year ago
damn look at those big ass celll phones 30:25
JUKIO01 1 year ago
Good movie. Thanks for sharing your video.
benzodiazapines 1 year ago
Thank you so much for this. Now I shall watch the flim. =D
phillitupp 1 year ago
To skepticepillptic: These guys played the Grenadiers in the movie, and Grenadiers were definately "well built", as you put it. After I watched this, I recognized the drummer and the dude with the glasses during the fort scene. just fyi. :)
AndrewsaysRTR 2 years ago
this has to be one of the longest vids on utube!
TrumpetHero11 2 years ago 2
my dad is in this movie and in the last part of the clip. he is mr. hurley.
driice90 2 years ago
This is so cool !
Sweden80Here 2 years ago
Capt Dye is fantastic but I dont know who came up with the manual of arms they are using because for the French and Indian War it is totally FUBAR.
FrozenEMT 3 years ago
it was a great film the only thing i would say that is inacurate in this is that most of the english soldiers of that time were mere boys between 15 and 22 and were slightly built not well built like most of the men portraying them here
skepticepilleptic 3 years ago
15 is faaaaar to low. 17 was the minimum, the absolute minimum. The majority of soldiers was it the 20s, some 30+
LutzDerLurch 2 years ago
hahaha dale dye.
blaisejones 3 years ago 2
omg didn't know Dale Dye did this!!
I thought Call of Duty series came to mind..
SLIMIMPHAL 3 years ago
October 8, 1992.
Don't ask me why or how I remember exactly when I saw this in the movie theatre's back then, I just do.
ChetCampbell72 3 years ago 14
Very interesting video.The last of the Mohicans is my favorite movie.
Koubas92CZ 3 years ago 11
That is so cool Capt Dye was the advisor!
Wyrmshadow 3 years ago
Watch " sharpe's rifles".
Then you will know.Long live the 95th.
THEPRREDATOR 3 years ago
Wow. Nice video. I thought the clarity would be worse given the age but what do I know? I love that you have Captain Dye in there. He was the guest of honor at my company's mess night in 2002. A fine Marine and a true gentleman. Thanks again.
tooch2024 3 years ago 2
Great movie. You can see a sort of truck when british are leaving fort William Henry, and at the first of the movie, a man running with the deer. Just curiositys (sorry my english).
mfsm67 3 years ago
Very impressive
and very inspirational!
Makes me what to jump right in with my musket & cartridge box and frog...
diepart 4 years ago
I doubt you will find many men willing to fight like they did in these wars
brave men
plzIneedhelp 4 years ago 3
I didn't see myself in the video, but I was there. Saw a bunch of my buddies. That brought back a lot of memories! I remember Curtis Gaston, who shot the video. very cool...
Mark Edrys
35th Regt. of Foot "Swannanoa Swamp Rats" summer 1991
shoehead65 4 years ago
did u appear in the movie?
DanielDayCorelli 4 years ago
Yes I agree
Pickett14thLouisiana 4 years ago 5
FYI, for the uninitiated...the drill was a compilation of several drill manuals of the time period, plus a good amount of made-up stuff. In other words, "movie drill". Pretty much bogus. This was done to "look pretty" on film. The "hooo" shouted when coming to the present for firing, the passing forward through ranks to fire, and much more -- all made-up. Which in the end is OK really as LOTM is based on the novel, a work of fiction.
bentonjennings 4 years ago 2
Since you were there in 1757 to know whether or not they yelled "hooo" when they presented arms .. . you historical know-it-alls crack me up
PState216 3 years ago
haha word
PzVIE43 3 years ago
No, I was not there in 1757. But there were those who wrote the drill manuals, the diaries, the memoirs, etc, etc, etc, who were. No "hooo" ever mentioned.
"When the argument is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates
bentonjennings 3 years ago 2
The present cry wasnt not "hoo" what they are saying is "Sa'" the British accent version of Sir and it was done precisely that way.
FrozenEMT 3 years ago 2
No, I dissagree. Silence in the ranks. not "hoo" no "hua" no "sa". Dye was in the USMC und they have a practice of shouting "Hua", It is very likely Dye used it for training the extras, and the moviemakers or Dye keept it in for cineastic reasons
LutzDerLurch 2 years ago
"Sa"? Really? Were you there on set and taught something different from me? (I was in command of the "Highland Company".)
bentonjennings 2 years ago 3
In an standing army, with the common soldiers oppinions beeing worth less that the dirt under their shoes, they were drilled to do what they were told. What they were told was written down in the manuals. I guess, if you'd join, let say the USMC, and star shouting "jojojo, santa in da hood" when going to present-arms, I gues the Instructors would beat the shit out of you. It wasnt much different back then, after all, the army is not a which-you-what society.
LutzDerLurch 2 years ago
in north america britain absolutely won the war
last of the mohican was an exception
chiorru 4 years ago
reminds me of my days of re-enacting
Irishman286 4 years ago
Mine too..only I played the fife in the fife and drum corps......
horstrnr 4 years ago
British perfected that.And our invention!!
seangrie8 4 years ago
Wow thanks for posting this is RARE footage!
addict2824 4 years ago
This is absolutely fascinating. Thank you for posting it for us.
RiverBirch1967 4 years ago
coooool :)
jaskiran123 4 years ago
WOW
Roman55Legions 4 years ago
GOOD !!!
musliMan1987 4 years ago
Cool this is from that skirmish line scene when they create a diversion for the courier to go outside the fort.
galatian5 4 years ago
Thank you so much kurt; it should be in the dvd's extra.
maxxamaxxa 4 years ago
are that real weapoms??
Nord7777777777777777 4 years ago
I'd say "Yes"
LutzDerLurch 3 years ago
well i think this movie would have been better had it been filmed in upstate ny. im a reenactor at fort ontario (fort oswego) we just had our 251st last week of the french and indian.
At 7:13 the motions for shoulder your firelock from rest firelock is wrong. you go to poise firelock the shoulder firelock.
ccmpro1234 4 years ago
I was one of the crew who made this movie. I remember as it was dated yesterday in sweet Asheville NC.
I PARTICIPATED IN THIS MOVIE :)
bahoss 4 years ago
I don't want to down play Britain here because they did the right thing to win this war but the french would have won in America if it would not have been of France's refusal of sending troops to Montcalm. The french canadians were better fighters in the woods than the rangers and the french in general were better for diplomactic talks with the indians than the British.Holding for 150 years an enemy 6 time bigger in number than you and still live in French today in America, it's pretty good...
montcalm88 4 years ago
i dont think its fair to say that the french would have won if france had sent more troops. as with all history, "ifs" are irrelevant.
say france did send more reinforcements, maybe the british would change their tactics, or maybe even though wolfe's army is outnumbered, his soldiers make a miraculous victory, or maybe yes through some other events, the french win.
but regardless, this is all hypothetical and doesnt matter.
jackng 4 years ago 3
Precisely.
Talbot6832 4 years ago
How on earth do you know France would have won? You DON'T. There was a more important war waging with much larger battles in Europe. France's preliminary success was due to the British attacking forts without enough men.
Talbot6832 4 years ago
So the British were smarter by attacking forts with less men.
Dont say France would have won because they didnt
spiritcrunch 4 years ago
The french did pretty well in America if you consider the fact that France was no longer sending reinforcement and that the British had the opposite strategy. The siege of Québec was going very bad for the British. Wolf acted desperatly and proved to be successful1 He used a strategy that no body was beleiving in...not even himself...he did not want to return in England with shame and apparently was ready to commit suicide if he had to, according to his writing to his mother during the siege.
montcalm88 4 years ago
How Great is THIS?
My brother just sent me the link to this clip.
I was an extra (asleep in the fort with the woman singing nearby), and I was amazed at the whole process.
My most vivid memories are of "ack SHEN!" and "Remember: If you're comfortable, you're WRONG!"
THANKS for sharing! I hope the stars of these clips are still close!
meridethtohayes 4 years ago
Cpt. Dale Dye is the man.
Thank him for making Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brother so amazing.
ParanoidGenius 4 years ago
Amazing, thank your for sharing !!!
robinrc2074 4 years ago
Is the boyfriend Will Boyer? I'm pretty sure that's him, but I haven't seen him since the early nineties. His sister Pepsi told me that he moved to England... that must have been around 1992 or so. A good friend of mine was the stand in for Daniel Day lewis in that film. It was interesting to see that footage. Thanks for sharing.
resoJo 4 years ago
Fascinating. Thanks!
arkamina 4 years ago
this just has a ton of sex appeal :P
gotta love those boys in uniform! its even sexier cuz they're practicing for the amazing movie "last of the mohicans"!
sabbathschild 4 years ago
Love to see 20th century boys doin' it 1700s style---yeeha!
Windyhoosier 5 years ago
I take it that the opinions and views expressed in the commentary are not the views of 20th Century Fox or its affiliates ~ hehe
Fitchman 5 years ago
half cocked
88keysinarow 5 years ago
Fascinating video. Thank you for sharing it.
bmused55 5 years ago
wow fascinating thanks for this
utubesucks2003 5 years ago
The 35th had their revenge at Quebec when they fired upon seeing the whites of the Frenchmens eyes thus securing North America for the British and English as the 'global language'. They deleted the scene where the British were doing well and only kept the massacering scenes.
Talbot6832 5 years ago
if its the scene i think your refering to i think they put it on the dvd
vege22o 5 years ago
Get the directors cut DVD to see the 35th diversion tactics. Some music is left out but all in all, the DVD is an improvement.
Bullettube 5 years ago
Actually, luck was the biggest factor. Wolfe was lucky that Vaudreuil was such an idiot and blocked Montcalm's fortification plans for Quebec. Wolfe was lucky that Pompadour was more interested in her horses than Canada. He was lucky that some Scottish officers spoke French. He was lucky that winter came before France could send more troops. And, on the battlefield, he was lucky that Vaudreuil's raw militia fired too soon, and were stopped by the counter volley before they broke his line.
Kyle359 4 years ago
And it was luck that Howe didn't capture Washington at Long Island, it was luck that Hitler diverted his bombers to London, it was luck that the fog lifted at New Orleans, it was luck when a Mongol Army was all but destroyed in a storm on route to Japan. By your logic, battles are won and lost by luck. Or is that you just want to down-play Britain? Wolfe made a masterful stroke at Quebec, the French were beaten decisively.
Talbot6832 4 years ago
Additionally, given that France and her Allies were pretty much defeated by Britain and Prussia in Europe it probably doesn't matter what luck was involved. There are no 'ifs' in history.
Talbot6832 4 years ago
The red coats are ur dadys
Norsk1224 5 years ago
excellent demostration of military tactics
babenewport 5 years ago
cheers for this kurt!
griffinf123 5 years ago