0:06 ha they say the wait is finally over, which is false because as soon as meshuggah release a new album, then you can't help but wait for the next album :)
like Snyderman41104 said its somethin to do with a sick Mind on philosophy in a sick kind of religous concept ,ya like take for example all the EVIL videos made by Cradle Of Filth its a concept behind ,bands cobine such concepts which they read from books to create sound thats wat i say
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Yeah, of course dear. That's why they teach lessons on MESHUGGAH at Berklee and they've been the subject of discussion at music-theory symposiums. They're discussing the unmusicalness of them.
Quick, I just saw Bono drop-kick an orphan. You better catch his halo.
@Hzqi When a drummer needs to blow a quarter of a million dollars for a b/s education at berklee you'll see a never was. tell Buddy Rich or any of the old jazz gtreats they suck until they go to school. LMFAO. berklee exists to milk fools like you on the flavor of the month subjects. You are a non playing moron son.
You're a non-thinking moron. Noone said you needed a Berklee education or advocated formal education as essential element of either artistic or commercial music success. Buddy Rich is great. As are many of the formally education. I myself have a pretty affectionate partiality to the self-made musical forces. Mainly because individual stylings interest me more than technical virtuosity. And nothing you've said addressed the unavoidable fact. You've merely straw-manned your way around it.
@Hzqi Blah Blah blah. You've got everything going here except the cheerleaders. LOL. Blah blah blah. Thou protesteh way to fucking much!!! I guess you have an unpayable college tuition?
@Youwishyoucouldplay Flavor of the month symposium. What did you expect? They need to keep ripping, er, I mean attracting young dumb well healed students of the I think Meshuggah is cool age. No big mystery. Still it is only a con, unecessary game for non players.
The amount of contradictory nonsense you speak is bordering on impressive. First you go on the offensive with ad populum arguments like "Flavour of the Month". Then you deride MESHUGGAH for appealing to a small fanbase. As if they don't realise the ways to expand it if that was their cause, by middling out their sound with accepted wisdom. You do realise there is an important function for music professionals, behind what is presented on the stage, right? Too much credit?
@Hzqi There's a big problem with your supposition that Meshuggah could go commercial if that was a goal...Simply they aren't talented enough as musicians/songwriters or singing to accomplish anyyhing in that realm. No, austerity is what they are capable of. At least they know their limitations.
The reductionism of music theory down to merely the notes on paper is egregious. Akin to saying digital photography is merely pixels. And aside from everything else that you're saying, many of those involved in the officiation of music tend to be composers themselves. Many great musicians have either emerged from, or remained in, the ranks of intitution teachers. The best musicians in the world, also tend to coordinate with these people in educational workshops.
Actually, there's no problem at all with the supposition. For you to base your assertion on the idea that they aren't "talented enough" as musicians isn't just stupid. It's hilarious. Talented compared to what commercially successful band? Papa Roach? On a technical level, there isn't anything commercial successful around right now, that would even challenge them to play. Kidman hasn't "sung" since the first album. The brutal hardening of their sound is deliberate. And is irrespective of success
MESHUGGAH could make their music more accessible, simply by making it less extreme and less interesting. Deduct all the musical dynamics, iron out a bunch of ordinary riffs, tell Kidman to stop roaring so harshly, and pander to whatever stylistic mentallity is contemporarily hip. This would be neither a conceptual or technical challenge. They write abstract and avant-garde albums like Catch 33 specifically BECAUSE they aren't pushing in that direction. It's called integrity. The great barrier.
@Hzqi Whatever Einstein. Too much theory as usual and no ass kicking music from you. That's your problem. Later w/the constant doctoral thesis. Are you a teacher? Me thinks so. Suck eggs non player. I smoke a drum set. I'll let you tell em how I did it!! LOL
Maybe you do smoke a drumset. I couldn't assume. Tomas Haake however, does, smoke a drumset. Drummer's World Metal Drummer of the Year 2008 for obZen. Ahh wait, I forgot you said all modern metal. A vast amount of modern metal sounds to me like the cookie monster having an embolism while his finger is stuck in a fan (dadadadadadadada). Meshuggah is nothing like the flat-heeled, 5th grinding blast-beating norm of the rut of most metal. But there's always ruts to all genres.
Only a drummer could produce a gem like "Too much theory". Drummers are great value in practice rooms. Like sponges for comedy. One of my favourite every remarks was hearing a drummer chime in about something, and someone says "Shoosh you, BANG! is not a note".
@Hzqi yeah. True. You talk , talk ,talk and talk about your theory. You want theory? Here's mine...You can talk shit but you can't play your way out of a doggy poop bag to save your life. Can't play jack shit theory boyeee.
My theory is that I'm secure in my pursuits. And while I don't participate so much in the activities of the academics, that I'm not purturbed about some paradoxical theory troll. Gauging by your philosophical standpoint in input I'm not especially convinced that you'll ultimately contribute much of import to the musical landscape. Maybe you're even more paradoxically inventive on skins, maybe not. I've got better things to discuss musically, however, than this, with you.
There are things I have even been tempted to say, but won't, as it's not information I'm interested in sparking a tangent in. As for your inconsequential remarks about "play". Lol, I won't address them beyond, play what? And it depends what you mean by "play".
Your argument is somewhat analogous to: "Sports scientists, PFFFT! If they knew so much about it, THEY would be the track and field stars!" Who do you think organizes and collates the very officiation of standardized music languages? An important function to be dismissed if freewheelers so desire. It's a practice that acts as the pillars of language progression. Who transcribes copies of music written and played by ear? Testifies to plagerism in court? Musicologists.
@Hzqi Big fucking deal. They can hear and record notes to paper, they can testify to infringemnet. However not one of them could actually write the tune in question or record the original great tracks either. Kinda of a flunky supporting role.
The reductionism of music theory down to merely the notes on paper is egregious. Akin to saying digital photography is merely pixels. And aside from everything else that you're saying, many of those involved in the officiation of music tend to be composers themselves. Many great musicians have either emerged from, or remained in, the ranks of intitution teachers. The best musicians in the world, also tend to coordinate with these people in educational workshops.
The reductionism of music theory down to merely the notes on paper is egregious. Akin to saying digital photography is merely pixels. And aside from everything else that you're saying, many of those involved in the officiation of music tend to be composers themselves. Many great musicians have either emerged from, or remained in, the ranks of intitution teachers. The best musicians in the world, also tend to coordinate with these people in educational workshops.
And that's aside from the discussions about MESHUGGAH that have been held at some of the more recent music theory symposiums, which again, the very fact alone that the professors and musicologists are discussing it, by your measure, means they're getting together to literally discuss nothing. Nothing musical. As for your "You are a non playing moron"? Non playing of what? How many things don't I play?
@Hzqi Professors? I fthey were any good at music they would be known as professional musicians. But that's not the case is it? Couldn't cut it in the trnches of pro craftsmanship. Hey I've got a theory about Meshuggah too. It's callled the how toplay everything to be unmusical and get a very small fanbase . How to live in austerity program. attractive?
Fact remains that Berklee, whether necessary or overpriced, is an exemplary source of musical education. This source offers programs specifically pertaining to -not just metal- but specifically: MESHUGGAH. Your statement that they are "unmusical" is simple idiotic. Aside from the basic subjectivity argument that I don't much go for. By fact of technical definition, their music is brimming with various, idiosyncratic musical languages. Just not your preference, apparantly.
@gielomir2 I read somewhere that obzen was the zen achieved through obscenity, and meshuggah tried to resemble that in the picture. The man in the locus position resembles the peace and zen, whilst the blood he's covered in resembles the obscenity. Theres an unbelievable amount of things to look for when looking at meshuggah. Whether its history, album art or song meanings. For example, on catch 33, in death is life is 2:01, in death is death is 13:21. Probably some meaning behind that too...
There's blood all over him not just where he's sitting. The whole point of the dude meditating in blood is to show that he found zen in obscene, violent things. Hence "ObZen." But maybe you already knew that too...
@Snyderman41104 I didn't know that. What I also don't know is why is he meditating in blood... nude? I mean you would think you would contract some sort of disease or something easier that way. Also, what is with the third arm.
@Snyderman41104 Oh i get it now lol. I honestly thought it was a reference to BME pain olympics and 1 man 1 cup... like as in the guy found peace by cutting his dick & sack off & breaking a jar in his ass... but of course... Meshuggah's song concepts are never quite that simple XD
@Snyderman41104 i think the real answer is obvious mister sir! They used a female for the bottom part so obviously its about a woman in her period listening to meshuggah...from her vagina
its actually not cause theyre absolutely infantile till the age of at least 31. they dont even know how to drink properly. red cupped impregnating fools
Actually, everyone here (USA) over the age of 45 is generally retarded and thinks Jesus talks to them while they're on the toilet. (There are always exceptions though) Some of the most intelligent and knowledgeable people I know are young. One of the smartest people I know is currently 17 years old - but he's a freak of nature (in a good way).
You are Satanist? lorenzo scarola decided in the name of Jesus, that youtube is not for you: go!
you can count those who have already died here?
You trust, even Satan, and everyone knows that he is a liar?
We even protect the mercy of God?
You'll be here again to cancel your account? Or your youtube remain here in your eternal shame as a tombstone? Blood of Jesus on you to save or destroy.
How many people have you seen that have been sacrificed to Satan?
meshuggah is pissin me off! they need to headline a tour and come by the southern US... i can't believe they're not coming down south with Cynic and The Faceless! the last time i saw them was with Ministry... and Ministry is a fucking disgrace.
I don't know about the best metal band ever (allthough I can completly understand why you would say that) but their definatley the most metal band ever
hahaha! Thier my favirote of all time. There's alot of good stuff out there! Keep goin EnergizerBunny804!! :P If it's any consolation, I like Megadeth more that I like Metalica! I dunno, I'm just sayin! :) Keep it metal!! What's your favirote metal band?
My fav metal band has gotta be Metallica I know they aren't quite as heavy as your stuff but you know I've known them alot longer than Meshuggah, and to be honest I didn't like Meshuggah at first but now theyve gotta be one of my favourites
yeah I subscribe to any metal channel I can find on youtube, Children of Bodom, Metllica, slayer, Lamb of God, I even subscribed to Korn out of boredom and of course Nuclear Blast
You officaly fuckin rule!! I Love all those bands!!! Korn got me into metal!! Nuclear Blast is where it's at now a days when it comes to metal!! Dave Salvira "form Kron" Was my # 1 insparition as a drummer when I was young! I used to be a korn head!! Now I'm just metal!! Are you a girl or guy? Just curious. I noticed you used hte word bunny in your user name.
oops! Sorry dude! And yeah Les is the shit!! Buckethead also kicks my ass! I love all kinds of stuff! Metal is the shit but There is so much good music out there, why listen to one genere? My fav tunes by primus are Laquer head and southbound pakederm! Primus is the balls! Old school Van Halen kicks my ass too! I love it all if it's real music, not driven by commercialism, but driven by passion!
I would have to say that my most hated band is Jonas Brothers not because of their music but because of how popular they are I mean what does that say about are society?
It's nice here! In Ontario where I live the drinking age is 19. Everyone here drinks a lot! It's one of our national past times! lol Where are you from?
That sucks dude! I think when you're 19, you're mature enough to drink. Come to Canada for a vacation sometime, Preferably Montreal! the drinking age is 18 and you can walk around the streets drinking and the cops do nothing! I went there for New Years a few years back and it is absoultely sick! I though Ontario was the shit, WRONG To to Montreal if you get the chance! It's sooo layed back!
Meshuggah is by far the most brutal no holds bared in your face metal band to ever exist in my opinion! By far my favirote! This song is fackin SICK!!!
And Meshuggah's first album was Psykisk Testbild - wich translates to psychological test pattern, this relates to the psycho, and unstable state of the world - psycholigy is the way in wich people can comunicate and satan and because of this - the bands is crypically saying that people are doomed to hell and a servants of satan AKA demons. *thumbs up*
Hah!, you just dont understand the symbolism, it not just a GORE picture...god damnit, Tomas say that what they mean with Obzen is "Mankind has found its "Zen" in the obscure and obscene. wich is true. We Humans are bleedning, and we are bleeding bad =/, with wars etc etc, I personly think man sitting in that position is forming a pyramide. like all seeing eye. at the bottom, we are "Bleeding" at the top " shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"...ignorence at bottom. Illuminated ones on the top.
You could look at it that way, but I always figured from what Tomas said is that that guy is meditating in the vomit and blood of others. It's like the guy finds inner peace reveling in others dismay.
also if you look at his three hands covered in blood they kind of make an arc of six's. meaning satan. which is where we as a race are right now. we have found our zen in destruction and in killing. basically we have found our zen in doing the work of satan
the damn cover fits the title obZen and the music PERFECTLY..i dont understand all these guys who dislike the cover...it's just a simple computer animation but whatev? it just fits, that's enough
With full respect to your point of view, I find the exection unimprovable.
-talking of the full wide-
The fidelity of the photograph. The well-cast subject, the exacting quality of the pose, the elegantly visionary pale make-up juxtaposing the symbolic blood, the continuing theme of threes brilliantly applied to his lotus limbs, the compositional air of lighting and background of ominous storm gatherings over cross slab.
Aesthetically, personally one of the best covers I've ever seen.
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It's a great concept, sure... but what I'm saying is, they could have designed it much better. It's not a photograph anyways. It's a 3d rendering, which is fairly obvious.
It just doesn't do the same for me as it does for you I guess...
0:06 ha they say the wait is finally over, which is false because as soon as meshuggah release a new album, then you can't help but wait for the next album :)
EveryonePickedMyName 2 months ago
Does anyone else notice that on the cover, obZen is using the same letters as Zoso from Led Zeppelin?
lilrocker1053 8 months ago
@lilrocker1053 Not exactly the same, but comes close. Is awesoem!! ;p
NitroCoasters 6 months ago
I wish these kinds of commercials were on American television, all we get is commercials for lady gags on a cock and Justin beaver
skateNappreciate 8 months ago
His three hands are each forming a six, to make 666 ;)
Waziwamba 9 months ago
Shit, now I have a headache from head banging to hard.. I was going to study, well there goes my plans.
InternetLawman 11 months ago
This was the first time I ever head the Bleed riff. Blew me right off my fucking chair!
Ragnarockalypse 1 year ago
fuck i wish i went to that show!! pity i didnt know about Meshuggah then :/
Hamtime117 1 year ago
oh man this one made me wish ministry was still an active group;both these bands touring were the fucking blowup;pure awesomeness\m/
bloodyrockfire 1 year ago
like Snyderman41104 said its somethin to do with a sick Mind on philosophy in a sick kind of religous concept ,ya like take for example all the EVIL videos made by Cradle Of Filth its a concept behind ,bands cobine such concepts which they read from books to create sound thats wat i say
yngwie8 1 year ago
@yngwie8 I haven't got the faintest idea what point you're trying to get across, but your English teacher should be fired on the spot.
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DNMVORTEX6 1 year ago
Not bad
WarMachine778641 1 year ago
@Hzqi Let me blow you first, then we smoke and talk. I can't play jack shit but nobody, then or now, gives head like me, boyeee!!!!
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alzhaimar 1 year ago
"in a genre awash with Riff-and-Howl clones, Meshuggahs music really is peerless stuff" Soooo true
UrbanSpower 1 year ago
@UrbanSpower Not true ..This band is just full of shit like all other modern metal shitheads. same exact unmusical shit.
Youwishyoucouldplay 1 year ago
@Youwishyoucouldplay
Yeah, of course dear. That's why they teach lessons on MESHUGGAH at Berklee and they've been the subject of discussion at music-theory symposiums. They're discussing the unmusicalness of them.
Quick, I just saw Bono drop-kick an orphan. You better catch his halo.
Hzqi 1 year ago
@Hzqi When a drummer needs to blow a quarter of a million dollars for a b/s education at berklee you'll see a never was. tell Buddy Rich or any of the old jazz gtreats they suck until they go to school. LMFAO. berklee exists to milk fools like you on the flavor of the month subjects. You are a non playing moron son.
Youwishyoucouldplay 1 year ago
You're a non-thinking moron. Noone said you needed a Berklee education or advocated formal education as essential element of either artistic or commercial music success. Buddy Rich is great. As are many of the formally education. I myself have a pretty affectionate partiality to the self-made musical forces. Mainly because individual stylings interest me more than technical virtuosity. And nothing you've said addressed the unavoidable fact. You've merely straw-manned your way around it.
Hzqi 1 year ago
@Hzqi Blah Blah blah. You've got everything going here except the cheerleaders. LOL. Blah blah blah. Thou protesteh way to fucking much!!! I guess you have an unpayable college tuition?
Youwishyoucouldplay 1 year ago
@Youwishyoucouldplay Flavor of the month symposium. What did you expect? They need to keep ripping, er, I mean attracting young dumb well healed students of the I think Meshuggah is cool age. No big mystery. Still it is only a con, unecessary game for non players.
Youwishyoucouldplay 1 year ago
@Youwishyoucouldplay
The amount of contradictory nonsense you speak is bordering on impressive. First you go on the offensive with ad populum arguments like "Flavour of the Month". Then you deride MESHUGGAH for appealing to a small fanbase. As if they don't realise the ways to expand it if that was their cause, by middling out their sound with accepted wisdom. You do realise there is an important function for music professionals, behind what is presented on the stage, right? Too much credit?
Hzqi 1 year ago
@Hzqi There's a big problem with your supposition that Meshuggah could go commercial if that was a goal...Simply they aren't talented enough as musicians/songwriters or singing to accomplish anyyhing in that realm. No, austerity is what they are capable of. At least they know their limitations.
Youwishyoucouldplay 1 year ago
The reductionism of music theory down to merely the notes on paper is egregious. Akin to saying digital photography is merely pixels. And aside from everything else that you're saying, many of those involved in the officiation of music tend to be composers themselves. Many great musicians have either emerged from, or remained in, the ranks of intitution teachers. The best musicians in the world, also tend to coordinate with these people in educational workshops.
Hzqi 1 year ago
Actually, there's no problem at all with the supposition. For you to base your assertion on the idea that they aren't "talented enough" as musicians isn't just stupid. It's hilarious. Talented compared to what commercially successful band? Papa Roach? On a technical level, there isn't anything commercial successful around right now, that would even challenge them to play. Kidman hasn't "sung" since the first album. The brutal hardening of their sound is deliberate. And is irrespective of success
Hzqi 1 year ago
MESHUGGAH could make their music more accessible, simply by making it less extreme and less interesting. Deduct all the musical dynamics, iron out a bunch of ordinary riffs, tell Kidman to stop roaring so harshly, and pander to whatever stylistic mentallity is contemporarily hip. This would be neither a conceptual or technical challenge. They write abstract and avant-garde albums like Catch 33 specifically BECAUSE they aren't pushing in that direction. It's called integrity. The great barrier.
Hzqi 1 year ago
@Hzqi Whatever Einstein. Too much theory as usual and no ass kicking music from you. That's your problem. Later w/the constant doctoral thesis. Are you a teacher? Me thinks so. Suck eggs non player. I smoke a drum set. I'll let you tell em how I did it!! LOL
Youwishyoucouldplay 1 year ago
@Youwishyoucouldplay
Maybe you do smoke a drumset. I couldn't assume. Tomas Haake however, does, smoke a drumset. Drummer's World Metal Drummer of the Year 2008 for obZen. Ahh wait, I forgot you said all modern metal. A vast amount of modern metal sounds to me like the cookie monster having an embolism while his finger is stuck in a fan (dadadadadadadada). Meshuggah is nothing like the flat-heeled, 5th grinding blast-beating norm of the rut of most metal. But there's always ruts to all genres.
Hzqi 1 year ago
@Hzqi
***All modern metal is rubbish.
Hzqi 1 year ago
@Youwishyoucouldplay
Only a drummer could produce a gem like "Too much theory". Drummers are great value in practice rooms. Like sponges for comedy. One of my favourite every remarks was hearing a drummer chime in about something, and someone says "Shoosh you, BANG! is not a note".
Hzqi 1 year ago
@Hzqi yeah. True. You talk , talk ,talk and talk about your theory. You want theory? Here's mine...You can talk shit but you can't play your way out of a doggy poop bag to save your life. Can't play jack shit theory boyeee.
Youwishyoucouldplay 1 year ago
@Youwishyoucouldplay
My theory is that I'm secure in my pursuits. And while I don't participate so much in the activities of the academics, that I'm not purturbed about some paradoxical theory troll. Gauging by your philosophical standpoint in input I'm not especially convinced that you'll ultimately contribute much of import to the musical landscape. Maybe you're even more paradoxically inventive on skins, maybe not. I've got better things to discuss musically, however, than this, with you.
Hzqi 1 year ago
There are things I have even been tempted to say, but won't, as it's not information I'm interested in sparking a tangent in. As for your inconsequential remarks about "play". Lol, I won't address them beyond, play what? And it depends what you mean by "play".
Hzqi 1 year ago
@Youwishyoucouldplay
Your argument is somewhat analogous to: "Sports scientists, PFFFT! If they knew so much about it, THEY would be the track and field stars!" Who do you think organizes and collates the very officiation of standardized music languages? An important function to be dismissed if freewheelers so desire. It's a practice that acts as the pillars of language progression. Who transcribes copies of music written and played by ear? Testifies to plagerism in court? Musicologists.
Hzqi 1 year ago
@Hzqi Big fucking deal. They can hear and record notes to paper, they can testify to infringemnet. However not one of them could actually write the tune in question or record the original great tracks either. Kinda of a flunky supporting role.
Youwishyoucouldplay 1 year ago
@Youwishyoucouldplay
The reductionism of music theory down to merely the notes on paper is egregious. Akin to saying digital photography is merely pixels. And aside from everything else that you're saying, many of those involved in the officiation of music tend to be composers themselves. Many great musicians have either emerged from, or remained in, the ranks of intitution teachers. The best musicians in the world, also tend to coordinate with these people in educational workshops.
Hzqi 1 year ago
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@Youwishyoucouldplay
The reductionism of music theory down to merely the notes on paper is egregious. Akin to saying digital photography is merely pixels. And aside from everything else that you're saying, many of those involved in the officiation of music tend to be composers themselves. Many great musicians have either emerged from, or remained in, the ranks of intitution teachers. The best musicians in the world, also tend to coordinate with these people in educational workshops.
Hzqi 1 year ago
And that's aside from the discussions about MESHUGGAH that have been held at some of the more recent music theory symposiums, which again, the very fact alone that the professors and musicologists are discussing it, by your measure, means they're getting together to literally discuss nothing. Nothing musical. As for your "You are a non playing moron"? Non playing of what? How many things don't I play?
Hzqi 1 year ago
@Hzqi Professors? I fthey were any good at music they would be known as professional musicians. But that's not the case is it? Couldn't cut it in the trnches of pro craftsmanship. Hey I've got a theory about Meshuggah too. It's callled the how toplay everything to be unmusical and get a very small fanbase . How to live in austerity program. attractive?
Youwishyoucouldplay 1 year ago
Fact remains that Berklee, whether necessary or overpriced, is an exemplary source of musical education. This source offers programs specifically pertaining to -not just metal- but specifically: MESHUGGAH. Your statement that they are "unmusical" is simple idiotic. Aside from the basic subjectivity argument that I don't much go for. By fact of technical definition, their music is brimming with various, idiosyncratic musical languages. Just not your preference, apparantly.
Hzqi 1 year ago
I anticipated this album like the second coming of fucking Christ...
Generalsnusarn 1 year ago
what is a obzen?
gielomir2 1 year ago
@gielomir2 I read somewhere that obzen was the zen achieved through obscenity, and meshuggah tried to resemble that in the picture. The man in the locus position resembles the peace and zen, whilst the blood he's covered in resembles the obscenity. Theres an unbelievable amount of things to look for when looking at meshuggah. Whether its history, album art or song meanings. For example, on catch 33, in death is life is 2:01, in death is death is 13:21. Probably some meaning behind that too...
borris93 1 year ago 3
what exactly does obZen mean?
Like what does it trasslate to?
JosephThePenguin 2 years ago
@JosephThePenguin
Obscene + Zen = ObZen
happyzipi 2 years ago 5
ha thx mate.
JosephThePenguin 2 years ago
Any band that has a commercial for theyre new album has to be badass.
Meshuggah is amazing.
ShaneIsStillAlive 2 years ago
great commercial
Bleed is what got me into Meshuggah, but Dancers To A Discordant System is my favorite song from the album -- It is such a powerful track
passinginyourwords 2 years ago 5
@passinginyourwords
obZen and this spiteful snake are good :]
uberwarlocker 1 year ago
exceedingly technical systematic destruction.
vdopower66 2 years ago 6
the tildes on the names of the commentors were unnessesary i felt.
YourSilentReflection 2 years ago
This commercial should have been shown on U.S. TV during Desperate Housewives or American Idol XD!
mvunit3 2 years ago 147
fuckin genius dude!!
6lackMetal6o6 2 years ago 3
this is legend!!!!!!!
yourbloodonmyhands 1 year ago
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themetalreview180 1 year ago
@mvunit3
no, put it on the disney channel. that would scare the crap out of the little kids watching.
Fluffypopcicle 1 year ago
the picture at 0:27 is crazy.....
ThisKitchenIsBichin 2 years ago 8
thats the album cover, bra.
metalscan55 2 years ago 6
Your name is too.
DamageInc0rparat3d 2 years ago
You sound like a retard to me
ChetnikHighlander 2 years ago
Is that man castrated? That's what it looks like to me.
Power2theFlyingV 2 years ago
No, it's two models, the a male for the torso, and a female for the abdomen and the legs in the lotus position.
insult0master 2 years ago 5
No I mean there's blood comin' out from where that thing is sitting. Already knew that.
Power2theFlyingV 2 years ago
There's blood all over him not just where he's sitting. The whole point of the dude meditating in blood is to show that he found zen in obscene, violent things. Hence "ObZen." But maybe you already knew that too...
Snyderman41104 2 years ago 64
Yeah I pretty much knew that lol. Can't wait for the next Meshuggah album if they ever do come out with another one :D
Power2theFlyingV 2 years ago 4
Ditto!
I can't get enough of their stuff. And it never gets old. Probably cuz of the varying rhythm structures...
Snyderman41104 2 years ago 8
I agree, just started getting into them a few weeks ago and I just listen to them over and over, never gets old.
eGreg24 2 years ago 7
@Snyderman41104 I didn't know that. What I also don't know is why is he meditating in blood... nude? I mean you would think you would contract some sort of disease or something easier that way. Also, what is with the third arm.
oOJupiterMeltsOo 1 year ago
@oOJupiterMeltsOo
Beats me. Maybe it has some connection with an old philosophy or religion like Buddhism that is involved with the whole "zen" idea.
Snyderman41104 1 year ago
@Snyderman41104 Oh i get it now lol. I honestly thought it was a reference to BME pain olympics and 1 man 1 cup... like as in the guy found peace by cutting his dick & sack off & breaking a jar in his ass... but of course... Meshuggah's song concepts are never quite that simple XD
Zyborggian 1 year ago
@Snyderman41104 i think the real answer is obvious mister sir! They used a female for the bottom part so obviously its about a woman in her period listening to meshuggah...from her vagina
what?
babadef 1 year ago 4
@Snyderman41104 I hadn't spotted that, that's a great play on words, especially since English isn't even their first language!
longhairedtory 1 year ago
I would have jizzed in my pants had I of seen this...
SnitchDrizzles 2 years ago 5
if i saw this clip on TV i would think that television has finally grown some balls
monoxidevm 2 years ago 9
If this was a TV commercial, it would have scared the shit out of some of the more "normal society" people.
kitchensink01 2 years ago 8
thats meshuggah for ya ^^
Flatvia 2 years ago 4
i got this album out of hmv right, Fell apart moment i opened it XD
TheSockies 2 years ago
That was because the awesomeness held on the CD could no longer be contained!
RiderAndKallen 2 years ago 7
drinking age in US is 21 :'c
yummycars 2 years ago
lame!!!
MikeeNemeth 2 years ago
its actually not cause theyre absolutely infantile till the age of at least 31. they dont even know how to drink properly. red cupped impregnating fools
HarleyJohansson 2 years ago
Actually, everyone here (USA) over the age of 45 is generally retarded and thinks Jesus talks to them while they're on the toilet. (There are always exceptions though) Some of the most intelligent and knowledgeable people I know are young. One of the smartest people I know is currently 17 years old - but he's a freak of nature (in a good way).
TKDWolf 2 years ago 5
you otta be kill and have your balls riped off for saying that
lockyear93 2 years ago
you too
Kikinutkiksass 2 years ago
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you can count those who have already died here?
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Of these victims, what did you eat?
lorenzojhwh 2 years ago
Shut up. God's not real. Neither is satan. There are no supernatural beings.
Mangothebeast8000 2 years ago
You are correct, Sir! Nice to see some people still have logic!
00Ibanezist00 2 years ago
Thank you for backing me up.
Nadelauncher101 2 years ago
whos that white man on the cover of all their albums looking like marilyn manson
kiamarukeemos 2 years ago
1. he's only on this one 2. he's a monk
Gsidez10 2 years ago
He's not a monk, he's just a model portraying the zen lotus position used by zen practitioners.
woahkudros 2 years ago
The top part is a male model but the bottom is female since the guy couldn't do the lotus.
abdnumber4 2 years ago
Weird, because some can and it's not that hard.
lighteelco 2 years ago
In Sweden it's whenever you wish to drink !
Hanses0 2 years ago
Come to Germany. Drinking age 16... but i think they put it up on 18... but no one cares
SergeantP 3 years ago
The drinking age in Denmark is 16. I think its 16 in Germany too :P.
Muffinz525 2 years ago
Cant hate DRI, Sabbat, Gojira or nevermore though :) and dying feutus
Jakkdametalhead 3 years ago
meshuggah is pissin me off! they need to headline a tour and come by the southern US... i can't believe they're not coming down south with Cynic and The Faceless! the last time i saw them was with Ministry... and Ministry is a fucking disgrace.
pimpriggsley 3 years ago
Obzen>Catch 33
why? two words... Dancers... Bleed. 2 of my top 3 favorite meshuggah tracks...
pimpriggsley 3 years ago
got a meshuggah hoodie that says obzen on the back it bad
Abaraiken420 3 years ago
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thedevilscolt 3 years ago
MESHUGGAH is the BEST metal band EVER!!!! At least in my opinion!
bgggbb 3 years ago 6
I don't know about the best metal band ever (allthough I can completly understand why you would say that) but their definatley the most metal band ever
EnergizerBunny804 3 years ago 2
hahaha! Thier my favirote of all time. There's alot of good stuff out there! Keep goin EnergizerBunny804!! :P If it's any consolation, I like Megadeth more that I like Metalica! I dunno, I'm just sayin! :) Keep it metal!! What's your favirote metal band?
bgggbb 3 years ago
My fav metal band has gotta be Metallica I know they aren't quite as heavy as your stuff but you know I've known them alot longer than Meshuggah, and to be honest I didn't like Meshuggah at first but now theyve gotta be one of my favourites
EnergizerBunny804 3 years ago
That's cool! Can't deny Metalica's awesomeness! I heard them way b4 Meshuggah!! I'm just a huge fan of European metal! :) \m/
bgggbb 3 years ago
yeah I subscribe to any metal channel I can find on youtube, Children of Bodom, Metllica, slayer, Lamb of God, I even subscribed to Korn out of boredom and of course Nuclear Blast
EnergizerBunny804 3 years ago
You officaly fuckin rule!! I Love all those bands!!! Korn got me into metal!! Nuclear Blast is where it's at now a days when it comes to metal!! Dave Salvira "form Kron" Was my # 1 insparition as a drummer when I was young! I used to be a korn head!! Now I'm just metal!! Are you a girl or guy? Just curious. I noticed you used hte word bunny in your user name.
bgggbb 3 years ago
Uh, I'm a guy, anyways its not all metal for me Les Claypool from Primus is who got me into bass
EnergizerBunny804 3 years ago
oops! Sorry dude! And yeah Les is the shit!! Buckethead also kicks my ass! I love all kinds of stuff! Metal is the shit but There is so much good music out there, why listen to one genere? My fav tunes by primus are Laquer head and southbound pakederm! Primus is the balls! Old school Van Halen kicks my ass too! I love it all if it's real music, not driven by commercialism, but driven by passion!
bgggbb 3 years ago
I would have to say that my most hated band is Jonas Brothers not because of their music but because of how popular they are I mean what does that say about are society?
EnergizerBunny804 3 years ago
P.S. You rule because you're from Canada!! Canada is the best place to live on the entire planet!!
bgggbb 3 years ago
i wanna visit canada...theres alot of hotties there and the drinking age is 18!
testicularhomicide1 3 years ago
It's nice here! In Ontario where I live the drinking age is 19. Everyone here drinks a lot! It's one of our national past times! lol Where are you from?
bgggbb 3 years ago
from fucking virginia....im 22 and have younger girlfriends that are 19 and 20 and the drinking age is 21 so i cant take them out with me! it sucks!
testicularhomicide1 3 years ago
That sucks dude! I think when you're 19, you're mature enough to drink. Come to Canada for a vacation sometime, Preferably Montreal! the drinking age is 18 and you can walk around the streets drinking and the cops do nothing! I went there for New Years a few years back and it is absoultely sick! I though Ontario was the shit, WRONG To to Montreal if you get the chance! It's sooo layed back!
bgggbb 3 years ago
P.S. George St Pierre is from Montreal! GSP!!
bgggbb 3 years ago
drinkin age is 19.. 18 in quebec
Pantera411 2 years ago
only in alberta man. where i'm from! come party up here! its pretty redneck though.... not many metalheads lol
chawoosemothergoose 2 years ago
omg dude drinking age is 19 over here in Ontario. and i have seen very few hotties here man try somewere else!!!
Bl00dShinobi 2 years ago
whoa I need to buy that!... Oh ya, I already have it.
dustpanfryingpan 3 years ago
wow, Meshuggah toured with ministry?
weird. O_o
XxSconeManxX 3 years ago
I saw it live! they were well matched! I didn't expect it either! I love both of em! Meshuggah pwoned though!
bgggbb 3 years ago
Meshuggah is by far the most brutal no holds bared in your face metal band to ever exist in my opinion! By far my favirote! This song is fackin SICK!!!
bgggbb 3 years ago 2
Did the album cover guy rip or eat his testicles off?
EidbrecherFan 3 years ago
the top half is a dude and the bottom half is a girl, MANNN!
hellonieman 3 years ago
ah thatnks for clearing that up .
EidbrecherFan 3 years ago
Combustion is a fucking crazy track!
Gorthornofficial 3 years ago 2
And Meshuggah's first album was Psykisk Testbild - wich translates to psychological test pattern, this relates to the psycho, and unstable state of the world - psycholigy is the way in wich people can comunicate and satan and because of this - the bands is crypically saying that people are doomed to hell and a servants of satan AKA demons. *thumbs up*
sykisK 3 years ago
wtf are you talking about sykisK, you have no clue do ya?
makelelemakelele 3 years ago
You're a clueless cunt - I was obviously being sarcastic, it was basically a reply to "plopenstien"
It was just a shit talk for those goth tossers - but "plopenstien" was pobly joking too.
sykisK 3 years ago
Meshuggah needs to fucking headline and tour the US.
consumingtheeyeballs 3 years ago
the song bleed makes me cream my pants
23animosity23 3 years ago
this album is so fucking brutal!!
MeanT241985 3 years ago 3
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these guys are such sellouts. they should have gone on TV.
pradnia 3 years ago
bleed is pretty much orgasmic.
pedromiles101 3 years ago 6
what is the name of this song ??
Angels4Death 3 years ago
the song is called bleed.
inkheart1414 3 years ago 4
Must...buy...
TrustInFlames 3 years ago 2
Kylie forever!! I heard she's supporting them on their summer tour....interesting
GrooveMetalDude 3 years ago
I want this commercial played on every television station regardless! All must know of Meshuggah! ALL!
LordRiderFan 3 years ago 5
haha yeah i can imagine this coming on tv right after sings of worship. people would smash their tv's with crucifixes
plopenstien 3 years ago
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love this CD, but this commercial is mad gay.
LordHines420 3 years ago
why do some meshuggah fans dislike Tool? I know they are totally different styles and all. Im just curious.
Tool78Maynard 3 years ago
I love them both :D
So much, lol.
nirvana324 3 years ago 2
meee too
melak6 3 years ago
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Tool's only great album is Lateralus.
LordHines420 3 years ago
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probably because that's the only album you've heard
illahee24 3 years ago
wrong. try, all. n00b.
LordHines420 3 years ago 2
noob
Manuelucci 3 years ago
I agree with you! What about Anima?
bgggbb 3 years ago
Really? I dig both bands...Didn't they tour together at some point?
deathbox75 3 years ago
i read Tool was added too this tour.
uberblazed421 3 years ago
Hah!, you just dont understand the symbolism, it not just a GORE picture...god damnit, Tomas say that what they mean with Obzen is "Mankind has found its "Zen" in the obscure and obscene. wich is true. We Humans are bleedning, and we are bleeding bad =/, with wars etc etc, I personly think man sitting in that position is forming a pyramide. like all seeing eye. at the bottom, we are "Bleeding" at the top " shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"...ignorence at bottom. Illuminated ones on the top.
midvinter666 3 years ago 4
your comment alone is a riddle im still trying to decipher =/
dvinb12345 3 years ago
You could look at it that way, but I always figured from what Tomas said is that that guy is meditating in the vomit and blood of others. It's like the guy finds inner peace reveling in others dismay.
Juggalo11046 3 years ago
also if you look at his three hands covered in blood they kind of make an arc of six's. meaning satan. which is where we as a race are right now. we have found our zen in destruction and in killing. basically we have found our zen in doing the work of satan
plopenstien 3 years ago
this record's rounding in my car since 1 month ago.
I can't stop listening Obzen!
frasd81 3 years ago 2
I dont listen to meshuggah to look at the cover.. god damn some of you bitchs whine too much
gleegin 3 years ago 3
the damn cover fits the title obZen and the music PERFECTLY..i dont understand all these guys who dislike the cover...it's just a simple computer animation but whatev? it just fits, that's enough
fruluv 3 years ago
actually meshuggah said the top half is a male model but the bottom half is a female model because the man couldn't fold his legs like that...no joke
abysslord16 3 years ago
Yeah, this album is totally sick. The cover is terrible though...
TheRecluse26 3 years ago
I know! I don't get it....
Still, AMAZING album.
Keep up the great jams Meshuggah!
Purkinje90 3 years ago
Yeah, totally.
TheRecluse26 3 years ago
The cover is a perfect marriage of the theme and aesthetic.
Their most inspired cover yet.
Hzqi 3 years ago 3
I'm not talking about the meaning or inspiration behind it, it's just very poorly designed. They could have done a much better job...
TheRecluse26 3 years ago
With full respect to your point of view, I find the exection unimprovable.
-talking of the full wide-
The fidelity of the photograph. The well-cast subject, the exacting quality of the pose, the elegantly visionary pale make-up juxtaposing the symbolic blood, the continuing theme of threes brilliantly applied to his lotus limbs, the compositional air of lighting and background of ominous storm gatherings over cross slab.
Aesthetically, personally one of the best covers I've ever seen.
Hzqi 3 years ago 2
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It's a great concept, sure... but what I'm saying is, they could have designed it much better. It's not a photograph anyways. It's a 3d rendering, which is fairly obvious.
It just doesn't do the same for me as it does for you I guess...
TheRecluse26 3 years ago
Actually it's not a rendering. That dude's a male model. Obviously he doesn't have 3 arms, but it is a real guy in front of green screen.
Gtrsecks 3 years ago 5
Oh, you're right. I checked it out. It really, really looks like a rendering though.
TheRecluse26 3 years ago
I guess I could comprehend what you're trying to express with greater clarity, if you'd propose how they could improve it.
Hzqi 3 years ago
I heard the actually cross-legged position was done by a woman, and they put it in because the male model couldn't get into that position
Purkinje90 3 years ago 3
true
Yaksniffer 3 years ago 3
correct
8stringerr 3 years ago 3
oh yur cooool
illahee24 3 years ago