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  • ford zetec s are shit did you see it get to 60 i had to go and have another shave it took that long and plus they look shit. The saxos are way better i reckon the 1.0 litre would beat that haha.

  • probs cause your saxo is the mk2 version....

  • @edhigham Saxo vtr has 100 bhp not 89..

  • Ooooh 23 k is it for sale??

    looking for a zetec s got £2,500 atm nearly got 3, looking for a blue one only .preferably phase 2 no higher than 60k.

  • im gettin a zetec s soon i was wondering if any1 could tell me the difference between the zetec s mk5 phase 1 and phase 2 ?? is it things like colour or grill ? if so let me know . thanks

  • ohhh zetc s look so nice...shame they soo slow tho

  • This is the phase 2 Zetec S max power is at 6400rpm limiters around 6800

  • change at 6000rpm its better for the engine and it has more power...

  • Im thinking of gettin gone of these coz im getting rid of a 110 gt tdi golf, what are like to drive on motrway do they pick up well.

  • Why dont you go for a test drive? are you buying a new one or same mark as the one in my vid? basicly you will feel a difference as the ka has 60bhp and the zs has at least 105 bhp.

  • yeah looking at the same one as u got 00-02. cheers man. was between a zs, vtr or a pug 206 xsi

  • Dont buy a vtr whatever you do lol. Ok there nippy little things but fall apart so easily, pug 206 xsi are nice and going quite cheap these dyas too, there nippy aswell like.

  • wot about a civic or sumin

  • zs anyday man, had a vtr (shockin) had a 106 gti (still french) zetec s was my best, spot on!

  • you had a 106 gti and prefered the zetec s? The vtr are shockin, while the 106 gti is build shitty its a lot more fun than a zs. I really like the zetec s has great charms but its not the best car in the world lol

  • yea, had some trouble with the 106, maybe just some bad luck lol

    zs, no problems, comfortable, not the3 fastest thing in the world but i dnt use it often!

  • my 106 gti was very reliable despite very obvious shoddy build quality, but then mine was bought from a middle aged coulple and was well looked after. Handling wasnt the best tho, seemed very light at the back end while the zs i drove was very predictable understeer filling you with confidence on a back road blast

  • ZS's have only 102bhp and 140NM of torque at 4k , saxo VTR's are quicker on the straight when they only have 89bhp

    buy the zetec s much better build quality and mine is amazing to drive.. well was till i crashed into a fence!

  • you do realise that the VTR's from year 2000 got the power put up to 100BHP? Thats why there slightly quicker in a straight and plus they weigh nothing. Just thought id let you know, was bored lol

  • yeo he's right first one hd 89bhp then it went up to 98bhp wen u get to around 80-90 the zetec s starts to catch up with the vtr tho, guess its the extra 4-5bhp and beter aerodynamics

  • vtrs r built for women, hence those close pedals lol

    zetecs slower but handling wise, is superior by a country mile

    better built, better quality

    oh, and it aint french shit that brakes down every 1000miles!

  • What are you on?

    I own a 106 rallye s1 1.3 and it sticks to the road and handles like a go kart. 120bhp 0-60 in under 8 seconds.

    Why bother with a zetec s they are poor performing cars for a 1.6 16v

  • zetec-s is 105bhp isnt it ??

  • Yeah around about there, it says 103 in my owners manual :)

  • @camhardcore eh?  VTS has 100hp, maybe less. VTR has 120bhp and weighs 950kg.

  • @dragythuno other way round pal, VTS is the 120bhp model

  • just wondering guys/gals. i have a ford ka standard. i am looking to buy a zetec-s in july. would u guys say there would be a significant difference in driving? i mean like when u put ur foot down could u really tell the difference between a KA and a ZS? any comments greatly aprecciated..

  • To be fair.

    i have a 1.25 zetec s, im 17 and it does me fine. its quick enough for me and they are quite nippy. The insurance is also not bad.

    No one is pretending a fiesta is a contender for the worlds faster car but for what it is, its fucking brilliant!

  • The Ford Fiesta zetec-s was the first 'hot hatch' in some time for ford...when it was released it got compared to the glory days of the rs turbo and the xr2i.

    Considering this car was released only 8 years its seriously underpowerd for what it is. I mean 1.6 16 valves and co-developed by yamaha and they still only manger a scrape above 100 bhp.

    My peugeot 205 xs which i owned killed a zetec s. Pointless cars considering whats out there...in terms of CC and insurance group.

  • im just saying its flat..and wow..its co-developed with yamaha...they make keyboards right...

  • they also make the r1 motorbike? deosnt mean there shit.. lamborghini make key rings and there not shit?

  • na but seriously, sorry for calling u a cock!!! i mean for a twin cam engine its got nothing on the likes of vtec's, which i might add is the same CC with equal amount of valves and they push out 158-185 standard! i mean really...

    BUY A DECENT CAR YOU CHAV

  • If this engine had VTEC on board,it would eat all hondas 1.4l engines! This engine is developed for normal daily usage,this is not sport engine. Compare CivicTypeR (200bhp) and Clio Sport(182bhp),and see who wins - although Clio lacks 18bhp,he is still faster arround the track,even till 200kph. Honda and VTEC are good,but not something worth dieing for. There are tons of other good engines,that trully amazing,like this one developed with Yamaha (yes,al Zetec's are Ford & Yamaha's engenierings)

  • LOL calling him a chav at least his car is stock a bet ur shitty vtec honda is riced up to fuck and the engine is still stock.....

  • zetec - s's are slow, they dont rev out like a honda/peugeot...or anything comes to mind...my mates revs out just over 6,000 rpm. They feel really re-stricted.

    BUY A DECENT CAR YOU FOUND ON THE ROAD -SIDE DAILY COCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • atleast have your own car before saying shit about this one. prick.

  • corsa's are fucking wank

  • LOL corsa's are a pile of shit!

  • Jesus Christ that is a slow car! I nearly fell asleep waiting for it to reach 60mph, what is it a 1.2litre?

  • 1.125 the car is deffo slow tho..

  • my 1.2 99 reg corsa will fuckin smoke this m8 i get like 0-60 in about a day yeaa bring it

  • 1.2 corsa?? i think u would actuly suck a cock to be able to afford a zetec s then

  • your fat mums the only 1 tht sucks mate its my 1st car and i already got 6 points b4 i had a lisence so u can suck my cock!

  • just prooves your a shit driver lol! maby u best not get a 1.6 fiesta if a 1.2 got you so much troble lmao

  • nah, actully got 6 points beeing on a r1 motorcycle mate cuz i like real power not ur shitty fuckin old fiesta with a chav body kit k+n and a fuckin bean can on the back lol no i shall wheelie past ur chav mobile on the back wheel...

  • then ull wake up wipe the lip smegma off ya face and might just think about moving out of mummys house and maby find a job? unfortunatly we normal people have to pay high tax'es just to pay for your doll money now come on grow up you silly twat

  • wake up wipe the smegma off my face? and grow up all in the same sentence lol mate u need to grow up if u cant even have a respectable coversation with some1 then yes u clearly are the sort of person who will acheive nothing bettter in like then owning a ze tech lol. i ride a R1 i think the bottom line is u kno u cant fuck with my R1 ur just a jelous little cock we normal ppl have to pay ohh boo fuckin whooo thank mate my doll comes in this week think im gonna buy sum new rims for my corsa.

  • the only respectable thing i can say to you is that you listen to wu-tang clan which is good.

  • r1's are rapid but at 17 a fieta zetec is rapid and for mei wont be thinking bout a fast bike till im 20-21 so a zetec isnt so bad is it...but yeah dibble childish insults are gonna get u nowere

  • more to the point the fiesta model in the video u can get for cheap as fuck mate bowt 2 grand i could by 1 2day...

  • corsas are crap, buy a decent car chav!

  • my 1st car and im sellin it soon what do u drive tht is so great anyway?

  • a mk6 fiesta - about a million times better than a corsa

  • saxo = cheap parts are stuck on with saliva fiesta= quality engine quality interior quality handling

  • agreed except the interior of the fez is really anything but quality, looks like an old lady car from inside! other that that, the fez zs engine is top notch

  • god y dont u go fuk a vtr up the arse pedaltothemetal god u bot saxo's GIMP, ps ZS btter

  • zetec s with 23k on the clock!? i wellll wanna buy one but most of them have around 50K on the clock. supergay.

  • the standard suspension on a fiesta zs is much better than that on the saxo, which means in real life, on twisty B roads the fiesta is going to be much quicker.

  • in real life haha no ones playing a computer game are they,and it depends on the driver for a start

  • bull.... get a strut brace...

  • and you did that on a red light of petrol not impressed :/

  • less fuel = less wieght, although he had his mate in the car lol

  • By lookin at the position of the gauge he could get around 30-40miles to that...

    probably lower that down to about 15 when your 7000rpm'in every gear. lol

  • depends if ur talkin about a phase 1 vtr 90 bhp or a phase 2 vtr 100 bhp. anyways, this zs only had a pipercross panel filter and beat a lot of cars that were supposed to be quicker by the book

  • Fords are always a little reserved on their quoted figures, 0-60 is supposedly 10.1s but you can get around 9.5 without too much effort and a top end is 114 quoted but you can get 120mph no sweat.

  • vtr has a higher gear range but i bet the zetec s can get there quicker 16v power ;)

  • not strictly true as 8v engines have alot more torque than 16v, top end a 16v will always cum out on top of it's 8v counterpart, but not off the line :)

  • id say the saxo would slighly beat the fiesta if you had a good driver who could change gears quick enough. saxo's are more fun to drive but alot less safe id rather the fiesta feels safer and better built all u gotta do is chip it and its level peggins with a vtr :)

  • but here's the fing you wont level peg with a vts haha

  • the 0-60 on the vtr and zetec s is exactly the same its the saxo that has a higher top speed of 3mph

  • i have owned a mk2 saxo vtr and now i own a zetec-s. I honestly dont think there is much in it performance wise but im much happier now i own my zetec-s, it is less chavvy and i feel more respectable driving it :)

  • its something like 1592cc/ 1.6 litr/ 16 valve mate

  • It´s a 1.250 cc ?

  • more than zs. yet zs has matched 106 gti up to 120ish. lol 120 bhp 106 gti vs zetec s

  • why not compare it to 16v saxo. em coz it has 120 bhp wihich is more. its not about valves it abouyt power output and weight

  • the power dropped off when it was started . ud have to clean the back window where the flies have had flown into while it was driving

  • My first and only time in the back of a Saxo VTR was whilst some lass was feeling my knob, Now this kinda explains it all really, The young driver in the front(i dident know him he was giving us a lift back from town trying to pull the other girl that was with us)was shouting LOOK! im doing a ton 10! the engine was screaming its balls off and it wasent very comfortable for me either as you could probably tell. This is what happens in most VTR'S im sure. Im 24 now and feel the ZS is more grown up

  • 110 and the engine was screaming, must hav been a mk1 non silver top, i had mine sitting at 125 at around 5500rpm an that was standard,and any zetec S that i kno of, is not as torquey as a vtr, and another thing, look at it this way, your comparing a 1.6 16v woth a 1.6 8v, why not compare it with the 16v saxo, thats right, its no comparessin, n if ur goin to say i dnt kno shit about ford,fords suck, at least they circled the problem,n yes, i work for ford, n it sucks too..

  • and also, go talk about your mk 1 cammed saxo somehwere else, like to the 12 year old girls on your council estate, cause you dont impress anyone here. as mentioned below, the fact that its cammed and your comparing it to a stock fiesta says it all. i have zetec s' and they would piss all over your cammed bag of shite, and they will still be able to drive home after, they wont be in peices on the floor beause of two reasons: they ae french tin cans, and the driver is a complete cock.

  • hahaha bravo!(applause)

  • jonny if you knew anything about driving you would know: in order to get best aceleration you change gear just above the power band (the zs powerband is approx 6550) this way as the revs drop when you engage the clutch, by the time you stick the throttle back open the evs will just be falling bak into the powerband rather than having to clime from below. hence why camhadcore is changing over 6550 rpm. hes obviously a clued up driver. and on the contrary; your not

  • if you watch the vidoe....doesnt once hit the limiter...changes just before it hits

  • the power and torque drops off at just over 6k anyway!

  • been in zs and beat gsi corsa. wasn't an sri. it was a 1.6 gsi. fact. yes but old cars can lose some power too.

  • a phase 2 vtr i raced my old gsi corsa against my vtr and my gsi was slightly faster and u talk bollox sayin ive beaten loads of gsi s there arent many on the road now u mite have beaten an sri which is a 1.4 gsi corsa s r 109 bhp standard go on google type in letstorquebhp and it gives u stats on the three cars and that website doesnt lie

  • so why u buy a vtr then? theres heaps of gsi's on the road. i ,knoqw u got the 1.4 and 1.6 so there. i aint speakin bawbags anyway i have a 2 litre turbo now that would shit over ur vtr in reverse.

  • wat the fuck do u know camhardcore anyone can hit the gears to redline face it zetecs are shit performing cars i have a saxo vtr and never been beaten by a zs yet and my old corsa gsi used to beat them

  • aye ok...em the fact that i owned one? i beat corsa gsi's all the time, were no match. u have a vtr phase 1 or 2? il admit the vtr phase 2 do better cus they have an extra 10 bhp but ive never bean beaten by one im affraid. Or wait........ you must be an amazing driver? Bet u can beat scoobys and everything? You sure there actaully racing and not just cruising past?

  • gear changes and changing too low rpm can make you shit in a straight line

  • how can you be a crap driver in a straight line fact is the fiesta zetec s performance is absolute wank

  • em cus he dosnt understand what the rev limiter is for and must change gears like a grandma!

  • ur an idiot 'camhardcore'. max power runs out before the rev limiter kicks in on most cars. hitin the limiter in everygear isnt the way to do it. knowing when to change gear before u start losing power is. zetec s's are shite i piss over them in my cammed mk1 vtr all the time.

  • here we go again. "Yes i must be an idiot cus i don't know how to drive". I didnt say rev the car up to the redline in every gear so there. Wait ur cammed mk1, exact ur modified vtr, not standard, why did u have to uprate the cams? could it not produce enough power for you in the first place to beat a zs!

  • Anyway i dont own this car now so i dont really care ok! Like i said before i now own a 2.0 turbo so go thrash ur french piece about till it runs out of steam for all i care. I will shit over u in reverse so hop on.

  • cammed mk1.....exactly ( cammed). anyway he meant chang just before the limiter hits. obviously you dont hit the limiter

  • as for the rev limiter i ment the guy might be changing bout 4000rpm instead of 6000-6500rpm depending when it stops pulling as hard. Im no idiot.

  • my m8 has a mk1 zetec s and his 0-60 time is about 10-11 sec ur talkin shit zs are slow and vtrs will beat a zs in a str8 line

  • well ur mate is obviously a crap driver haha

  • i agree. ive had a mk1 zs (totally standard) for 2 yrs and ive done 120 easy on a number of occasions - on the flat. it'll do some more but i just didnt want to push it too much, or get caught!

    Fair point that its probably not actually that much cos speedo's over estimate but they do on nearly all cars so its all relative.

    p.s. dont u just love the old vtr vs ZS debate! lol

  • mandude83 got it spot on. although my 0-60 time is slughtly faster becuase of induction and exhuast system (more hp gains)

    top speed ive had 120 easily on a straight (RAF cosford airfield) and it did appear i could go faster, but i was worried about the tyres blistering in the heat.

    agreed vts is faster, but look at the state of it, the fiesta has curves at least

  • Everyone on zsoc agrees the average 0-60 time for a standard mk 5 zs is around 9 and a half seconds, top speed varies, Last weekend I got mine to 130 mph on the clock but it was on a slight downhill and you also have to knock a few mph off as apparently at that speed the analogue speedo isent accurate. They are faster than a vtr in a straight line but the vts is quicker due to it having more horsepower, Handleing wise the zs is proven to be the best.

  • see this boy knows what hes on about.(mandude83) Yeah!

  • i agree

  • wot about 1.25 mk5s? some vids on here claiming 9/9.5/10 secs 0-60 for these 1.25 75HP bad bois?

  • because they are talking bollocks, probably more around the region of 12/13 seconds :/

  • Yep my Zetec S was about 9.5 standard, and got mine to 135mph downhill I had Satnav in the car too it was showing 129mph : ) Also I had a 1.25 and that was about 12.5 seconds as you sat :) those 3 seconds make all the difference though the Zetec S feels great!

  • dats a fast fiesta boi!!

  • I've just been in one of these. I'm 18stone and the driver is 14stone and without any mods and with me timing it on a stop watch. 0 - 60 in 6.74secs. I don't believe the factory standard crap. I own a rover 416i, factory standard. est 0 - 60 11s ive done it in 9 dead.

  • no offense mate but it will never do that to 60 with it being standard. even i know that and i had mine for a year.

  • it will never do it wiv them fat bastards full stop lol

  • Nice car

  • zetec s is actualy more like 115 bhp, lots of standard ones have been rr at 115 to 120 bhp as well, ford just lied i think

  • fiesta zetec s facts 102 bhp which is crap for a 1.6 0-60= 10.2 from fast car magazine

  • Yes it is standard, what would be the pont in lying? Just depends on the driver aswell though. I guess you under estimate the power of the ford im affraid, paperwork isnt everything you know. By the way its a phase 1 not the new ones you fool, you not tell by the dials? What car do you drive then if the zetec-s is so "crap"?

  • is that a 1.6 fiesta zetec s standard i dont think so they mite be 16v but they r ugly as f"ck they weigh a ton and poor performance considering zetec s r new a vtr saxo and a gsi corsa or nova wud blitz that

  • need to be sensible like 'ilikebeubz' and get a 1.4 beamer, lol

  • i loved my zetec s. imperial blue. hit wall bout 12 months ago and wrote it off. gutted. astra turbo bit of a dodgy choice tho. like all vauxhalls, bit plasticy, and not very good with lots of power. dunno how fella above used 30 quid in 2 months. i used to do that in a week, lol. got a clio 172 cup now. loadsa fun

  • You smashed it! hey well no offense but you just bought a french car lol- mistake! And its the mark 4 astra coupe version and it aint that plastic on the inside well... compared to the clio anyway its less, i was goping to buy a 172 cup but the inside put me off and wanted a bigger car.

  • french cars are a bit shitty. renaults best of bad bunch. 172 cup probly worse inside than other clio sports, but thats cos they stripped out to be lighter and quicker. my mate used to have coupe turbo, are pretty quick, but not necessarily a fun drive. clio is awesome, probly give yours a going over in straight line, but would destroy you round bends. you'd kill yourself trying to keep up

  • hmm don't know about that, depends on the driver aswell and how much balls he has. besides if it was a a straight the clio will only go to 134ish whilst the astra will do 150mph. yeah i know they were stripped down to save like 0.2 sec's to 60, didn't do much to be honest if you think about it still a nice car but i prefer the astra to be honest, easier to tune aswell with it being a turbo.

  • i did 133 on motorway in zetec s. in clio had race with a 2.2 honda prelude in sheff and did 143. so 134ish a bit under estimated. i test drove an astra gsi, and was pretty sharp in 2nd and 3rd, but just felt uncomfortable round bends. how long you had yours? thinkin bout upgradin mine now. lookin at an 02 plate m3, but we're talking 16k +. so dunno. i'd like a clio v6, but i've got a house now, so not particularly practical lol

  • yeah ive done about 130 in my zs aswell. ive had my coupe for about 3 months now. lol yup totally man well unless you want to take more than one person out in it with you at once. I am right that is only has two seats cus the engine is siting in the back?

  • yeah they're 2 seater. all back seatin area is the engine mount. fuckin ludicrous really for a tiny car. was also looking at evo 7's, but dunno, and alfa 147 gta but bout as reliable as all other alfa's. got 24 hr test drive in new leon cupra today, so gunna thrash that before handin it back. need to grow up really

  • haha they dnt even do that, zetec s top speed is only 114 ish!

  • 114ish, where were you going, and up what hill. Might have helped to take the cement bags out of the boot also! I get 122 out of a 1.25 Z standard on a straight (not on a hill). The ZS is good for at least 130.

  • what you got. a vtr lol

  • got vid of fezza on old mobile, i'll try find it. manual says top speed 117 too. was pretty impressive. car sounded like it wanted me to stop though

  • aye to bad its my car now dickhead, il kick ur astras ass

  • why don't you get a 1.25 instead then, would be even better for petrol if you don't drive it much.

  • i got the same car man i love it hasent let me down for 3 years

  • Yeah i never had any problems with it but i have passed it on to my bro and i know have a 2.0 turbo astra :) twice as quick as the zs but it is an awsome car, don't care what anyone says about it.

  • i wana get a bmw, 3 series standard 1.4 or 1.6 next

  • you do relise that you don't get a 1.4 bmw? and besides it would be slow as death compared to the fiesta because there tanks.

  • i sure i rember a 1.4 but anyways im never buying a car over 1.6 untill i have good reason like a family of 3 lol, u know the ford fiesta is seriously economical cos iv been putting £30 every 2 months in to mine i dont travel much but still thats killer.

  • yur losing power mate by letting the revs go past 6 thousand..cars are fast tho ent they :D

  • Great vid mate, the ZS is one of my favorite cars. And you might want some more petrol ;)

  • nice one mate!. Love the ZS.

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