Relax...This is training, or just a demo. These firefighters are learning as they do. No one is born with the skill and being critical does not prove how smart you are. I've seen the most critical guys screw it up plenty of times.
@firefightertom23 The truck contains 300 gallons of water, about 400 gallons of foam concentrate. Probbably 500 lbs of dry chemical extinguishing agent or 450 lbs of a clean agent such as halatron
To answer your question "How much water does that fire apparatus carry" That vehicle is probably carrying anywhere from 1500 to 3000 gallons of water. The foam tank now depending on the size of the water tank is roughly 240 to 440 gallons of foam. If your able to identify the manufacture of the vehicle which I tried doing and was not able to do so. Hope that helps.
let me know if your plane catches fire and the firefighters don't know what to do since they haden't practiced with foam. let me know if you made it or not
you could fly a boeing 747 in a perfect landing, but if there is a problem with the plane, you arent going to go out in midair and fix it.
accidents would happen.
its like a ship. they have a saftey drill in case the boat sink. if you didnt know what you were doing, you would be running around the boat with no way out.
@virginianboy1012 The jet fuel would burn to hot. the radient heat would burn a firefighter befor he could get close enough to use the hose unfortunetly. But if u put jet fuel in a truck is can fly, so i have learnt on family guy so theirs some fun!
Yes this does seem like a lot of pollution is here. Not many years ago they used Jet-A and various other discarded junk fuels. That was horrible , the pollution and not to comment on the enviromental nightmare to clean up the site afterward. I believe that the public deserves the best trained F.F. when you talk about 100, 200, 300 peoples lives on the line inside the aircraft.
The skin of an aircraft burns through from an exterior fuel fire in as little as 60 seconds (FAA). The large trucks knock down this fire to keep it from entering the aircraft and to provide an escape path for those trying to exit the aircraft.
This is liquid propane, it burns pretty clean. I got it ! lets not burn for training purposes and when you crash at an airport their will be no exxperienced fire fighters to pull your sorry ass out of the aircraft :D why did I comment on the pollution comment anyway. Sorry if I was rude, I just wonder which is more important...a small bit of pollution or saving peoples lives.
Ok, as it is described on the Info. of this video, This is not even training, they were just showing us. Yes, he is wasting water but they just want to show us. ok?
Because I think the pressure of the water/foam is made with the engine. When the water comes out the truck releases smoke meaning the engine is involved with the water pressure.
Elevate the Turret and sweep it side to side... good god... Try using AFFF in a rain drop effect. Appreciate the video, but not good Technique here. He wasted agent on the ground be fore he got there, and then he positioned the vehicle at an angle... Not gonna establish a Rescue Path if you run out of Agent!!
Absolutely.....But untill they change that rule about the use of live fossil fuel training we have to use propane and what they call training foam. Oh, did I say the enviromentalists hate real foam. The good news is you can roleplay and use strategies here a dozen times a day with fire where, with fossil fuel in a pool only gets you a few fires and a toxic mess for you and the EPA
In a perfect world we could use real foam and Jet-A or Avgas for training but, alas here we are stuck with this representation....call your congressman!
If you were on a crashing aircraft, would you want trained airport firefighters to put the fire out and pull you out of the fire.Fires outside the fuselage can burn through the skin of the aircraft in as little as 60 seconds. I like to think that wasted foam they trained with just saved a life, what price can you put on that.
This is a propane fed simulation of an aircraft down and on fire. The FAA requires all Fire fighters at certificated airports to train and get at least 1 live fire like this a year. If you're airport is unlucky enough to not have a regional trainer like this then you will probably have to travel to a facility like this and get a fire like this. Airport fire fighters spend hours in the classroom and on the fire ground training.
To the person down below.... Thats why we practice..so that we can be better. This person is practicing and probably he gets only one shot at this a year. Probably you only get one live fire a year to this magnitude. We should all learn from what you see here.
no, I think he did it in case there was fuel on the runway, so when the other planes past, they wouldn't leave a trail, and add more to the fire then there already was
WTF??? I've put out dozens of big fuel fires - some upwards of 10,000 gallons... we always fanned or swept the nozzle as we lobbed in AFFF ( or Lite Water) and it never took that long to knock down the fire. That rookie opened up with the turret way too soon and should have approached with the wind towards the nose. This is why we have training days.
@oberwapiti u know that the fire is continuosly fed an instructor has a shutoff switch and he can turn off the gas supply when he sees fit and that is when the fire starts to get knocked down for the most part
The way you extinguish these fires is to put a layer of foam down that cuts off the fuel from air.
If they aimed at the base it would tend to spread the flammable liquids increasing the size of the fire. Instead they're just lobbing the foam on top to minimize that spread.
It is also because they are tackling the fire nearest the fuselage first. ARFF services exist to save life, so the fire impinging on the fuselage in a large external fire is the key to preserving a surviveable environment inside the aircraft.
true mudnthundr! we are taught to get in range, cool the fuselage first, then clear all evacuation routes, then worry about surrounding fire. anything else is a waste of agent.
poor fire
mymsong 6 months ago
when I was in JFK and the plane I was in was taxing,I saw this model of a plane,but it was not on fire
ijjpfsx17 7 months ago
0:00 Yep. The key is to start spraying 20m away from the fire directly towards the ground. Lol.
razinblazer 8 months ago
I can't imagine what the passengers on airplanes at the airport thought had happened!!!
azikial5 10 months ago 9
@azikial5 They inform the ATC but other than that none else knew.
sebasitsme 10 months ago
@sebasitsme ATC as in Air Training Corps?
MrCoolGuy2303 7 months ago
@MrCoolGuy2303 NO, Its Air Traffic Control. Thanks for commenting!
sebasitsme 7 months ago 5
@firefightertom23
couple of tones of water + special foam to mix
Lackyserbia 10 months ago
OH MY GOD WHAT HAPPENED????????? i feel sorry for that downed plane's passengers. !!!!!!!!!! R.I.P.
aolyahoo 11 months ago
@aolyahoo
I do believe it was a training...
mitebg 11 months ago
@firefightertom23 also, the foam they use sucks out the oxygen in the air, thats why they can only use it when all the people get out
scotfreak 1 year ago
Relax...This is training, or just a demo. These firefighters are learning as they do. No one is born with the skill and being critical does not prove how smart you are. I've seen the most critical guys screw it up plenty of times.
47arff 1 year ago
Any closer that truck gets they might as well call in more
skipflippy 1 year ago
wasted foam at the start..way too soon
shawingz369 1 year ago
oops. sorry , I ment to say 3000 gallons of water
47arff 1 year ago
@firefightertom23 The truck contains 300 gallons of water, about 400 gallons of foam concentrate. Probbably 500 lbs of dry chemical extinguishing agent or 450 lbs of a clean agent such as halatron
47arff 1 year ago
this e one got 2 water canons one on the front one on the roof
MrLegofilmpje 1 year ago
he has a watertank of 13,500 liters
Olegelbensande 1 year ago
Looks Like GTA Ballad of gay tony
RiWo71097 1 year ago
To answer your question "How much water does that fire apparatus carry" That vehicle is probably carrying anywhere from 1500 to 3000 gallons of water. The foam tank now depending on the size of the water tank is roughly 240 to 440 gallons of foam. If your able to identify the manufacture of the vehicle which I tried doing and was not able to do so. Hope that helps.
Patches459 1 year ago
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peteg913 1 year ago
They are not going to use foam concentrate everytime they do a burn.
devildoc225 1 year ago
@firefightertom23 3000 gals and no foam
MNFDSLKF 1 year ago
holy shit, did anyone die?
jazzythegreatest 1 year ago
They do use foam. They are The Port Authority of NY and NJ fire trucks. That may help on your research.
sebasitsme 1 year ago 9
it was not a fire pratice u see closely theres a plane
tjshijie 2 years ago
Yeah, its a "Test PPlane" to Simulate a fire in a real airliner ;)
FirstFlusiFlyer 2 years ago 2
@tjshijie if you look closely you can see that you have no penis
umahuma4 1 year ago
@umahuma4 Lol? why say that??? U Insulting me????
tjshijie 1 year ago
it would be fair to say that if that was real that the blane would be fucked, i would just do asset protection
wallzac13 2 years ago
cool........................
miar2006 2 years ago
you guys sound like bunch of 12 yr olds. BTW the source of the fire is the tons of jet fuel.
gingersmalls 2 years ago
YEAH BUT I am i engineer in the navy so i wont make the ship sink
rockandroll626 2 years ago
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rockandroll626 2 years ago
what a waste of foam
rockandroll626 2 years ago
let me know if your plane catches fire and the firefighters don't know what to do since they haden't practiced with foam. let me know if you made it or not
airplanebuilderman 2 years ago 4
ok soz man my plane wont catch fire because i can fly very well i have a cessna
rockandroll626 2 years ago
you could fly a boeing 747 in a perfect landing, but if there is a problem with the plane, you arent going to go out in midair and fix it.
accidents would happen.
its like a ship. they have a saftey drill in case the boat sink. if you didnt know what you were doing, you would be running around the boat with no way out.
RunTheRockers 2 years ago
i bet jesus could fix it midair while flying the plane at the same time.
boen747 2 years ago
jesus is not real, sorry.
mepizzasmangled 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
my dad is the commanding officer for the port authority over there. makes $250000 a year plus investments and my moms job. so about $350000 total.
BMGgiantsfan 2 years ago
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47arff 2 years ago
so when do the firefighters go in
virginianboy1012 2 years ago 8
they did not
sebasitsme 2 years ago 5
@virginianboy1012 The jet fuel would burn to hot. the radient heat would burn a firefighter befor he could get close enough to use the hose unfortunetly. But if u put jet fuel in a truck is can fly, so i have learnt on family guy so theirs some fun!
angodeath 1 year ago
oh my god,shoot the fuselage first!!! whats the foam tender doing? playing ard wit water?
macnazri 2 years ago
you would first estinguish the source of the fire, mainly the engines, wings or cockpit, then distinguish the rest.
if you dont, then if you distinguish the fuselage, the fire would spread to there again and there isnt a point.
RunTheRockers 2 years ago 2
Yes this does seem like a lot of pollution is here. Not many years ago they used Jet-A and various other discarded junk fuels. That was horrible , the pollution and not to comment on the enviromental nightmare to clean up the site afterward. I believe that the public deserves the best trained F.F. when you talk about 100, 200, 300 peoples lives on the line inside the aircraft.
47arff 2 years ago
The skin of an aircraft burns through from an exterior fuel fire in as little as 60 seconds (FAA). The large trucks knock down this fire to keep it from entering the aircraft and to provide an escape path for those trying to exit the aircraft.
47arff 2 years ago
This is liquid propane, it burns pretty clean. I got it ! lets not burn for training purposes and when you crash at an airport their will be no exxperienced fire fighters to pull your sorry ass out of the aircraft :D why did I comment on the pollution comment anyway. Sorry if I was rude, I just wonder which is more important...a small bit of pollution or saving peoples lives.
47arff 2 years ago
nice one, but only one fire truck ???
i whold be well done by now if i was on that plane !
tommym43 2 years ago
Go NY/NJ PAPD! Nice video!
DMfilmproduction 2 years ago
Isnt this causing pollution?
Jamalje 2 years ago
Its some flamable gas which comes out to burn from the ground. I dont know if it pollutes the environment.
sebasitsme 2 years ago
Fossil fuels?
Jamalje 2 years ago
Fuel is not a gas and I dont know which gas. It can be Methane gas
sebasitsme 2 years ago
You guys were wearing masks?
Jamalje 2 years ago
@sebasitsme it is propane my dad company does the machines im there all the time
taylorjacquise 1 year ago
Eh, a single tender?
KooKas2oo8 2 years ago
Ok, as it is described on the Info. of this video, This is not even training, they were just showing us. Yes, he is wasting water but they just want to show us. ok?
sebasitsme 3 years ago
but how come the engine went louder and quieter???
rockandroll626 3 years ago
Because I think the pressure of the water/foam is made with the engine. When the water comes out the truck releases smoke meaning the engine is involved with the water pressure.
sebasitsme 3 years ago
ok thanks
rockandroll626 3 years ago
Elevate the Turret and sweep it side to side... good god... Try using AFFF in a rain drop effect. Appreciate the video, but not good Technique here. He wasted agent on the ground be fore he got there, and then he positioned the vehicle at an angle... Not gonna establish a Rescue Path if you run out of Agent!!
tomlittlepage 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
takeing to long to put the flames ou
t if that was real every1 will be dead
luke123101 3 years ago
ya but thats 1 truck bro u would have like 6 of them!!
jd5424 3 years ago
what a waste of foam
rockandroll626 3 years ago
Then how the fuck are they going to learn a proper way that's really close to the real thing?
PolxenTwo 3 years ago
hi again soz m8
rockandroll626 3 years ago
Sorry back then I was so pissed off at something and I was growling at everything
PolxenTwo 3 years ago
It is just smart to use real foam concentrate. The guys get to see how the agent works with different application patters.
You find out what the limitations are and you cant do that without using the real stuff.
toxickavenger 3 years ago 4
Absolutely.....But untill they change that rule about the use of live fossil fuel training we have to use propane and what they call training foam. Oh, did I say the enviromentalists hate real foam. The good news is you can roleplay and use strategies here a dozen times a day with fire where, with fossil fuel in a pool only gets you a few fires and a toxic mess for you and the EPA
47arff 3 years ago
In a perfect world we could use real foam and Jet-A or Avgas for training but, alas here we are stuck with this representation....call your congressman!
47arff 3 years ago
If you were on a crashing aircraft, would you want trained airport firefighters to put the fire out and pull you out of the fire.Fires outside the fuselage can burn through the skin of the aircraft in as little as 60 seconds. I like to think that wasted foam they trained with just saved a life, what price can you put on that.
47arff 3 years ago
People living near the airport probably see the smoke and are thinking what the hell happened.
Slav103 3 years ago
wat a lot of foam wasted
rockandroll626 3 years ago
do they set that fire on purpose just for a drill!?! did they do that fire just for a drill!?! did it have to be a real fire???
JustADisneyFan1121 3 years ago
read the desciption next time
DangerofDeath2 3 years ago
oh, sorry, I guess i was a bit busy when I watched this video
JustADisneyFan1121 3 years ago
try learning to read the title/description next time...
shadddey5 3 years ago
This is a propane fed simulation of an aircraft down and on fire. The FAA requires all Fire fighters at certificated airports to train and get at least 1 live fire like this a year. If you're airport is unlucky enough to not have a regional trainer like this then you will probably have to travel to a facility like this and get a fire like this. Airport fire fighters spend hours in the classroom and on the fire ground training.
47arff 3 years ago
needs a nozzle on top
rockandroll626 3 years ago
To the person down below.... Thats why we practice..so that we can be better. This person is practicing and probably he gets only one shot at this a year. Probably you only get one live fire a year to this magnitude. We should all learn from what you see here.
47arff 3 years ago
how can u have a "fake fire"? theres a lot of smoke goin up, thats probably real lol
steeeven1 3 years ago
Its a practice
sebasitsme 3 years ago
how come it comes out of engine
rockandroll626 3 years ago
What comes out of the engine?
sebasitsme 3 years ago
That was very sexy
omnidroidv11 3 years ago
that person in the engine was shit . :L he opened the turret way to early .
rh7243 3 years ago
no, I think he did it in case there was fuel on the runway, so when the other planes past, they wouldn't leave a trail, and add more to the fire then there already was
wheelingdude12 3 years ago
WTF??? I've put out dozens of big fuel fires - some upwards of 10,000 gallons... we always fanned or swept the nozzle as we lobbed in AFFF ( or Lite Water) and it never took that long to knock down the fire. That rookie opened up with the turret way too soon and should have approached with the wind towards the nose. This is why we have training days.
oberwapiti 3 years ago 12
woah u do this stuff for a living?
liv4deth95 3 years ago
No, it was a class trip.
sebasitsme 3 years ago
A school trip ? if thats the case thats kickass...
hellzone100 3 years ago
@oberwapiti u know that the fire is continuosly fed an instructor has a shutoff switch and he can turn off the gas supply when he sees fit and that is when the fire starts to get knocked down for the most part
taylorjacquise 1 year ago
@oberwapiti So let me get this straight. You approach an incident with the wind on your nose? :-S
dirtdart666 11 months ago
I with ya,
EllisCreative 7 months ago
It almost looks like they aren't using lite water. It usually cuts right into the fire and layers over the spill rapidly.
Looks like this fire was pressurized some way.
twouy 4 years ago 4
yea I think it was foam that sprayed
wheelingdude12 3 years ago
y did they spray at the top of the fire?
the should have sprayed at the floor of the fire so it goes out easyer
cvax201 4 years ago 2
The way you extinguish these fires is to put a layer of foam down that cuts off the fuel from air.
If they aimed at the base it would tend to spread the flammable liquids increasing the size of the fire. Instead they're just lobbing the foam on top to minimize that spread.
FireFeed 4 years ago 14
It is also because they are tackling the fire nearest the fuselage first. ARFF services exist to save life, so the fire impinging on the fuselage in a large external fire is the key to preserving a surviveable environment inside the aircraft.
lowcatjo 4 years ago 2
pero ese Camion no da solo para ese incendio.
duro mucho para apagarlo.
Manu2455 4 years ago
nice AFR Vido
tdadp 4 years ago 2
Yeah, if this was a training...there should be more than 1 firetruck. And they are wasting too much foam as they approach the fire..
homestopper 4 years ago 4
Its a fake metal airplane.
sebasitsme 4 years ago
what did they put on fire
pega57 4 years ago
... agreed.
wildman51 4 years ago
This wasn't really training they were just showing us. The real training goes with more trucks and fire mens outside and everything.
sebasitsme 4 years ago
true mudnthundr! we are taught to get in range, cool the fuselage first, then clear all evacuation routes, then worry about surrounding fire. anything else is a waste of agent.
pointsur 4 years ago
Man, he goes really close!
bum291 4 years ago
Nothing like wasting alot of product before your even in range of the fire!
mudnthundr 5 years ago
no kidding. 3000 gals goes fast if there was a crash like that! 15 second bursts
Staubb00 4 years ago
at 36 secs, it looks like the fore engine is on fire !! LOL
BBCHull 5 years ago