tropical storm in a 44 Lagoon cat sailboat svlazzarone.com

[KallyJones]

Do you feel there are any safety(pitchpole) issues with sailing a cat in rough weather vs. a monohull? I ask b/c I'm shopping for a bigger boat and am trying to decide what to buy next. At some point I'll retire and that next boat will be the one I take off on so I'm trying to get as much input as possible. Thank you.

[svlazzarone]

@KallyJones the cat is always more stable the a mono hull.

[salgiron]

In a storm, the fatty there, could not even afford to keep his baseball cap on, let alone make a comment from three meters distance.. No rain nor high seas. I guess when you are an idiot on a 44, you can post stupid crap pretending it is an adventure. I want to see them on the straight of Magallan. Crossing tierra de fuego...

[plbuster]

@salgiron I haven't heard of too many multi-hulls taking on the Capes, storm or no.....the first solo round the world ended badly for the multihulls....(got beat by an old teak monohull). I hear they are real stable...either upside down or otherwise....

[CaptainMateo]

tropical calm, nothing more

[FreddyFrogger]

Tropical Storm? This is no storm. The seas in that kind of wind would be not much above 6 to 7 feet even taking the height of eye into consideration. This may be the beginning of a gale but it's not a storm. Storm conditions would be with sustained winds of over 50 knots and the seas would be running much higher - 20 feet or more after about 4 to 5 hours. I've been in storm conditions and believe me you can't even hear yourself speak let alone hear someone else. No, this is no storm.

[SkyyCaptainn]

Only 9 knots at 20+ knot wind. Something is wrong with your rig probably, a cat should be going at ~15 knots in conditons like this.

[FreddyFrogger]

@SkyyCaptainn I agree. In the other hand it is a Lagoon which are notoriously slow sailers. Most cats should do better than half wind speed irrespective of waterline. In 30 knots of wind I would see at least 14 knots in a 40 foot cat.

[BixigaSailing]

What about bridgedeck clearance sailing this conditions? The dolphin striker works? I'm considering a L450.

[PdxSailor1]

what do you mean you flew a hull? did a hull really lift out of the water in those conditions?

[svlazzarone]

@PdxSailor1 No we did not get a hull out of the water, but Vic thought it was close!

[NigelLoller]

Ha Ha ...thats not a storm and if you think thats a big sea just type big sea on You Tube search...By the way, normal to strong trades in the Indian Ocean give 3 to 5 metre waves for weeks at a time...you would be running with just a staysail in 30 to 38 knts of wind app. (well over 40 T)

[ZipSnipe]

I would call that more like 2-4 ft seas

[svlazzarone]

@ZipSnipe when you take into account that the cat is 26' wide with 5' free board and the camera lens is at least 12' above the waterline it makes the seas look not so bad on film.

[carlosvg1986]

panamaawww?

[svlazzarone]

check out my new vidieo, crossing the gulf stream in Lazzarone and crossing the gulf stream in Magnitude 1 &2. Magnitude is my spare boat.

[Dash8100300]

I'm full of envy. Thanks for sharing the video.

[TheCannonofMohammed]

Sweet.

[flyingfishsurf]

looks like good solid NE tradewinds to me.

[5FishBoy5]

haha I've sailed lasers in 22-27 knots, def not a tropical storm

[bbiberg]

You should be doing 12-15 knots in these conditions if you had a lighter cat. The Lagoons are just too heavy. And I would have put in a reef : heavy boat + large waves + full sails = lots of pressure and strain on your rig

[tiborgbalogh]

I don't want to sound like a smart-ass know it all but I think from the sailing videos that I been studying because I have no boat or sailing experience yet, I think all of these peoples You-tube storm videos are wrong, their sail configurations are wrong and risk capsizing, viewers may imitate them, all of the videos Iv seen have their head-sail and main-sail up, when they should only run on a reefed main sail ONLY and depending on the speed of the wind reef that main-sail more and more...

[Aurmax70]

So Go to the sea and do your way...

[rcw2010]

yeah, well these dudes aren't in any excessively harsh conditions. 22-27 knots doesn't require any serious reefing and they aren't in any danger of capsizing.

[Superpickle1st22nd]

and the Clue is ??? "I have no boat or sailing experience " LOL..LOL...

[uuuuuglymark]

@tiborgbalogh youre an idiot.. no expereince yet you will tell these people they are wrong?!

[RUSSSELLLLL]

cool video

[lughcious]

Only 9 knots in ideal conditions?

Do you have three bladed wheels?

[airborne373]

Hello, great video thank you.

What is your opinion of a Cat in weather compared to a mono hull? Would you feel comfortable with a 40 ish cat in the Pacific?

I love the advantages a cat brings (she looked to be cutting through the waves with ease in the video) but what is your opinion about stability/safety in heavy weather.

My experience is with small boats on lakes. Hobie 16 etc.

[matthewm0311]

Do you liveaboard?

[svlazzarone]

Yes we do liveaboard! We also do private day sail charters in palm beach FL.

[captainbirch]

Loved it! Nice video.

[ehrlichhe]

looks good!! no reefs in 25 knots of wind, were u racing or something.

[starship2ok]

thanks for posting, we hava a 42 manta and hope to see you out there!

[conspiracy777]

I've been on Lake Michigan in worse conditions than that. But just the same, I think I would be nervous the whole time that some freak wind or wave would flip the dang thing.

They ride real nice right up until they flip! lol ..

[akmuo]

6-10 foot waves?!

 don;t think so...

hey this kind of boat starts moving at 20 kts, right. looks like a good time

[svlazzarone]

I had to wait til the sea and wind subsided a bit before I could get the video. What you dont understand is the lense is 12' above the waterline and the beam on Lazzarone is 26' wide

[malanga13]

you guys are very relaxed. how do you know when you have reached the point of no return with the wind, i mean where the danger of trouble begins? I've sailed in up to 47' but never in a cat and somehow I get the impression that it will be easy to fly a hull and then capsize at that speed.

[svlazzarone]

Yes we are relaxed! We had been sailing for two days already and the wind and sea had subsided to the point that I could get the video. The Lazzarone is a very large and heavy boat 40K Lb.'s I truely belive that the rig would fail before she would fly a hull. The video was taken from the flybride and the lens was about 12' off the water line. Just to give you a reference the beam is 26'.

[stewart135]

22-27 knots isn't even a gale. No reefs but on occasion flying a hull. Tropical "storm" this isn't. It is a good sail, a bit over canvased, nothing more.

[svlazzarone]

The wind and sea had just subsided to where I could take the video. I shot the video from the flybridge and the lens was about 12' off the water line. I realy don't think that we could fly a hull. This is a very large boat "26' beam". and 40,000 Lbs. The wind just before this video was 35 knots for 2 days, we had left Cancun and were aproching the dry Tortugas when I shot the video.

[5FishBoy5]

@stewart135 knowing most of those cats, probably undercanvased if anything

[aurumvore]

Seems like fun, but if I was to do this, then I will need to sail with my instructor next to me.