For anyone that's interested, it's Polyethylene Naphthalate, or ordinary polyethylene that's been molecularly aligned by forcing it through a high pressure sieve, after which the fibers are cross-plied like papyrus paper multiple times into these nifty products - there's a lot more to it then that, but in basic terms..
@REDNAK47 I spoke with the owner today and I don't know. I told him there are tons of civies with fistfuls of cash ready to throw it at a good armor company.
@TheHossUSMC And that's my concern. When you asked them if they were selling to us civies they seemed uncertain and stuttered (in the end of the vid). I HOPE they end up letting us buy their armor (I know I will the first day it's released), but the fact that they "weren't sure" if they would sell to the civilian market makes me feel skeptical.
What level of protection do they offer, against what and at what range? What is the cost estimate per plate and for a carrier if a special carrier is required?
On a scale of 1-10 where would you rate having armor for most of us not doing the boarder stuff or similar operations? Of coarse if I had the money id get some but should we be considering plate armor over that 5th gun we're probably gonna get but really dont need.
I have something very similar in my gear. I used to work for a defense company and got some cool stuff from it. If you have never seen it do a search for one way bulletproof glass and look at the history channel one from Labock Technologies we made some very awesome stuff.
I think i saw a vid of the Marine Corps testing dynema plates. They fired like six or seven mags of 5.56 into a plate, like 200 rounds before the plate was finally defeated.
Im courious about the cost to. I have a company letter that should appease most sellers of body armor. However i have to pay for it. There is a company in isreal called ZFI that sells dyneema plates on ebay. I just find it irritating when you have company showing off their stuff but wont discuss price.
I use to work for a company up in Ohio that made ballistic resistant materials, the military being our biggest contract. I cut the dyneema for panels to mount underneath the striker vehicles to help stop fragments from blowing through the undercarriage. Dyneema is good stuff man.
Some states will not let a none LEO,Mil, or some type of Security with proof have any type of body armor. And also some states it's a felony to have both a firearm and armor in the same area
IE: a vehicle. I know in CA they passed a law after 2 guys robbed Bank of America in North Hollywood.
@DSOXBLADE The company I worked for up in Ohio made dragon skin at one point, they discontinued them before I started working there though. But in the break-room they had a letter posted stating they were discontinued due to not meeting shelf life requirements.
@DSOXBLADE The Army said the epoxy holding the scales in place was failing in hot temperature and that they would slide out of place creating large gaps in the armor. At least that's what I've read. Also all that ceramic was too heavy.
@ArtisanTony I dunno. US palm offered their plates to civilians right out of the gate. There is a huge market for plates right now that US Palm has cornered because manufacturers won't offer them to civvies.
@LivingHistorySchool the guy at the booth said he didn't know much about them plates. It was the last day and the show was almost over. He was actually there to pack the stuff up I think.
For anyone that's interested, it's Polyethylene Naphthalate, or ordinary polyethylene that's been molecularly aligned by forcing it through a high pressure sieve, after which the fibers are cross-plied like papyrus paper multiple times into these nifty products - there's a lot more to it then that, but in basic terms..
Veldtian1 1 month ago
I bet you they will end up being like the other asshole 'armor' companies who ONLY sell to MIL/LEO.
REDNAK47 1 month ago
@REDNAK47 I spoke with the owner today and I don't know. I told him there are tons of civies with fistfuls of cash ready to throw it at a good armor company.
TheHossUSMC 1 month ago
@TheHossUSMC And that's my concern. When you asked them if they were selling to us civies they seemed uncertain and stuttered (in the end of the vid). I HOPE they end up letting us buy their armor (I know I will the first day it's released), but the fact that they "weren't sure" if they would sell to the civilian market makes me feel skeptical.
REDNAK47 1 month ago
I want them!
satyrpain 1 month ago
What level of protection do they offer, against what and at what range? What is the cost estimate per plate and for a carrier if a special carrier is required?
Arelak 1 month ago
@Arelak didn't you watch the video? He said it was still in the NIJ approval process.
TheHossUSMC 1 month ago
On a scale of 1-10 where would you rate having armor for most of us not doing the boarder stuff or similar operations? Of coarse if I had the money id get some but should we be considering plate armor over that 5th gun we're probably gonna get but really dont need.
TheTactical6string 1 month ago
@TheTactical6string 5
TheHossUSMC 1 month ago
@TheHossUSMC Cool, 5th gun for me this year then.
TheTactical6string 1 month ago
Your interview is more informative than their website
redtony58 1 month ago
beautiful
rqm420 1 month ago
I'd like to do some tests.
robbie574 1 month ago
@robbie574 me too, hopefully they send me some.
TheHossUSMC 1 month ago
I have something very similar in my gear. I used to work for a defense company and got some cool stuff from it. If you have never seen it do a search for one way bulletproof glass and look at the history channel one from Labock Technologies we made some very awesome stuff.
SchuboxProductions 1 month ago
I think i saw a vid of the Marine Corps testing dynema plates. They fired like six or seven mags of 5.56 into a plate, like 200 rounds before the plate was finally defeated.
556DOS45 1 month ago
Very interesting . . . buoyancy and the weight factor will be a game changer.
USNERDOC 1 month ago
I love that they are not only lightweight, but float! I need some now!!
Hiluxtaco 1 month ago
Im courious about the cost to. I have a company letter that should appease most sellers of body armor. However i have to pay for it. There is a company in isreal called ZFI that sells dyneema plates on ebay. I just find it irritating when you have company showing off their stuff but wont discuss price.
homunculis99 1 month ago
I use to work for a company up in Ohio that made ballistic resistant materials, the military being our biggest contract. I cut the dyneema for panels to mount underneath the striker vehicles to help stop fragments from blowing through the undercarriage. Dyneema is good stuff man.
CentralFloridaBoy 1 month ago
What was on the back? LOL... I gotta know now :D
KiloSierraAlpha 1 month ago
@KiloSierraAlpha it just looked like woven material.
TheHossUSMC 1 month ago
@TheHossUSMC Thanks bro.
KiloSierraAlpha 1 month ago
Some states will not let a none LEO,Mil, or some type of Security with proof have any type of body armor. And also some states it's a felony to have both a firearm and armor in the same area
IE: a vehicle. I know in CA they passed a law after 2 guys robbed Bank of America in North Hollywood.
UStacticalmedic36 1 month ago
You sounded pretty excited about these brother. Like a kid in a candy shop, or me in a candy shop. ha ha be safe
safetyfirstshooter 1 month ago
the marine corps needs these life jacket + body armor = perfect
P226nut 1 month ago
I don't have a set, but from what I've seen, Dyneema looks to be the way to go for light weight plates. Who sells these to civis?
YokoWenis 1 month ago
Awesome--I can not believe how light they are--I want. Did you ask what they cost?
MrM2hb 1 month ago
@MrM2hb I don't care what they cost, they are worth more than their weight in gold LOL.
TheHossUSMC 1 month ago
If I was anywhere near that unhelpful to a prospective buyer my boss would kill me. Seems like a cool product though.
QuattroStig 1 month ago
What I wan't to know is. What happened to dragon skin? That stuff looked like it could be placed on a Juggernaut suit.
DSOXBLADE 1 month ago
@DSOXBLADE I think dragon skin was ruled unreliable in hot and cold conditions, but IDK for sure.
TheHossUSMC 1 month ago
@TheHossUSMC Interesting. Thanks for the reply.
DSOXBLADE 1 month ago
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@DSOXBLADE The company I worked for up in Ohio made dragon skin at one point, they discontinued them before I started working there though. But in the break-room they had a letter posted stating they were discontinued due to not meeting shelf life requirements.
CentralFloridaBoy 1 month ago
@DSOXBLADE The Army said the epoxy holding the scales in place was failing in hot temperature and that they would slide out of place creating large gaps in the armor. At least that's what I've read. Also all that ceramic was too heavy.
Vdubb 1 month ago
That will probably be something military and law enforcement get way before civilians wouldn't you think?
ArtisanTony 1 month ago
@ArtisanTony I dunno. US palm offered their plates to civilians right out of the gate. There is a huge market for plates right now that US Palm has cornered because manufacturers won't offer them to civvies.
TheHossUSMC 1 month ago
I like how your covering a variety of things. I wonder how well these really work at stopping rounds.
Mrcaffinebean 1 month ago
that looks interesting, the seller didn't seem very helpful, I bet you could make a car out of that.
LivingHistorySchool 1 month ago
@LivingHistorySchool the guy at the booth said he didn't know much about them plates. It was the last day and the show was almost over. He was actually there to pack the stuff up I think.
TheHossUSMC 1 month ago
Very cool stuff man. You have a bunch of stuff that others passed over.
bluev2srt 1 month ago
@bluev2srt That was kinda my goal. I have a ton more video that I have to post as well.
TheHossUSMC 1 month ago