I Don't want to be Human! BSG

[brokenportal]

I want to know all that stuff too, and really badly. I sum it all up in a list that I call, "Existences Big Picture Big 8 Categories and Standalone Opportunities" or the big 8, for short. Then to get it, I work as hard as I can to try to help the world help itself to make indefinite life extension a reality for as many of us who are alive today as possible.

[YoutublyricsOffial]

his speech and agent smith is the two best ever

[necessaryevil101]

they shouldn't have killed the calvin from caprica. he wanted peace :(

[SgtRum]

Brother Cavil: In all your travels, have you ever seen a star go supernova?

Ellen Tigh: No.

[SgtRum]

I would have only one question for the cylons...

Can Humans Become Cylons?

A: Yes

Command: Make It So!

A: No

Reply: Figure Out How To Make It So!

[ljoch88]

This is the best quote ever !

[Noctis411]

There's nothing philosophical about this, there is no underlying message or some deep truth. Cavil was a machine stuck in a humans body and he hated his makers for putting him in there.

[phoenixfaithC]

Wow, this was breathtaking.

[doctorw2]

those are my very same thoughts being human sucks bollocks!

[CenturionArsisis]

Esta se volvió la cita que representa toda mi vida!!!

[ANACONDA360]

He has shown that the models are not all programmed with the whole utopian concept of equality; love and God as the others - he openly goes against all three to follow his own goals that benefit himself.

[ANACONDA360]

However, he tends to perform this through acts connected with his negative emotions - removing his ability to sleep because he hated the concept.

[ANACONDA360]

I feel that of the seven (or eight) of the post-Cylon war humanoids, Number One was the most human. He lets his negative emotions control him (killing the Number Sevens) and thinks of himself as being far less than he is and seeks to better himself.

[ANACONDA360]

I feel that of the seven (or eight) of the post-Cylon war humanoids, Number One was the most human. He lets his negative emotions control him (killing the Number Sevens) and thinks of himself as being far less than he is and seeks to better himself, though tends to perform this through acts connected with his negative emotions - removing his ability to sleep because he hated the concept.

[Boromir26]

This speech is immensely philosophical!! It features some of the most fundamental problems of western secular philosophical though, which is actually not more than the textual reproduction of our intrinsic concerns. As a society inclined towards skepticism and exploration we have been far and wide hindered by the limited capacity our biological nature provides us it is therefore that we create ever more complex machines in the hope that they may reach where we can not.

[ec4370]

Brother Cavil is probably one of the most interesting antagonist I have ever seen!

Dean Stockwell did his role perfectly!!

[ALIENxenomorph100]

Damn, the last glimpse we ever get of Galactica.

This scene with the end of this song(/watch?v=XN7OgjHqnvM) just brings tears...

I frakking miss being on the ol' girl.

[VideoGamesInHD]

Just watched the film this scene topped it all off (after watching the show of course) and remembering the quote from the original scene was much better in the movie :)

[Zaharkl]

I almost cried when i heard this..

[magog1138]

The genocide of billions all because of the shallow vanity of one man. Of course, the 20th Century demonstrated that is all that it takes to dramatically change the course of human history, for better or for worse. Ironic that for Cavil, that is what made him more human in many respects. On the polar opposite, the end of the show demonstrated our ability to get past our pettiness and work together, but then again, all of this has happened before, and it will happen again... T_T

[DXVBHHTR]

of all the Cylons I wanted to kill HIm the most

[MrZingnigga]

did you have your head up your ass the entire time you were watching bsg? how is the only thing you got from it "tech is bad" (which by the way was never said or even implied)?

[dannyobo]

My favourite part of the movie, its so....comepelling

[d0nj03]

The original scene from S4E15 was more impressive and compelling. You can find it on Megavideo.

The fact that the only eminently rational, progressist and non-superstitious character in the series - model One - was painted as a villain only further proves how idiotic and upside-down the show's philosophy ended up being.

Cavil rules. Cavil should have been the central philosophical character of the show instead of that psychotic fraktard Gay-us.

[darthroden]

@d0nj03

Why don't you just come out and say it like the Tigh did...."Guias Fraking Baltar!"

[JulyForToday]

@d0nj03

It's neutral. It has no philosophy. It's an inkblot test (RDM referred to it as such). Baltar is portrayed as the anti-hero, and Cavil is shown as the anti-villian.

The show itself is a commentary on human nature, and frankly how *fracked* up we are, and that technology doesn't seem to be helping us with that. Who can say the machines aren't right and humans are a virus (matrix)? That Cavil is right to want humans dead? Especially if "God" is not all light and goodness (as is implied).

[d0nj03]

@JulyForToday "technology doesn't seem to be helping us with that"

ORLY now? What about the continuous reduction in the scope and intesity of human violence at the century scale? Undoubtedly it happened at the same time as our technology progressed, so what exactly is your evidence that the two are unrelated?

What's that you say, irrational technophobia? :) I know that's the only "argument" I got from BSG that "tech is bad". Plus that mystical crap about how "all this will happen again".

[darthroden]

@JulyForToday

As far as "God" goes in BSG, I believe that Baltar summed it all up "God isnt on any one side, its a force of nature"

[TheUltimateReaper2]

What is this? Hm wow I like this, its pretty cool, human, it is true that being human in our current world sucks, but that is only because no one is using their potential, making it very confusing... is it that everyone fails to be human, or simply that being human is the failure?

[mkPraetorian]

@TheUltimateReaper2 this is scene from TV Show.Best TV Drama.Guys what did this great season had on account Outer Limits and Carnival.This show is Battlestar Galactica.Try start with pilot movie.

[LionelMessi1337]

"I don't want to be human! I want to see gamma rays. I want to hear x-rays and I want to smell dark matter. Do you see the absurdity of what I am? I can't even express these things properly, because I have to conceptualize complex ideas in this stupid limiting spoken language. But I know I want to reach out with something other than these prehensile paws... and feel the solar wind of a supernova flowing over me. I'm a machine... And I could know much more."

[leolo74]

my favourite Battlestar moment and one of the best sci-fi scenes...

[yarealpoof]

God, I can't imagine being in his position. This single scene is enough to make me pity him, regardless of what he does in the rest of the series... He must feel utterly useless...like a hammer made of glass. A being whose true potential can NEVER be realized, whose purpose as he percieves it will never be fulfilled. Just a shadow of what he could be.

[darthroden]

@yarealpoof

Oh I know and that is the truly tragic part of it.

When he first told that speech to Ellen and saw the emotions Dean Stockwell did in the performance, my original thought was "He's totally insane!" But after watching it a few more times I came to see that he was just as you said, a shadow what he saw as his true potential. He wanted to be a machine...and in that regard the Final Five didn't do him justice.

[Tim733733]

Brilliantly written and acted.

[bushwhack69]

i cant stand the idea of being human, when there is so much more i could know and see and experience, i am trapped behind walls of flesh which i cannot escape, i want to..............with this pathetic human brain, i can hardly express what i want, not literally, i want to be more, i want to see the beauty of creation of the universe, i want to feel the divinity of the big bang, only when i die can i know these things, and i will be free of these mortal bonds

[Irrenmann]

What is pathetic about the human brain? We certainly don't know of any superior brains, or of any way you could conceivably experience anything without one.

[Dexter103Morgan]

@Irrenmann there are plenty of thing pathetic with the human brain. For example the fact that you think that not knowing of a brain that works better constitutes that there is nothing wrong with our current one.

[Irrenmann]

@Dexter103Morgan I didn't say there was nothing wrong with it; I asked what is "pathetic" about it. The fact that you can imagine some sort of super version hardly renders the human brain, the finest one we know of, "pathetic"—any more than the strongest man in the real world should have his strength considered "pathetic" because the fictional character of Superman exists. The mere fact that your brain is capable of imagining beyond its own limits is more impressive than pathetic, I'd say.

[StarbuckHysteria]

i think most of us can identify with Cavil because who doesn't wanna be more than human and experience the wonders of the universe first hand

[hauntedmoviehouse]

Powerful words indeed, and they echo the plight of ... and the lament ... of All Created Things (human and machine): Why, O Maker, are we made Aware ... only to have our Awareness so limited? Why is our individual Soul split away from and exiled away from the WHOLENESS of all things? It was a deeply sorrowful and dramatic scene to feel Cavil feel that exile and realize it as the core of his resentment against the humans. But it also revealed his ego and negativity. "Is not to be born, best?"

[darthroden]

@hauntedmoviehouse

The Final Five did him no favors. They had good intentions...ending the cycle. The way they did it though didn't work for all of their children they way they wanted....and the result was Cavils resentment and his anger at the humans for the way they treated the first Cylons and the holocaust of the Twelve Colonies that followed.

Once again, the road to hell is paved on good intentions.

[aeonbrit]

any chance if getting the audio off this?

[kalyptus]

pwnyoutube -> avidemux

[MrPatrick1980]

Gives me chills every time I hear it.

[rhatcher010]

Cavil is without a doubt one of the most fascinating villains on TV in years.

Dean Stockwell, I salute you...you sadistic Oedipal bastard toaster sonofabitch.

Gods, I miss this show.

[aJxxw]

@rhatcher010 i miss this show lots, when i watched it there was this awsome atmosphere, damn..that show frakkin rocked.

[HasAnyoneSeenMyPipe]

@rhatcher010  That makes 2 of us, 4 seasons was just never going to be enough. To be truthful, fucking bored of Caprica.

[L3zer]

I don't want to be human,I want to see gamarays,I want to hear xrays,I want to smell dark matter,I want to reach out with something other than these prehensile paws and feel solar wind of a supernova flowing over me.I'm a machine and I can know much more.

[knoxvilleguy2]

@L3zer

" I've..... seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. C - Beams glinting in the darkness of the Tannhauser Gate ". Brother Cavil's speech reminded me of Roy Batty's somewhat.

[helldars]

@knoxvilleguy2 This is not so surprising since both Ronald D. Moore and David Eick cited this movie as being one major inspiration for BSG. And remember, the term "Skinjob" originated in Blade Runner !

[knoxvilleguy2]

@helldarsYep. I know.

[helldars]

@knoxvilleguy2 Then, that's even better that way !

[knoxvilleguy2]

@helldars " He's..... Seen things ". " Time to die ". props to Roy Batty. Brother Cavil was like him.

[Lyreto]

"Do you see the absurdity of what I am? I can't even express these things properly because I have to..I have to conceptualize complex ideas in this stupid, limiting spoken language!"

[RapidCityJM]

No Caprica Cavil had it right, the Ones wanted to pampered and praised and made to feel as if they were the supreme creation of their parents, as if the whole universe was simply waiting for their arrival. Oddly human sentiment really, so many of us believe that we are God's special little creatures when in fact in the GRAND SCHEME of things we are little more a footnote.

[Beerbottles123]

well, Anders did say they treasured him. my mother always say, if spoil your children long enough, they will bound to grow up to no good.

[Feherjoe]

I agree with him...

In his position i would wish for the same.

Sometimes I do...

[L3zer]

sometimes I do too.

[darthroden]

@Feherjoe I can still remember vividly the first time I saw the episode where we heard John Cavil tell Helen Tigh that speech, and saw the emotional turmoil in his face, the anger and frustration. Then when Boomer asked her "Aren't you ashamed of what you did to him?"

My first thought was "My God, he's totally insane!" However after seeing the plan, and really processing it, now I understand Cavil more. He wasn't completely evil, just a discontent child.

[nikiwonoto]

@Feherjoe you are not alone...

[panerai]

I don't want to be human! I want to see gamma rays! I want to hear X-rays! And I want to - I want to smell dark matter!, I want to reach out with something other than these prehensile paws! And feel the wind of a supernova flowing over me! I'm a machine! And I can know much more!

[panerai]

Thanks a lot for the video!!!! the best scene in the whole show so thoughtful

[AngelusM0rtis]

Your very welcome!