how's this for a REAL source and a REAL story, go onto the daily telegraph put in on the toolbar on the right side of the website "US Marine Frank Wuterich faces three months in prison for role in Haditha massacre". What this US Marine did was kill 24 innocent unarmored men women and children. and will your there you can look at the story of the french soldiers that died due to the USMC
We've been in Helmand since 2004, watching you people blunder and blunder one offensive after another until redeploying the USN and USMC elements from OIF to OEF in 2010.
2006-2010 - 100 RM killed and around 330 wounded in the areas around Sangin....unable to fully pacify the area.
2010-11 5th US Marines arrive..undertake OP Khanjar - largest offensive in the history of the province, take back Musa Qala, Sangin, Marja and venture our farther into the valley on the Paki border.
That right there is more than any British unit did in 4 yrs after 300 KIA
To this day, US casualties are 2x lower in the province.
In the Solomons campaign we killed 80,000 Japs and sunk 50 of their ships while loosing only 10,000 men. In the Marianas the Japs lost 93,000 to our 9.500.
In the Volcano and Ryuku campaign the Japs lost 114,000 dead to our 19,000
We didnt need no atomb bomb to help us end the war. The war was over before those bombs were dropped. Anybody with a 10th grade social studies education knows how the cold war started in 1945.
No British unit was match for a Japanese unit during WW2...the Royal navy didnt even show its face in the Pacific.
The best adversaries we as Marines ever had was those who defeated the British in Malaya and Burma with pure ease.
During the Gilbert and Marshall Islands campaign we killed 17,000 Japanese...and only captured 141. Tough men...those Japs. For those 17,000, they bled the USMC of 1,800 men.
The Royal Marines never grew beyond 4 brigades during WW2...On D-Day, they only landed 2 infantry brigades...once army infantry had secured the beacheads. Of those two brigades only 1 saw action in Belgium and the Netherlands.
Making absolutely no impact on the war. St Nazaire was a propaganda coup.
The Brit and Can. troops lost more men at Caen in the summer of 1944, than we lost total in the Pacific.
Youre right for once. Youre completly right. How could I forget such a decisive detail. You see the Continental Marines raided those British wooden ships in pure daylight and burned them in British waters...they didnt skulk around sabotaging them in pitch dark of the night.
At Whitehaven in 1778, US Marines burned Whitehaven and sunk the entire British supply fleet in the harbor...as well as overruning the fort nearby
St Nazaire was the masterpiece of No. 2 commando a BA unit...not RMs..
Operation Frankton (aka Cockleshell heroes action) ended in 0 German vessels sunk...this was the royal marine action.
The USMs had absolutely no naval or air support on the Canal. They were left there on the island without armor, supplies, food, ammo and everything else to deal with the Japs. Japs lost 31,000 men. It was a strategic victory...unlike Malaya or Singapore
America had no difficulty against the Japanese. We had more difficulty fighting the Confederates during the 1860s than any foreign enemy.
We dropped the bombs to intimidate the USSR and initiate the cold war, Hirohito had already come out saying he was willing to surrender. The ending of the Pacific war had nothing to do with the atom bombs.
what the cockle shell heroes did, and I am well familiar with their story. What they did however, didnt change the strategic outcome of the war. What the 2nd US Marines did on Guadalcanal did change the tide of the war against the Japanese.
What the 5th and 6th US Marines did at Chateau Thierry and Bellau Wood did change the tide of WW1.
2nd US Marines was the only thing standing between the Japs and Australia...not a British unit in any way
In the same way...the entire British contingent in Iraq made no difference towards the victory...and in Afghanistan as well, the British are doing nothing but sitting in N. Helmand behind a barrier of US Marines in the center between Pakistan and Afghanistan. Take the British out of the picture entirely and nothing changes. You people simply dont contribute anything
You can completly take out the Royal Marines from any world war and no negative impact will be felt by the outcome of battles...if you take the US Marines out of the context...the Germans couldve taken Paris in 1918 and Australia wouldve falled to the Japs in 1942.
Royal Marines made no impact whatsoever...and neither did the British army...Regardless of training or elite status. It simply didnt matter.
hows this for proof of well trained and elites solders and what they can do, look up The Cockleshell Heroes that's what real elites and real men do not what the USMC do
Training matters? really? July 1st 1916, the most over trained infantry (British) in Europe was sent in waves at German machine gunners. In one day, they lost 60,000 killed and wounded without gaining ground. In 4 months, they lost nearly 1/2 million.
let me make it clear that no Marine is ashamed of the Haditha massacre. We're the new Waffen SS as Ive said before. We dont give a single fuck.
last time I checked the USMC was the reason American won in Iraq, that Paris was defended from the Germans in 1918...the reason England was raided for the first time since the Normans, the reason the US won in the Pacific and now finally they were called in to replace the British in Helmand.
When we are deployed, its for a reason. Your countrymen had 4 yrs to make progress and didnt...now youre loosing your AO for good. Youve been made irrelevant in this last war like in Iraq after Basrah
The USMC is the new Waffen SS. If your pussy limey ass if so squeamish as to what we did to the sand niggers...you saw nothing yet. During WW2, we used to collect the teeth of the dead japs...cut off ears and wore them on our dog tag strings.
The same japs who made 120,000 brits surrender in one day at Singapore, so quit your bitching.
Someone had to defeat them and it wasnt the british
In 1942 churchill was pleading to the US and willing to trade british soil for old American battleships just so he could defend his little island...You people werent bitching about our tactics when Adolf was at your doorstep.
Half a million American Springfield rifles were bought by the British homeguard because there wasnt enough Enfields to go around....seeing as how most were lost in the retreat from Dunkirk.
More like still waiting for the USMC to apologies for causing the deaths of though's French soldiers due to there unsolder like behaviour pissing on dead Taliban bodies and they are supposed to be good soldiers BULLSHIT. Also a sorry to all troops fighting in Afghanistan as they have now once again given the Taliban fuel and a reason to kill foreign troops in Afghanistan. Unlike the Royal Marines who are elite solders and respect there enemy and are good soldiers
@USMarineRifleman0311 Im astounded at your stupidity anyway they are still soldiers yes they will have different names like a basic Royal Marine is called a marine but that means nothing, also have you heard the latest story of what your good old american military has done burned the koran. ye well done give the Taliban another angle to spin, have u seen the effect that has had
please stop opening your suck. Us Marines regardless of nation, are men of the sea, to call us soldiers is as much disrespectful as to call us sailors.
The southern Helmand has yet to be recaptured by my bretheren. Our blood will be shed to fix your country's mistake from 2007.
Ive lost enough brothers in 2010 when they took Marjah and Sangin alone, so do me a favor and shut the fuck up
@USMarineRifleman0311 you sure they were shot my your own men judging my your past record that is if your even in the USMC? and why don't you fuck off your the one on Royal Marines videos and anything British saying shit when america are worse, we did drop a nuke on woman and children, we didn't piss on dead Taliban bodies, we did burn the koran a holly book, we didn't get French soldiers killed as a result of our stupidity and we didn't manage 91 ff cases in a year and thats just the start
@USMarineRifleman0311 i'm sorry try and disprove anything i said in the last post i DEAR YOU cus i can show you the links aswell if you like idiot, you only angle is to say i no nothing when you can't even disprove anything in my last post
OK, seeing as how I contribute to the USMC hist Fortitudine magazine itself and seeing as how I personally know the chief editor in charge of marinecorpstimes, I had him remove the friendly fire article after showing him actual "icasualties" statistics.
He in turn told me that the article was passed to him by an errenous character w/o sources.
If you google USMC friendly fire right now, only the case of Sgt Peralta will show up.
@USMarineRifleman0311 ha ha ha o how wrong you are, i did as you said and googled USMC friendly fire and o look what i found the story of the USMC managing 91 cases of friendly fire in 1 year. So as normal you are wrong, anything else you would like to try and disprove in that post i made as i think you will find it is all true and correct :)
@USMarineRifleman0311 ha ha you just making shit up now as you no i am right. Hows this i googled USMC friendly fire and o look what i found the story of the USMC managing 91 cases of friendly fire in a year. So once again you were proved wrong and i think you will find the rest of the stuff in my post is true and correct aswell. Hows that dickhead?
@USMarineRifleman0311 yes i no about it, and as i said before i told you i was right about the points that i made before so much so you have to go off topic and on a new tangent to find something on the united kingdom and its military. why don't you just fuck off and stop posting your shit on these's videos? also as your on google why not google americans burning the koran, or america murdering woman and children by dropping a nuke of them? worst atrocities done my american ye well done
Im switching to a different topic because talking to you is like talking to a deaf retard.
icasualties does not support your claims. There is absolutely no factual evidence behind those numbers.
You do realize it was the British who invented concentration camps rather than the Germans? and it was the British once again who were the first to fire bomb Berlin....Dresden...Hamburg? civilian targets
@USMarineRifleman0311 bullshit i have proved the USMC have managed 91 friendly fire cases in one year i have showed you the link to the story and you just use words and say you no people please stop talking shit. and yes i never said Britain has done nothing but we didn't drop 2 nukes of 2 different cities which cause lots more casualties and problems. and i'm sorry guantanamo bay ring a bell you can't talk
I am truly struggling to retain my patience with someone as mentally challenged as you.
What in gods name are you still babbling about? An internet story isnt proof of anything. Go to icasualties org and find each and every one of those 91 cases.
@USMarineRifleman0311 look at you try to say we burned Qurans and pissed on dead persians the answer is no you good old american did so shut up. and i would like to no how you think dropping 2 nukes did less that are bombings when there would of been after effects and people getting cancers and dying slowly. and is that all you can do is put forward a website mines just as right as yours, here's another story your USMC gunned down 24 Iraqis in cold blood, including many women and children
The USMC is the new Waffen SS. If your pussy limey ass if so squeamish as to what we did to the sand niggers...you saw nothing yet. During WW2, we used to collect the teeth of the dead japs...cut off ears and wear them on our dog tag strings.
The same japs who made 120,000 brits surrender in one day at Singapore, so quit your bitching.
Someone had to defeat them and it wasnt the british
@USMarineRifleman0311 you call collecting teeth and cutting of there ear and wearing them good, that just shows how shit and poorly trained your actually were and still our. you talk about defeating them you had to drop 2 nukes on woman and children to win you didn't defeat there armies and had to do that as you were taking so many casualties as you found it hard to defeat them. there are lots of stories to show how shit the USMC and american are all you do is shoot yourself and innocent people
training has nothing to do with it. The Japanese were a worthy adversary. They didnt surrender to us like the British did to them in Malaya and Burma time and time and time again.
Our aggresivenes has faults yes...but results more than anything.
Dont talk about bombing or killing innocent people. Since it was the RAF that sunk the SS Deutschland and killed over 6,000 jews aboard it.
@USMarineRifleman0311 bullshit again, training has everything to do with it special forces have a harder and longer training than most so yes it does. and yes you fought the Japanese and still it took the whole USMC and there army, navy, air force. a country thats 4x bigger and still you found it difficult and took so many casualties you had to drop 2 nukes. you whole fighting style and training has faults, the latest story last month a us marine killed 24 Iraqis including women and children.
Training matters? really? July 1st 1916, the most over trained infantry (British) in Europe was sent in waves at German machine gunners. In one day, they lost 60,000 killed and wounded without gaining ground. In 4 months, they lost nearly 1/2 million.
let me make it clear that no Marine is ashamed of the Haditha massacre. We're the new Waffen SS as Ive said before. We dont give a single fuck.
@USMarineRifleman0311 see that is how bad you are you don't care about killing innocent people even if they were woman and children, i would be disgusted to be in the USMC or american. your not the new waffen SS you just some shit army, that shoot each other and innocent people and are not elites and nothing special. and WW1 was different as nobody on earth had fought a war anything like it. Americans are a danger to work with in any war like Afghan has proved burning the koran for one example
@USMarineRifleman0311 i have supported what i have said, you still haven't disproved half the stuff i said, i even show you the links and still you are stick with that stupid idea that the USMC are good and better than the Royal Marines even though you are wrong. You say your happy with what happened with the killing of these 24 people then it just shows more evidence of how bad and shit the USMC are
what the cockle shell heroes did, and I am well familiar with their story. What they did however, didnt change the strategic outcome of the war. What the 2nd US Marines did on Guadalcanal did change the tide of the war against the Japanese.
What the 5th and 6th US Marines did at Chateau Thierry and Bellau Wood did change the tide of WW1.
2nd US Marines was the only thing standing between the Japs and Australia...not a British unit in any way
@USMarineRifleman0311 the USMC are an army they have air support, navy support and tanks thats a lot against the Japanese and any enemy. the Japanese were 4 times smaller than america and still you found it difficult and still you had to drop 2 nukes so however good your so called USMC are they aren't. And the Royal Marines are not a army they are an elite unit and as such they do missions not fight like an army like the USMC. the Royal Marines did make a different St Nazaire Raid ring a bell
St Nazaire was the masterpiece of No. 2 commando a BA unit...not RMs..
Operation Frankton (aka Cockleshell heroes action) ended in 0 German vessels sunk...this was the royal marine action.
The USMs had absolutely no naval or air support on the Canal. They were left there on the island without armor, supplies, food, ammo and everything else to deal with the Japs. Japs lost 31,000 men. It was a strategic victory...unlike Malaya or Singapore
@USMarineRifleman0311 you idiot 2 commando became one of the 3 commando untis, again you got it wrong there job was not to sink but to put them out of action and they did. i am sorry but you still had armor for one and secondly the japs just used mass numbers it is not exactly hard to shoot them down and win but still you struggled and had to drop 2 nukes. you may of won there unlike Korea and Vietnam and you can't compare wooden ships to metal you prick use your undeveloped brain
St Nazaire was not an RM action...period. They werent there. They did however fail at the Dieppe and Op Agreement raids. St Nazaire had no impact on the war. Prior to St Nazaire over a 1,000 American supply ships were lost in the Atlantic because the RN lost control over the shipping lanes.
The atom bombs were dropped to intimidate the USSR not to end the war with Japan. Truman was criticized for this truth till the end of his term.
@USMarineRifleman0311 ST Nazaire raid had no impact you idiot you clearly need to do some research, it was a VERY important and had a BIG impact but your american what would you no. The Royal Marines are now called Royal Marines commandos due to though's men and what they did therefore it was done my Royal Marines as they were then reorganised and changed there name to Royal Marine commandos. it was not dropped to intimidate the USSR you still had not won the war and as such used it to win
Truman was called a cold blooded murderer for his decission to prevent the further envolvement of the USSR on the western theater of the Pacific theater in late '45 so he what we did was to drop those bombs....There is clear proof of Hirohito's requests to negotiate prior to Aug '45.
This was all because US Marines took the strategic islands and enabled us to launch bombing runs on Tokyo...without them......we wouldve lost more men
@USMarineRifleman0311 St Nazaire raid did make a difference try doing some actual research on it dickhead, and the 2 nukes were dropped as you couldn't beat the Japanese not to do with the USSR. but the point still stands the only country in the world to nuke woman and children america, and still to this day you are gunna them down and you are ok with that. but you wouldn't find a story of a Royal Marine killing woman and children in cold blood or the united kingdom dropping a nuke
First raid on American soil since 1781 was in the northern eastern seaboard by RMs in 1813. Civilian cottages along the coastline were burned and civilians forced out to flee their homes.
1815...Louisiana, civilian fisheries and fishing fleets docked along the coast prior to the Battle of Lake Borge were sacked and burned to prevent them to aid the USN flotilla.
by who? RMs...
But when the real battle of New Orleans commenced? they ran back to the ships
@USMarineRifleman0311 nice stories but still they prove my point the USMC have done much worce than the Royal Marines and still are to this day the struggle to decide who is the enemy and who is friendly. they still kill innocent people if they be men, woman or children. and you don't understand the St nazaire raid you idiot it did make a difference look it up dickhead or do you wont me to tell you some real facts about it or even go on the website
you expect me to conduct research of my own on your stupid claims?
Do you understand the first element of argument making? You dont make a claim and expect it to explain itself dumbfuck. This is 1st grade knowledge.
The USMC was a crucial and integral part to every war the US fought since 1775.
The Revolution literally hinged on the USS Ranger and the ability of the US Marines to defeat the RMs aboard the Drake and make it to France with the news of Saratoga
what fucking sources? what single fucking source have you referred in the past hour or the past 5 months?
Opinion is not argument dumbfuck.
I dont have to look far to see royal marines embarrasing themselves. 3 officers surrendered to the Iranians only years ago and 20+ yrs ago about a company of marines surrendered to the argentinians in the falklands. Remind me the last time USMs surrendered
@USMarineRifleman0311 right this is the last post for tonight as i wish to sleep and am feed up of listen to your shit and you thinking you are right when you are wrong. and they were ordered to surrender against the Argentinians but you would no that if you did some research for once. go onto the daily telegraph website put in USMC ff on google it is everywhere just you don't look and youtube does not let me right enough and you just change the information or brush over it. fuck off Rm videos
@USMarineRifleman0311 i looked on the dailymail for your so called story and found nothing you lied or just made it up, the Royal Marines aren't like the USMC. I also look up the story of the so called 4 royal Marines that murdered the sailor still couldn't find the story. why the daily mail of all papers they are a tabloid and if you no what that means then you no they like to stretch and change the true to make the story sound better. so your source was shit
@USMarineRifleman0311 you can talk you have shown no sources as you like to put it with what you have said, i have asked if you wont my sources you have said no and when i do give you them you ignore them so shut up. you just make claim after claim after claim, or you go back 200 years to find something on the RM all i have to do is watch the news and some story about your shit USMC come up. why don't you just pack it up for the night and try again tomorrow maybe then u will see the truth
Im still awaiting the apology the MoD should give to the 300 Americans that died by fire from the HMS Hawkins in april 1944 when they were mistaken for Germans
They weren't mistaken for Germans. The blue-on-blue from HMS Hawkins was part of Operation Tiger (landing exercise) on beaches in Southern Devon. The only German involvement was the presence of German U-boats which attacked the convoy so i don't understand where you got the whole 'mistaken for Germans' rubbish from. People don't really look like subs lets be honest.
FYI, Eisenhower ordered the use of live shells to make the exercise more lifelike.
I dont even know why I bother wasting time with someone who cant locate Iraq or Nasiriyah on the map, let alone someone who isnt a service member under the MoD, or a veteran of any of the conflicts
royal marines havent won 1 battle without support of the army or navy. 1/2 of the RM corps was deployed to Sangin from 2005-10 and lost around 100 KIA without making any progress.
In 4 months. 3rd Batt. 5th Marines and in 24 KIA, they did what the RMs couldnt do in 4 yrs.
The simple fact that we've been redeployed to Helmand of all places means its a hot AO and needs to be unfucked. Where ever we're sent its for a good reason.
thhe only thing the USMC famous for is shooting each other 91 in year, they are just a poorly trained army not elite soldiers like royal marines, yu look back in the royal marines history they have never done anything that poorly
the problem is you dont know either organizations history. You make claims which have been debunked and are easily disproveable. I have solid historical events with dates and kill counts, lost battles, mutinies and recruiting agendas.
The USMC has been crucial in winning America's wars since 1918 in whatever theater deployed. The hottest AOs since Bellau Wood to the Pacific, Korea, Nam, Al Anbar, and now Helmand have been assigned to us.
@USMarineRifleman0311 my stuff can be disproved well try porve this wrong, USMC 91 FF cases in a year, USMC pissing on dead taliban bodies and causing the death of french soldiers. the USMC lost in Korea and vietnam. The USMC are just an army, no force can ever consider themselves good or even elites with all that history and poor training
your intelligence is the proof here. Or the absence of it I should say.
I keep telling your dumbfuck ass that those 90 cases were all inflicted upon the USMs by other branches. I have actual documents from the DoD on these incidents. 28 alone by USAF in Nasiriyah.
The USMC cant loose a war. Its mission is to fight and win battles. Our record when fighting the RMs is a testimonial of its own.
@USMarineRifleman0311 please your not a service men aswell just a troll, and the 91 cases of FF are of USMC on USMC do you wont the link again you prick. and haven't lost a war sorry 1812 war, korean war, vetnam war. You just wont admit the truth. and see wrong again those 91 cases of freindly fire were not in Nasiriyah so try again. And i don't see any Royal Marine managing that many in a year
Do you have any clue what happened in Nasiriyah...
You cant imagine how many times over the past 3 months Ive had to hold myself back from bursting out loud laughing or calling you a total fucking retard for the crap you claim.
@USMarineRifleman0311na you make ne laugh is that the best you can do you no i am right so you go on about how i can't spell, well i've got dyslexia but so what u still chat shit
We've had Marine marksmen kill 20 insurgents by themselves...another officer who killed a platoon of hajis in Iraq ...and the best the royal marines can do is fight off a dozen fighters
who knows, after the Battle of New Orleans, US Marines probably pissed on the dead bodies of the dead Royal marines on the right bank of the Mississippi.
Royal marines arent elite at all, they have a small budget nothing more. The royal navy cant afford to keep its ships afloat, let alone maintain a marine force above 8,000
Furthermore, the fact that the USMC was sent to Helmand means only one thing. No progress was made to push the taliban back. Who's to blame there? It was the RMs time to shine and they fucked up
@USMarineRifleman0311 yes thats right go back 200 years as you love it so much i only need to go back 5 years to find stuff to prove how poor the USMC are
RMs were never better. You recruited freed slaves, had mutinies, mass surrenders and retreats during the War of 1812
Your friendly fire claim is totally bogus, if I should even choose to adress it. 1/3 of 91 cases, were USAF on USMC (Nasiriyah), another third were where Iraqi troops fired on the USMC, and the other third is US army artillery on USMC (Baqubah).
USMC managed 91 friendly fire cases in a year, they lost to Korea and Vietnam, they were captured in camera pissing on dead Taliban bodies and in retaliation the Taliban killed French soldiers (how shit are u). A basic person in the USMC takes 12 weeks, a basic British soldier takes more, a BASIC Royal Marine takes 32 weeks and a Royal Marines does not need a entire army, navy, air force to win. you american think your USMC are better look at real facts, USMC just another poorly trained army
@USMarineRifleman0311 no you idiot wrong again the 91 cases were of USMC shooting USMC i'll even give you the link it you wont show you real proof, there one reason why i said poor training. Second lost to korea and vietnam, third always has to go into battle with army, navy, air force and fourth pissing on dead Taliban. A well trained and skill soldier wouldn't do that. and longest sniper shot done by British mate so try again
what in gods name are you still rambling about incoherently for? I taught I taught you to atleast form a 21yr olds mature argument. Not something written by a pre-schooler.
The USMC is the only maritime force on the planet that has won wars. Marines cannot win wars, only battles (in theory) The USMC won 6 wars on its own in the Caribbean.
@USMarineRifleman0311 yes it has won wars as it is not an elite for but an army a basic army, and you still missed the point the USMC are poorly trained and not as good as the Royal Marines read it
it was the poorly trained American colonials who beat the cream of the crop of the British army during the largest scale battle on the N. American continent=Monmouth
@USMarineRifleman0311 again you go back to 1800, seems the only time you guys were any good i only need to go back months to find proof how shit you are, remember your soldiers pissing dead Taliban?
The British had turned Helmand into the most fucked up AO in Afghan. The entire USMC has been diverted sooner than planned from OIF to OEF just to unfuck Helmand.
You people had 4 yrs to keep the Taliban out and now youve given them over 40% of the S. Helmand valley.
The RMCs with 500+ weeks of training and after 100 casualties couldnt take Sangin in 4 yrs.
1841 First British Afghan war. 9,500 British invaded then suffered the most complete defeat in military history with only one survivor to escape dressed as a woman.
@dasdasist well no britian was the majority force in helmand were its by far the worst place in afghan untill last year when US forces took over there but were still out there its just US forces are in control and at the min 42cdo out there
@wiganerrmc oh because, i used to hear about alot of joint op, going on there but now i dont hear much about any other country being in afghanistan, i barely hear any news about the war nowadays but the osama thing
@KingFreshmilk You can join the RMs as an enlisted rank from 15 years and 9 months old as long as you have your parents signature on the form, wont see active combat though till 18 for obvious reasons.
@KingFreshmilk Ye it's a contentious issue since they technically are "child soldiers", but they wont see active combat and very few teens have the maturity and mental strength to make it through RT without quitting so someone joining who'd be under 18 is very rare.
Cant wait join the royal marines...when I'm 18 :) does anyone know how to join the royal marines?? I went on the army website and there's was no application to join the royal marines?? Any help??
@EllisFitz1995 I would make sure your physically fit enough first m8 Im currently doing my training im 2 weeks in and back home for 1 week and i have to be honest you get pushed through HELL.Oh and P.S do some back exercises in the gym your guna need it.
US is 12 weeks of training which is just shit even the just plain British army is 21 weeks but the British marines are 32 week so US sorry to say your shit why I am even saying feeling sorry for them that they rape women in the army and bully people yeah go head you are the shitest army ever
@cocoacracka well were not. We are a country that is not out own. Getting involved in conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq jsut becuase of greedy fucking americans. We are not on the same side. We are betrayed by our leaders who want to please their american masters.
it was the British with their superior training who lost Basrah in 2007 to a 3rd world militia. The first surrender of a city, sector, province and retreat was by British infantry out of an American war.
As far as superior training...your royal marines have had more surrenders in the period since 1982 than the USMC did during WW2.
USMC is crucial to winning every American war, as we've seen in AlAnbar, the British military isnt crucial to our strategy at all
@USMarineRifleman0311 here you are again just fuck off Royal Marines are better, and you can't talk about loosing to a 3rd world milita you lost in Korea and Vietnam so you real can't talk.
I don't think you can fully appreciate how hard Commando logistics & warfare is until you're either deploying it against the enemy as one of them, or until you're hopelessly trying to fight back in a tactical battlefield situation against it with the elite themselves rapidly closing in on killing or capturing you. Per mare per terram. Max respect.
@thisishiphop101 yes specilization is ytraining so 32 weeks is basic seen as every one goes through it so therfor its basic and specilization takes over so you shut up and may i ask what do you serve as?
how's this for a REAL source and a REAL story, go onto the daily telegraph put in on the toolbar on the right side of the website "US Marine Frank Wuterich faces three months in prison for role in Haditha massacre". What this US Marine did was kill 24 innocent unarmored men women and children. and will your there you can look at the story of the french soldiers that died due to the USMC
Knightrider9091 19 hours ago
I mean for fucks sake...it took 4 marines to kill 1 sailor....
they had to gang up on him
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
while youre on dailymail...look up the story of 4 royal marines who murdered a royal navy sailor for mocking them.
so much for honor....why werent they trained not to kill their own for not being able to take a joke?
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
over all america has more casualties than Britain in both Iraq and Afghanistan
Knightrider9091 1 day ago
@Knightrider9091
Afghanistan is America's war...not Europe's
We've been in Helmand since 2004, watching you people blunder and blunder one offensive after another until redeploying the USN and USMC elements from OIF to OEF in 2010.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
icasualties org shows 395 British KIA in Helmand
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
Casualties in Helmand as of 2011
249 KIA -UK
149 KIA US
source Bishop, Patrick (2007). 3 Para. HarperPress. p. 50. ISBN 978 0 00 725778 2.
icasualties org
look it up
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
2006-2010 - 100 RM killed and around 330 wounded in the areas around Sangin....unable to fully pacify the area.
2010-11 5th US Marines arrive..undertake OP Khanjar - largest offensive in the history of the province, take back Musa Qala, Sangin, Marja and venture our farther into the valley on the Paki border.
That right there is more than any British unit did in 4 yrs after 300 KIA
To this day, US casualties are 2x lower in the province.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
Stop making stupid opinionated claims and start providing evidence and citations with sources that can be tracked.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
In the Solomons campaign we killed 80,000 Japs and sunk 50 of their ships while loosing only 10,000 men. In the Marianas the Japs lost 93,000 to our 9.500.
In the Volcano and Ryuku campaign the Japs lost 114,000 dead to our 19,000
We didnt need no atomb bomb to help us end the war. The war was over before those bombs were dropped. Anybody with a 10th grade social studies education knows how the cold war started in 1945.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
Did the St Nazaire raid somehow prevent the 1,000 or so US supply ships from being sunk by u boats that werent sunk by the Royal navy?
Did the st Nazaire raid speed up the end of the war by hampering the supply lines in the Meditarranean? No...that would be someone else.
Only a propagandist can claim a blunder like the one at Zeebrugge in 1918 was decisive
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
No British unit was match for a Japanese unit during WW2...the Royal navy didnt even show its face in the Pacific.
The best adversaries we as Marines ever had was those who defeated the British in Malaya and Burma with pure ease.
During the Gilbert and Marshall Islands campaign we killed 17,000 Japanese...and only captured 141. Tough men...those Japs. For those 17,000, they bled the USMC of 1,800 men.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
The Royal Marines never grew beyond 4 brigades during WW2...On D-Day, they only landed 2 infantry brigades...once army infantry had secured the beacheads. Of those two brigades only 1 saw action in Belgium and the Netherlands.
Making absolutely no impact on the war. St Nazaire was a propaganda coup.
The Brit and Can. troops lost more men at Caen in the summer of 1944, than we lost total in the Pacific.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
Not hard to defeat the Japs? Then please explain to me why the 120,000 superior trained British in Malaya didnt defeat the 30,000 Japs.
Why did it take 3 offensive to take Burma and only one wave of Marines to take Okinawa?
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
wooden and metal ships? lmao
Youre right for once. Youre completly right. How could I forget such a decisive detail. You see the Continental Marines raided those British wooden ships in pure daylight and burned them in British waters...they didnt skulk around sabotaging them in pitch dark of the night.
At Whitehaven in 1778, US Marines burned Whitehaven and sunk the entire British supply fleet in the harbor...as well as overruning the fort nearby
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
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St Nazaire was the masterpiece of No. 2 commando a BA unit...not RMs..
Operation Frankton (aka Cockleshell heroes action) ended in 0 German vessels sunk...this was the royal marine action.
The USMs had absolutely no naval or air support on the Canal. They were left there on the island without armor, supplies, food, ammo and everything else to deal with the Japs. Japs lost 31,000 men. It was a strategic victory...unlike Malaya or Singapore
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USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
America had no difficulty against the Japanese. We had more difficulty fighting the Confederates during the 1860s than any foreign enemy.
We dropped the bombs to intimidate the USSR and initiate the cold war, Hirohito had already come out saying he was willing to surrender. The ending of the Pacific war had nothing to do with the atom bombs.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
the Continental Marines of the 1770s sunk more British vessels in European waters than the cockleshell heroes did...
watch?v=AaH2lrHVK3g
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
and this USMC who are supposed to be so good, who are needed in every war lost in Korea and Vietnam
Knightrider9091 1 day ago
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what the cockle shell heroes did, and I am well familiar with their story. What they did however, didnt change the strategic outcome of the war. What the 2nd US Marines did on Guadalcanal did change the tide of the war against the Japanese.
What the 5th and 6th US Marines did at Chateau Thierry and Bellau Wood did change the tide of WW1.
2nd US Marines was the only thing standing between the Japs and Australia...not a British unit in any way
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
In the same way...the entire British contingent in Iraq made no difference towards the victory...and in Afghanistan as well, the British are doing nothing but sitting in N. Helmand behind a barrier of US Marines in the center between Pakistan and Afghanistan. Take the British out of the picture entirely and nothing changes. You people simply dont contribute anything
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
You can completly take out the Royal Marines from any world war and no negative impact will be felt by the outcome of battles...if you take the US Marines out of the context...the Germans couldve taken Paris in 1918 and Australia wouldve falled to the Japs in 1942.
Royal Marines made no impact whatsoever...and neither did the British army...Regardless of training or elite status. It simply didnt matter.
They werent there...and they didnt do it.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
hows this for proof of well trained and elites solders and what they can do, look up The Cockleshell Heroes that's what real elites and real men do not what the USMC do
Knightrider9091 1 day ago
training matters? Do you remember Al Kut 1915? You got beat by Turks and Iraqis
Gallipoli? You outnumbered the Turks once again and failed miserably.
Like I told you in the past, training is irrelevant, professionals from Napoleon to Frederick studied logistics.
"Without supplies no army is brave" Frederick the Great II of Prussia
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
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@Knightrider9091
Training matters? really? July 1st 1916, the most over trained infantry (British) in Europe was sent in waves at German machine gunners. In one day, they lost 60,000 killed and wounded without gaining ground. In 4 months, they lost nearly 1/2 million.
let me make it clear that no Marine is ashamed of the Haditha massacre. We're the new Waffen SS as Ive said before. We dont give a single fuck.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
If you had taken the pain of actually researching any of the nonsense you speak about youd find out that the USMs lost more during Vietnam than WW2.
WW2 was not bloody for America. We werent retreating enmasse from the Germans on 4 different fronts in Europe.
The bloodiest American war was the civil war. We lost less in foreign wars since 1781 than you did at the Battle of the Somme ( a 4 month campaign)
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
last time I checked the USMC was the reason American won in Iraq, that Paris was defended from the Germans in 1918...the reason England was raided for the first time since the Normans, the reason the US won in the Pacific and now finally they were called in to replace the British in Helmand.
When we are deployed, its for a reason. Your countrymen had 4 yrs to make progress and didnt...now youre loosing your AO for good. Youve been made irrelevant in this last war like in Iraq after Basrah
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
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@Knightrider9091
haha Im fucking done.....and on a good note.
The USMC is the new Waffen SS. If your pussy limey ass if so squeamish as to what we did to the sand niggers...you saw nothing yet. During WW2, we used to collect the teeth of the dead japs...cut off ears and wore them on our dog tag strings.
The same japs who made 120,000 brits surrender in one day at Singapore, so quit your bitching.
Someone had to defeat them and it wasnt the british
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
In 1942 churchill was pleading to the US and willing to trade british soil for old American battleships just so he could defend his little island...You people werent bitching about our tactics when Adolf was at your doorstep.
Half a million American Springfield rifles were bought by the British homeguard because there wasnt enough Enfields to go around....seeing as how most were lost in the retreat from Dunkirk.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
The fire bombings of Dresden and Hamburg alone killed more than the atom bomb when it was dropped on Nagasaki.
Guantanamo cannot compare to the post Anglo Boer war incarceration of South Africans and those of the subsequent WW2 era.
The British were defeated in Iraq in 1916....and 3 seperate wars in Afghanistan...all without burning any Qurans or pissing on dead Persians.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
More like still waiting for the USMC to apologies for causing the deaths of though's French soldiers due to there unsolder like behaviour pissing on dead Taliban bodies and they are supposed to be good soldiers BULLSHIT. Also a sorry to all troops fighting in Afghanistan as they have now once again given the Taliban fuel and a reason to kill foreign troops in Afghanistan. Unlike the Royal Marines who are elite solders and respect there enemy and are good soldiers
Knightrider9091 5 days ago
@Knightrider9091
Im truly astounded by your total ignorance of everything naval.
In one comment you have called both the US and Royal marines ...soldiers.
With as much rivalry as I seem to propagate, I would never call another marine a soldier.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 Im astounded at your stupidity anyway they are still soldiers yes they will have different names like a basic Royal Marine is called a marine but that means nothing, also have you heard the latest story of what your good old american military has done burned the koran. ye well done give the Taliban another angle to spin, have u seen the effect that has had
Knightrider9091 1 day ago
@Knightrider9091
please stop opening your suck. Us Marines regardless of nation, are men of the sea, to call us soldiers is as much disrespectful as to call us sailors.
The southern Helmand has yet to be recaptured by my bretheren. Our blood will be shed to fix your country's mistake from 2007.
Ive lost enough brothers in 2010 when they took Marjah and Sangin alone, so do me a favor and shut the fuck up
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 you sure they were shot my your own men judging my your past record that is if your even in the USMC? and why don't you fuck off your the one on Royal Marines videos and anything British saying shit when america are worse, we did drop a nuke on woman and children, we didn't piss on dead Taliban bodies, we did burn the koran a holly book, we didn't get French soldiers killed as a result of our stupidity and we didn't manage 91 ff cases in a year and thats just the start
Knightrider9091 1 day ago
@Knightrider9091
Please stop talking. You dont even have a 9th grader's grasp of military history, let alone a knowledge of how things in the real world happen.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 i'm sorry try and disprove anything i said in the last post i DEAR YOU cus i can show you the links aswell if you like idiot, you only angle is to say i no nothing when you can't even disprove anything in my last post
Knightrider9091 1 day ago
@Knightrider9091
OK, seeing as how I contribute to the USMC hist Fortitudine magazine itself and seeing as how I personally know the chief editor in charge of marinecorpstimes, I had him remove the friendly fire article after showing him actual "icasualties" statistics.
He in turn told me that the article was passed to him by an errenous character w/o sources.
If you google USMC friendly fire right now, only the case of Sgt Peralta will show up.
Why? Me and my research.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 ha ha ha o how wrong you are, i did as you said and googled USMC friendly fire and o look what i found the story of the USMC managing 91 cases of friendly fire in 1 year. So as normal you are wrong, anything else you would like to try and disprove in that post i made as i think you will find it is all true and correct :)
Knightrider9091 1 day ago
@Knightrider9091
Your lack of punctuation prevents me from understanding the gibberish you formed as a rebuttal. Please try again.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 ha ha you just making shit up now as you no i am right. Hows this i googled USMC friendly fire and o look what i found the story of the USMC managing 91 cases of friendly fire in a year. So once again you were proved wrong and i think you will find the rest of the stuff in my post is true and correct aswell. Hows that dickhead?
Knightrider9091 1 day ago
@Knightrider9091
While youre on google.....
search the Hundreds year war.
Longest war in the history of man....a French victory over England.
Over a 100yrs of defeat.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 yes i no about it, and as i said before i told you i was right about the points that i made before so much so you have to go off topic and on a new tangent to find something on the united kingdom and its military. why don't you just fuck off and stop posting your shit on these's videos? also as your on google why not google americans burning the koran, or america murdering woman and children by dropping a nuke of them? worst atrocities done my american ye well done
Knightrider9091 1 day ago
@Knightrider9091
You no something? Or you "know"
Im switching to a different topic because talking to you is like talking to a deaf retard.
icasualties does not support your claims. There is absolutely no factual evidence behind those numbers.
You do realize it was the British who invented concentration camps rather than the Germans? and it was the British once again who were the first to fire bomb Berlin....Dresden...Hamburg? civilian targets
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 bullshit i have proved the USMC have managed 91 friendly fire cases in one year i have showed you the link to the story and you just use words and say you no people please stop talking shit. and yes i never said Britain has done nothing but we didn't drop 2 nukes of 2 different cities which cause lots more casualties and problems. and i'm sorry guantanamo bay ring a bell you can't talk
Knightrider9091 1 day ago
@Knightrider9091 @Knightrider9091
I am truly struggling to retain my patience with someone as mentally challenged as you.
What in gods name are you still babbling about? An internet story isnt proof of anything. Go to icasualties org and find each and every one of those 91 cases.
They dont exist.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 look at you try to say we burned Qurans and pissed on dead persians the answer is no you good old american did so shut up. and i would like to no how you think dropping 2 nukes did less that are bombings when there would of been after effects and people getting cancers and dying slowly. and is that all you can do is put forward a website mines just as right as yours, here's another story your USMC gunned down 24 Iraqis in cold blood, including many women and children
Knightrider9091 1 day ago
@Knightrider9091
haha Im fucking done.....and on a good note.
The USMC is the new Waffen SS. If your pussy limey ass if so squeamish as to what we did to the sand niggers...you saw nothing yet. During WW2, we used to collect the teeth of the dead japs...cut off ears and wear them on our dog tag strings.
The same japs who made 120,000 brits surrender in one day at Singapore, so quit your bitching.
Someone had to defeat them and it wasnt the british
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 you call collecting teeth and cutting of there ear and wearing them good, that just shows how shit and poorly trained your actually were and still our. you talk about defeating them you had to drop 2 nukes on woman and children to win you didn't defeat there armies and had to do that as you were taking so many casualties as you found it hard to defeat them. there are lots of stories to show how shit the USMC and american are all you do is shoot yourself and innocent people
Knightrider9091 1 day ago
@Knightrider9091
training has nothing to do with it. The Japanese were a worthy adversary. They didnt surrender to us like the British did to them in Malaya and Burma time and time and time again.
Our aggresivenes has faults yes...but results more than anything.
Dont talk about bombing or killing innocent people. Since it was the RAF that sunk the SS Deutschland and killed over 6,000 jews aboard it.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 bullshit again, training has everything to do with it special forces have a harder and longer training than most so yes it does. and yes you fought the Japanese and still it took the whole USMC and there army, navy, air force. a country thats 4x bigger and still you found it difficult and took so many casualties you had to drop 2 nukes. you whole fighting style and training has faults, the latest story last month a us marine killed 24 Iraqis including women and children.
Knightrider9091 1 day ago
@Knightrider9091
Training matters? really? July 1st 1916, the most over trained infantry (British) in Europe was sent in waves at German machine gunners. In one day, they lost 60,000 killed and wounded without gaining ground. In 4 months, they lost nearly 1/2 million.
let me make it clear that no Marine is ashamed of the Haditha massacre. We're the new Waffen SS as Ive said before. We dont give a single fuck.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 see that is how bad you are you don't care about killing innocent people even if they were woman and children, i would be disgusted to be in the USMC or american. your not the new waffen SS you just some shit army, that shoot each other and innocent people and are not elites and nothing special. and WW1 was different as nobody on earth had fought a war anything like it. Americans are a danger to work with in any war like Afghan has proved burning the koran for one example
Knightrider9091 1 day ago
@Knightrider9091
what in the fuck are you trying to prove now that you failed to support any other claim?
just shut the fuck up already
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 i have supported what i have said, you still haven't disproved half the stuff i said, i even show you the links and still you are stick with that stupid idea that the USMC are good and better than the Royal Marines even though you are wrong. You say your happy with what happened with the killing of these 24 people then it just shows more evidence of how bad and shit the USMC are
Knightrider9091 1 day ago
@Knightrider9091
what the cockle shell heroes did, and I am well familiar with their story. What they did however, didnt change the strategic outcome of the war. What the 2nd US Marines did on Guadalcanal did change the tide of the war against the Japanese.
What the 5th and 6th US Marines did at Chateau Thierry and Bellau Wood did change the tide of WW1.
2nd US Marines was the only thing standing between the Japs and Australia...not a British unit in any way
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 the USMC are an army they have air support, navy support and tanks thats a lot against the Japanese and any enemy. the Japanese were 4 times smaller than america and still you found it difficult and still you had to drop 2 nukes so however good your so called USMC are they aren't. And the Royal Marines are not a army they are an elite unit and as such they do missions not fight like an army like the USMC. the Royal Marines did make a different St Nazaire Raid ring a bell
Knightrider9091 1 day ago
@Knightrider9091
St Nazaire was the masterpiece of No. 2 commando a BA unit...not RMs..
Operation Frankton (aka Cockleshell heroes action) ended in 0 German vessels sunk...this was the royal marine action.
The USMs had absolutely no naval or air support on the Canal. They were left there on the island without armor, supplies, food, ammo and everything else to deal with the Japs. Japs lost 31,000 men. It was a strategic victory...unlike Malaya or Singapore
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 you idiot 2 commando became one of the 3 commando untis, again you got it wrong there job was not to sink but to put them out of action and they did. i am sorry but you still had armor for one and secondly the japs just used mass numbers it is not exactly hard to shoot them down and win but still you struggled and had to drop 2 nukes. you may of won there unlike Korea and Vietnam and you can't compare wooden ships to metal you prick use your undeveloped brain
Knightrider9091 1 day ago
@Knightrider9091
St Nazaire was not an RM action...period. They werent there. They did however fail at the Dieppe and Op Agreement raids. St Nazaire had no impact on the war. Prior to St Nazaire over a 1,000 American supply ships were lost in the Atlantic because the RN lost control over the shipping lanes.
The atom bombs were dropped to intimidate the USSR not to end the war with Japan. Truman was criticized for this truth till the end of his term.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 ST Nazaire raid had no impact you idiot you clearly need to do some research, it was a VERY important and had a BIG impact but your american what would you no. The Royal Marines are now called Royal Marines commandos due to though's men and what they did therefore it was done my Royal Marines as they were then reorganised and changed there name to Royal Marine commandos. it was not dropped to intimidate the USSR you still had not won the war and as such used it to win
Knightrider9091 1 day ago
@Knightrider9091
Truman was called a cold blooded murderer for his decission to prevent the further envolvement of the USSR on the western theater of the Pacific theater in late '45 so he what we did was to drop those bombs....There is clear proof of Hirohito's requests to negotiate prior to Aug '45.
This was all because US Marines took the strategic islands and enabled us to launch bombing runs on Tokyo...without them......we wouldve lost more men
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 St Nazaire raid did make a difference try doing some actual research on it dickhead, and the 2 nukes were dropped as you couldn't beat the Japanese not to do with the USSR. but the point still stands the only country in the world to nuke woman and children america, and still to this day you are gunna them down and you are ok with that. but you wouldn't find a story of a Royal Marine killing woman and children in cold blood or the united kingdom dropping a nuke
Knightrider9091 1 day ago
@Knightrider9091
First raid on American soil since 1781 was in the northern eastern seaboard by RMs in 1813. Civilian cottages along the coastline were burned and civilians forced out to flee their homes.
1815...Louisiana, civilian fisheries and fishing fleets docked along the coast prior to the Battle of Lake Borge were sacked and burned to prevent them to aid the USN flotilla.
by who? RMs...
But when the real battle of New Orleans commenced? they ran back to the ships
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 nice stories but still they prove my point the USMC have done much worce than the Royal Marines and still are to this day the struggle to decide who is the enemy and who is friendly. they still kill innocent people if they be men, woman or children. and you don't understand the St nazaire raid you idiot it did make a difference look it up dickhead or do you wont me to tell you some real facts about it or even go on the website
Knightrider9091 1 day ago
@Knightrider9091
you expect me to conduct research of my own on your stupid claims?
Do you understand the first element of argument making? You dont make a claim and expect it to explain itself dumbfuck. This is 1st grade knowledge.
The USMC was a crucial and integral part to every war the US fought since 1775.
The Revolution literally hinged on the USS Ranger and the ability of the US Marines to defeat the RMs aboard the Drake and make it to France with the news of Saratoga
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Knightrider9091 1 day ago
@Knightrider9091
what fucking sources? what single fucking source have you referred in the past hour or the past 5 months?
Opinion is not argument dumbfuck.
I dont have to look far to see royal marines embarrasing themselves. 3 officers surrendered to the Iranians only years ago and 20+ yrs ago about a company of marines surrendered to the argentinians in the falklands. Remind me the last time USMs surrendered
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 right this is the last post for tonight as i wish to sleep and am feed up of listen to your shit and you thinking you are right when you are wrong. and they were ordered to surrender against the Argentinians but you would no that if you did some research for once. go onto the daily telegraph website put in USMC ff on google it is everywhere just you don't look and youtube does not let me right enough and you just change the information or brush over it. fuck off Rm videos
Knightrider9091 1 day ago
@Knightrider9091
go to dailymail uk and search royal marine surrender kit
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 i looked on the dailymail for your so called story and found nothing you lied or just made it up, the Royal Marines aren't like the USMC. I also look up the story of the so called 4 royal Marines that murdered the sailor still couldn't find the story. why the daily mail of all papers they are a tabloid and if you no what that means then you no they like to stretch and change the true to make the story sound better. so your source was shit
Knightrider9091 19 hours ago
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@USMarineRifleman0311 you can talk you have shown no sources as you like to put it with what you have said, i have asked if you wont my sources you have said no and when i do give you them you ignore them so shut up. you just make claim after claim after claim, or you go back 200 years to find something on the RM all i have to do is watch the news and some story about your shit USMC come up. why don't you just pack it up for the night and try again tomorrow maybe then u will see the truth
Knightrider9091 1 day ago
@Knightrider9091
"we did drop a nuke on woman and children"
"we did burn the koran a holly book"
"get French soldiers killed"
so now its plural?
a holly book? what in the fuck are you smoking?
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 ye i wrote it wrong meant holy book get over it
Knightrider9091 1 day ago
Im still awaiting the apology the MoD should give to the 300 Americans that died by fire from the HMS Hawkins in april 1944 when they were mistaken for Germans
USMarineRifleman0311 5 days ago
@USMarineRifleman0311
They weren't mistaken for Germans. The blue-on-blue from HMS Hawkins was part of Operation Tiger (landing exercise) on beaches in Southern Devon. The only German involvement was the presence of German U-boats which attacked the convoy so i don't understand where you got the whole 'mistaken for Germans' rubbish from. People don't really look like subs lets be honest.
FYI, Eisenhower ordered the use of live shells to make the exercise more lifelike.
HauptmannRob 1 day ago
@HauptmannRob
So the HMS Hawkins was the savior of that day? Defender of England?
The number of dead is inexcuseable.
As with the El Alamein, Caen and Burma incidents where British bombers carpet bombed their own battalions.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
@USMarineRifleman0311
I'm not defending what happened and i didn't even suggest that in my post, stop trying to put words in my mouth.
All my point was that there are a few points in your statement that needed to be addressed, nothing more.
HauptmannRob 1 day ago
@HauptmannRob
fair enough
USMarineRifleman0311 1 day ago
I dont even know why I bother wasting time with someone who cant locate Iraq or Nasiriyah on the map, let alone someone who isnt a service member under the MoD, or a veteran of any of the conflicts
USMarineRifleman0311 5 days ago
royal marines havent won 1 battle without support of the army or navy. 1/2 of the RM corps was deployed to Sangin from 2005-10 and lost around 100 KIA without making any progress.
In 4 months. 3rd Batt. 5th Marines and in 24 KIA, they did what the RMs couldnt do in 4 yrs.
The simple fact that we've been redeployed to Helmand of all places means its a hot AO and needs to be unfucked. Where ever we're sent its for a good reason.
USMarineRifleman0311 5 days ago
thhe only thing the USMC famous for is shooting each other 91 in year, they are just a poorly trained army not elite soldiers like royal marines, yu look back in the royal marines history they have never done anything that poorly
Knightrider9091 1 week ago
@Knightrider9091
the problem is you dont know either organizations history. You make claims which have been debunked and are easily disproveable. I have solid historical events with dates and kill counts, lost battles, mutinies and recruiting agendas.
The USMC has been crucial in winning America's wars since 1918 in whatever theater deployed. The hottest AOs since Bellau Wood to the Pacific, Korea, Nam, Al Anbar, and now Helmand have been assigned to us.
USMarineRifleman0311 5 days ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 my stuff can be disproved well try porve this wrong, USMC 91 FF cases in a year, USMC pissing on dead taliban bodies and causing the death of french soldiers. the USMC lost in Korea and vietnam. The USMC are just an army, no force can ever consider themselves good or even elites with all that history and poor training
Knightrider9091 5 days ago
@Knightrider9091
your intelligence is the proof here. Or the absence of it I should say.
I keep telling your dumbfuck ass that those 90 cases were all inflicted upon the USMs by other branches. I have actual documents from the DoD on these incidents. 28 alone by USAF in Nasiriyah.
The USMC cant loose a war. Its mission is to fight and win battles. Our record when fighting the RMs is a testimonial of its own.
USMarineRifleman0311 5 days ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 please your not a service men aswell just a troll, and the 91 cases of FF are of USMC on USMC do you wont the link again you prick. and haven't lost a war sorry 1812 war, korean war, vetnam war. You just wont admit the truth. and see wrong again those 91 cases of freindly fire were not in Nasiriyah so try again. And i don't see any Royal Marine managing that many in a year
Knightrider9091 5 days ago
@Knightrider9091
"service men"
"wont"
"freindly"
Do you have any clue what happened in Nasiriyah...
You cant imagine how many times over the past 3 months Ive had to hold myself back from bursting out loud laughing or calling you a total fucking retard for the crap you claim.
USMarineRifleman0311 5 days ago
@USMarineRifleman0311na you make ne laugh is that the best you can do you no i am right so you go on about how i can't spell, well i've got dyslexia but so what u still chat shit
Knightrider9091 5 days ago
@Knightrider9091
I feel you have far more than dyslexia....something like mental retardation comes to mind.
USMarineRifleman0311 5 days ago
We've had Marine marksmen kill 20 insurgents by themselves...another officer who killed a platoon of hajis in Iraq ...and the best the royal marines can do is fight off a dozen fighters
USMarineRifleman0311 1 week ago
who knows, after the Battle of New Orleans, US Marines probably pissed on the dead bodies of the dead Royal marines on the right bank of the Mississippi.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 week ago
Royal marines arent elite at all, they have a small budget nothing more. The royal navy cant afford to keep its ships afloat, let alone maintain a marine force above 8,000
USMarineRifleman0311 1 week ago
Prior to 1930, the RMLI (UK) was 2x larger than the USMC.
The RMLI was the army, USMC was elite in those days.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 week ago
Furthermore, the fact that the USMC was sent to Helmand means only one thing. No progress was made to push the taliban back. Who's to blame there? It was the RMs time to shine and they fucked up
USMarineRifleman0311 1 week ago
The USMC had nobody to support it during the Barbary Coast wars or the Banana wars. Unless airplanes and drones were invented in 1805.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 week ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 yes thats right go back 200 years as you love it so much i only need to go back 5 years to find stuff to prove how poor the USMC are
Knightrider9091 1 week ago
@Knightrider9091
poor today? are you totally daft?
The Sunni triangle of Iraq was all the USMC's doing. Hadnt Al Anbar been secured, we wouldve lost the war.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 week ago
RMs were never better. You recruited freed slaves, had mutinies, mass surrenders and retreats during the War of 1812
Your friendly fire claim is totally bogus, if I should even choose to adress it. 1/3 of 91 cases, were USAF on USMC (Nasiriyah), another third were where Iraqi troops fired on the USMC, and the other third is US army artillery on USMC (Baqubah).
USMarineRifleman0311 1 week ago
USMC managed 91 friendly fire cases in a year, they lost to Korea and Vietnam, they were captured in camera pissing on dead Taliban bodies and in retaliation the Taliban killed French soldiers (how shit are u). A basic person in the USMC takes 12 weeks, a basic British soldier takes more, a BASIC Royal Marine takes 32 weeks and a Royal Marines does not need a entire army, navy, air force to win. you american think your USMC are better look at real facts, USMC just another poorly trained army
Knightrider9091 1 week ago
@Knightrider9091
Capt John Chontosh, US Marine, killed 48 insurgents by himself.
2 US Marine snipers, scored the two farthest confirmed kills in Iraq. The best a Royal Marine could do was 800yds.
I MEF/USMC/1stMarDiv literally won the war in Iraq by pacifying Al Anbar.
who's poorly trained?
USMarineRifleman0311 1 week ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 no you idiot wrong again the 91 cases were of USMC shooting USMC i'll even give you the link it you wont show you real proof, there one reason why i said poor training. Second lost to korea and vietnam, third always has to go into battle with army, navy, air force and fourth pissing on dead Taliban. A well trained and skill soldier wouldn't do that. and longest sniper shot done by British mate so try again
Knightrider9091 1 week ago
@Knightrider9091
what in gods name are you still rambling about incoherently for? I taught I taught you to atleast form a 21yr olds mature argument. Not something written by a pre-schooler.
The USMC is the only maritime force on the planet that has won wars. Marines cannot win wars, only battles (in theory) The USMC won 6 wars on its own in the Caribbean.
That is called a rebuttal. Now google rebuttal.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 week ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 yes it has won wars as it is not an elite for but an army a basic army, and you still missed the point the USMC are poorly trained and not as good as the Royal Marines read it
Knightrider9091 1 week ago
@Knightrider9091
it was the poorly trained American colonials who beat the cream of the crop of the British army during the largest scale battle on the N. American continent=Monmouth
USMarineRifleman0311 1 week ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 again you go back to 1800, seems the only time you guys were any good i only need to go back months to find proof how shit you are, remember your soldiers pissing dead Taliban?
Knightrider9091 1 week ago
The British had turned Helmand into the most fucked up AO in Afghan. The entire USMC has been diverted sooner than planned from OIF to OEF just to unfuck Helmand.
You people had 4 yrs to keep the Taliban out and now youve given them over 40% of the S. Helmand valley.
The RMCs with 500+ weeks of training and after 100 casualties couldnt take Sangin in 4 yrs.
It took 5th US Marines 6 months.
USMC = performance, tried and tested quality
USMarineRifleman0311 1 week ago
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1841 First British Afghan war. 9,500 British invaded then suffered the most complete defeat in military history with only one survivor to escape dressed as a woman.
RESPECT
lesdoyle2000 4 months ago
HOOAH from America :D
smellmyclock 7 months ago
Great to see them winning hearts and minds playing football with them, not shooting at them
afterdarkill 9 months ago
Wheres the RM now though? are they out or still there? as i know the US ar obviously the majoity force there, i dont know about everyone else
dasdasist 9 months ago
@dasdasist They're not there right now, as 40 commando came back last month, but 42 should be going back out there soon.
vivachief 9 months ago
@vivachief there out there
wiganerrmc 8 months ago
@dasdasist well no britian was the majority force in helmand were its by far the worst place in afghan untill last year when US forces took over there but were still out there its just US forces are in control and at the min 42cdo out there
wiganerrmc 8 months ago
@wiganerrmc oh because, i used to hear about alot of joint op, going on there but now i dont hear much about any other country being in afghanistan, i barely hear any news about the war nowadays but the osama thing
dasdasist 8 months ago
@dasdasist ye these still alot of joint ops even with the bin larden there was 2 SBS guys in that raid
wiganerrmc 8 months ago
Nice one mate, I'm joining next year now so I need to step up my fitness
EllisFitz1995 10 months ago
@EllisFitz1995
guy, you are 15 years old. I dont think that the army takes a 16 year old boy
KingFreshmilk 10 months ago
@KingFreshmilk You can join the RMs as an enlisted rank from 15 years and 9 months old as long as you have your parents signature on the form, wont see active combat though till 18 for obvious reasons.
ItsRMD 10 months ago
@ItsRMD
wow cool, in germany you cant
KingFreshmilk 10 months ago
@KingFreshmilk Ye it's a contentious issue since they technically are "child soldiers", but they wont see active combat and very few teens have the maturity and mental strength to make it through RT without quitting so someone joining who'd be under 18 is very rare.
ItsRMD 10 months ago
@KingFreshmilk mate, just becuase im 15 duznt mean i want to join the military becuase it looks cool, i really want to do this.
EllisFitz1995 10 months ago
@EllisFitz1995 you re right boy
i also want to the german Bundeswehr
KingFreshmilk 10 months ago
@EllisFitz1995 you re right boy
i also want to go to the Bundeswehr(german army)
KingFreshmilk 10 months ago
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@EllisFitz1995
guy, you are 15 years old. I dont think that the army takes a 16 year old boy.
KingFreshmilk 10 months ago
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KingFreshmilk 10 months ago
Cant wait join the royal marines...when I'm 18 :) does anyone know how to join the royal marines?? I went on the army website and there's was no application to join the royal marines?? Any help??
EllisFitz1995 11 months ago
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@EllisFitz1995 the royal marines are part of the navy so check it out on the site
MrSpeedDemon666 11 months ago
@EllisFitz1995 Royal marines arn't a part of the army.
royalmarines.mod.uk
WhyYouJelly 11 months ago
@WhyYouJelly I know, it's the royal navy, and i've found it, thanks anyway
EllisFitz1995 11 months ago
@EllisFitz1995 Go down your nearest Afco, might be abit of a wait to join, as of this month they only taking one troop a month in recruit training.
DJB2786 11 months ago
@EllisFitz1995 I would make sure your physically fit enough first m8 Im currently doing my training im 2 weeks in and back home for 1 week and i have to be honest you get pushed through HELL.Oh and P.S do some back exercises in the gym your guna need it.
cristiano2153 10 months ago
I have just submit my application to join the Royal Marines
SuperAdrianWilliams 11 months ago 2
LEGENDS! pure and simple
321muzz123 11 months ago
32 weeks is bit extensive dont you think?
ThatsMyNameLOL 11 months ago
@ThatsMyNameLOL 15 months for an officer
TheTurnerMeister 11 months ago
look at the size of their kit at 0:36 fair play lads
fache69 11 months ago
1 terrorist disliked this video
runexown 11 months ago
so what are canadas marines called ?
foreversorrow81 1 year ago
WHO THE FUCK DISLIKED IT!?!?!?!?!?!
antonybhoy 1 year ago 2
@antonybhoy they guy that didnt get into the marines
benjsy 1 year ago
1 person who has watched this video is a taliban
matapatapa 1 year ago
US is 12 weeks of training which is just shit even the just plain British army is 21 weeks but the British marines are 32 week so US sorry to say your shit why I am even saying feeling sorry for them that they rape women in the army and bully people yeah go head you are the shitest army ever
OutkastTheCrew 1 year ago 5
@OutkastTheCrew Wow buddy, thought we were all on the same side?
cocoacracka 1 month ago
@cocoacracka well were not. We are a country that is not out own. Getting involved in conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq jsut becuase of greedy fucking americans. We are not on the same side. We are betrayed by our leaders who want to please their american masters.
grimblebrumble17889 1 month ago
@OutkastTheCrew
it was the British with their superior training who lost Basrah in 2007 to a 3rd world militia. The first surrender of a city, sector, province and retreat was by British infantry out of an American war.
As far as superior training...your royal marines have had more surrenders in the period since 1982 than the USMC did during WW2.
USMC is crucial to winning every American war, as we've seen in AlAnbar, the British military isnt crucial to our strategy at all
USMarineRifleman0311 1 week ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 here you are again just fuck off Royal Marines are better, and you can't talk about loosing to a 3rd world milita you lost in Korea and Vietnam so you real can't talk.
Knightrider9091 1 week ago
US Marines + Royal Marines = One force you do not want to fuck with.
MISTERMISTER361 1 year ago 3
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@MISTERMISTER361 Especially when they are above the law.
jrobertsoneff 1 year ago
3:50 i dont know any one who could pick out that with out a sniper at any kind of range lol thats good camo
djdan151 1 year ago 2
I don't think you can fully appreciate how hard Commando logistics & warfare is until you're either deploying it against the enemy as one of them, or until you're hopelessly trying to fight back in a tactical battlefield situation against it with the elite themselves rapidly closing in on killing or capturing you. Per mare per terram. Max respect.
GhilliedUp 1 year ago
this war wasn't a very good idea
1982FMJ 1 year ago
@1982FMJ It wasn't a good idea for the ones who started it, Al-Qaeda that is.
mj2w1 1 year ago
USMC!
ziegler223 1 year ago
@ziegler223 i think you read the description wrong. It says ROYAL MARINES!
yeahbwoyyy 1 year ago
@yeahbwoyyy nope. i read it right. its all about the USMC!!!!! SEMPER FI. panzy
ziegler223 1 year ago
@ziegler223 Its about the Royal Marines (British) Mate.
krazykidzjm 1 year ago 8
@ziegler223 thats why nobody likes americans because of ignorant little children like yourself
yeahbwoyyy 1 year ago
@ziegler223 usmc training is 11 weeks long...... compared to our 32 week training just shows that you guys are the panzies.
prouty111 1 year ago
@prouty111 canadian forces infantry 30 weeks
thisishiphop101 1 year ago
@thisishiphop101 really? well i didn't know that!
prouty111 1 year ago
@thisishiphop101 thtas full training though the USMC 11 Weeks Basic Royal Marines 32 Week Basic CANADIAN iNFANTRY FULL IS 30
TheMortonnn 1 year ago
@TheMortonnn royal marines full is 32 also fuck head other wise its specialization and shut up if you dont serve fuckin pog
thisishiphop101 1 year ago
@thisishiphop101 yes specilization is ytraining so 32 weeks is basic seen as every one goes through it so therfor its basic and specilization takes over so you shut up and may i ask what do you serve as?
TheMortonnn 1 year ago