After all your hair looks perfect and softness in picture accentuate your beautiful character. One thing I wonder, how all those Superman characters let you sleep at night :-?
I must add though Hellise... that most women are letting your side down, not the men. Most women don't like those comics, nor do they want to take stage and deliberately (and intellectually) make the audience laugh... But I know many females who are absolutely piss funny, and all of them can tear men to pieces in that manner, but for every one of them, there are about a thousand who are crap. Just like men. for every decent man, there are ten thousand shit ones. Made out of shit, literally? Aye.
Hey Elise, that lass... Have you taken some time to watch all four (so far!) of my Wales videos? Ooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Take a look. You ought to. It contains hairy catterpillars and an emu. It does though. Oh aye. Let me know what you think, or not think. :P xx
My mate and his wife are both into Japanese anime, and regularly attend conventions and even cosplay. And I agree about Mock the week and other so called panel games being nothing but a boys club
@ripporter though arguably still in the traditionally feminine role of utilising the hunt and making clothes from the things that she has gathered! That is a bit of an odd choice though - does anyone actually buy these mittens?
@Eliseharris She does make and sell fur and leather for a living and she had a pair on display but I didn't ask how many of them she'd sold - she'd lined the mittens with beaver, so they were really warm. You find a dead skunk or raccoon on the road every couple of miles so otherwise they'd go to waste.
I've seen female comedians on Mock The Week: Lucy Porter, Jo Caulfield, Andi Osho and others. It's a very 'male' show but they're not just token women. Sarah Millican has been on most of the panel shows too. And Shappi Khorsandi has had a lot of coverage. On the whole, I think female comics are represented quite well on tv.
@Steve7508 yes, but I am going by what the Twitter feed said - that's really what I take issue with. Also panel games tend to make a big deal out of it if they ever have more than one woman at the same time. There are about 8 female comedians that get on all the panel shows. There are thousands and thousands that don't get any TV at all. You have named almost all the ones that get on them - I can probably name the other few (Sandi Toksvig doesn't really count as a comedian per se).
Others would be Ava Vidal, Holly Walsh, Shazia Mirza. I think the fact I have met all the female comedians in this list, and gigged with three quarters of them, gives you some idea of how very a small pool it must be. I am so far down the comedy ladder I look like an ant seen from space (edited to make very very slightly more sense than I originally made - I am doing too many things at once, think. So much for women being good at multitasking!)
@dolzaolcom good choices! I am sure people never used to be so weird about female comedians. After all Gracie was the funny one in Burns and Allen, and Lucille Ball and Fanny Brice did very well for themselves.
trixy is completely full of sh**. Some of the funniest, cleverest and most out-there comics are women. Some famous and recent examples are Maria Bamford (who I never would have heard of if it wasn't for YouTube), Tina Fey, Amy Poehlard... and here's my totally non-scientific reason as to why it seemed lesbians were the only funny women in comedy back in the 90s. Because they generally don't give a crap what men think. Now that's happening for all women comics.
@phlewis86 somebody descided to do that thing where they question whether an article should be there and the few people who came to my defence didn't follow the proper procedure. It all got over dramatic from what I gather and I don't think they will let anyone start an article on me again unless I am so famous I own the world.
Elise, I absolutely loved this video. It is hard to believe that we are in the 21st Century because there are still those people who put others into stereo-typical groups. We have moved on, everyone now is an individual who likes to do whatever they want and do not feel the need to be 'categorized' into stereo-typical groups because of their sex, skin colour or national origin. BTW You are funny, you're one of my favourite comedians, you make me laugh. Keep up the good work :)
@citled thanks. Some of the biggest obstacles to progress are stereotyping and categorising people based on completely arbitrary labels! The sooner everyone stops being lazy and sees people as individuals rather than "types" the better.
I'll add a scientific side of this (because I am like that and I am a nerd). Scientists believe that testosterone causes that men are funnier than women.
And, as a woman, I think men really are funnier :D I don't find our humour as entertaining as their. :)
@trixy9 really - do you not find yourself funny? Do you make jokes that you wouldn't yourself laugh at? If not then you may need to rethink this line of argument. I very much doubt any real scientist (who is not a charlatan or has an agenda) has any real scientific proof that a little more of a particular hormone than another will make someone more likely to make someone else laugh. Also both women and men have testosterone, plus a host of other hormones (including oestrogen).
Most of my female acquaintances are into comics, mostly because they're illustrative artists themselves. But then, usually they're not into super-hero or scifi comics. But that's probably because we're into comics that veer toward the fantastic...
One of the saddest things I've ever heard was when a female stand up comedian came to do a gig at Drama School I'm at and no one else from the LARGELY FEMALE company went to see her. One even said "Women aren't funny" HOW WOULD THEY KNOW IF THEY'VE NEVER SEEN ONE? I feel your frustration with it. Also as an aside Its nice you know that you're atypical but (as you explained) not so atypical as most people would have us believe.
When they held the Comic Mart in Westminster central hall, there were never many chicks there, probably about a dozen out of 800 or so people. The comic scene crashed through the floor since then. Can't get back into 2000ad, Marvel/DC it's creatively stifled. Mostly into Manga now, it has more vitality and depth to it. Frank Miller still entertains though but look at the shit he gets thrown at him from the press just because he's not willing to constrain himself creatively.
@KnockoffNigeI ah, I used to love 2000AD - what I love in retrospect is some of the same writers used to also write for the girls' comic Bunty. There were some very strange and twisted stories in that publication!
@Eliseharris Once I was admonished by a gf for reading 2000ad. So I sat her down and gave her a complete story to read, one by Pat Mills I think,, When she finished it she was almost in tears but still couldn't get over her prejudice. My explanation for the nadir in western comics is that they've become moralistic and preachy, unappealing to young folk railing against conformity, They should be more like Charlie and the Chocolate factory less like Charlotte's web.
It's a matter of Demographics. Any business shoots for the majority rather than anything else. However, the internet is changing that somewhat, because it gives a place for those smaller demographics to find niches in which they can thrive.
If you looked at just views for you channel and based your videos on what got the most hits. We'd be seeing you in a towel every week. Demographics of Youtube, hmm, let me see...
@misterblue66 well, you would think - but the towel video is neck and neck with "how to make cheerleader poms poms" and the teddy bear singing the happy happy birthday song most days!
@Eliseharris So, you wearing a towel, having a nose strip on, with cheerleader pom poms while singing happy birthday. I'd be scared at the potential hits you could get.
@misterblue66 also - boo to demographics! I have done a lot of online surveys lately and their assumptions, and those of advertisers, about people and their position in society was probably already out of step with reality some time in the late 1950s or thereabouts.
@Eliseharris Might be out of step, but a lot of what you see on store shelves isn't necessarily what everyone would want. It shoots for what will earn the most amount of money based on what takes up that physical space. The internet starts to overcome that because there isn't a physical space limitation, it's why you can pretty much find anything on ebay or amazon your quirky little heart desires.
Mainstream business will almost always ignore niche demographics though.
alright m8. have you read that vanity fair article by chris hitchens banging on about there being no such thing as female comedians or something?? search googles for christopher hitchens female comedians and u can read it.. i fink hes talkin bollocks btw so dont shoot the messenger (me)
@DreadsideNubune I hadn't read it - but there are so many people claiming so many ridiculous things in the world it's difficult to keep track of it all!
A lot of stereotyping is to make shortcuts for convenience and posturing. Since there are seven billion people, and a lifetime is only 3 billion seconds, some shortcuts are taken in order to make things a bit faster. The part I disagree with is the posturing, people tying to stand on whatever high-ground puts them in a position to get the most resources from others, and being all fake about it! Oh, acting is okay, because it explores and celebrates us all, you know what I mean : )
How many conventions have you been to? I just missed one here at the beginning of September. They look like fun judging from the latest season of 'The Guild'.
I don't really understand your dislike for romantic comedies. I think you would be good in one.
Anyone who says women aren't into comics Hasn't been to a ComicCon (I mean that in a generic, all-Con-encompasing way) recently. The number of women dressed up as their favourite video/computer-game/movie/TV-show/comic character is Huge, and it's Not all the women whose boyfriends dragged them along or booth-babes. Women get into graphic art, story, fiction, alternate realities, all of it. I read a Lot of webcomics done by women, and they rock hard at it.
@Ocker3 agreed. In fact I am not sure there's anything you can say "women" aren't into in the same way you can't say there are things "men" aren't into, because you can't lump people into two distinct and generic groups!
After all your hair looks perfect and softness in picture accentuate your beautiful character. One thing I wonder, how all those Superman characters let you sleep at night :-?
arvidmr 4 months ago
I remember Jimmy Olsen, when he sang, "Long Haired Lover From Liverpoool." (Watch my Wales vids! Do it! Doooooooooowwwiiit!) :P
Spillage66 4 months ago
I must add though Hellise... that most women are letting your side down, not the men. Most women don't like those comics, nor do they want to take stage and deliberately (and intellectually) make the audience laugh... But I know many females who are absolutely piss funny, and all of them can tear men to pieces in that manner, but for every one of them, there are about a thousand who are crap. Just like men. for every decent man, there are ten thousand shit ones. Made out of shit, literally? Aye.
Spillage66 4 months ago
Hey Elise, that lass... Have you taken some time to watch all four (so far!) of my Wales videos? Ooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Take a look. You ought to. It contains hairy catterpillars and an emu. It does though. Oh aye. Let me know what you think, or not think. :P xx
Spillage66 4 months ago
I find you hilarious if I turn off the sound and play distorted guitar through an amp while I watch you.
666MyBlueHeaven999 5 months ago
I thought you sold most your stuff back in Peckham.
XmyAssYTmofo 5 months ago
/me cheers
JasonMelancon 5 months ago
My mate and his wife are both into Japanese anime, and regularly attend conventions and even cosplay. And I agree about Mock the week and other so called panel games being nothing but a boys club
craigybus1 5 months ago
i'd only ever go on Shooting Stars
rollingcube 5 months ago
You look a bit like Ann Hathaway.
organicpaul 5 months ago
...and I hope you tidied up your brother's bedroom and his comics after you got finished filming there.
ripporter 5 months ago
@ripporter that very messy bedroom is mine and mine alone!
Eliseharris 5 months ago
@Eliseharris I saw a woman today who makes mittens out of roadkill skunks she finds. That's way more non traditional than being a comic.
ripporter 5 months ago
@ripporter though arguably still in the traditionally feminine role of utilising the hunt and making clothes from the things that she has gathered! That is a bit of an odd choice though - does anyone actually buy these mittens?
Eliseharris 5 months ago
@Eliseharris She does make and sell fur and leather for a living and she had a pair on display but I didn't ask how many of them she'd sold - she'd lined the mittens with beaver, so they were really warm. You find a dead skunk or raccoon on the road every couple of miles so otherwise they'd go to waste.
ripporter 5 months ago
I've seen female comedians on Mock The Week: Lucy Porter, Jo Caulfield, Andi Osho and others. It's a very 'male' show but they're not just token women. Sarah Millican has been on most of the panel shows too. And Shappi Khorsandi has had a lot of coverage. On the whole, I think female comics are represented quite well on tv.
Steve7508 5 months ago
@Steve7508 yes, but I am going by what the Twitter feed said - that's really what I take issue with. Also panel games tend to make a big deal out of it if they ever have more than one woman at the same time. There are about 8 female comedians that get on all the panel shows. There are thousands and thousands that don't get any TV at all. You have named almost all the ones that get on them - I can probably name the other few (Sandi Toksvig doesn't really count as a comedian per se).
Eliseharris 5 months ago
@Eliseharris by "this list" I am including all the ones on your list.
Eliseharris 5 months ago
Others would be Ava Vidal, Holly Walsh, Shazia Mirza. I think the fact I have met all the female comedians in this list, and gigged with three quarters of them, gives you some idea of how very a small pool it must be. I am so far down the comedy ladder I look like an ant seen from space (edited to make very very slightly more sense than I originally made - I am doing too many things at once, think. So much for women being good at multitasking!)
Eliseharris 5 months ago
@Eliseharris I'm impressed that you've met them all. I take your point: it's always the same people on those shows.
Steve7508 5 months ago
As a man I have to say I completely agree with you.
A fan of comic books and science fiction? It looks like Felicia Day has some competition for nerd queen.
Finally my two favorite comics are Jack Benny and Rita Rudner.
dolzaolcom 5 months ago
@dolzaolcom good choices! I am sure people never used to be so weird about female comedians. After all Gracie was the funny one in Burns and Allen, and Lucille Ball and Fanny Brice did very well for themselves.
Eliseharris 5 months ago
trixy is completely full of sh**. Some of the funniest, cleverest and most out-there comics are women. Some famous and recent examples are Maria Bamford (who I never would have heard of if it wasn't for YouTube), Tina Fey, Amy Poehlard... and here's my totally non-scientific reason as to why it seemed lesbians were the only funny women in comedy back in the 90s. Because they generally don't give a crap what men think. Now that's happening for all women comics.
hilby 5 months ago
So, you have a lot of Action in your bed, do you?
CampKohler 5 months ago
How come they don't have you on Wikipidia any more? I like your videos a lot and you are famous and very pretty too.
phlewis86 5 months ago
@phlewis86 somebody descided to do that thing where they question whether an article should be there and the few people who came to my defence didn't follow the proper procedure. It all got over dramatic from what I gather and I don't think they will let anyone start an article on me again unless I am so famous I own the world.
Eliseharris 5 months ago
I find women funnier than men, But comic books don't excite me :)
*Rushes off to buy red hair dye* ;)
CoZzMiX 5 months ago
Elise, I absolutely loved this video. It is hard to believe that we are in the 21st Century because there are still those people who put others into stereo-typical groups. We have moved on, everyone now is an individual who likes to do whatever they want and do not feel the need to be 'categorized' into stereo-typical groups because of their sex, skin colour or national origin. BTW You are funny, you're one of my favourite comedians, you make me laugh. Keep up the good work :)
citled 5 months ago
@citled thanks. Some of the biggest obstacles to progress are stereotyping and categorising people based on completely arbitrary labels! The sooner everyone stops being lazy and sees people as individuals rather than "types" the better.
Eliseharris 5 months ago
I'll add a scientific side of this (because I am like that and I am a nerd). Scientists believe that testosterone causes that men are funnier than women.
And, as a woman, I think men really are funnier :D I don't find our humour as entertaining as their. :)
trixy9 5 months ago
@trixy9 really - do you not find yourself funny? Do you make jokes that you wouldn't yourself laugh at? If not then you may need to rethink this line of argument. I very much doubt any real scientist (who is not a charlatan or has an agenda) has any real scientific proof that a little more of a particular hormone than another will make someone more likely to make someone else laugh. Also both women and men have testosterone, plus a host of other hormones (including oestrogen).
Eliseharris 5 months ago
Most of my female acquaintances are into comics, mostly because they're illustrative artists themselves. But then, usually they're not into super-hero or scifi comics. But that's probably because we're into comics that veer toward the fantastic...
Cassavius 5 months ago
One of the saddest things I've ever heard was when a female stand up comedian came to do a gig at Drama School I'm at and no one else from the LARGELY FEMALE company went to see her. One even said "Women aren't funny" HOW WOULD THEY KNOW IF THEY'VE NEVER SEEN ONE? I feel your frustration with it. Also as an aside Its nice you know that you're atypical but (as you explained) not so atypical as most people would have us believe.
grnlfe01 5 months ago
When they held the Comic Mart in Westminster central hall, there were never many chicks there, probably about a dozen out of 800 or so people. The comic scene crashed through the floor since then. Can't get back into 2000ad, Marvel/DC it's creatively stifled. Mostly into Manga now, it has more vitality and depth to it. Frank Miller still entertains though but look at the shit he gets thrown at him from the press just because he's not willing to constrain himself creatively.
KnockoffNigeI 5 months ago
@KnockoffNigeI ah, I used to love 2000AD - what I love in retrospect is some of the same writers used to also write for the girls' comic Bunty. There were some very strange and twisted stories in that publication!
Eliseharris 5 months ago
@Eliseharris Once I was admonished by a gf for reading 2000ad. So I sat her down and gave her a complete story to read, one by Pat Mills I think,, When she finished it she was almost in tears but still couldn't get over her prejudice. My explanation for the nadir in western comics is that they've become moralistic and preachy, unappealing to young folk railing against conformity, They should be more like Charlie and the Chocolate factory less like Charlotte's web.
KnockoffNigeI 5 months ago
It's a matter of Demographics. Any business shoots for the majority rather than anything else. However, the internet is changing that somewhat, because it gives a place for those smaller demographics to find niches in which they can thrive.
If you looked at just views for you channel and based your videos on what got the most hits. We'd be seeing you in a towel every week. Demographics of Youtube, hmm, let me see...
misterblue66 5 months ago
@misterblue66 well, you would think - but the towel video is neck and neck with "how to make cheerleader poms poms" and the teddy bear singing the happy happy birthday song most days!
Eliseharris 5 months ago
@Eliseharris So, you wearing a towel, having a nose strip on, with cheerleader pom poms while singing happy birthday. I'd be scared at the potential hits you could get.
misterblue66 5 months ago
@Eliseharris One big problem with the towel video is that you look upset in it. You are kinda funny though complaining about comments on your arms.
Larkvall 5 months ago
@Larkvall I am utterly ridiculous in it! But it is mostly for comic effect.
Eliseharris 5 months ago
@Eliseharris You are really HOT in the towel scenes in your Million!! video. Damn!!
Larkvall 5 months ago
@misterblue66 also - boo to demographics! I have done a lot of online surveys lately and their assumptions, and those of advertisers, about people and their position in society was probably already out of step with reality some time in the late 1950s or thereabouts.
Eliseharris 5 months ago
@Eliseharris Might be out of step, but a lot of what you see on store shelves isn't necessarily what everyone would want. It shoots for what will earn the most amount of money based on what takes up that physical space. The internet starts to overcome that because there isn't a physical space limitation, it's why you can pretty much find anything on ebay or amazon your quirky little heart desires.
Mainstream business will almost always ignore niche demographics though.
misterblue66 5 months ago
alright m8. have you read that vanity fair article by chris hitchens banging on about there being no such thing as female comedians or something?? search googles for christopher hitchens female comedians and u can read it.. i fink hes talkin bollocks btw so dont shoot the messenger (me)
DreadsideNubune 5 months ago
@DreadsideNubune I hadn't read it - but there are so many people claiming so many ridiculous things in the world it's difficult to keep track of it all!
Eliseharris 5 months ago
A lot of stereotyping is to make shortcuts for convenience and posturing. Since there are seven billion people, and a lifetime is only 3 billion seconds, some shortcuts are taken in order to make things a bit faster. The part I disagree with is the posturing, people tying to stand on whatever high-ground puts them in a position to get the most resources from others, and being all fake about it! Oh, acting is okay, because it explores and celebrates us all, you know what I mean : )
Helioforge 5 months ago
@Helioforge well in my experience shortcuts end up taking you the long, wrong way most of the time!
Eliseharris 5 months ago
How many conventions have you been to? I just missed one here at the beginning of September. They look like fun judging from the latest season of 'The Guild'.
I don't really understand your dislike for romantic comedies. I think you would be good in one.
Larkvall 5 months ago
@Larkvall not that many - three or four at most!
Eliseharris 5 months ago
@Eliseharris One coming up has filklore. It is folk music about science fiction.
Did people dress in costumes at the ones you went to?
Larkvall 5 months ago
@Larkvall yes. Lots of stormtroopers and people dressed as characters from Lexx at the MegaCon I attended.
Eliseharris 5 months ago
Anyone who says women aren't into comics Hasn't been to a ComicCon (I mean that in a generic, all-Con-encompasing way) recently. The number of women dressed up as their favourite video/computer-game/movie/TV-show/comic character is Huge, and it's Not all the women whose boyfriends dragged them along or booth-babes. Women get into graphic art, story, fiction, alternate realities, all of it. I read a Lot of webcomics done by women, and they rock hard at it.
Ocker3 5 months ago
@Ocker3 agreed. In fact I am not sure there's anything you can say "women" aren't into in the same way you can't say there are things "men" aren't into, because you can't lump people into two distinct and generic groups!
Eliseharris 5 months ago