I always laugh at people who have degrees in theology and I can't help it. It's like having a degree in the Harry Potter novels or a PhD in Gulliver's Travels.
To pretend that the film didnt intentially poke fun at Christ, as Clees said, is ingenuous.Ridicule it certainly was.... whatever your feelings about religion, or comedy. Does he seriously think the watcher cannot see this ?
@PrimitiveChrome Oh more than once old chap. But despite a few afficiondos rolling in the aisles many of their films suffered from a lack of.. well, humour really.
Home movies, frequently labouring a modest joke, over too long a time.
The only thing the Pythons got wrong is the simple fact Jesus probably never actually existed. Outside the gospels there is no evidence anywhere he ever lived.
@zapkvr "The only thing the Pythons got wrong is the simple fact Jesus probably never actually existed. Outside the gospels there is no evidence anywhere he ever lived."
If the Bishop and Malcolm Muggeridge are in heaven, and the Pythons are going to Hell, I intend to sin for the rest of my life so I can go to a preferable place when I die.
So funny watching this now, two sensible men being critisied by two old guys who believe in some invisible magic god thingy while one is dressed in some ridiculous purple frock haha.
@calumelliot No no no, haha! I meant why, of the 6 Pythons, Cleese and Palin in particular were chosen to participate in the debate as opposed to the other 4 - why they were chosen to represent Monty Python as a whole. For instance, was it decided that Cleese was the best-known of the team, and therefore a good choice to represent them? Was Palin considered slightly more likely to appear serious, so they chose him, too? I meant 'why Palin and Cleese as oppsed to the Terrys, Chapman, and Idle?'
@CCNuck What? Why would they get anyone else to represent them, they were part of it and aren't afraid of defending it. And I'm not sure what qualifications you think they need to have a debate. What qualifications did the other two have? An A in worshipping God?
Yeah I think that the Pythons believe in God, and that there was nothing blasphemous about the sketch. Religion is good when you understand the meaning not when you only have blind faith.
I'm in favour of the Pythons, I have seen the film several times and there is no actual offence to Jesus, apart from a group of people following Brian instead of Jesus. I think that religion, especially Christianity, need to lighten up and put on their non-religious heads before having a hissy fit and calling everyone heretics.
Jesus is seen in the film offering the sermon on the mount... and he is NOT Brian. The whole joke of the film is the fact Brian is NOT the Messiah. I'm not a Christian but I've always been very tolerant of them and had a healthy respect for them as, unlike the deranged members of the Cult of Islam, they've been so unshakeable in their faith that they've been able to take a joke and, as their prophet taught them, turned the other cheek. The Christians here are letting the side down, frankly.
Those figures of endless dogma would have been vanquished had Christopher Hitchens been there. Here it is and I say it.. God where are you? Billions of people suffering, Holocausts, witch burning.. Conclusion: He either doesn't give a shit or he isn't there.. Draw your own conclusions.
These two old farts are really funnier than some of the MP sketches. How is it that these people don't seem to realise that they are only making fools of themselves.
Look people, God has a great sense of humour.. i mean didn't he create us and what a total bunch of tossers we turned out to be so he's gotta laugh..eh!
Palin and Cleese are superb during this debate and Muggeridge and Stockwood come off as nothing but bullies delivering low blows and going for cheap laughs. I wish I'd been around during the 70s to form a pro LOB protest....after all God has a wonderful sense of humour - look at the platypus (thank you View Askew for that joke!!)
'this is such a tenth rate film it won't disturb anyone'
so that begs the question, why were they having such an issue with it? Why did they try to have it banned? Why were they having that discussion at all?
I'm sure that Stockwood and Muggeridge could be sceptical about the weapons of mass destruction, but could they deny Mary Tudor's motivation behind burning protestants? One of countless clear examples of blind faith leading to atrocity. That was the point of the film, and that can easily be proved.
It would have been funny to see this in court where the pythons/their lawyers could use facts and logic to tear the naysayer's arguments apart in a balanced setting, and, where the uninformed haters could be held to account for their inaccuracies and assumptions and comments about it's quality and cheap jabs could be shouted down by the judge.
I have just watched the BBC4 drama - funny, well acted...and a bit disturbing. But the most disturbing thing of all is that Life of Brian simply wouldn't be made today, not if it took the piss out of Muslims, anyway, as the original did out of Christians and Jews.
The world has grown less tolerant over the last 30 years. And that's a great comment, Huntervasser.
Oddly, I liked Muggeridge in his day. Life can be strange at times. Actually, he was a funny man.
@MegaGayjesus Well, thanks for that (I think). It taught me more about you than about Islam, I suspect, but freedom of speech is dear to my heart.......even when the words are not funny.
Incredible how much gravitas and pomposity the church leaders had in 1979
None of them would DARE come on TV and be that self-righteous and arrogant now because they know they represent a spent force
Muggerige was a cretin works of art in history were about Jesus not because its a meaningful episode to people but because the catholic church was so powerful they dictated what artists could and could not paint
Many of the great masters longed to stop painting Jesus but werent allowed to
The Bishop of Southwark was a pompous ass and a terrible snob. When I worked in BBC radio I rang him up one day to ask if he would agree to being interviewed on the phone about a news story. He refused. It would be beneath his dignity. He was much too high and mighty to be interviewed for radio on the phone. This was man who claimed to be Socialist and man of the people! Malcolm Muggeridge was equally foul - a man consumed by malice. He motto was 'Be more cruel.'
As a religious person who believes in Jesus, I am not at all offended by this film. I love Life of Brian and they really are respectful of the person of Jesus, it's the people who misunderstand Jesus that are being made fun of. If people actually took a minute to think about what's actually happening in the film, they would see that it's not offensive to Christianity at all.
Was talkin to Jesus thother nite and he said Brian was a hoot. Furthermore he revealed to me that mofos that didnt like it would be damned for eternity.
Malcolm Muggeridge was considered at the time, and is still considered by many people, to have been a great conservative christian thinker. He wrote for many conservative journals in the US and the UK and was a frequent guest on William F. Buckley's 'Firing Line'.
He exposes himself here as a pompous, humourless, condescending fogey - exactly the sort of upper-class establishment type the Pythons were so good at satirizing. If he had had any sense, he would have laughed rather than sneered.
I am a catholic and I love "Life of Brian", but I find that it is not a very offensive film for Christians. But also I´m sure that if someone did a film like this one about Mahoma the muslims would kill someone or something like that.
Are they sitting in Aberystwyth University? I mean, Terry Jones and Michael Palin, when they're discussing what happened on the debate? I got to Aber, and I recognize where they are I think.
@moppettshow Fair enough. Thought it was the library or arts center on campus. Only came to this conclusion because I know they made an appearence at Aber a couple of years ago. I missed it, annoyingly.
I thought christians were supposed to open minded, tolerant people that listen to other views and considers them, not like this dried up old arsehole of a bishop, I'm not usually so scathing of ecumenical people, but he deserves this, the film was a bit of fun, not the blasphemous filth that the bishop was trying to say it was. I know there was a big uproar about it at the time, my mum is a devout catholic but whilst she didn't approve of the film she still saw the funny side!
"Little squalid piece... won't affect anybody because it's so 10th rate..." If he was referring to the movie's merits as a comedy film then he was digging his own grave as Life of Brian is of course consistently ranked amongst the very best comedy movies ever made.
Feel good, religion is dying. everyday their hold on us is less, everyday their words mean less. we look to the light, they yearn for the darkness like a vampire......
@DanishPastry If you check out 'themontypythonmuseum' channel, there is a 25 min long version called 'Friday Night, Saturday Morning - Life of Brian'.
Once again religion trying to limit free speech. We need not look back any further than Galileo Galileo to see what religion will do when it has the power. I'm just glad we live in times where only the bewildered and unintelligent believe in the nonsense that is religion.
You can't excpect people that have devoted their lives to an invisible super being to have a rational discussion about humor related to their delusions. They cannot afford to allow the slightest derision against a very flimsy set of historical misconceptions and logical fallacies.
I'm a Christian and I absolutely love Life of Brian.Never once did i think that they were making fun of christians,Jesus,or christianity in the movie.
@OnkelStein I think you have missed the meaning of my comment - it was a joke. In the UK "Bashing the Bishop" is a euphemism for masterbation. Therefore, it was my small attempt at humour, not a defence of the clergy.
It is SO wrong when peope are offended by a couple of jokes about their beliefs. i'm an atheist, and i'm aware atheism is, in it's way, a belief, and I honestly don't give a crap about any joke on it. If they made a comedy on atheism as good as "life of brian", i'd go and see it and laugh my head off. But if you're making a joke that's remotely close to Jesus, well then 'you gonna burn in hell for all eternity' and your movie should be banned! that's the crap that ruled during the dark ages
@S1rJoso Whilst at the same time, we should be allowed to insult Muslims by slandering Muhammed, in the name of free speech?
This is the thing which I can't understand. Why people object so fiercely when THEIR prophet is perceived to be ridiculed/mocked/satirised, but won't hesitate to call Muslims 'paedophile worshippers' or something similar. It's such two-faced arrogance.
I can understand it though, as they believe their version of holy 'truth' is right, and others are wrong or even evil.
@57worldwide christians bitching about making fun of Jesus or muslims bitching about making fun of muhammed, it's all the same. People should be able to not get all warmed up if their beliefs are made fun of, specially if they laugh at other peoples' beliefs, as you well said
@S1rJoso I saw an Eddie Griffin stand up act on YouTube yesterday, called 'You can tell em I said it'. It was great.
I think it all boils down to what I stated last, being people believe their belief is the truth and only possibility. Not that all people believe their belief is true, but religious (and some spiritual) folk seem to think their adopted concept is right.
As Karl Popper said, 'No rational argument will have a rational effect on a man who does not want to adopt a rational attitude.'
Wikipedia article on Muggeridge says: He was contemptuous of fellow countrymen the Beatles. In a 1968 article in Esquire magazine, he called them "four vacant youths... dummy figures with tousled heads (and) no talent." Good at spotting talent then... It also says he admitted to having "no sense of humour", which might be a drawback in assessing the merits of Life of Brian.
Why do they have retard priests on this show? Religion isn't something to be debated due to the simple fact that they just make this crap up. There is NO debate. Freaking retards.
You do tend to forget to add these things when you're old and senile. Sorry, did I say old and senile? I meant old, bigoted and senile- three points.
Mervyn Stockwood, the Anglican bishop of Southwark, was a socialist, the friend of many radical theologians, and an advocate of homosexual rights (he was himself discreetly but semi-openly homosexual). I think that this video rather distorts the image of who Palin and Cleese were up against in that TV debate.
Us older folk remember the days when men of religion were always called in to chat shows to give the moral, Christian perspective on almost every issue. But they are not invited anymore. No one cares what they think now. But you can see in this clip, from 1979, how stuffed with self-importance and delusions of grandeur they were back then. Imagine appearing on TV in those preposterous robes and laying your prejudices out with such garrish indifference! No longer!
It may be too late for Pythons to remedy this but in present day climate they should have done "Life of Muhmad" (Muhmad is spelled this way on purpose) just to see how many laughs could be produced out of that one!
Christian sense of humor is tested every day so why not spread it around a bit. Themes are abounding: Something from gulag perhaps? Or may be a musical on the Aushwitz Central Paltz?
I always laugh at people who have degrees in theology and I can't help it. It's like having a degree in the Harry Potter novels or a PhD in Gulliver's Travels.
MrSelidor7 2 days ago
Does anyone know what documentary this has been taken from? I really need it for an essay.
JackHutch1992 4 days ago
Those religious guys are dead huh? Shame, I'd love to see Dawkins rip into them.
TheOrangeFondler 1 week ago
If anyone's noticed this yet, DAVID TENNANT IS NARRATING!
trainchugger53 2 weeks ago
To be honest, nothing has changed in religious angst against anything in the contemporary society.
Tenebrous76 2 weeks ago
To pretend that the film didnt intentially poke fun at Christ, as Clees said, is ingenuous.Ridicule it certainly was.... whatever your feelings about religion, or comedy. Does he seriously think the watcher cannot see this ?
AndyHarpist 3 weeks ago
@AndyHarpist So, you haven't actually watched the film then.
PrimitiveChrome 3 weeks ago
@PrimitiveChrome Oh more than once old chap. But despite a few afficiondos rolling in the aisles many of their films suffered from a lack of.. well, humour really.
Home movies, frequently labouring a modest joke, over too long a time.
AndyHarpist 3 weeks ago
@AndyHarpist I think the poke is on christians, not christ.
excelente81 3 weeks ago
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Semantics, my dear friend
AndyHarpist 1 week ago
I just love the fact they those god guys call it tenth rate yet it is still watched and loved by people today 30 years later.
LurchibaldBioshock 3 weeks ago 3
The only thing the Pythons got wrong is the simple fact Jesus probably never actually existed. Outside the gospels there is no evidence anywhere he ever lived.
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@zapkvr "The only thing the Pythons got wrong is the simple fact Jesus probably never actually existed. Outside the gospels there is no evidence anywhere he ever lived."
this +1.
Rabsputin 3 weeks ago
If the Bishop and Malcolm Muggeridge are in heaven, and the Pythons are going to Hell, I intend to sin for the rest of my life so I can go to a preferable place when I die.
AlexisCapri 1 month ago 12
@AlexisCapri
eternity with the likes of the Bishop and Malcolm Muggeridge would be hell.
Tenebrous76 2 weeks ago 2
the bishop looks like Bilbo Baggins
Feitanyo 1 month ago 8
Bishop: i am familiar with undergraduate humour.
Palin: and i am a big fan of fairytales and primitive beliefs.
breasthound 1 month ago
Does anyone have a transcript or subtitles? In the language of English, please contact us at meil dyblus@tlen.pl
dirtyszok 1 month ago
A load of people on crosses singing a musichall song is now popular culture.
Washu1973 1 month ago
So funny watching this now, two sensible men being critisied by two old guys who believe in some invisible magic god thingy while one is dressed in some ridiculous purple frock haha.
It is like an actual Monty Python sketch
forfar4fife5 1 month ago
Fuck religion. Monty python rules.
Hetaliagirl96 1 month ago
On that bishop, they should have reprised one of their previous bits...."The Bishop"!
OR
Had the three robed priests come out and yell "No one expects the Spanish Inquisition"!
dancinkindofguy 1 month ago
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@calumelliot No no no, haha! I meant why, of the 6 Pythons, Cleese and Palin in particular were chosen to participate in the debate as opposed to the other 4 - why they were chosen to represent Monty Python as a whole. For instance, was it decided that Cleese was the best-known of the team, and therefore a good choice to represent them? Was Palin considered slightly more likely to appear serious, so they chose him, too? I meant 'why Palin and Cleese as oppsed to the Terrys, Chapman, and Idle?'
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CCNuck 1 month ago
Does anyone know why the Pythons chose Cleese and Palin to represent them in the debate? What particular qualifications they decided they had?
CCNuck 1 month ago
@CCNuck What? Why would they get anyone else to represent them, they were part of it and aren't afraid of defending it. And I'm not sure what qualifications you think they need to have a debate. What qualifications did the other two have? An A in worshipping God?
calumelliott 1 month ago
Awwwwww, Palin looks so stinking upset.
CCNuck 1 month ago
Yeah I think that the Pythons believe in God, and that there was nothing blasphemous about the sketch. Religion is good when you understand the meaning not when you only have blind faith.
dnck1985 1 month ago
Is that David tennant commentating or am I going mental?
doctortehe 2 months ago
in the long run the pythons won the debate
MartianSanta 2 months ago 3
It's worse than that . . .
It's minds they're after !
Silvergoldstarfish 2 months ago
Religious leaders don’t want people thinking for them self’s. They will lose the power and control over all that lovely money.
kacplaymyst 2 months ago
I'm in favour of the Pythons, I have seen the film several times and there is no actual offence to Jesus, apart from a group of people following Brian instead of Jesus. I think that religion, especially Christianity, need to lighten up and put on their non-religious heads before having a hissy fit and calling everyone heretics.
simon22908 2 months ago
@HigherPoker That may well the the best explanation to the whole thing i have read in years gona borrow that one for sure fits me perfectly
canpan87 2 months ago
Just watched it
V v funny
JC !
Silvergoldstarfish 2 months ago
Look up the "Not the Nine O'Clock News" parody of this debate. "Life of Python". Hilarious.
digitaurus 2 months ago
Just watched the whole thing. How thick can people be!!!!
kavtoM 2 months ago
Society is very confused
If someone thinks he Jesus they lock him up ASAP . . .
So where is the belief really ?
The whole thing is hollow - there is nothing of substance underpinning it
Hence you can do wot the smeg u like
Just so long as u repent !
Silvergoldstarfish 2 months ago
Jesus is seen in the film offering the sermon on the mount... and he is NOT Brian. The whole joke of the film is the fact Brian is NOT the Messiah. I'm not a Christian but I've always been very tolerant of them and had a healthy respect for them as, unlike the deranged members of the Cult of Islam, they've been so unshakeable in their faith that they've been able to take a joke and, as their prophet taught them, turned the other cheek. The Christians here are letting the side down, frankly.
GhibliFan1 2 months ago
Those figures of endless dogma would have been vanquished had Christopher Hitchens been there. Here it is and I say it.. God where are you? Billions of people suffering, Holocausts, witch burning.. Conclusion: He either doesn't give a shit or he isn't there.. Draw your own conclusions.
TheMotherEagle 2 months ago
Cleese summed it up at the end.
Ali74 2 months ago
this movie was very good ,I love it and English is no first language but I was easy to understand and this comedy was great
Autria3000 2 months ago
Why do you all think this is a debate of Atheism vs. Religion?
This is a debate of Funny Religous Comedey vs. Boring People
I am Christian, and I have no quarrel with the Life of Brian.
I agree with Python completely here.
Also, Atheism at no point enters into this debate/discussion.
HerrJohann72 2 months ago
Malcolm Muggeridge. Mervyn Stockwood. Very tinny sort of names! :P
azapro911 2 months ago 3
Did ya know Mervyn Stockwood was a celebrate gay bishop?
theindiekidable 2 months ago
They are actually wrong with saying that there's nothing to ridicule in Jesus' life. The whole Jesus myth is ridiculous.
MomoTheBellyDancer 2 months ago
Religion would be alright if there weren't any religious people.
bongolongo 2 months ago
2:33 a musical song ? what a dumbass
AlbertFisher119 2 months ago
This film broke thru a lot of taboos that you can't ridicule religion just like anything else.
Lennon4ever1 2 months ago
Yeah . . . war death famine poverty injustice torture genocide holocaust tyranny . . .
God you are just a laugh and a half aren't you . . .
Freud was right religiosity is really infantilism which fails to face up to the reality of the world.
Moon god sun god any god . . . A mere psychological projection based on fear and ignorance.
Silvergoldstarfish 2 months ago
Jesus is Monty Python.
trustinstinct 2 months ago
Monty Python the greatest comedy troupe in British history.
trustinstinct 2 months ago
Omg is that David Tennant?
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These two old farts are really funnier than some of the MP sketches. How is it that these people don't seem to realise that they are only making fools of themselves.
JimTLonW6 2 months ago 2
Bishop is so arrogant makes me feel a little nauseous
Silvergoldstarfish 3 months ago
I remember this one
MsOneiroi77 3 months ago
David Tennant FTW
towrofterra 3 months ago
One day, we will see the Mahomet Caricature controversy with the same distance.
MenwithHill 3 months ago
@MenwithHill not before an Islamic reformation you wont they'll all go mental till they open up their minds to criticism
MsOneiroi77 3 months ago
What absolute two old cunts they are debating with. They have so sense of humor - whatsoever.
MrMetallidude 3 months ago
i love the way muggeridge and the bishop talk down to them and they just laugh at them
hulmedogcity 3 months ago
I'm studying 'Life of Brian' in film studies. The same day we watched the film in class, this documentry was on BBC four. COINCIDENCE?
Intoxicated95 3 months ago
@Intoxicated95 Must have been god.
Just like when god heals someone from a "terminal" disease but somehow fails to cure the millions who happen to die from the same disease.
baldurus1 3 months ago
Look people, God has a great sense of humour.. i mean didn't he create us and what a total bunch of tossers we turned out to be so he's gotta laugh..eh!
teamfab 3 months ago
the movie is genius, i love jesus and this is one of my favourite films. anyone that doesn't get it is seriously wrong
es78xx 3 months ago
I've never seen Michael Palin so angry. Wow.
Eveoman 3 months ago
somehow that bishop looks like an actor out of a monty python film, or like ian holm playing a cynical bishop -- this is a vicious mf
MoveOverCasanova 3 months ago
Why are these religious bods so very pompous ?
Jesus was supposed to be humble . . .
They should try a bit of life before death !
Silvergoldstarfish 3 months ago
Palin and Cleese are superb during this debate and Muggeridge and Stockwood come off as nothing but bullies delivering low blows and going for cheap laughs. I wish I'd been around during the 70s to form a pro LOB protest....after all God has a wonderful sense of humour - look at the platypus (thank you View Askew for that joke!!)
welshcherry 3 months ago 2
'this is such a tenth rate film it won't disturb anyone'
so that begs the question, why were they having such an issue with it? Why did they try to have it banned? Why were they having that discussion at all?
They're lying through their beaks.
viridismonasteriense 3 months ago
They're taking this whole religion thing a bit seriously aren't they Ted? I mean it's only a bit of a laugh - Father Dougal Maguire
MontgomeryWinchester 3 months ago 23
@MontgomeryWinchester They re almost as mad as that thing you ve told me about the loafs and the fishes.
santajimi 1 month ago
"all that monty python have done is made one of the greatest movies of all time..."
davycrocketful 3 months ago
I'm sure that Stockwood and Muggeridge could be sceptical about the weapons of mass destruction, but could they deny Mary Tudor's motivation behind burning protestants? One of countless clear examples of blind faith leading to atrocity. That was the point of the film, and that can easily be proved.
organaphus 3 months ago
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it's ok to give up now christians, no one believes anything you say anymore as there has been no rapture,
fairyheli2 3 months ago
It would have been funny to see this in court where the pythons/their lawyers could use facts and logic to tear the naysayer's arguments apart in a balanced setting, and, where the uninformed haters could be held to account for their inaccuracies and assumptions and comments about it's quality and cheap jabs could be shouted down by the judge.
rhemorigher 3 months ago
that bishop and his monkey are absolute cunts
eternalcrumpet 3 months ago 12
Gawd almighty, this is funny. These old coots have gone so deep with literalist christianity, they think it was all real. It's all myth.
MrLuigiFercotti 3 months ago
He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy.
spangleandmarmite 3 months ago
Cleese and Palin = Alive.
Muggeridge and the bishop = Dead.
1 - 0 to the Pythons.
Where's your God now!?
ralphlundun 3 months ago 38
@ralphlundun What!? You mean? They have fallen down the curtain? Joined the choir invisible?
O_O
...
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...I want a refund.
KungfuCow5 2 months ago
I am not religious at all
But for Cleese to say they were 'taking it all seriously' is . . . Well a joke
Life of B was a complete send up & very funny
And that's the point
Thought the 2 religious bods were completely miserable - rude and aggressive even
Silvergoldstarfish 3 months ago
Life of Brian was banned in the Republic of Ireland until 2000, just shows you the power the catholic church had
MrSean677 3 months ago
I have just watched the BBC4 drama - funny, well acted...and a bit disturbing. But the most disturbing thing of all is that Life of Brian simply wouldn't be made today, not if it took the piss out of Muslims, anyway, as the original did out of Christians and Jews.
The world has grown less tolerant over the last 30 years. And that's a great comment, Huntervasser.
Oddly, I liked Muggeridge in his day. Life can be strange at times. Actually, he was a funny man.
dwm1943 3 months ago 2
@dwm1943 You may like to take a look at "Birth of Moohamhead" it is on my favourites.
MegaGayjesus 3 months ago
@MegaGayjesus Well, thanks for that (I think). It taught me more about you than about Islam, I suspect, but freedom of speech is dear to my heart.......even when the words are not funny.
dwm1943 3 months ago
@dwm1943 Good I am am glad you support freedom of speech, "Birth of Moohamhead" is just that!
MegaGayjesus 3 months ago
@dwm1943 I also trust that it would teach you something about Islam.
MegaGayjesus 3 months ago
High C of E / Catholic alterboy fuckers
iBeep2009 3 months ago
.."Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings"..
118Huntervasser 3 months ago 3
Muggeridge lives up to the first three first letters of his surname...
organaphus 3 months ago 2
the bbc 4 drama last night really nailed this bit
marketgarden30 3 months ago 31
@marketgarden30 Apart from when Palin smashed the bishop in the face with a water jug.
TheOLAMOur 2 months ago
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@marketgarden30 the bbc 4 drama last night really nailed this bit
ozipk 1 month ago
Life of Brian is one of the greatest comedy films of all time, Muggeridge and Stockwood just made themselves appear to complete pricks
gavinellis 3 months ago 7
Incredible how much gravitas and pomposity the church leaders had in 1979
None of them would DARE come on TV and be that self-righteous and arrogant now because they know they represent a spent force
Muggerige was a cretin works of art in history were about Jesus not because its a meaningful episode to people but because the catholic church was so powerful they dictated what artists could and could not paint
Many of the great masters longed to stop painting Jesus but werent allowed to
grai 3 months ago 3
The Labour Council in Hull banned the film, had to go to Tory Bridlington to see it!!
beefheart1949 3 months ago 2
Wow , what cunts the bishops were.
outthereinit 3 months ago 3
haha i remember my grandad (a vicar) pissing himself at this film
Thepicturelamp 3 months ago 2
@HigherPoker you suffer from split personality?
CFNUN 3 months ago
ironically applying rational standards to the irrational was the basis for much of their humor:)
85jacob85 3 months ago
The Bishop of Southwark was a pompous ass and a terrible snob. When I worked in BBC radio I rang him up one day to ask if he would agree to being interviewed on the phone about a news story. He refused. It would be beneath his dignity. He was much too high and mighty to be interviewed for radio on the phone. This was man who claimed to be Socialist and man of the people! Malcolm Muggeridge was equally foul - a man consumed by malice. He motto was 'Be more cruel.'
rogergeorgeclark 3 months ago
Does anybody know what documentary this is taken from? I can hear Tennant as the narrator and I'd love to see the rest of it.
indy8149 3 months ago
@indy8149 Friday Night Saturday Morning, hosted by Tim Rice, 1979
Ilovemyoldguitar 3 months ago
As a religious person who believes in Jesus, I am not at all offended by this film. I love Life of Brian and they really are respectful of the person of Jesus, it's the people who misunderstand Jesus that are being made fun of. If people actually took a minute to think about what's actually happening in the film, they would see that it's not offensive to Christianity at all.
indy8149 3 months ago 5
fuck religious niggers. Fucking up everything in the society.
MJFAN666 3 months ago
the film is a classic , the two religious nut job any one every heard of them ? nope though not.
assym2006 3 months ago
Holy crap, I hear you, David Tennant. 8D
KrescenDoll 3 months ago
the name of the channel is atheist media blog lol
tlm19670 3 months ago
Malcom Muggeridge's relationship with reality really is a sight to behold.
LizbetNene 3 months ago
Was talkin to Jesus thother nite and he said Brian was a hoot. Furthermore he revealed to me that mofos that didnt like it would be damned for eternity.
doirevomba 3 months ago
intelligent religious morons - the funniest of the lot
little69111 4 months ago
Malcolm Muggeridge was considered at the time, and is still considered by many people, to have been a great conservative christian thinker. He wrote for many conservative journals in the US and the UK and was a frequent guest on William F. Buckley's 'Firing Line'.
He exposes himself here as a pompous, humourless, condescending fogey - exactly the sort of upper-class establishment type the Pythons were so good at satirizing. If he had had any sense, he would have laughed rather than sneered.
searcherboy 4 months ago
@searcherboy Yes he was apparently considered to be those things by many and he fooled many individuals...except God :-)
Con7ent 4 months ago
religion is a pile of shit, the only thing that matters is race!!
NORMANGODS 4 months ago
I am a catholic and I love "Life of Brian", but I find that it is not a very offensive film for Christians. But also I´m sure that if someone did a film like this one about Mahoma the muslims would kill someone or something like that.
SirBarzdevics 4 months ago 2
How come the bishop is familiar with undergraduate humour? I've always thought they prefer a somewhat younger generation.
cty01 4 months ago 2
Are they sitting in Aberystwyth University? I mean, Terry Jones and Michael Palin, when they're discussing what happened on the debate? I got to Aber, and I recognize where they are I think.
TheRandyChimp 4 months ago
@TheRandyChimp No, I believe it's the upstairs function room in The Dog and Duck, Rotherhithe. It had better lighting.
moppettshow 4 months ago
@moppettshow Fair enough. Thought it was the library or arts center on campus. Only came to this conclusion because I know they made an appearence at Aber a couple of years ago. I missed it, annoyingly.
TheRandyChimp 4 months ago
Thank God i saw the life of Brian and i must say that i love Brittish Comedy =D
RazielDArc 4 months ago
Religious bigot SLAM! KA-BOOM!
SirDanOfHell 4 months ago
he's not the messiah
thinkasecond 4 months ago
I thought christians were supposed to open minded, tolerant people that listen to other views and considers them, not like this dried up old arsehole of a bishop, I'm not usually so scathing of ecumenical people, but he deserves this, the film was a bit of fun, not the blasphemous filth that the bishop was trying to say it was. I know there was a big uproar about it at the time, my mum is a devout catholic but whilst she didn't approve of the film she still saw the funny side!
themanmaschine 4 months ago 2
Maybe that bishop should look on the bright side of life...
IIVDevilsMayCareVII 4 months ago 5
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free42dream 4 months ago
"Little squalid piece... won't affect anybody because it's so 10th rate..." If he was referring to the movie's merits as a comedy film then he was digging his own grave as Life of Brian is of course consistently ranked amongst the very best comedy movies ever made.
bodie9991 4 months ago 5
@bodie9991 and who now has heard of Malcom muggeridge? I'm 53 and I dont even know how to spell it
grai 3 months ago
Feel good, religion is dying. everyday their hold on us is less, everyday their words mean less. we look to the light, they yearn for the darkness like a vampire......
atheistdawn 4 months ago
Does anyone know where to find the full debate?
DanishPastry 4 months ago
@DanishPastry If you check out 'themontypythonmuseum' channel, there is a 25 min long version called 'Friday Night, Saturday Morning - Life of Brian'.
Sinnessa 4 months ago
Once again religion trying to limit free speech. We need not look back any further than Galileo Galileo to see what religion will do when it has the power. I'm just glad we live in times where only the bewildered and unintelligent believe in the nonsense that is religion.
Sinbad94CSD 4 months ago 2
im christian and km not offended by that movie!
MrElbenjo 4 months ago
Has anyone found the complete interview? I searched high and low but couldn't!
acouragefann 4 months ago
@acouragefann Yeah, seconded! I'd like to see it also. And Palin's & Jones' commentary on it as well hehehehe
WinstonSmith6079 3 months ago
You can't excpect people that have devoted their lives to an invisible super being to have a rational discussion about humor related to their delusions. They cannot afford to allow the slightest derision against a very flimsy set of historical misconceptions and logical fallacies.
TheSultan03 4 months ago 2
"On BBC 2, a debate on censorship between the Bishop of Bristol and a nude man."
bluenowait 4 months ago
I'm a Christian and I absolutely love Life of Brian.Never once did i think that they were making fun of christians,Jesus,or christianity in the movie.
frylok69 4 months ago 5
You really shouldn't bash the bishop on national TV.
gowestwood 4 months ago
@gowestwood Fuck the bishop. John Cleese and Michael Palin has brought alot more smiles to peoples faces than him, I can assure you..
OnkelStein 4 months ago
@OnkelStein To 'bash the bishop' means masturbate. ie. shouldn't masturbate on tv. XD
Toasty667 4 months ago
@OnkelStein I think you have missed the meaning of my comment - it was a joke. In the UK "Bashing the Bishop" is a euphemism for masterbation. Therefore, it was my small attempt at humour, not a defence of the clergy.
gowestwood 4 months ago
15 clergymen can't look on the bright side of life...
WatchVenusSpa 4 months ago
If your faith is so easily shaken by humor, perhaps you should rethink it.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 4 months ago 40
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH You sir, have given me my quote of the day. Thank you *tips hat to you*
onlysigurd 4 months ago
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Oceanus57 4 months ago
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Malcom Muggeridge was a snotty little prick. I'm glad he's dead.
Oceanus57 4 months ago
They're not the messiahs. They just very naughty boys.
Vraadrik 4 months ago 5
I know it's already been said but..... THE BISHOP!!!
Toasty667 4 months ago
Well, Palin was a historian, so I think he was most likely atheist
pirroize 5 months ago
Goes to show how much religion has been losing in society only in the last 30 years
KamasutraButterfly 5 months ago
It is SO wrong when peope are offended by a couple of jokes about their beliefs. i'm an atheist, and i'm aware atheism is, in it's way, a belief, and I honestly don't give a crap about any joke on it. If they made a comedy on atheism as good as "life of brian", i'd go and see it and laugh my head off. But if you're making a joke that's remotely close to Jesus, well then 'you gonna burn in hell for all eternity' and your movie should be banned! that's the crap that ruled during the dark ages
S1rJoso 5 months ago
@S1rJoso Whilst at the same time, we should be allowed to insult Muslims by slandering Muhammed, in the name of free speech?
This is the thing which I can't understand. Why people object so fiercely when THEIR prophet is perceived to be ridiculed/mocked/satirised, but won't hesitate to call Muslims 'paedophile worshippers' or something similar. It's such two-faced arrogance.
I can understand it though, as they believe their version of holy 'truth' is right, and others are wrong or even evil.
57worldwide 4 months ago
@57worldwide christians bitching about making fun of Jesus or muslims bitching about making fun of muhammed, it's all the same. People should be able to not get all warmed up if their beliefs are made fun of, specially if they laugh at other peoples' beliefs, as you well said
S1rJoso 4 months ago 2
@S1rJoso I saw an Eddie Griffin stand up act on YouTube yesterday, called 'You can tell em I said it'. It was great.
I think it all boils down to what I stated last, being people believe their belief is the truth and only possibility. Not that all people believe their belief is true, but religious (and some spiritual) folk seem to think their adopted concept is right.
As Karl Popper said, 'No rational argument will have a rational effect on a man who does not want to adopt a rational attitude.'
57worldwide 4 months ago
Wikipedia article on Muggeridge says: He was contemptuous of fellow countrymen the Beatles. In a 1968 article in Esquire magazine, he called them "four vacant youths... dummy figures with tousled heads (and) no talent." Good at spotting talent then... It also says he admitted to having "no sense of humour", which might be a drawback in assessing the merits of Life of Brian.
oliveranthonyrowland 5 months ago 5
Why do they have retard priests on this show? Religion isn't something to be debated due to the simple fact that they just make this crap up. There is NO debate. Freaking retards.
harrylarry68 5 months ago 3
Doctor Who talking about the Pythons intellectually owning some Christians.
I think I'm in paradise!
TheOmegajuice 5 months ago 6
I THINK MONTY PYTON TOOK THE PISS ON THIS FILM AND AGAIN ON THIS SHOW... THEY WERE CLASSIC......
fairhillnorrie 5 months ago
The Bishop!
unclebud99 5 months ago 3
1:19 The gayness always reveals itself doesn't it?
2eelShmeal 5 months ago 60
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2eelShmeal 5 months ago
There should be a second part to this video. The debate seems really interesting to be cut this way.
faren31 5 months ago 2
Anyone else thinks the Bishop looks like Bilbo Baggins (Ian Holm) when he got older in Rivendell? 0:21
lordmordo 5 months ago 3
Jesus was the first homosexual porn star. Fact.
mheslop 5 months ago
@mheslop He also moonlighted as a stripper on weekends. True story
zzyzx0788 5 months ago
It certainly was a tenth rate film... in mod 9.
You do tend to forget to add these things when you're old and senile. Sorry, did I say old and senile? I meant old, bigoted and senile- three points.
yasiru89 5 months ago
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yasiru89 5 months ago
Mervyn Stockwood, the Anglican bishop of Southwark, was a socialist, the friend of many radical theologians, and an advocate of homosexual rights (he was himself discreetly but semi-openly homosexual). I think that this video rather distorts the image of who Palin and Cleese were up against in that TV debate.
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MRafh979 6 months ago
Us older folk remember the days when men of religion were always called in to chat shows to give the moral, Christian perspective on almost every issue. But they are not invited anymore. No one cares what they think now. But you can see in this clip, from 1979, how stuffed with self-importance and delusions of grandeur they were back then. Imagine appearing on TV in those preposterous robes and laying your prejudices out with such garrish indifference! No longer!
garethb1961 6 months ago 3
It may be too late for Pythons to remedy this but in present day climate they should have done "Life of Muhmad" (Muhmad is spelled this way on purpose) just to see how many laughs could be produced out of that one!
Christian sense of humor is tested every day so why not spread it around a bit. Themes are abounding: Something from gulag perhaps? Or may be a musical on the Aushwitz Central Paltz?
hetmanbasza 6 months ago
Life of Brian is in fact a very funny, but also a very clever movie, one of the best comedies ever written.
liprandi 6 months ago 4
i'd love to see the full interview instead of just a couple of clips shown here, does anyone have a link?