Confusing, yes, even to the Luftwaffe. The "ME" prefix began in 1939 under direction of Messerschmitt AG. All aircraft manufactured prior used the "BF" prefix.
Depending on the laws in the country where the plane is registered, gun installations may be prohibited. Typically the guns must be demilled or made inoperative with firing pins removed or a plug welded into the barrel. Replica guns may also be used. It's not legal to fly with operational guns. For airshow entertainment, some planes used to fly with propane "machine guns" to make some noise, but I've never seen them in action. NZ may have had live fire shows.
@TheMuffdivr it's "Flieger", not "Fleiger", IE instead of EI. ;) although, if you are english-speaking, you should PRONOUNCE both words like "Fleiger sind Seiger" or even "Fleeger sind Seeger".
for any non-german speakers: it means "Flyers"(Pilots) are "Winners".
Shame alot of people say just because its German it's shit etc, I mean don't get me wrong, the Spitfire is a beaut! and the Underated Hurricane is too! but I'd so much rather see this fly for excitement reasons!
@MARINECORPS1251 So soo true! my apologies! The Mustang too is also one of my favourites, has to be the P51-D Ferocious Frankie from the old flying company located at Duxford!
Designed in 1935, and 10 years later - after some of the most rapid advancement in aircraft technology - could STILL fly and fight on even terms with the best its enemies could throw at it. A magnificent design - pity it served perhaps the most evil regime in history.
The Spitfire was one hell of a plane, and it outgunned the BF 109 in some areas due to the fact that it was designed much later, however the Daimler-Benz 605 inverted v-12 just sound evil and nasty at full throttle. Really throaty...just saying
@vr6ist ...The spit wasn't designed much later both were designed in the mid 30's both saw service before WW11..........however the Spit was able to be modified to the extent that that the Spit XIV was as good as any other fighter late in the war. But the ultimate Bf109 was probably the Bf109F...introduced in 1941.......pilots who flew the 109G considered it inferior to the F even though it was faster.
All of the Luftwaffe planes of WW2 seem to have a leathal, almost sinister, beauty to them. The proverbial devil in the red dress, but in this case, grey dapple. :)
When it comes to cars I love American cars & German cars equally. That is, I;m just as much of a fan of classic GM cars as I am of Mercedes Benz & BMW cars / trucks. But when it comes to WWII aircraft my favorite is the Bf-109, no question! The Mustang is over rated & as great as the Merlin motor is, the supercharger whistle & exotic inverted V12 layout of the DB601 / DB605 is far more awesome.
I agree. In a few more years when other aircraft projects are complete, we will hopefully get to hear if the Jumo 213 can also make such lovely music.
Benz made their Engines?. Thank you for info. so far I was thinking it was Volks Wagon. By the way the tip of the wings should not be square vs round? Looks like the wings are from another airplanes. Please explain. (So I was right about the sound of the engines?)Thanks.
@healer378 These are later model 109's. Both F and G models had round wing tips. The E model and earlier had the squared off wings that you are thinking of. Hope this helps.
@xraidedlok they had awesome tanks too, and rockets, and jets, and soldiers, and submarines, and dive bombers, and heavy bombers... but.... FUCK THE IDEOLOGY!
@Hussarer ahhaahhahaaha yeah they were fucking GENIUS!!!!!!!!. one of the greatest leaders ever. beside the whole genocide thing.. damn its insane what technology they had and how they got their resources.. have you ever seen that Landkreuzer P. 1000 Ratte... look it up woulda loved to see that
@928CATT The best fighter was the ME262 Jet......The best piston driven bird was the TA152.....and.....The best dual engine one was the HE219.... Overwhelming Allied air superiority due to mass production,available materials,and prompt competent large scale pilot training overshadowed any chance these Luftwaffe aircraft may have had to prove their capabilities in impact.....The best aircraft the allies had hands down was the P47 T-Bolt..It "cleared" the skies essentially before the Mustang came
@928CATT god, I'm so sick of everyone saying that the P-51 is he best
not saying anything bad about them, they were innovative, superior and far better than other, but to say that they were the best in WW2 is just plain stupid...
there were tons of other aircraft that did much more than these in the war, just from America... not to mention legendary aircraft from both axis and allies sides
@928CATT That is simply not true. In their memoirs many finnish fighter aces considered russian LA-5 and JAK-9 as more dangerous opponents than (lend & lease) P-51s and Spitfires.
The aircraft designer Bayerische Flugzeugwerke AG was reorganized in 1938 as Messerschmitt AG and all new aircraft were directed to carry the ME prefix. Both BF and ME continued to be acceptable terms for the aircraft during the war by both the Germans and Allies.
Five total are airworthy worldwide. Two E models in North America restored from wreckage and three G models in Germany at EADS rebuilt from Spanish HA-1112 airframes and a mixture of original parts. A handful of restoration projects are continuing for flight, but are slow due to rare parts and money. Close to 70 exist as either stored wreckage or partial wreckage, awaiting restoration, or museum display.
Black 6 is on permanent museum display at RAF Hendon. After restoration it was planned to fly for short time and then retire for museum display as a rare original. It had a landing accident on the final flight, but was repaired and placed in the museum. Black 6 was repainted for part of the filming for this video series, so there are really only 2 Me109s in this video.
I really don't think these have the original engines in them because Volks Wagon don't built them anymore nor has the parts. Engine sounded more like a British Spitfire not the real thing. I don't know what they have put inside these but outside looked original. Very scary to fly these.
wow, how rare is this!!!!! two of em, i cant believe my eyes!!! what is the difference in models with the retractable tail wheel, can someone tell me??
The tall tailwheel was a modification for some G10 and later versions to improve forward visibility and to reduce load pressures on the main landing gear. This G10 is rebuilt from original parts and a post-war Spanish HA-1112 airframe. The other short tailwheel example is a fully WWII original G-2/Trop (painted in two color schemes) which no longer flies and is on permanent museum display.
@FiveCentsPlease thank you for clearing that little one up. now then, the nxt question. why is is the other beauty no longer flying? i find that very sad. what beautiful warbirds they are. they look so purposeful dont they??
The G-2/Trop in desert colors was an intact example captured in North Africa and was the first WWII original Me109 slowly restored to flying condition over 20 years. The original plan was to fly it for a few years and then put it on permanent display as an original. (Although some wish it would still fly.) It also flipped over on landing on it's last scheduled flight, but was repaired before going on museum display.
There's reason in the madness: They were designed that way in order to be able to remove an entire wing while still having the landing gear intact. In other words: the pilot could park a hit plane, they could swap the right wing while still parked, plane then ready to take off while damaged wing being fixed. Pretty decent engineering...
@elmerexpress The landing gear is attached to the wing, well past the root. If the wing is removed at it's root, so is the landing gear. If a wing is removed, the a/c will not stand on it's own. Not following your explaination here.
Wrong, and you can easily find photos to show this. The landing gear it attached at the bulkhead forward of the cockpit, which is the same bulkhead where the engine mounts are found. The wings can be removed and the fuselage can rest on the extended gear.
@FiveCentsPlease Now I see where I was stuck. You're refering to removing ONE wing at a time, while the a/c rests normally on its extended landing gear, right? The gear's sharp angle is what's needed to have it in position to be mounted to the bulkhead in question, correct? Or if it were straight, #1 landing with such a tight c/g would be difficult as hell, and #2, They'd be wing mounted, and could penetrate the wings during a particularly rough landing.
@jonesy97 Gotcha! Sorry for the mix-up, and thanks for the info. I've loved this aircraft, and WWII aviation since I was 6 or 7 years old. It never gets old. Would love to see one close up, and see those details, like you mentioned. Hats off to ya!
Both wings can be removed and the fuselage can rest on the extended gear. Look for photos of Red 7 under repair. The 109 was notorious for poor ground tracking because of the landing gear position, particularly during tail-up just before take off and during landing. Combine this with the torque-effects for all of these fighters with big props and high-powered engines. Wide-track landing gear is more forgiving.
I have been explained that the gear is indeed attached to the fuselage, so that when the gear folds up, it does so outwards from the fuselage and are then enclosed in the wing, thus the wing detachable. In contrast, f. ex. the Spitfire and most others fold the landing gear inwards. Gain: a lot better stability during t.o./ landing, but more cumbersome if a wing has to be replaced. I do not have precise technical descriptions on this. If you do, I'd be interested in hearing from you...
@elmerexpress I got it. It was a misunderstanding on my part, about the linkage of the root of the gear leg. I got it now. If you're looking for technical specs, ask the guy below, fivecentsplease.
The Spitfire gear retracts outward like the Me109, but the Spit gear is attached to the wing. The Me109 design eliminated weight, with much of the load-bearing structure centered on the main bulkhead in front of the cockpit with the engine mounts and gear mounts. A consequence of that is narrow landing gear and poor handling. Inward retracting landing gear spaced further apart distributed aircraft weight differently, but more load-bearing points made the plane heavier. Cont....
The wider gear made handling easier, but all of these fighters still suffered from the torque-effects of the huge prop and engine regardless of the gear placement. A benefit of the Me109 landing gear mounting allowed the wings to be removed with the fuselage left free-standing.
Sorry, but recent research found out that the death toll at Dresden was 4 or 5 thousand. To be sure, that is a large number of people who perished, but say these words to yourself (repeat if necessary). This is something to say if you start feeling sorry for the citizens of Nagasaki and Hiroshima ... wait for it ... 'THEY started it!"
Flipped over on landing during the final flight before retirement to museum display, but not written off. Repaired and now on permanent static display as original.
does anyone else thinks that after Korea, the real air combat ended? i mean, an air force with great pilots with lame aircraft would loose, back then the result of a dogfight relied more in the pilots, i mean, look at italy, even with those Fiat G50 with the lamest engine ever were able to shoot down some spits and hurris, just saying
Sheer beauty These are fantastic planes and deserve their place in History. I bought a drawing of Black 13 which was Gunther Rall's ME 109. By then Mr Rall has passed away but it is signed by the artist and Mr Eric Rhudorfer who was also a WWll German air ace with over 200 kills. You have to admire these men and their flying skills
It's nice to see these old planes still flying. They form a part of world history in aviation and war. There were some brilliant pilots about during the war, pilots from all sides and each one with their own vital part that they played. The war's over now. That was a long time ago. The men who filled the skies then are growing smaller by the day. They deserve the glory they got They deserve to be remembered without hatred.
you cant beat the sound the 4 merlin engines on a lancaster tho, but this is a awesome plane. Definetly 1 of the best planes, along with the spitfire,hawker hurricane, avro lancaster, messerschmitt, focke wulf, dakota C47 and Republic Thunderbolt
yeah the RR Merlin sounds good was and is a wonderful piston engine...but c´mon it sounds like an Allision, an Klimow or or or..it has no inverted cylinders design....thats why a Harley Davidson sounds as it is....the Merlin sounds like a powerful, mighty and superior engine..but the hype about it is really overacted.
Dont get me wrong..I love the Spit and all other Merlin-equipped planes...but not the engine makes the success..its the pilot, the airframe and than the engine
It was more than just decoration. It's debated whether is was another means of friend/foe identification in combat or to create an optical illusion to throw off the aim of Allied gunners. The Luftwaffe did use bright colors (such as yellow) as a tactical color for quick identification, especially to ground gunners. Staffel colors were used on the numbers and sometimes the spinner color.
@evildeathmonkey1: Modern jet aircraft have the spinners painted with a spiral design to alert ground personnel that the engine is running, and to deter birdstrikes.
I agree...It's just odd that Germany, itself, has outlawed any visual or scripted reference to the Nazi symbol. I find the former WWII Nazi machines of war, both instructive, and very important historical archives...
In my opinion, best plane of the war. Fine i mean as in how great it was because you got the mustang coming in at the end but me109, my favourite plane
Like it or not,this plane is a part of history. It should be charished to remind us of what went down from 1938-1945. It is also one of the best fighters ever built. I for one am glad to see this beautiful piece of history flying in the skies once again. I just wish it would fly its way to rhode island for the airshow here just once.
The Bf 109 was one of the finest fighters of WWII - many German aces actually prefered the 109G over the Focke Wulf 190A as it had a better climb rate at any altitude and a higher top speed at high altitiude.
The 109 also had the advantage of leading edge wing slats which gave it an excellent turning circle at speeds just above the stall.
Equal to the Spitfire Mks I through Vb, it was only finally outclassed by the up-engined Spitfire MkIX in all respects except for the initial dive speed.
Ya i dont know. Gotta seperate the humans from the machines. I am jewish and I personally think the Messerschmitts are some of the coolest looking planes ever designed. I have a few models of them actually
I see that there are a couple of Me109 wrecks that have found their way to Australia. (Perhaps sold again to other buyers.) There was an E model and a G-6 wreck. Do you have any other specific info? Was it a Buchon wreck?
There is also the famous Australian War Memorial Me109, in original WWII paint, that was blocked from export back in the late 70s or early 80s.
Nothing other than the name change when the company was reorganized in 1939 into Messerschmitt AG and directed all new airframes to have the ME type name. Both terms continued to be used.
@fjbutch I love them, I don't care what side they are on! They were incredible machines! The ME Designation was applied to later fighters such as the Me-110, and some 109s built late on by a particular manufacturer, but in the 109s case the Bf designation is the more correct one!
Aircraft builder Bayerische Flugzeugwerke AG was renamed Messerschmitt AG in 1938, with designer Willy Messerschmitt named as director. All new aircraft were directed to have the ME prefix. The Bf109 was originally designed and build by Bayerische Flugzeugwerke with the BF prefix, with newer models adopting the ME designation. Both terms continued to be used interchangeably throughout the war.
@FiveCentsPlease True, but "All extant airframes bear the official "Bf 109" designation on their identification plates, including the final K-4 models, with the notable exception of aircraft either initially built or re-fitted by Erla Flugzeugwerke, which sometimes bear the Me 109 stamping"
Both terms were acceptable during the war, sometimes used in the same page. The ME type designation began after Bayerische Flugzeugwerke AG became Messerschmitt AG in 1939 (after the birth of the Bf109) with all new aircraft directed to have the ME prefix.
That's right. The Bayerische Flugzeugwerke AG became 1938 the Messerschmitt AG, AFTER the construction of the BF109. The older Maschines could keep the Name as Bf108, Bf109, Bf110, ...
In all of the period film clips I've seen, A ground crewman was turning a crank on the side of the engine compartment prior to engine start-up. Does anybody know what this was all about? Did the Daimler-Benz not have an electric start mechanism? I can't imagine such a massive engine being crank-started like a Model T.
The hand crank is not directly linked to the engine. Many engines, both German and Allied could be started with an inertial starter, using a hand crank to energize a flywheel which then engages a starter gear to turn the engine over. Direct starters were heavy during WWII and the inertial starter saved weight. This Bosch starter on the German engines could be turned by hand or electrically with an external power source.
Both terms were used interchangeably during the war.The aviation company Bayerische Flugzeugwerke was renamed Messerschmitt AG with designer Willy Messerschmitt named as director in 1938-1939. All new aircraft were directed to have the ME prefix. Since the Bf109 was an older design, the BF prefix continued to be an acceptable reference as well as the ME name.
The Me109 cockpit was quite cramped from what I've read. For the restoration of the Planes of Fame A6M5 Zero, they actually modified the seat location so that a taller person could get into it for flying.
finally someone who uses the correct name "ME-109" not BF-109
ImTheSeekr 2 days ago
@ImTheSeekr
Both terms continued to be used during the war, sometimes even in the same document.
FiveCentsPlease 2 days ago
@FiveCentsPlease historically it was ME-109 but yes there was confusion about it's name.
ImTheSeekr 2 days ago
@ImTheSeekr
Confusing, yes, even to the Luftwaffe. The "ME" prefix began in 1939 under direction of Messerschmitt AG. All aircraft manufactured prior used the "BF" prefix.
FiveCentsPlease 2 days ago
@FiveCentsPlease yes after it switched production facilities
ImTheSeekr 1 day ago
this vid goes to favorites for being responsible of showing me badass aircraft :D
tellyman6688500 1 week ago
Do these old planes that fly today still carry their machine guns/canons or dummys of the same weight?
imtheduke 1 week ago
@imtheduke
Depending on the laws in the country where the plane is registered, gun installations may be prohibited. Typically the guns must be demilled or made inoperative with firing pins removed or a plug welded into the barrel. Replica guns may also be used. It's not legal to fly with operational guns. For airshow entertainment, some planes used to fly with propane "machine guns" to make some noise, but I've never seen them in action. NZ may have had live fire shows.
FiveCentsPlease 1 week ago
i thought the me's had square tipped wings & it was the bf's that had rounded tipped wings?.
moonsault2506123 2 weeks ago
intimating beauty..
orison319 1 month ago
"Fleiger sind Sieger".
TheMuffdivr 1 month ago
@TheMuffdivr it's "Flieger", not "Fleiger", IE instead of EI. ;) although, if you are english-speaking, you should PRONOUNCE both words like "Fleiger sind Seiger" or even "Fleeger sind Seeger".
for any non-german speakers: it means "Flyers"(Pilots) are "Winners".
m0rbusPolytox 1 month ago
First one is a G 10, second one G 6
Lemard77 1 month ago
@Lemard77
D-FDME G-10 and a G-2/Trop (wearing different paint.)
FiveCentsPlease 1 month ago
naci love
scorpens88 1 month ago
Shame alot of people say just because its German it's shit etc, I mean don't get me wrong, the Spitfire is a beaut! and the Underated Hurricane is too! but I'd so much rather see this fly for excitement reasons!
TheBlackOctane 1 month ago
@TheBlackOctane you forgot the mustang... im pretty sure the mustang has the spitfire beat, and dont forget the corsair of the pacific campaign
MARINECORPS1251 1 month ago
@MARINECORPS1251 So soo true! my apologies! The Mustang too is also one of my favourites, has to be the P51-D Ferocious Frankie from the old flying company located at Duxford!
TheBlackOctane 1 month ago
Designed in 1935, and 10 years later - after some of the most rapid advancement in aircraft technology - could STILL fly and fight on even terms with the best its enemies could throw at it. A magnificent design - pity it served perhaps the most evil regime in history.
skyking61 2 months ago
Bf 109 ist ein schönes Flugzeug
Tritium5678 2 months ago
Gorgeous aircraft. An era that is long gone but hopefully never forgotten. Love the whine of the superchargers!
gcm747 2 months ago
The Spitfire was one hell of a plane, and it outgunned the BF 109 in some areas due to the fact that it was designed much later, however the Daimler-Benz 605 inverted v-12 just sound evil and nasty at full throttle. Really throaty...just saying
vr6ist 2 months ago
@vr6ist ...The spit wasn't designed much later both were designed in the mid 30's both saw service before WW11..........however the Spit was able to be modified to the extent that that the Spit XIV was as good as any other fighter late in the war. But the ultimate Bf109 was probably the Bf109F...introduced in 1941.......pilots who flew the 109G considered it inferior to the F even though it was faster.
Aussiephil99 1 month ago
At 1:39 I almost wanna fall into a hypnotized state by prop. Pure beauty.
bugnut82 2 months ago
koje mašine a motori super
marijanfabijancic 2 months ago
Nothing sounds like a BF 109
vr6ist 2 months ago
@vr6ist Apart from a Spitfire, give me the Merlin engine anyday.
thetruth583 2 months ago
So good to hear the engines with no music or commentary over. Thanks
MrRogerharding 2 months ago
All of the Luftwaffe planes of WW2 seem to have a leathal, almost sinister, beauty to them. The proverbial devil in the red dress, but in this case, grey dapple. :)
4Him4u2 2 months ago
When it comes to cars I love American cars & German cars equally. That is, I;m just as much of a fan of classic GM cars as I am of Mercedes Benz & BMW cars / trucks. But when it comes to WWII aircraft my favorite is the Bf-109, no question! The Mustang is over rated & as great as the Merlin motor is, the supercharger whistle & exotic inverted V12 layout of the DB601 / DB605 is far more awesome.
sixty8panther 2 months ago
Thanks for posting - A rare sight indeed!
delodelo1 2 months ago
i don`t wanna be selfish, but i think in a simulation this plane still can beat some other planes which we got today in war...
shicetube 3 months ago
ME GUSTAV
GerbilEssences 3 months ago
There is not a single engine manufacturer that could make raw,awesome engine sounds as Daimler Benz :D :D Thats for sure :D :D
ollo1982 4 months ago
@ollo1982
I agree. In a few more years when other aircraft projects are complete, we will hopefully get to hear if the Jumo 213 can also make such lovely music.
FiveCentsPlease 3 months ago
@FiveCentsPlease Yea.. that would just be awesome :D love the sound of those old fighters :D :D
ollo1982 3 months ago
Vivaaa Messerschmitt!!! Long Live to the Very Best Birds!!!
MrMesserEd 4 months ago
Benz made their Engines?. Thank you for info. so far I was thinking it was Volks Wagon. By the way the tip of the wings should not be square vs round? Looks like the wings are from another airplanes. Please explain. (So I was right about the sound of the engines?)Thanks.
healer378 4 months ago
@healer378 These are later model 109's. Both F and G models had round wing tips. The E model and earlier had the squared off wings that you are thinking of. Hope this helps.
spootneb 4 months ago
oh my god, a beautiful aircraft to today and the sound is like music in my ears
realrealshadow 4 months ago 7
@realrealshadow the P-51's merlin engine kicks this engines ass
MARINECORPS1251 1 month ago
@MARINECORPS1251 sorry the P-51 Merlin's sounds like a normal truck ;-)
realrealshadow 1 month ago
first fighter jets and they still havnt changed that much...fuck yea nazis! (for this and only this)
xraidedlok 4 months ago
@xraidedlok they had awesome tanks too, and rockets, and jets, and soldiers, and submarines, and dive bombers, and heavy bombers... but.... FUCK THE IDEOLOGY!
Hussarer 4 months ago
@Hussarer ahhaahhahaaha yeah they were fucking GENIUS!!!!!!!!. one of the greatest leaders ever. beside the whole genocide thing.. damn its insane what technology they had and how they got their resources.. have you ever seen that Landkreuzer P. 1000 Ratte... look it up woulda loved to see that
xraidedlok 4 months ago
@xraidedlok yep, thats a hell of a moving aremed bunker.
Hussarer 4 months ago
Why the fuck on earth would someone dislike a video about airplanes? :/
SeipherFox 5 months ago
@SeipherFox they must have been jews
xraidedlok 4 months ago
Are these the DB605 engines? The planes look like 109Gs to me
sahandaman 5 months ago
@sahandaman
Yes.
FiveCentsPlease 5 months ago
too bad that magnificent machines like these were used for destruction
fidan2fast 5 months ago
Isnt the G 2 109 oversprayed Black 6 G 2?
BadMichael1984 5 months ago
@BadMichael1984
Yes.
FiveCentsPlease 5 months ago
The P51 Mustang, was the best fighter plane of WW II,
928CATT 5 months ago
@928CATT The best fighter was the ME262 Jet......The best piston driven bird was the TA152.....and.....The best dual engine one was the HE219.... Overwhelming Allied air superiority due to mass production,available materials,and prompt competent large scale pilot training overshadowed any chance these Luftwaffe aircraft may have had to prove their capabilities in impact.....The best aircraft the allies had hands down was the P47 T-Bolt..It "cleared" the skies essentially before the Mustang came
buickbrat 5 months ago
@928CATT god, I'm so sick of everyone saying that the P-51 is he best
not saying anything bad about them, they were innovative, superior and far better than other, but to say that they were the best in WW2 is just plain stupid...
there were tons of other aircraft that did much more than these in the war, just from America... not to mention legendary aircraft from both axis and allies sides
fidan2fast 5 months ago
@928CATT That is simply not true. In their memoirs many finnish fighter aces considered russian LA-5 and JAK-9 as more dangerous opponents than (lend & lease) P-51s and Spitfires.
Puffalo5 4 months ago
what a sound
dasgilde 5 months ago
what s the differens wit me and bf
thekill847 5 months ago
@thekill847
The aircraft designer Bayerische Flugzeugwerke AG was reorganized in 1938 as Messerschmitt AG and all new aircraft were directed to carry the ME prefix. Both BF and ME continued to be acceptable terms for the aircraft during the war by both the Germans and Allies.
FiveCentsPlease 5 months ago
sounds like death
cambazct 5 months ago in playlist cambazct's Favorited Videos
Messerschmitt BEST ww2 fighters over 5000 hits!
samsite84 6 months ago
DOES ANYONE KNOW ,how many of these amazing machines ,are still in existence,and how many are able to fly :)
badslabber 6 months ago
@badslabber
Five total are airworthy worldwide. Two E models in North America restored from wreckage and three G models in Germany at EADS rebuilt from Spanish HA-1112 airframes and a mixture of original parts. A handful of restoration projects are continuing for flight, but are slow due to rare parts and money. Close to 70 exist as either stored wreckage or partial wreckage, awaiting restoration, or museum display.
FiveCentsPlease 6 months ago
@FiveCentsPlease thanks for the reply :)
badslabber 6 months ago
is the plane at 2;00 black 6?? and if it is, what happened to it??
MrTubbymarshall 6 months ago
@MrTubbymarshall
Black 6 is on permanent museum display at RAF Hendon. After restoration it was planned to fly for short time and then retire for museum display as a rare original. It had a landing accident on the final flight, but was repaired and placed in the museum. Black 6 was repainted for part of the filming for this video series, so there are really only 2 Me109s in this video.
FiveCentsPlease 6 months ago
I really don't think these have the original engines in them because Volks Wagon don't built them anymore nor has the parts. Engine sounded more like a British Spitfire not the real thing. I don't know what they have put inside these but outside looked original. Very scary to fly these.
healer378 6 months ago
@healer378
The engines in these two aircraft are authentic. And the engines were not made by VW, but by Daimler-Benz.
One plane is genuine WWII original and the other is reconstructed from a Spanish-built post war airframe.
FiveCentsPlease 6 months ago
G model? Regardless, I want one/
mdittrick07 6 months ago
wow, how rare is this!!!!! two of em, i cant believe my eyes!!! what is the difference in models with the retractable tail wheel, can someone tell me??
MrTubbymarshall 6 months ago
@MrTubbymarshall
The tall tailwheel was a modification for some G10 and later versions to improve forward visibility and to reduce load pressures on the main landing gear. This G10 is rebuilt from original parts and a post-war Spanish HA-1112 airframe. The other short tailwheel example is a fully WWII original G-2/Trop (painted in two color schemes) which no longer flies and is on permanent museum display.
FiveCentsPlease 6 months ago
@FiveCentsPlease thank you for clearing that little one up. now then, the nxt question. why is is the other beauty no longer flying? i find that very sad. what beautiful warbirds they are. they look so purposeful dont they??
MrTubbymarshall 6 months ago
@MrTubbymarshall
The G-2/Trop in desert colors was an intact example captured in North Africa and was the first WWII original Me109 slowly restored to flying condition over 20 years. The original plan was to fly it for a few years and then put it on permanent display as an original. (Although some wish it would still fly.) It also flipped over on landing on it's last scheduled flight, but was repaired before going on museum display.
FiveCentsPlease 6 months ago
@FiveCentsPlease tall tail is on g-6
Davidsolo1 6 months ago
@Davidsolo1
D-FDME with the Erla canopy and tall tail is listed as a G-10 originally rebuild from HA-1112-MIL #213 with other G-10 parts.
FiveCentsPlease 6 months ago
@MrTubbymarshall The only ME109s that had retractable tail wheels were the F0-F6 series, and the K series, which was the last ones built.
guinness138 6 months ago
@guinness138 thank you for your reply. i do appreciate that. beautiful little aircraft with a nasty bite eh??
MrTubbymarshall 6 months ago
nice plane nice sound. benz engine. hitlers fighting machines.
and spitfire was very nice. kinda brings tears to my eyes.
musicman1296 6 months ago 12
@musicman1296 Messerschmidt = Mercedes ; Focke Wulf = BMW
shicetube 3 months ago
Spitfire Fodder.
m52spy 7 months ago
Nice engine sound
Mark49007 7 months ago
nothing could dive like the 109
slayersthashit 7 months ago
LOVE IT
Jagdgeschwader52EH 7 months ago
Those landing gear on ME-109's always look like they're on the verge of colapse, to me.
jonesy97 7 months ago
@jonesy97:
There's reason in the madness: They were designed that way in order to be able to remove an entire wing while still having the landing gear intact. In other words: the pilot could park a hit plane, they could swap the right wing while still parked, plane then ready to take off while damaged wing being fixed. Pretty decent engineering...
elmerexpress 7 months ago
@elmerexpress The landing gear is attached to the wing, well past the root. If the wing is removed at it's root, so is the landing gear. If a wing is removed, the a/c will not stand on it's own. Not following your explaination here.
jonesy97 7 months ago
@jonesy97
Wrong, and you can easily find photos to show this. The landing gear it attached at the bulkhead forward of the cockpit, which is the same bulkhead where the engine mounts are found. The wings can be removed and the fuselage can rest on the extended gear.
FiveCentsPlease 7 months ago
@FiveCentsPlease Now I see where I was stuck. You're refering to removing ONE wing at a time, while the a/c rests normally on its extended landing gear, right? The gear's sharp angle is what's needed to have it in position to be mounted to the bulkhead in question, correct? Or if it were straight, #1 landing with such a tight c/g would be difficult as hell, and #2, They'd be wing mounted, and could penetrate the wings during a particularly rough landing.
jonesy97 7 months ago
@jonesy97 Gotcha! Sorry for the mix-up, and thanks for the info. I've loved this aircraft, and WWII aviation since I was 6 or 7 years old. It never gets old. Would love to see one close up, and see those details, like you mentioned. Hats off to ya!
jonesy97 7 months ago
@jonesy97
Both wings can be removed and the fuselage can rest on the extended gear. Look for photos of Red 7 under repair. The 109 was notorious for poor ground tracking because of the landing gear position, particularly during tail-up just before take off and during landing. Combine this with the torque-effects for all of these fighters with big props and high-powered engines. Wide-track landing gear is more forgiving.
FiveCentsPlease 7 months ago
@jonesy97:
I have been explained that the gear is indeed attached to the fuselage, so that when the gear folds up, it does so outwards from the fuselage and are then enclosed in the wing, thus the wing detachable. In contrast, f. ex. the Spitfire and most others fold the landing gear inwards. Gain: a lot better stability during t.o./ landing, but more cumbersome if a wing has to be replaced. I do not have precise technical descriptions on this. If you do, I'd be interested in hearing from you...
elmerexpress 7 months ago
@elmerexpress I got it. It was a misunderstanding on my part, about the linkage of the root of the gear leg. I got it now. If you're looking for technical specs, ask the guy below, fivecentsplease.
jonesy97 7 months ago
@elmerexpress
The Spitfire gear retracts outward like the Me109, but the Spit gear is attached to the wing. The Me109 design eliminated weight, with much of the load-bearing structure centered on the main bulkhead in front of the cockpit with the engine mounts and gear mounts. A consequence of that is narrow landing gear and poor handling. Inward retracting landing gear spaced further apart distributed aircraft weight differently, but more load-bearing points made the plane heavier. Cont....
FiveCentsPlease 7 months ago
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FiveCentsPlease 7 months ago
@elmerexpress
The wider gear made handling easier, but all of these fighters still suffered from the torque-effects of the huge prop and engine regardless of the gear placement. A benefit of the Me109 landing gear mounting allowed the wings to be removed with the fuselage left free-standing.
FiveCentsPlease 7 months ago
@FiveCentsPlease:
Thanx! - a little lesson learned each day!
elmerexpress 7 months ago
Thank you for sharing the sights and sounds of the 109!
MrBuddydan 7 months ago
Sorry, but recent research found out that the death toll at Dresden was 4 or 5 thousand. To be sure, that is a large number of people who perished, but say these words to yourself (repeat if necessary). This is something to say if you start feeling sorry for the citizens of Nagasaki and Hiroshima ... wait for it ... 'THEY started it!"
mustangtmg 7 months ago
sorry, at 1:57
OSTP222 7 months ago
I have a same airfix model the plane that shows on 2:54.a beautiful model it really is.
OSTP222 7 months ago
Thanks for Messers :))
Mars7777777 7 months ago
did some tool right that tan coloured 109 off!!?
TheFunkhouser 7 months ago
@TheFunkhouser
Flipped over on landing during the final flight before retirement to museum display, but not written off. Repaired and now on permanent static display as original.
FiveCentsPlease 7 months ago
sorry but the spitfire sounds nicer.
countrywideboy 8 months ago
Die Messerschmitt Bf 109 ist sehr schön...:-)
Tritium5678 8 months ago 13
does anyone else thinks that after Korea, the real air combat ended? i mean, an air force with great pilots with lame aircraft would loose, back then the result of a dogfight relied more in the pilots, i mean, look at italy, even with those Fiat G50 with the lamest engine ever were able to shoot down some spits and hurris, just saying
Loxleiev 8 months ago
One Summer - Two Messerschmitts
sounds like porn movie, well, it is porn for me .... i get eargasms with these engines
Loxleiev 8 months ago
what sounds better than a ME 109???...2 ME 109's...ty cheers!
wilatemodel 8 months ago
@wilatemodel
Or 1 Spitfire...
m52spy 7 months ago
@m52spy ..touche...cheers..
wilatemodel 7 months ago
Sheer beauty These are fantastic planes and deserve their place in History. I bought a drawing of Black 13 which was Gunther Rall's ME 109. By then Mr Rall has passed away but it is signed by the artist and Mr Eric Rhudorfer who was also a WWll German air ace with over 200 kills. You have to admire these men and their flying skills
ronaldrobin 8 months ago
It's nice to see these old planes still flying. They form a part of world history in aviation and war. There were some brilliant pilots about during the war, pilots from all sides and each one with their own vital part that they played. The war's over now. That was a long time ago. The men who filled the skies then are growing smaller by the day. They deserve the glory they got They deserve to be remembered without hatred.
ronaldrobin 8 months ago
around 2:30 nice pass by sound
RRYankfan 8 months ago
love the sound of that engine
DeafFret 8 months ago
you cant beat the sound the 4 merlin engines on a lancaster tho, but this is a awesome plane. Definetly 1 of the best planes, along with the spitfire,hawker hurricane, avro lancaster, messerschmitt, focke wulf, dakota C47 and Republic Thunderbolt
VINNY12385 8 months ago
@VINNY12385
yeah the RR Merlin sounds good was and is a wonderful piston engine...but c´mon it sounds like an Allision, an Klimow or or or..it has no inverted cylinders design....thats why a Harley Davidson sounds as it is....the Merlin sounds like a powerful, mighty and superior engine..but the hype about it is really overacted.
Dont get me wrong..I love the Spit and all other Merlin-equipped planes...but not the engine makes the success..its the pilot, the airframe and than the engine
grazyarnie 8 months ago
Maybe someone know this part of the music in this film?
maraskin777 9 months ago
Always wondered why they had those spirals painted on the nose, did it have a purpose or was it just decoration?
evildeathmonkey1 9 months ago
@evildeathmonkey1
Each livery is different for a squadron. The factory paint job is rather boring and some liven it up a bit like in the old days of WWI.
rickcain2320 9 months ago
@evildeathmonkey1
It was more than just decoration. It's debated whether is was another means of friend/foe identification in combat or to create an optical illusion to throw off the aim of Allied gunners. The Luftwaffe did use bright colors (such as yellow) as a tactical color for quick identification, especially to ground gunners. Staffel colors were used on the numbers and sometimes the spinner color.
FiveCentsPlease 9 months ago
@evildeathmonkey1: Modern jet aircraft have the spinners painted with a spiral design to alert ground personnel that the engine is running, and to deter birdstrikes.
raynus1 8 months ago
wish EADS 109's come over for flying Legends at some point.
killerbeez95 9 months ago
Ops isnt IIWW, its WWII.
Alanss27 9 months ago
Me-109 and others german plans can fly today with the original paint? With nazi symbol?
For me it is not a problem, the nazism has end, planes and another IIWW things can stay with your original paint, it is not nazism, its history.
Alanss27 9 months ago
@Alanss27
I agree...It's just odd that Germany, itself, has outlawed any visual or scripted reference to the Nazi symbol. I find the former WWII Nazi machines of war, both instructive, and very important historical archives...
deetjay1 9 months ago
@Alanss27 Right, it is history.
Same as the Red Star is on Russian historical aircraft.
Not promoting communism but correct history.
A lot of fuzzy memories out there.
Besides the swastika pre-dates the birth of the Nazi movement.
Now that present day pilots are flying it, we are now truly understanding the greatness of the Bf-109.
rampking1 9 months ago
ME 109 G-6, plane wich saved our freedom!
Ravenlord79 9 months ago
very nice aircraft, it would've been nice if they let Robin Olds taken her out for a spin to compare it with the P38.
CentinelThe 9 months ago
i do have to admit those are some of the most beautiful aircraft ive seen. they look like they just came out of the factory
JetFlyyer 9 months ago
In my opinion, best plane of the war. Fine i mean as in how great it was because you got the mustang coming in at the end but me109, my favourite plane
panzerelite195 9 months ago
Like it or not,this plane is a part of history. It should be charished to remind us of what went down from 1938-1945. It is also one of the best fighters ever built. I for one am glad to see this beautiful piece of history flying in the skies once again. I just wish it would fly its way to rhode island for the airshow here just once.
msc698cc1 9 months ago
The Bf 109 was one of the finest fighters of WWII - many German aces actually prefered the 109G over the Focke Wulf 190A as it had a better climb rate at any altitude and a higher top speed at high altitiude.
The 109 also had the advantage of leading edge wing slats which gave it an excellent turning circle at speeds just above the stall.
Equal to the Spitfire Mks I through Vb, it was only finally outclassed by the up-engined Spitfire MkIX in all respects except for the initial dive speed.
Merlin2Stage2Speed 9 months ago
ZZZZGERMANZ!!!
TheDoogee 9 months ago
Ya i dont know. Gotta seperate the humans from the machines. I am jewish and I personally think the Messerschmitts are some of the coolest looking planes ever designed. I have a few models of them actually
MusicalDarkHorse 10 months ago
@jamieaust1
I see that there are a couple of Me109 wrecks that have found their way to Australia. (Perhaps sold again to other buyers.) There was an E model and a G-6 wreck. Do you have any other specific info? Was it a Buchon wreck?
There is also the famous Australian War Memorial Me109, in original WWII paint, that was blocked from export back in the late 70s or early 80s.
FiveCentsPlease 10 months ago
ACES HIGH!!!!!!
opi335 10 months ago
@jettrink60
One is an original WWII Me109 (repainted for part of the filming) and the other is a CASA HA-1112 rebuilt into an Me 109.
FiveCentsPlease 10 months ago
What was the difference between the BF and the ME?
fjbutch 10 months ago
@fjbutch
Nothing other than the name change when the company was reorganized in 1939 into Messerschmitt AG and directed all new airframes to have the ME type name. Both terms continued to be used.
FiveCentsPlease 10 months ago
@FiveCentsPlease Thanks for that..Appreciated...
fjbutch 10 months ago
@fjbutch Ignorance! It's proper designation is Bf-109!
AERTANK 7 months ago
@AERTANK Fair go mate !!....at leastI take an interest in these works of art.....
fjbutch 7 months ago
@fjbutch I love them, I don't care what side they are on! They were incredible machines! The ME Designation was applied to later fighters such as the Me-110, and some 109s built late on by a particular manufacturer, but in the 109s case the Bf designation is the more correct one!
AERTANK 7 months ago
@AERTANK Thanks ..Cheers :)
fjbutch 7 months ago
@AERTANK
Aircraft builder Bayerische Flugzeugwerke AG was renamed Messerschmitt AG in 1938, with designer Willy Messerschmitt named as director. All new aircraft were directed to have the ME prefix. The Bf109 was originally designed and build by Bayerische Flugzeugwerke with the BF prefix, with newer models adopting the ME designation. Both terms continued to be used interchangeably throughout the war.
FiveCentsPlease 7 months ago
@FiveCentsPlease True, but "All extant airframes bear the official "Bf 109" designation on their identification plates, including the final K-4 models, with the notable exception of aircraft either initially built or re-fitted by Erla Flugzeugwerke, which sometimes bear the Me 109 stamping"
AERTANK 7 months ago
Excuse my pedantry, but the bird was not an "Me109". It was an "Bf 109".
blendertool 10 months ago
@blendertool
Both terms were acceptable during the war, sometimes used in the same page. The ME type designation began after Bayerische Flugzeugwerke AG became Messerschmitt AG in 1939 (after the birth of the Bf109) with all new aircraft directed to have the ME prefix.
FiveCentsPlease 10 months ago
@FiveCentsPlease
That's right. The Bayerische Flugzeugwerke AG became 1938 the Messerschmitt AG, AFTER the construction of the BF109. The older Maschines could keep the Name as Bf108, Bf109, Bf110, ...
blendertool 10 months ago
Oh my I am in love.
diggityd00 11 months ago
love that whine
spiff31 11 months ago
beautiful birds
MiaBellaGSD 11 months ago
quel bel avion
omega79009 11 months ago
That "G10" was real beauty, shame it's now repainted to dull and inaccurate scheme ...
zx749r 11 months ago
I'm just glad to finally see the inverted vee on a restored 109!
voxadvt30 1 year ago
In all of the period film clips I've seen, A ground crewman was turning a crank on the side of the engine compartment prior to engine start-up. Does anybody know what this was all about? Did the Daimler-Benz not have an electric start mechanism? I can't imagine such a massive engine being crank-started like a Model T.
usafvet100 1 year ago
@usafvet100
The hand crank is not directly linked to the engine. Many engines, both German and Allied could be started with an inertial starter, using a hand crank to energize a flywheel which then engages a starter gear to turn the engine over. Direct starters were heavy during WWII and the inertial starter saved weight. This Bosch starter on the German engines could be turned by hand or electrically with an external power source.
FiveCentsPlease 1 year ago
@FiveCentsPlease That makes sense. Thanks for the great info!
usafvet100 1 year ago
1:57 = beautiful..
abunjahal 1 year ago
is it ME 109 Or BF 109 and if its not the same whats the diff
TheMikesylv 1 year ago
@TheMikesylv
Both terms were used interchangeably during the war.The aviation company Bayerische Flugzeugwerke was renamed Messerschmitt AG with designer Willy Messerschmitt named as director in 1938-1939. All new aircraft were directed to have the ME prefix. Since the Bf109 was an older design, the BF prefix continued to be an acceptable reference as well as the ME name.
FiveCentsPlease 1 year ago
@FiveCentsPlease Thank you, sounds like you know your aviation history
TheMikesylv 1 year ago
i agree though that design and engine sound are respectively, excellent and fearsomely beautiful
darkmossie633 1 year ago
looks as if pilot is too fat for this fuselage?
-he can hardly move it seems!?
darkmossie633 1 year ago
@darkmossie633
The Me109 cockpit was quite cramped from what I've read. For the restoration of the Planes of Fame A6M5 Zero, they actually modified the seat location so that a taller person could get into it for flying.
FiveCentsPlease 1 year ago
@darkmossie633
109 were very tight
some spitfire pilot said it was about 25% smaller than spit
Sephy7777 1 year ago
@Sephy7777 from this then, can we assume that luftwaffe ME109 pilots had to be smaller than average
height and weight?!
darkmossie633 1 year ago
i luv the design on this plane so cool
caden300 1 year ago
A swastika belong to this plane.
Propellorbek 1 year ago
I didnt know you were allowed a sqastika on anything nowadays, even the original planes
skeligandrew 1 year ago