WWII - Ep. 6 Act 4 - Flying Tigers Bite Back

[c4nucksens8tion]

I don't doubt their numbers at all. The guys in the AVG were my heroes! I'm just pointing out that the americans had a much better aircraft. Especially with the hit and run tactics they used. I know being out numbered 8:1 doesn't help by any means.

[Richbund]

sharks teeth ? dummy!

they were called the flying Tigers, not the flying sharks.. they are tigers teeth!

[bobbyraejohnson]

And now shits on the USA

[MrPhantompants]

can someone tell me if back in ww2 everyone was like fukit you guys win you can rule the world what do you think it would be like now beter or worse?

[gonojaja]

These flying tigers were beautiful planes. They helped very much to fight against the Japanese in the early days of WWII before Pearl Harbour.

Thanks for those American pilots who fight against the Japanese to protect the territory of China !

[seminoleboy96]

@gonojaja the p 40s werent as good as the japanese planes..... its just claire chenault and his pilots were brilliant fighters

[c4nucksens8tion]

@seminoleboy96 as good? that depends on who you ask.. Jap planes were agile but the p40 had speed on them. I'll take speed anyday, that means you can leave the fight when you want. The agile plane has to stay and battle.

[seminoleboy96]

@c4nucksens8tion well even if there even fighting machines have u seen his groups numbers? there astonishing. id say most of it were the amazing pilots

[Akoro88]

@c4nucksens8tion the armor on the p-40 was also superior

[dilegentelectron]

There is museum in China just for the flying tigers and American soldiers who fought for China.

[GOTCOL]

Claire Chennault is a legend.

Joe Stillwell was a bitch.

[Monopoly907]

A total of 247 planes shot down, and killed 500 enemy pilots.

[swk959pm]

the japs shit em self when they c tthe tigers

[JustTrollingAround]

@swk959pm

ha

[irish89055]

i've got to save this one for the video clips, love the flying tigers but not this narrators pretentious voice... errrrrr.

[MrSwampdragon]

The Flying Tiger's first mission was 20 DEC 1941. That was "after" Pearl Harbor. Not the cause of it.

[millionaire394c]

Saluted to the American whom help to defend China

[NewGuy2534]

@millionaire394c To bad we couldn't get rid of the communism.

[Samjapa]

The ZEROS were more maneuverable and faster than the P-40s. but. to carry more fuel in the missions were heavier. That helped the Flying Tigers to take advantage in combat.

[Ryuforyou]

@Samjapa The Flying tigers were not flying against Japanese Nazy Zeros, they were facing Japanese Army Airforce Ki27s and Ki43s along with various bombers. The Flying Tigers advantage came from their "boom and zoom" tactics, climb above the enemy, dive, shoot, use the speed from the dive to get away. The P-40 could outdive the Japanese fighters, plus the Japanese fighters had no self sealing fuel tanks and no armour plating, so one pass usually would be enough to down a Japanese plane.

[hetmanbasza]

@Ryuforyou

Exactly!

Although, using best tactics to your advantage has never been a sin.

"You will always win a fight if you never let the other guy hit you."

Once the rules crystalized "what not do do with a Zero" it became something of a sport to shoot them down. Even a novice in a P-38 with that education could handle most Zero's and their fine pilots.

[Ryuforyou]

@hetmanbasza

I totally agree, its not a sin at all, its the sign of a good pilot. To know you aircrafts strength and to use that against the enemy is what makes an ace.

[ali4330]

@Ryuforyou Then the P40 were enough to face the jap's oscars and bombers.Luckily the japs concentrated their zeros and their best pilots in Pacific

[superkancil]

just rated & subscribed!

great upload. appears u r very well informed.

keep up the good work.

[kuinosenmonkey]

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FDR plans sneak attack before Pearl Harbor

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America's Plan to Bomb Japan before Pearl Harbor

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[nyelks2000]

Thank you we are very grateful for defend china

[westentrance]

Great old newsreel except for the statement that the Zero was faster than the 40. The Zero climbed faster but the 40 had greater straight-a-way and diving speed. Too bad China turned communist and backed our future enemies.

[Chinaforever777]

We Chinese are eternally grateful for these brave Americans who helped China to defeat the Japs during WW2 !

[crxxe]

I am eternally grateful to the Chinese who rescued my great uncle William Norman after he was injured bailing out of his B-24 near Kunming Oct 44. The Chinese faced retribution from the Japanese for hiding him.

Here is a quote from him in the Sparta IL News Plaindealer December 8, 1944 The Chinese are fine people, I would just as soon serve in China as any place on the globe.

[seminoleboy96]

@Chinaforever77 well i wish that u could overthrow ur communist government and become a democracy

[hanchiman]

John Woo is planning to make a feature movie about the Flying Tigers... expect to see scenes with "Pappy" appear with two guns while bullet dodging from Japanese soldiers.

[obamasurewin]

A huge "thank you" from CHina for such a strong flying team that assisted us half a century ago!

[DadsBlueAngel]

I think my father saw this before went down and asked how he could he could volunteer--were the Flying TIgers a volunteers only outfit?

[Broaster07]

The proper name was the American Volunteer Group, AVG. It was a "top secret" group known about by Nimitz and Roosevelt. Read "Baa Baa Black Sheep" by Gregory Boyington. He was on of the 3rd Pursuit.

[DadsBlueAngel]

I'm afraid the AVF, as you call it, was as secret as BETTY GRABLE. MY FATHER WAS SO SOUPED UP by pro-flying-tiger propaganda. You could volunteer to be in it, and that's what they did during the war, by the thousands. They were excluded from scrutiny

by Mc Carthy. But there was an era of silence

between then and now from which we never recovered. It has hard to get China's holocaust back into the textbooks because we havn't put it in ours. Top secret as Walmart,

[Broaster07]

LOL about the "top secret." I'm only going by Boyington's account of how he had to resign his USMC commission to go to China in '39. Once the Shinto hit the fan, on 7 December 41, I'm sure the AVG became a big PR and morale hit.

[kimpunkrock]

@Broaster07 new movie about Boyington has been made, its a documentary, check it out.

[christof139]

P-40 was the equivalent of a Bf-109. P-39 was better below 15,000 feet.

[christof139]

Below 15,000-feet, the P-39 Airocobra was one of the most nimble & dogfighting planes of WWII. The USSR's greatest ace flew one very successfully as did many other Soviet pilots. The P-40 was also quite manueverable, but not nearly as much as a Zero, hence Chenault developed tactics for it.

[fuhmeregan]

Awesome!!!!!!!! Shooting filthy Jap garbage examples of humanity like ducks in a barrel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DadsBlueAngel]

No, it's only like that in the movies. When my father would see a clip like that he'd say "That fool's a dead duck. You only had one chance to get the Japanese before they got you--before he got in position to fire. There was only a brief period between the time we left China with a mass of humanity blocked by the

Himalyas, dying from starvation and hunger,

and winter. All the 14th AAC could do was to transfer the gas out of China so the enemy couldn't use it on either China or India.

[yliang1688]

Thanks. Go ROC Taiwan and USA for a freedod and more peaceful world!

[chuckbflo]

The only thing 'obsolete' were the antiquated World War I era slow-speed dogfighting tactics used at the start of the Second World War.

Many early Allied losses simply happened to occur while flying P-40s or P-39s, the only two fighters able to be produced in large numbers throughout most of 1941-2.

Once the Allies learned better tactics, they started having far greater success against the enemy. So much so, in fact, that the tactics were adopted as doctrine for all aircraft until war's end.

[DadsBlueAngel]

Not in China--the dogfight's are so few that they achieved fame but there was never the gas for any intentional engagement of that kind. IF you want dogfighting, get a video game or turn on the TV or go to a movie.

[chuckbflo]

@buzzobug: The P-40 was not "slower" than the Zero. To summarize what I said in prior posts: The Curtiss fighter was faster in level flight at all altitudes, and was certainly much faster in a dive. The P-40 was more maneuverable at higher speeds (above 250 IAS). The P-40 had a roll-rate three times faster at 250 IAS. Incidentally, the Zero's unusually large ailerons, which helped give it such great slow speed maneuverability, created impossibly high stick forces for the pilot at higher speeds.

[chuckbflo]

@buzzobug: Apparently, your writing and comprehension skills are roughly on par. I invite you to re-read my prior posts, or see my next comment.

[buzzobug]

the P-40 was slower but was better in a dive. and the flying tigers would try and get a Japanese Zero in a dive. The P-40 could not turn with the Zero. The P-40 did have 6- 50,s machine guns. The P-40 was by the wars start, was about over with. But still did damage to the Zero.s Just like the ME_109 pilots would try and get the Spitfire pilots to turn there plane over as the ME_109 was fuel injection the Spitfire was not and would sputter at first sputter.

[chuckbflo]

The shipment of P-40s diverted to the AVG was indeed originally intended for the British. But the Brits didn't consider the plane 'obsolete;' the AVG simply needed the aircraft urgently, so a deal was struck whereby the RAF were promised a shipment of later-model P-40s;

Finally, it must be noted that no Allied fighter produced during WWII was as maneuverable as the Zero. The AVG's tactics against the Japanese, perfected in the P-40, were ultimately adopted as doctrine by the U.S. military.

[DadsBlueAngel]

But they all ran on fossile fuel, so the fine points have come from Air Shows and movies. The 14 th AAC ran on scarce fuel. The heaviest of the bombardments between the closing of the "back door" and the deal with HIrohito to end the war on US terms.

[chuckbflo]

The P-40 was more maneuverable at high speeds (above 250 MPH IAS) than the Zero;

The P-40 was much more heaviiy armed than Japanese fighters, including the Zero;

The P-40 had much more armor and thus greater protection for the pilot and systems (including self-sealing fuel tanks) -- features that the light and delicate Japanese fighters lacked entirely;

Japanese figher ace Saburo Sakai rated the P-40 as one of the most formidable Allied fighters of WWII;

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[wallace5154]

My Dad was a Tiger and i am trying to find info. He was shot down in action and I would like to find out the name if the Airman he hooked up with, His name was Joseph Naughton. I found the man that got his Maydaycall ended up biong a surgeon that operated on him many years later and reconised his voice from the Mayday call, I would love to know more.

[crxxe]

I would suggest sending for an accident report. There should be some type of report from the Air Foce. It will give you a lot of details. His unit, service dates, etc.

[DadsBlueAngel]

@wallace5154 There's a widows organization that can tell you about that with adult sons and daughters and Academic helping--they've been looking for grave sites in China for some times. Where the tigers often were shot down has been fairly remote and quite beautiful. The people often have remembered the details of crashes, survivors, funerals by villages. I havn't got all my material in playlists and much of it only in print. Write me

with questions.

[dilegentelectron]

@wallace5154 There is a museum for the flying tigers in China.

[chuckbflo]

Amazing how little respect the P-40 gets. Just to set the record straight:

The P-40 was faster in level flight than any Japanese fighter including the A6M Zero, which has always been considered Japan's finest WWII fighter;

The P-40 was much faster in a dive than the Zero, routinely exceeding 500 MPH (above 350, the lightly built Zeros would invariably encounter structural damage);

The P-40 had a roll rate two to three times that of the Zero;

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[pastrami1945]

Great video; the shots of Martin B-10 bombers and Boeing P-26 fighters are really neat. We don't often get to see footage of these great old birds flying.

[Drpepper687]

And China thanked us by supplying North Korea and North Vietnam in their wars against us. Real nice.

[vinsong]

nah look at the wings, the symbol hows republic of china, nowadays Taiwan, and it's the communist chinese People's republic of china which help N.K and N.V. So Taiwan is still on our side

[shotgunslim]

hail to a.g.v. pilots and crew! the defender of burma road.

[monkeyboyn25]

my hometown Kunming, would have been bombed flat if it wasn't for the Flying Tigers. So Flying TIgers, my deepest appreciation goes to you!

[NamVetBuck]

Such a small number of Tigers....and such a long list of victims they shot down !

[strato867]

wait, p-40s are faster than the zeros!

[Haywood223]

P-40s were only faster than a A6M Zero in a dive, it was heavier, otherwise the Zero outclassed the P-40 in all other aspects.

[strato867]

the p-40s are faster! the speed they reach "without a dive" is 360 mph, which is far faster than the 320 mph of the zero