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  • happy birthday JESUS CHRIST,,,

  • My saviour Jesus was borned. Praise almighty father. Thank you blessed mother Mary for saying "yes". Merry Christmas to the whole world.

  • I cry this video. Merry Christmas 

  • Merry Christmas! Praise Jesus!

  • god why am i watching this

  • @MrTommygizmo

    fucking catholic

  • @tyrannicusx no im not im normal and to prove it i dont want to watch it!

  • @tyrannicusx You would do well to watch your tongue. The person you speak of is not a Catholic, or a Protestant, he is scum. Do not insult the birth of Christianity, Catholicism was formed by St Peter, a disciple of the lord Jesus Christ, and without Catholicism, your protestant beliefs would never have been formed. If you insult him assuming he's catholic because he insults the nativity, you need to do research on Catholicism, considering Catholicism is the reason we all know of the nativity.

  • @JeremyHill89 the catholicism that i am against is the ONLY ONE i know, the latin catholicism.

    i've researched, and i've discovered the real catholicism

    but you're right, he is not believer is SCUM ;)

  • 5 people are Atheist :/

  • How could people dislike this?!

  • how can god the creator of the universe lets say god can be born ? how can he be a defencless baby and also born in a horse stable where animals deficate and eat ?? and especially god comming out of a humans vagina :/ can someone answer me please

  • @trank369 humbleness is the answer, no scientist or priest or pastor will ever convince you of God, even God will all his power he's humble, he's no kid wishing to show you how great and strong he is, or how wealthy he is, he's also a human, in other words you are also made out of God, it does not mean that God has come to us, but that we came to God, you came humble into the world, and you will die humbly, no wealth will ever save you, forget about the world and it's riches, just look for God.

  • @trank369 lol...all things are possible with God...why is it so impossible? isn't God all powerfull.

  • @TheLeadinglegacy

    this is god ?? being born GOD being a helpless baby..GOD being a baby screaming for milk...GOD being able to sleep, poo, eat...GOD being born in a room where animals have sex ? poo eat ?

    ^^^all of these are atributes of humans not something that would happen to the creator of the heavans and the earths this is GOD the most mercifal the msot merciful

    not a hopeless baby

  • @trank369 I really cant begin on how wrong you are, friend. so this should jsut about sum it up for you /watch?v=Jt-2tJmsOGo . It was good enough for the son of god, as it would be more than fit for you as well. Its the perfect place for a god to come from as if you look past your own ignorance you will see that it reflects a person who had nothing, came from nothing, and changed the world so much in such a short span of time (2 millennia) that he will be worshipped long after you or I are gone.

  • this allways brings a little tear to my eyes, for what hope would i have without him being born there are no words to express my feelings.

  • This Video is half-Bullshit, because Mary never touched any man in her life, she Was total chaste and Virgin.

  • Poor Joseph--the biggest cuckold in history.

    "Mary . . . what's going on? We haven't had sex! How come you're pregnant?"

    "I'm still a virgin, Joseph. It's God's child."

    "But what about that Roman soldier you're always hanging out with???"

    "He's just a friend."

    And if you believe that, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.

  • My favorite part was when the light shined. It is crazy how jesus came a normal person. Joseph and mary didn't know they had a holy child. diciples were funny to me in this scene. I dont get how God is jesus father but mary is the mother

  • @zaythejerker God had chosen her to hold his son.

  • If I would have made that movie again, but have all black people in Israel and white Romans coming to Israel to kill black Jesus, would that cause white and black people to boycott my movie?

  • wow this is my favorite scene jesus born

  • i didn't know my birth was on YouTube..... awesome :D

  • @BrandonPHodskins burn in hell, you son of a bitch. god will smite you!!

  • i remember when i first watched this scene and i actually cried

  • I am an atheist, but I find religion fascinating. Since tons of religious people are probably in this comments section, tell me this: In your opinion, am I still loved by God and Jesus if I am transgender and pansexual? I have been called a disgusting freak by people who share many of your beliefs.

  • @killyjoy13 Many people might not think so, but in my opinion if God didn't love you, he'd just be an asshole. Things like sexuality and such aren't choices; even science proves we were born that way. For people who think we have to repent for that "sin", they don't take into consideration we don't choose it. You don't look at someone and wonder, "Am I straight or gay today?" You just are. So in my opinion, God should still love you. If he doesn't, our Heavenly Father is a dick.

  • @Utauluver12345 First off, God loves everyone. Including the homosexuals, the straight and the confused. Secondly, saying that science PROVES it is just ridiculous. It's like saying science PROVES that there are ghosts. Some things you just can't prove, you have to just believe and that's that.

  • @killyjoy13 Well, saying religion is a little broad, but in Christianity, God loves you. The Bible says that God is love. It doesn't matter though b/c we were born with a sin nature. God sent his son so that humanity will be saved through a perfect sacrifice. I think people get caught up in the dogmatic definitions of "sin" but you might as well just say you are human therefore not good enough. Religion, to me, is different than a personal faith. I'm not religious, but I believe in God.

  • @killyjoy13 Yes; God loves all. No matter your sexuality or whatnot, he loves you. He made everyone and he made them in his image and no matter what he will not forsake you. That's the truth.

  • @killyjoy13 it is not for us to judge anyone .. i dont profess to be perfect but a christian and yes god still loves folk no matter who they are .. all i know is that, it is the things we do that he doesnt like ..and im not pointing a finger at anyone just saying thats all..hope this helps...

  • awsome job jesus well thanks for dieing on the cross for our sins and for loving memememememememmeem

  • God if you performed historical miracles i.e. the virgin birth and the resurrection, then why have you abandoned us? Why not stop the religious atrocities i.e. the crusades, 911, etc.? If you're omnipotent and benevolent surely you could step in and halt these religious atrocities via your supernatural power. Otherwise how am I supposed to believe in you? Another question I have is: Are there extra-terrestrial messiahs in the universe? lol.

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  • I love this movie! it makes it so real. :)

  • @AreYouAbove Then why the fuck are you watching this video you no good piece of shit? Why don't you go burn in the deepest pit of hell where you belong!

  • i like the part where she has an orgasm

  • I'm sorry but  Keisha Castle-Hughes is a real beauty even when covered in sweat and birthing our "savior".

  • God thank you for sending Jesus

    I am a muslim

    May God bless all humanity !

  • @Bhead92 Amen Jesus is not just a Prophet but the True and Living God. May Jesus Christ and the salvation he gave us be made known to all mankind!

  • @TheLeadinglegacy I didn't want to say that Jesus is God or just a prophet , I think we all know what Muslims believe about Jesus , we ( Muslims ) worship Allah ( God in arabic ) and Jesus is our beloved prophet , Asalamo Alaikom ( peace be upon you ) !

  • Thanks for sharing. we viewing in sunday school today as part of our lesson of the paradox of Jesus...100% human and 100% divine - this clip was the perfect illustration of our lesson!

  • @AreYouAbove u must go to Hell Right Now

  • @AreYouAbove: The wonderful thing about our Savior--Jesus Christ--is that He loves you so much that He died for you on the cross. Salvation is for everybody--even you--but you have to decide to access His free gift. The other wonderful thing is that God made us with free will so that we don't have to serve Him unless we want to.

    I guess what I'm saying is Jesus Christ, my God and your God (if you choose so), is awesome and I hope you don't really mean what you say. Either way God Bless You...

  • @AreYouAbove I am an atheist as well but I also follow my own morality. I do not believe in rape or torture or any of that crap. you need help.

  • <3

  • no

  • Though He came riding on a little colt, He is our true God.

  • @Edis He came riding on a donkey I thought?

  • Христос се роди,ва истину се роди...

  • That's so beautiful!

  • happy bday jesus.....i love u with all my life.....thank u for your wonderful give to me, my life......

  • amazing:)

  • these is a very satanic, wrong, fleshfull, worldfull movie! the reality is so different! They know nothing about God and about His clean and beautifull work of those days when He becamed flesh, like us.. I repeat Joseph was an 80 year old man, chosed from 10 man,after a miracle ,by God Him self, to take care of her but to let Her remain a virgin!

  • Joseph was 80 year old man, and he was chosen by Zaharia tu take care of her cause the Mother of God had wanted to remain a virgin and She promised to God that She will give Him all Her life, in exchange for that when Mesia will be born God will let her be one of the slave, the most humble slave of the woman that will give birth to Mesia, and for Her purity, God had choosed Her to be the Mother of Hid Sun! And She gived birth without pain! God will never make someone suffer! satan does that!

  • @innocentul where'd you get that

  • @CreativJ35 Only the Orthodox Church, the first the Apostolic Church, the one that in 1054 the catholic church had spleated , the Orthodox Church is the Arch of Noe, The world ignores Her, many don't even know it exists, and her Thruth is so ignored , but yet so rich and lightened, there ,and only there you will find the Truth as God gived it to man! Mary remaind Virgin, She was not a special gifted ,She was like one of us, but She made no sin in all her life and gived brith without pain!

  • @innocentul Alright!!

  • @CreativJ35 She was at the temple since She was 3 years old, and at 12 an angel camed to Her and promised her that God Had chosed her for a great purpose, but She thought that she will only take care of the Mother of God not that she will be the one! And at 14 when she had to get out of the Temple, by the law of israel,She told the great Archiere that She want to remain a virgin,cause god want's her to be pure.so they chosed Joseph from 10 old and wise man to take care of Her.That's how it was

  • @CreativJ35 But, as far as you go from The orthodoxy (Jerusalem and southeaster Europe Church)as you go west, satan cheanged the truth and it becomes more darker and darker.. People don't know these things, and trust me that's not the only thing the western world doesn't know, but absolutly everithing is so changed that i simply feel so sorry i feel like vomiting..The orthodoxy is like talking and seying angels, that's how beautifull orthodoxy is! just tipe "hermits of our time "and push enter

  • Christ Child

    Light and life

    Peace and good will

    A child is born

    Hope of the world.

    The nations rise

    Glory and honor,

    Mary holds

    The Christ child.

  • One dislike? Must be King Herod surfing youtube.

  • @gupsphoo Let me guess... you watched Zeitgeist, didn't you?

  • @gupsphoo

    Date of 25th dec is indeed arbitrary. Birth, execution and resurrection are not as pagan as you might want them to be: try w w w scepticisme.nl/zeitgeist.pdf

    The proof is mainly in the gospels and them constituting more historic evidence then we have from Hannibal crossing the Alps.

  • @gupsphoo

    gupsphoo

    Date of 25th dec is indeed arbitrary. Birth, execution and resurrection are not as pagan as you might want them to be: try w w w scepticisme.nl/zeitgeist.pdf

    The proof is mainly in the gospels and them constituting more historic evidence then we have from Hannibal crossing the Alps.

  • @gupsphoo The odd thing is that sometimes myths become reality. There were also myths about dragons existing, and we know dinosaurs walked the earth; many times myth stems from reality, or reality mirrors myths.

  • I love you Jesus now & forever

  • this is my favorite story bc i love jesus christ

  • No pudo haber parido asi... en la tradicion Judia, jamas un varon puede estar en el parto con una mujer!!! Maria pario SOLA!!!

  • Whatever is the truth behind Jesus' birth, considering the many arguments about this and His existence and nature, the most important fact that we should always bear in mind is that He was born to fulfill God's purpose...and that we can't deny the fact that Jesus indeed MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF MANY AND IS CONTINUING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR LIVES EVERYDAY.

  • Gosh, that looks painful!! I'm glad I'm not ready to give birth yet!!!!!!!

  • God...thank you for sending Jesus!! :)

  • Thank you for being born Jesus.

  • Merry Christmas. . .the king of the world was born!!!!

  • There are no birth records for Jesus, nor any first hand accounts of his life. It is possible that Matthew/Luke were referring to a myth when they talked of Jesus' and his early life. It seems highly likely that Luke was thinking of the famous Roman myth (that was around well before the Jesus' myth) of Romulus and Remus - who also were born by a virgin, and also had a king ordering the slaughter of all the other children in the same area.

  • @jediknight28 Oh, dang. He must of never existed then! Sorry folks, Christianity is a fraud! Nothing to see here, keep moving. Jediknight28 has exposed the truth and hundreds of millions of people over the centuries were WRONG! Keep moving..I know, let's all abandon Christianity and try that other catchy religion Islam! All hail Sharia law!

    /sarcasm

  • @flamengishta I would not suggest converting to Islam. Obviously i never even suggested that.

  • @flamengishta lol...i shouldnt ..but that made me lol.... why do people make such a fuss trying to dispute jesus, why cant they just let folk get on and believe instead of trying to change our views and beliefs..

  • Thank God for the Lord's birth! Forgive us for our sin of killing the Messiah. Who knows what would have happened if everyone accepted Him?

  • @richelljalipa We must not mourn, because Jesus is not dead. His Spirit is very much alive and He is with us through the power of the Holy Spirit. For love of Christ many Christians are sorrowful and believe that if Jesus had lived, the world would be a better place. You must read the Scriptures very carefully because within them, God has destined for Jesus to die for our sins. It was foretold in the First Testament. Had Jesus lived we would still be in our sins.

  • We would like to use this for our Christmas Concert, is there somewhere I can download it? Thanks!

  • @AMEstrada21 yes the church says that because she was born without sin she didnt suffer through the pain that is childbirth, However and yes I do know all things are possible through god but wouldnt you think that you would feel some pain from childbirth you got to think a baby weighs approx between 6-8 lbs on average and normal head size is between 13-15 cms how did she deliver the baby? obviously we dont know because we were not there but maybe it didnt hurt who knows?

  • let me get this right, so the Jewish law says to stone prostitutes (how very loving of a loving God??) and as they were about to stone a prostitute, Jesus said:" Let he who is without sin throw the first stone"... and suddenly the Jews, some of them priests probably, suddenly decided:" ok, we will disregard our God's laws, and just listen to this man whom we hate and think of as a heretic, and let the prostitute walk away"?? doesn't add up!!

  • i like this video

    see all mothers and sons must

  • As a roman catholic and was taught in a roman catholic primary and secondary school. I was taught that Jesus was created by the lord and was born by the virgin mary to flesh and blood with one purpose: to teach the word of God to all those who believe and do no believe and to build the kngdom of heaven on earth and that he died to forgive the sinners of the world. why? because he is our brother and he loves us. That is my belief. Whether you agree is your choice. Thank you.

  • Joseph and the angel look like relatives.

  • I don't think Jesus was born on 25 december .Just read the Bible and Qur'an ... than u can find out the truth. probably(sure) jesus was born in Summer (august-september)not in Winter ... 'coz in winter ,in jerusalem is not Kurma season !!!

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  • One more ... Even in the movie is showing no winter ,no snow but summer n savannah :) ,peace !!!

  • @alieninzurich This is accurate. The bible account is that "shepherds were in the fields watching their sheep by night". That doesn't happen in December in that part of the world. Winter brings rains to the middle east.

  • i cry every time i watch this movie because i have seen jesus three times this year i have photographed him on my moms phone he appeared at the churchhouse santuary he had the prettiest eyes you have ever seen this is no joke please respond to this

  • @hoodie471 wow. Even though I'm Jewish that is amazing. People say that Jews don't believe in Jesus but that is not true.

    All I can say is wow. Somebody actually saw Jesus. That must've been surely amazing.

  • My entire American family of 5 were terrorized by MANIAC JEWISH ZIONIST MILTANTS AT AN ILLEGAL TERROR CELL CALLED BET EL.

    TRAVEL WARNINGs for AMERICANS - Israelis are attacking AMERICAN CHRISTIAN FAMILIES TOURING THE HOLY LAND.....WE WERE ALMOST KILLED BY DRAFTED JEWISH KIDS CALLING THEMSELVES SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF IRGUN TERROR GROUP.... I have full documented proof by my senator and congressman of the terrorist attack by jews on my American family.

  • The actor playing Joseph does such a good, sweet job when Jesus is born.

  • do not ever forget for a secon that my ancestors from middle east sold this vacuum cleaner of religion to the innocent west and the world.

  • We, Asians, are expert in selling vacuum cleaners to the world.

    we sold the vacuum cleaner of judaism and chrisianity to the world.

    we sold the vacuum cleaner of islam to the world

    we sold the vacuum cleaner of Hinduism, sikhism and budhism to the world.

    Ever wondered why no prophet or bhagwan was ever born in England, Poland, Holland, new Zealand, Australia or brazil.

    we specialize in creating and selling the vacuum cleaners in the name of religion.

  • @LIVEMeltdown4ROCK

    paganism, monotheism, all are figment of human mind.

  • we, asians are expert in selling vacuum cleaners to the world.

    we sold the vacuum cleaner of judaism and chrisianity to the world.

    we sold the vacuum cleaner of islam to the world

    we sold the vacuum cleaner of hinduism, sikhism and budhism to the world.

    ever wondered why no prophet was ever born in newzealand, aurtralia, brazil, england, or holland.

    we specialize in creating and selling the vacuum cleaners in the name of religions.

  • where is the umbilical cord? no clamping and cutting of the umbilical cord... Jesus looks to mature for a newborn infant...

  • my fave.. vid. jesus had a great life but many had hated him..and hurted him......praise him alleluiah

  • Shouldn't Jesus just pop out without pain if Mary had no original sin?

  • yes this movie has its weird moments

  • bah, bisantin discussions. Just believe man, jesus is our lord, doesnt matter if borned stand up or sleeping or whatever, he is our lord!

  • @impulse374 You are absolutely right. We as Catholics believe that she was born without sin and she had an "Immaculate Conception" meaning she didn't have to go through the pains of childbirth like we do! This scene is a FALSE account of Our blessed Mother and the birth of Jesus and is a complete heresy. And can you believe it was approved by the Vatican?? SAD, SAD ,SAD....

  • @AMEstrada21 I hate to remind you but As a Catholic no where in the bible does it ever say she had no pain matter of fact the actual birth was summed up by her time had came to pass she brought for a son and he was wrapped in swaddling clothes and yes she was immaculatly concieved but how did you imagine she was going to get a 7-8 lb baby out of her body without pain be a realist I am a mother and Child birth is painful and the vatican approved it cause it is the closest account to the bible

  • @kerwin1234567 I never said it was in the bible...you obviously didn't read my comment right. Since you call yourself a "Catholic" I thought you would know the Church teaching of Mary and Her Immaculate Conception. In fact, I thought the Vatican would know of Mary and Her Immaculate Conception and how she couldn't have felt the pains of childbirth because she was carrying the Son of God and was born without sin as the Church teaches us as well.

  • @AMEstrada21 who said it was approved by the Vatican?

  • @AMEstrada21 Does that mean that Mary's parents had to be without sin as well, and their parents, and their parents? I thought Jesus was the only sinless person on earth. If there was an immaculate conception, then Mary didn't need her son to die on a cross? Do you believe that Mary needed the blood of Christ to enter the kingdom of heaven?

  • @jjkid6 Mary's parents did not need to be concieved with out sin. Only Mary because she would be the new acr of the coevenant. She would literally house the God, so she needed to be perfect do that, this was Jewish custom. Jesus was sinless but so was Mary.

  • @jjkid6 Mary's parents did not need to be conceived with out sin. Only Mary because she would be the new arc of the covenant. She would literally house the God, so she needed to be perfect do that, this was Jewish custom. Jesus was sinless but so was Mary.

  • @AMEstrada21 it's not heresy if you're Protestant. We believe that Mary did have other children with Joseph. Both Matthew and Luke say that she gave birth to her "firstborn", which many Protestants interpret meaning that she had more than one child. It also says in Matthew that Joseph did not have marital relations with her until after Jesus was born. I understand that Catholic doctrine disagrees with this, which is fine, but not all Christians follow the same doctrines, which is fine too.

  • @sharonWIT

    Both of these things r an issue of semantics.For ex., a woman died giving childbirth. On her grave it says she died giving birth to her 1stborn.Her death makes it impossible 4 her to have more kids but 1stborn doesn't always imply there are more kids.

    Until doesn’t always imply a change, let's look @ another passage in the bible."4 he must reign, TILL he hath put all enemies under his feet." (1 Cor. 15:25) If the same logic is followed it implies that Christ reign will come to an end

  • @sharonWIT Part 1: Well, when "firstborn" is mentioned in scripture it relates to the tradition of the "firstborn" becoming the families Spiritual father or Priest, but to get into that we'd have to rehash a 5,000 year narrative of Priestly typology - which is a reason Protestants don't have them, because they don't acknowledge that. Its OK, use the Bible that came to you through the Catholic Church, in which Luke and Matthew are kept separate and intact (a decision made by The Catholic Church)

  • @sharonWIT "Firstborn" is used specifically to reference a longer "Priest narrative typology" that cuts throughout the Old and New Testament (I know, Protestants don't have Priests.) You got the story from Matthew and Luke (two texts kept separate and included by The Catholic Church). From which you celebrate Christmas - originally Christ's Mass (I know, Protestants don't have Mass) on December 25 (a Catholic Feast, long outlawed by Protestants). Your right, Protestants think whatever they want

  • @AMEstrada21

    i don't know what Bible you be reading but eve sinned Mary went through child birth

    God doesn't make exceptions

  • Not for nothing they call it "labor". Joseph, a newlywed in name only, gets a crash course in midwifery. If it was really like this, Mary and Joseph deserve to be

    venerated.

  • if jesus had been found, abandoned, in a dumpster what would a nativity scene look like? if he had been hanged, would people be wearing little nooses around their necks? wake up folks. just be spiritual beings & you might not need so much religion. everyone should watch the first twenty minutes of the movie Zeitgeist. just google it. it's free. start thinking.

  • I saw that movie. The first part has many lies, wich get repeated in fan-boys of the movie web pages. One of them was some mitology idol being born from a virgin, when you look it up, it was born from a rock. It has 2 or 3 more lies. So I wonder why would somebody make a movie with twisted information for no reason? not to mention the delirius ending

  • born from a virgin, from a rock, from a cat, what does it matter? he is my lord!

  • @samuraifugitivo

    my dog is my lord.

  • @samuraifugitivo

    my dog is my savior too.

    his sister gave birth to puppies, but she never had a boyfriend or husband. it must have been yahweh, who did that.

  • @zulfitareen and you are a donkey

  • jesus is so cute!

  • AMAZING SCENE!!!!

  • That is a good thing! Much more accurate!

  • oh, give me a freaking break!

  • What does that mean?

  • jesus be with you all and bless you everyone

    the love of god be with you

    I Wish You In The Name Of God Merry Christmas

    I Love You Jesus

    Dont Forget

    I am the light of the world; who follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life John 8:12

  • whats the song called?

  • God made into flesh. 'Matthew 7:8

    For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened." If you know Truth, the Truth shall set you free. Merry Christmas.

  • Oh awesome this will play automatically as a feat. vid, perfect to use in channel right now.

  • Oh, and thank you for posting this. Such a powerful scene.

  • Let us all realize what CHRISTmas is REALLY about. Not about presents...

  • Wise men were originally sent to kill Jesus. According to the Bible, the Devil used the stars to guide the wise men to Jesus. Also, Jesus was not born on December 25th. It was more than likely in October/November. Lastly, when the wise men came to visit Jesus, Joseph and Mary were living in a house, not a stable. You would think that they would at least do a little research before they go and make a movie about the story.

  • zechariah incensed the tabernacle and elizabeth conceived john (sept. 25).. gabriel announced to mary that she would be the mother of christ (march 25) then mary became pregnant that day.. add 9 months.. dec. 25...

  • Where are you getting your information about when Elizabeth conceived John because it's wrong wrong wrong.

  • read the gospel of luke... and research about the feast of the tabernacle or the dedication of the temple.. so you won't take facts as lies..

  • Elizabeth conceived right after Zacharias returned home after performing his duties during the course of Abijah. If you read 1 Chronicles 24 it details the different courses. Beginning on Nisan 1, the courses were 1 week in length, skipping a week for the passover. Abijah was the 8th course which is 9 weeks after Nisan 1. Then all the priests would work Pentecost, the 10th week. His course ran from June 3rd to June 17th of the Julian calendar.

  • That means the conception was likely June 18th through July 1st. Jesus was conceived 6 months after that, which would be in Late December, early January. That puts Jesus' birth at around the end of September. Couple that knowledge with the fact that when Mary and Joseph arrived, the flocks were outside at night. That's the cold/rainy season of Palestine and the shepherds did not keep their flocks out. I could also discuss the census being taken as well as the reason the inns were all full.

  • TheT4xid3rmist -

    Do you have evidence that the Magi/wise men were originally sent to kill Jesus? Because there's no Scriptural evidence for that, nor is there any for that Satan/stars theory.

    However, a strict literal conformance to trivial things (i.e. legalism, NOT that Jesus' birth was trivial; absolutely not) such as the exact birth-date of Jesus is not the message of Scripture. The message of Scripture is being accurately portrayed in this film: Jesus' birth, and the purpose he brings.

  • Read the second chapter of Matthew. Herod sends the astrologers to find Jesus and report back to him the location of Jesus. Herod told them that he wished to do obeisance to him but in reality, he wanted to kill Jesus. That was the reason he sent the wise men. The wise men themselves didn't know the plot. The point is, they were used as pawns to do the bidding of Herod. Why would God use a star to lead the men who would report the position of Jesus to Herod?

  • It's a reasonable theory, but it doesn't make sense that Satan would manipulate them to Jesus' location, then fail on the part of them not returning so Herod could kill him. God used the star to guide them to Jesus because the Magi were Gentiles, and Jesus is the "light of revelation to the Gentiles". So, in essence, the star was used to introduce Jesus to the Gentiles, it was a revelation; what better way to reveal than through the witness of 'wise men'?

  • He didn't fail. An angel told Joseph and Mary to flee to Egypt. After Herod learned of Jesus' birthplace he had all the male children in Bethlehem killed.

    Also, those wise men, or astrologers were practicing something that God does not think too kindly of. Would God have led someone partaking of something seriously disapproved of in the Bible to his son? Also, the star first led them to Herod, then led them to Jesus. There are no other accounts of anyone else seeing the star.

  • I won't debate with you about any of the points you made; many of them are true. But..

    "Would God have led someone partaking of something seriously disapproved of in the Bible to his son?"

    Absolutely. Satan is an instrument utilized to test, and accuse; this applies to the Magi. There are many examples in Scripture where God doesn't condone certain things, but they are done nonetheless, the reason being that all things are directed, as a means, to achieve his ultimate end (or goal).

  • So if you are saying Satan is an instrument utilized by God, that means you are accrediting God with all the bad things that happen to people.

  • Certainly, but I would prefer not to discuss this on an open forum. I'll be more than happy to elaborate through PM, if you wish.

  • "The LORD said to him, "Who has made man's mouth? Or who makes him mute or deaf, or seeing or blind? Is it not I, the LORD?" (Exodus 4:11)

  • Interesting scripture. Here God was talking to Moses. Moses lacked confidence in his ability to speak. God was pretty much saying "Can I not control speech and sight? "

    James 1:13 (KJV): "Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man."

  • "So now the LORD has put a lying spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours. The Lord has decreed disaster for you. (1 Kings 22:23)

  • God had decreed that wicked Ahab would be destroyed. Ahab allowed Baal worship to infect Israel on an unprecedented scale due to his early marriage to Jezebel. God also wanted Ahab to kill Ben-hadad, the Syrian, who led an assault against God's people. Instead Ahab spared him and created an alliance with him for his own personal benefit. Pretty much Ahab was a despicable character. This was God's land. His people. To preserve his land and people, he had to punish Ahab.

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  • It took two years before the wise men came...

  • Book of Genesis (3:15): "I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed; she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel."

  • It is so amazing; the movie, the scene, the gifts that God give us all the time and most of our life we don't see them. In all these comments I'm seeing, I believe we're seeing a beautiful gift in front of us. Am i right?

  • makes me wanna cry its so beautiful. I am so proud to be christian and to celebrate the day that Jesues of born. Christmas day. All Hail the lord