Albert Mohler on Joel Osteen

[ESTACINIA]

But Osteen never talks as if the Christianity were owned by only out-dated, cultures-disrespecting cult.

[bushwackboys]

Have you ever herd of having sweet lips? Its in the Bible. Not one person should condemn anybody.

[podgorneyjohn]

Joel Osteen does not preach the whole gospel. Very disappointing.....

[Wunji1]

For someone who doesn't know anything, he sure leads a lot of people, and makes lots of money - sounds dangerously like our government as well...

[dougmoerhoffman]

This video is either really encouraging or really disappointing....

[changeishere2008]

Thank God Joel Osteen is not condeming folks to Hell. I wish people would leave the man alone.

If he dosn't know... let him be I am sure God will reveal it to him in the right time.

[joetrainer31]

Wow. Joel's type of false teaching is so prevalent in today's "Christianity" and so dangerous.

[Den12tribe]

Does yoga acknowledge Jesus Christ? Does it edify God? Many need to study the Hindu idol worship before they speak ignorance!!!By the way ....if Hinduism is so great, who so much POVERTY in India and other Hindu nations....not to mention Buddhism.....These countries are poverty stricken...we see it on tv constantly, yet we embrace their pathetic idols and yoga....logic folks....

[TheLORDismySheperd1]

YOGA means, "Yoked to Brahman". (Brahman, in the Hindu religion, is the eternal, unchanging, infinite, immanent, and transcendent reality which is the DIVINE ground of all matter, energy, time, space and being.)

[MGiants82]

@robzombay72 I could not help but notice the conversation on the top about the yoga thing. Ok yes the video was nothing about that subject but, Mohler is an attention whore. I believe he is a very dangerous religious nut and I would bet to see a story on yahoo with him saying dont celebrate halloween because its not "christian" like.

[TacticusPrime]

Clearly Osteen is not a real Christian pastor. It's funny to agree with such a clearly delusional person. But if you're gonna identify with an ancient superstition, then you really ought to go all the way. Jesus may have said, turn the other cheek, but God told the Jews to not spare any of Canaanites, not even children or animals. Read the end of Second Kings 2.

[robzombay72]

This guy mohler is a ridiculous jackass, HOW can YOGA be against christianity, typical religeous nut.

[ChrisHobeck]

@robzombay72

1) This video has nothing to do with Dr. Mohler's views on yoga.

2) You seem very intolerant and closed-minded towards his beliefs on yoga.

3) What theological argument or Bible verses can you use to support the use of yoga (a Hindu spiritual practice) by Christians?

[robzombay72]

@ChrisHobeck Because it's exercise with some spirituality, the only reason he made a big deal about it was to get attention, because saying Yoga is not for christians sounds SOOOO ridiculous that the media has to broadcast it. ,so he got his wish. He's an ass and if you are so brainwashed that you believe it too, you are a fool as well.

[ChrisHobeck]

@robzombay72 But the spirituality which is the basis for yoga (namely Hinduism) is contradictory to Christianity. Two contradictory beliefs can't both be true, and both of those religions make contradictory statements.

Once again I'm left with questions: 1) Why did you post here when this clip is unrelated to yoga? 2) Why are you so closed-minded and intolerant towards the idea that Christianity and yoga are incompatible? 3) How do I know you're not just doing this so you can receive attention?

[ArianismisHeretical]

@robzombay72Maybe you need to go right to the source and see what real Hindu gurus from India have to say. Here is a comment from B.K.S Iyengar fromhis book "Light On Yoga" p 40 "the yogi conquers the body by the pracice of asanas making it a fit vehicle for the spirit...he does not consider the body his property...the yogi realizes his life and all activities are part of the divine nature"."Asanas aren't physical exercises..they have biochemical,psycho-physiologic­al and psycho-spiritual effects

[robzombay72]

@ChrisHobeck Because it's exercise with some spirituality, the only reason he made a big deal about it was to get attention, because saying Yoga is not for christians sounds SOOOO ridiculous that the media has to broadcast it. ,so he got his wish. He's an ass and if you are so brainwashed that you believe it too, you are a fool as well. Osteen is a standup guy but Mohler is a media whore.

[nasticanasta]

@atestring it's very obvious...you can never pin this guy down when you ask where he stands...he can't even quote the Bible, when being interviewed by Katie Kurick of all people..she was the only one who quoted Boble scripture. Plus one listen to his doctrine seals it. As noted by others here over and over, he never mentions hell or sin...when asked it by Lary King , ol' Joel just hem-hawed and avoided the whole issue. Go read the Gospels and you won't see those guys never backed off like Joel.

[nasticanasta]

@atestring oh he has a reason...the almighty dollar!

[SbcPlanter]

Joel Osteen can smile all he wants to and his congregation can believe what he's "preaching", but I promise they won't be smiling if they don't know Christ as Savior. Jesus calls us to share the gospel with all nations and what Joel is doing is not following what Jesus has commanded us to do.

[CBALLEN]

Our heart is deceitful above all things,God has already looked at everyones heart and said they are all wicked,so why would God have to look at our heart to know if we are saved or not?He doesn't,He saves us Himself in spite of our hearts.

[flatpat1]

Got news for you all, 90% of you fake christians will be burning in hell for enternity. Prepare you souls for eternal torment. repent now by giving your earthly possessions to the poor and unwanted children. Remember this life is merely a test and a snap of the fingers.God wants your total commitment to enter heaven. So remember, buy a new car, enter hell, buy a new house, burn in hell, buy jewelry,go on fancy vacations instead of putting food in the poors mouth and go to hell.

REPENT NOW

[parakeethands]

@atestring Yes he makes me feel good about myself. Not that I am narcissistic but he makes a person come pretty close. :) After "Your Best Life Now" I want to run through fields of green screaming my name and leaping for joy.

[parakeethands]

@atestring Yes Joel Osteen is inspiring! Makes me want to go and bake chocolate chip cookies and drink ridiculously large chocolate milkshakes!

[thursdaysrecords]

I find much more harm in all of this fabricated nonsense than good. That is probably because so many people have clearly found a very profitable business in the blind faith of the masses. Entire nations and industries have arisen, all living comfortably from the cash cow religion.

It's each one's choice to play along. Just like gambling and getting drunk is legal, all those roads lead to loss and destruction. If that's your bag, enjoy!

[nasticanasta]

@thursdaysrecords I find it hillarious someone would waste his time on a subject he feels does not even exist.

[thursdaysrecords]

Religion is bullshit. Those swallowing it have my pity but not my respect.

[nasticanasta]

and yet here you are....I find it far stranger you are here to give your opinion on something that doesn't exist.

[nasticanasta]

He smiles... to the bank. where he stores up riches that can be stolen or rust

[nasticanasta]

He certainly does not preach the gospel.. he says "I don't know alot"

[skiersarah]

Wow, this poor guy, Joel, is just so confused as to where to stand. Fortunately, we have men like Mohler and Macarthur to stand for the Truth. Perhaps Olsteen WILL grow from this experience ONE day! To God be the Glory when that happens

[fbarrios56]

2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but {wanting} to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires,

2 Tim 4:4 and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.

2 Tim 4:5 But you, be sober in all things, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.

[itsnolongeri]

if someone died how could they make someone pope?

[nasticanasta]

Excellent ridiculous answer for an absolutely ridiculous question! Touche'

[itsnolongeri]

@nasticanasta thanx:)

[itsnolongeri]

Hes sure does, he live's in a reality of his own imagination, and share's a gospel of his own invention, enjoying the pleasure's of sin for a season.

[crunchyorange]

Joel Osteen's ministry is to lead people to Lakewood church. Where those people go from there doesn't concern him in the least - by his own admission.

[ChrisHobeck]

Ah, but note: Is his emphasis the same as the emphasis in Jesus' preaching? I've never once heard Joel Osteen talk about hell, sin, and Judgment Day, all things which Jesus Himself spoke of in the Bible. In fact, one could easily argue that Jesus spoke more about hell than He did about heaven.

[KIFulgore]

Mohler's stance on childless couples is disgraceful -- he needs to focus on more important issues than bashing couples who choose not to have children.

[polkadotbox2]

Live and let live. Why is it so difficult for some people to just get along with everyone else. Life's too short for the ugliness. Less Limbaugh and more Oprah, and there will be more peace and tranquility. There's no place for al the hate in the future.

Osteen is a much better human being than an of those mean spirited divisionists. Peace is with those who love peace.

When I do bad things, I feel bad. When I do good things I feel good. That's my "religion". I wouldn't trade my character.

[nasticanasta]

it's funny that people who claim to be so tollerant have no tollerance for different beliefs. and truth be known, there are no REAL liberals... for they don't tollerate others with different ideals. and as i see it, by your remarks... you're frustrated and full of anger. ... olsteen does this under the guise of a christain preacher

[lalalaGIR]

"Truth be known"? Do you believe that the truth can be known??? If you know that truth are you going to call what is contrary to the truth true??? No. Truth is inherently intolerant to lies. It is NOT loving or encouraging OR tolerant to teach heresy that damns people to hell.

[nasticanasta]

so holding back truth is love? people do damn themselves to hell. it is real... olsteens a cop out like a politician, he won;t say something that might make someone leave his cash cow system.

[nasticanasta]

so if we are in a plane and it is falling from the sky...it would be wrong for me to tell you about how to save yourself from the impending death with a parachute I have for you...we wouldn't want to upset you further.

[nasticanasta]

Pilot said the exact same thing to Jesus...John 18:38 -

" 38"What is truth?" Pilate asked. With this he went out again to the Jews and said, "I find no basis for a charge against him.."

Also by your clear statements to whether truth can be known means at best what you said was untrue.

[polkadotbox2]

When I say I don't care, I'm talking about the lectures. I'm not impressed by the finger-shaking of arrogant hate mongers. I don't carew about hell or heaven, because I don't believe they exist.

I don't care about the teachings of people I can't respect. My life and the way I live it make this world a little bit better place. I make a difference that counts. Osteen is a positive force. Mohler is not.

[ChrisHobeck]

Positivity is not as important as truth. What if Joel Osteen is wrong?

[polkadotbox2]

The only way to happiness is BEING A GOOD PERSON. Talking and dictating dogma to others doesn't make this a better world. BEING A GOOD PERSON makes this a better world.

If there is a God (I doubt it, but I admit I just don't know - YOU don't admit that you don't know either!), Osteen gets to heaven before MacArthur does.

A genuinely good person is always better than a piss and vinegar egomaniac.

The future belongs to those who get along with everyone. MacArthur isn't made of that stuuf!

[nasticanasta]

and here you are not getting along...... alot of people thought Hitler was good. you only see things through your own eyes. take a look in the mirror.

[XarisGuitars]

You can't BE a good person apart from being IN Christ. Your hippie philsophy of "Let's just all get along and love each other" doesn't hold any water in the real world. What you're really saying is that you want everyone to forsake a belief in objective, absolute truth. That is an untenable position. Osteen tries that, and you can see how he is so unstable and uncommital. You HAVE to believe something is true and therefore something else is not.

[TheSeth011]

@XarisGuitars Amen that. Osteen is a dangerous man.

[parakeethands]

@ChrisHobeck Then he would be positively wrong. I guess positivity is important afterall. :) lol.

[dbic123]

No. Osteen is clearly preaching a different gospel. Mohler is the one who truly cares. There's nothing more loving than the truth.The problem is most people do not take God serious.The Word of God is where the truth is.A gospel that elevates man, doesn't warn people to repent, warns not to deny self but fulfill self-is no gospel at all.Jesus said to love not the things of the world: John 12:25 "He who loves his life loses it, and he who hates his life in this world will keep it to life eternal."

[nasticanasta]

it's not attacl if its fact... truth is, Olsteen dosnt teach the gospel, which is what Jesus taught us to do....The Great Commision. There is nothing wrong with pointing out heracy. In fact we are told to do so... ya know... Jehovah's Witnesses dont preach on hell either.

[polkadotbox2]

You forget that a growing number of people just don't care about this "debate". We already have a life, as we were born just fine the first time.

[nasticanasta]

here's where you fail yourself..... if you did't care, you wouldnt even be here or replying.... the very fact you do shows you care... so now not only are you incorrect.. you're a liar too. thank you! :)

[polkadotbox2]

Evangelical Christianity serves as a never ending source of argument about absolutely nothing. A worthless waste of time, enhanced by unnecessary anger and unpleasantness. If THAT is what God wanted, His work here is done!

[nasticanasta]

And yet here you are.

[thursdaysrecords]

My Christian Extremism is better than your Christian Extremism. We are like Hammas and Fattah, like the Orange and the Green, like Henry VIII and The Pope.

It's all the same BS. Enjoy your sectarian rivalry, but leave me and a growing number of intelligent self-thinkers alone! There's nothing good coming from your kind of obsession.

Life's too short for all this crap. I'm quite happy with reality, the place where you live one good life, then die and stay dead, without regrets.

PEACE!

[ChrisHobeck]

How do you know that there will be no regrets when you die? How do you know you will stay dead?

[polkadotbox2]

O DON'T KNOW. Nobody KNOWS. You and those evangelical preachers claim to KNOW soemthing nobody can possibly know. They are WRONG in making these absolute claims. I leave room for the remote chance I'm wrong in my beliefs.

I don't believe in life after death. I don't KNOW for sure. I assume YOU do know? If you claim to KNOW the unknowable, you are wrong.

Osteen leaves room for "other" possibilities. He believes in God, but he doesn't make claims that aren't his to make. Good for him!

[ChrisHobeck]

How do you know that we cannot know? What evidence do you have to support such an assertion?

[polkadotbox2]

Your message makes no sense. How do I know the we cannot know the unknowable? YOU don't know the unknowable. Accept at least THAT as a God damn FACT, you thick-skulled dogmaniac!

[ChrisHobeck]

You are making a hypothesis (that we cannot know what is after death). I am merely asking for evidence for that hypothesis.

[polkadotbox2]

What EVIDENCE could possibly disprove something that's completely MADE UP?

Give me some evidence that there is no Loch Ness Monster. Then prove to me that there is no galxy of stars made entirely of Swiss Cheese.

The burde of proof is on the one who insists the unknowable can be proven. You lose!

[ChrisHobeck]

Anyone who makes a proposition has a burden to prove that it is true. I have a proposition (the Bible is entirely reliable and accurate, and 100% true) and have historical, archaeological, & scientific evidence to back it up. You propose that it is impossible to know what happens after death. What is your evidence?

One can prove there is no Loch Ness Monster by draining the Loch Ness and seeing if there's a monster inside. One can prove the composition of a galaxy by using a spectrometer.

[MattressGallery]

@ChrisHobeck

Unfortunately for you, neither science, history, nor archeology confirm that the Bible is true. The same spectrophotometry that indicates the composition of the universe suggests that it is billions of years old. The Bible, on the other hand, contains a very precise geneology of Adam's progeny that claims it is only 6,000.

The Bible says that Jews were slaves in Egypt for hundreds of years. NO historical or archaeological evidence indicates this. There are so many more examples.

[nasticanasta]

of course this means you don't know also. at least Mr. Mohler has a guide.. you are just guessing with failed human thinking.... and if you're going to suggest the government never lied to you or science from men with an agenda..... yes, he has agenda.. which more than i can say for you..... and since neither of us has empirical knowledge of the universe..... I'm banking on a creator... instead of random chaos. lol what do yo uhave to lose??

[nasticanasta]

Olsteen is a glorified "self-help" Tony Robbins. He is no more than that.

[nasticanasta]

and yet here you are.

[nasticanasta]

and yet you are.....wasting time on things you say are of no importance... good thing your time is spent so wisely.

[EphesiansSixTwelve]

Mohler claims to be 'christian' yet he gushes over George W. Bush who is a known occultist (Skull and Bones; Bohemian Grove.) Will Mohler help bring in a world luciferian church?

[nasticanasta]

@EphesiansSixTwelve lol bohemian grove...lol alex jones groupie! looks like you are no different from joel olsteen followers

[gbologa]

Mr. Osteen, you are so, so right. YOU DON"T KNOW!!!! What a shame that you stand up and lead million down the wrong path!!!

[nasticanasta]

it truely is sad I agree