What a relief that instead of mocking, Steve Allen compares Frank to the choreographer whom he refers to as a "genius." You can tell in his tone of voice at the end that he knew that what he encountered was visionary.
Cool that Frank got everyone to participate in totally improvised child's play. He told them to forget all their music theory and sense of formality and have fun. I would dare to say that rhyme Steve Allen broke out perhaps inspired some of Frank's own humorous lyrics over unique compositions.
I love how the band just makes random animal sounds because they don't know how else to make "unmusical" sounds. Also I really wanna know what's up with Suzy and that mysterious bird at the end...
When Steve returns to his desk, he handed his mike to Johnny Wison who was the stage manager for this show, Johnny and Steve would often be engaged in some very halarious bits in and outside of the studio. This series that Steve did for Westinghouse Broadcasting was shown on tape delay in several markets across thae USA, including WBZ TV4 in Boston. It perhaps represents some of the most creative and CLEAN comdy that has ever been prsented in the history of TV. Thank you for the posting.
Steve Allen was the best thing on TV in its time. The list of music greats who had their first appearances on his show, is impressive, and Allen himself was a great jazz musician and composer. He was non-discriminating in a time when most people were, and offered opportunity to young and innovative artists who might never have flourished without shows like his.
The people in the program, crew and audience, don´t grasp the concept. But I think Zappa is experiment with all of them to later improve this by his own, LOL.
So weird to see Zappa young and nervous, for all the charisma he picked up in later years. Props to Steve Allen for the right amount of humor for his 1960s audience without going so far as to ridicule Mr. Zappa.
Elvis was a joke, and if this guy caught on to Zappa and let him do something like this this early in his career, I'm assuming that the show probably forced him to take Elvis and he was like "HERD DERP, CREATIVE CONTROL, PUT A FUCKING DOG UP THERE" as a joke. Very fitting indeed.
zappa 'seemed' to take himself serious (playing a bike) and allen 'seemed' to mock. both knew what they were doing. and allens little chat at the end showed he knew where zappa was at. :0)
This man was a genius and no question there. His poetry is legendary. My guy friends often quote whole albums of his.This vid simply proves that he is also excentric like so many true geniuses have been. Also that his brilliant mind works totally different than the average one. It is fascinating.
Steve Allen, I had forgotten how square and conventional he looked back then. That was startling. I had to remind myself what he was all about to not think he was making fun of him.
It was a marvelous time in american history, when you think about it..steve allen also did a full episode with jack kerouac, accompanying the poetry on piano, producing some great results. Nothing like this would be possible in america now. Frank Zappa's actual greatness is yet to be acknowledged- but it will be, and maybe Mr. Allen sensed something here.
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Garbage! The only difference between FZ with a bike and a 5-year old with a bike is the five year-old has an excuse for doing this. I don't understand why people call this genius, the only thing that makes FZ (or anyone who does things like this on stage) different is that he doesn't care how foolish he looks! I am not saying anything about his music and composing, that's another story, but this is crap! How can people get angry @ the host, FZ is not doing anything to be taken seriously.
Steve Allen looks confused, as if he doesn't know whether to keep selling out and to appease the croud that way or to give in to the new wave. Genius Zappa.
Hats off to Steve Allen, he was very engaged and supportive of Zappa.. way back when Zappa was unheard of. I think modern talk hosts (like Kimmel, Jay Leno, Letterman) would shoot someone like this down and ridicule them, as an easy target for inflating their own egos and amusing the audience. Conan wouldn't though; because like Steve Allen he has class and a sense of taste. It takes guts to push something this unusual on your crowd and accentuate the positive aspects of it.
@dwarfish You seem like the only guy with lots of "thumbs up" votes to get it right. I 100% agree with you. Thanks for identifying both Alllen and Zappa's virtues as artists as well as capturing their senses of humor. Allen is 100% sincere at the end praising Zappa's "farsighted[ness]" and in calling his appearence "stimulating." Allen shows his on farsightedness and creative artistry in the way he handled the whole segment.
@dwarfish He was initially a snobbish prick, and I think Zappa's creativity broke him down. He wanted to keep making fun of it, but somewhere deep inside his integrity took over.
Zappa was a devotee of Edgard Varese, Igor Stravinsky, Debussey, Coltrane, Sun Ra, Lord Buckley and had the great, great fortune of growing up in 40's - 50's California where was space galore and a freedom which has utterly evaporated in America. You couldn't have a corporate media to have a Zappa on TV or radio today, which robs us of our own.
Perhaps you can identify my lie. You make no sense.
Interesting about the thinking versus feeling. Any observer would probably find that the more reasoned and reasonable discourse is coming from my side and that your side is endless emotional invective.
@alexrobes I would have to vehemently disagree there.
Mr. Zappa's last "stunt guitarist" Mike Keneally is rather fearless in his pursuit of his muse. He's sure not aiming for the Billboard charts with "Scambot 1".
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pshaw! the french were doing this 30 years before! :D
as far as steve allen, it was his show - he was doing his schtick and zappa had to expect that. good for him for having him on...listen at 2:28 until the end, keep in mind that his audience were people that had never heard stuff like this - he appealed to them.
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It sounds a bit like early Edgar Varese. i.e. "Ionization"...If you listen carefully to his early Mothers albums, he incorporated a lot of these kinds of tonal sounds.
Steve Allen was a very accomplished musician in his own right. He played Clarinet and Piano. Having Frank on wasn't just amusing, it reflected his love of music and interest in musicians.
Yes yes! And it doesn't stop there. I have this album where he accompanied Jack Kerouac during some of his poetry readings, playing the piano. The world has changed, that's for sure. Visionaries though, they'll simply never die. I'm not sure if I'll ever have children, but if I do, I'll definitely show them this strange beauty that only a select few seem to have an eye for... also, I don't know why I typed all that but just bare with me please, haha.
Do you think he was intentionally making a Duchamp reference with the bicycle? I know he was into avant-garde music, but the image of the bike and the ready made-ness of the sound is also pretty Duchampian.
@AgentCProductions I was going to ask you why you thought Zappa was stupid then I went to your channel page and saw you were a 14 year old girl...nevermind.
Thanks so much for posting this, I enjoyed it immeasurably! I think Steve was totally in step with what Zappa was doing here. What we see here are the seeds of what would become Zappa's approach to his future live performances.
@bandit7498 It's not really supposed to sound "good". It's more like an exercise in allowing yourself to let go and find some interesting sounds/techniques and think outside of the box. So, yeah, it's not something great to listen to, but it's definitely something to learn from.
how awesome would it have been if he got terry bozzio to play bicycle at a concert some time. just banging around on the frame and stuff! bet they could have worked some sweet stuff into a song.
Deftly done. I'll bet that backstage Frank was more voluminous and Allen less cyncical when they talked. Despite the constraints of early '60s TV, this is still quite revealing. Thank you. FYI, check the page linked in the caption -also very informative.
I never thought I would see Frank nervous. No time for being nervous when being so forward thinking as he was, but he was young and probably not quite fully confident like he was later. I miss him, but I don't believe his creativity is gone. Legions of brilliant musicians have sprung forth from his amazing musical explorations and enriching our daily lives right this moment!
@ACEHOLETHIRTEEN he smoked dope a couple of times but didn't like it. he drank a glass of wine occasionally, but other than that you are right. unless you consider nicotine a drug...
Check out Harry Partch too. I'm sure you can find it on cd, I doubt there are any youtube clips... ;-D He was someone Zappa was into as well. Made his own instruments and created his own method of writing the music as well.
No, that's what people who use drugs (as in alcohol) always say. People who are insecure (use alcohol or drugs) always accuse creative, free-spirited, uninhibited people of using drugs, because insecure people cannot imagine doing free thinking without being high. Consequently they get high and act stupid. Genius can be free without being stupid.
Quite simple really. As you should know, Zappa didn't have much patience for drunks and druggies. He found their company unenjoyable. You find my comments patronizing--to whom? Well then, you profess to love Zappa and his work, yet you would insult one who simply reminds you of Zappa's own thoughts on drug-induced "creativity?" You are self-contradictory.
Youtube is full of fools who hide behind insults. Might it be that you are one of them? You show no creative work on youtube.
@vibratingstring If I enjoy some of Zappa's works doesn't mean I am by any means a "Zappa Zombie", agreeing with every aspect of the man's thoughts.
I made a JOKE about Zappa's weirdness. I would agree that neither drugs or alcohol are "mind-expanding". But the dude was strange to say the very least.
And to say "I show no creative work on YT" is myopic. You have zero idea of my creative output or lack thereof. Therefore, you sound like a pretentious asshole indeed.
Pretentious? Wow. That's interesting. Because you are the pretender. You dont' show any creative work on youtube. Whether you show any anywhere else I cannot know. And as you don't say where I would find your works, and I doubt you would even want to disclose them, I can see only pretense.
You are the pretender. You pretend offence, yet you certainly don't show even the slightest bit of decorum.
So you're one of those idiots that thinks you cannot criticize if you have not produced music for public consumption. Of course, by that logic, I'd also be completely unqualified to LIKE any of Mr. Zappa's works. Because I have no basis for comparison either way.
That's a seriously moronic idea to say the very least.
And so now, I'm pretentious AND hypocritical, even though you have completely failed to demonstrate how I'm either.
See, there you go again, shouting obscenities to the world.
Sure, you can criticize all you want. But we all know it is just a lot of hot air. All your cursing and attempts at intimidation are a symptom of a sickness. Cowardice. You are scared and you hide behind your anonymity.
@vibratingstring Hey, if you had two brain cells to rub together, you'd see my nom de plume is far more indicative of my true ID than yours. So there's another idiotic statement on your part. (And a massively HYPOCRITICAL one at that.)
So you're outright admitting that you cannot back your idiotic assertions of hypocrisy or pretentiousness? And adding stupid assertions now too.
Well, well. As if "M. Maier" is truly an identity. There are probably at least a couple dozen of your initials and last names out there. Of course, I don't use my name on youtube, but I am identifiable. You on the other hand, are an abbreviation.
I already "backed up" my "assertions" but you do not understand them. It is somewhat like talking to a wall.
@vibratingstring Since you can't follow the bouncing ball: Liking Zappa doesn't mean I can't make a joke about drugs. My doing so does not make me a hypocrite of any sort.
No, you're simply a liar. But I fully expected that.
What a relief that instead of mocking, Steve Allen compares Frank to the choreographer whom he refers to as a "genius." You can tell in his tone of voice at the end that he knew that what he encountered was visionary.
dievampire 1 week ago
Cool that Frank got everyone to participate in totally improvised child's play. He told them to forget all their music theory and sense of formality and have fun. I would dare to say that rhyme Steve Allen broke out perhaps inspired some of Frank's own humorous lyrics over unique compositions.
AlanSessler 2 weeks ago
@AlanSessler I agree.
naneux 6 days ago
@jlynchvideo - "Suzy" was the very first allusion to, and the origin of, 'Suzy Creamcheese'. Odd to think it started there.
gaussagain 2 weeks ago
Steve Reich had been playing with something like sampling around that time also.
mmkgny 3 weeks ago
1:18 Great timing by Frank
zootallurez 1 month ago
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zootallurez 1 month ago
right on very trippy stuff by the master composer frank zappa
cron205 1 month ago
OMG---Frank created "the sound of America"!!!
Dionysos37 2 months ago
I was kinda amazed when I saw Zappa without the mustache!
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I'm just cracking up that entertainment has always been exactly that.
buzzclick500 2 months ago
Remarkable to see the young Zappa doing interesting things and getting a million people to watch! A step ahead of the pack.
juliano66 2 months ago
I love how the band just makes random animal sounds because they don't know how else to make "unmusical" sounds. Also I really wanna know what's up with Suzy and that mysterious bird at the end...
jlynchvideo 2 months ago
After watching this i have to watch thousands of other Frank Zappa vids on youtube:)
ETwin666 2 months ago
Orchestrated madness!
ItsTiedToAStick 2 months ago
ok,he was great. but if anyone else made noise like that, you'd call him a moron. But oh, he's Frank Zappa, so this performance is genial.
TheWeight87 2 months ago
Were those The Mothers? This song sounds like Toads of the Short Forest.
Zyklopz9 2 months ago
"how's your bird" LOL.
unfortunatebeam 3 months ago
that was pretty badass
JumpStop1 3 months ago
When Steve returns to his desk, he handed his mike to Johnny Wison who was the stage manager for this show, Johnny and Steve would often be engaged in some very halarious bits in and outside of the studio. This series that Steve did for Westinghouse Broadcasting was shown on tape delay in several markets across thae USA, including WBZ TV4 in Boston. It perhaps represents some of the most creative and CLEAN comdy that has ever been prsented in the history of TV. Thank you for the posting.
amtrakatsfnyc 3 months ago
Steve allen was the best TV Host. !
oregonbobv 4 months ago
Both these guys are (were) genuises.
JAQUEOBAUER 4 months ago
Nothing like some avant bike
DEADHEAD712 4 months ago 2
so type in Hows Your Bird
IExposeMormonism 5 months ago
This sounds like the roots of what later became industrial music, on the most atonal level.
MartyRotten 6 months ago
@MartyRotten atonal/dissonant music actually has much deeper roots than this.
unfortunatebeam 3 months ago
Steve Allen does well and leads us through something very out there...
rwnfrd 6 months ago
Steve Allen was the best thing on TV in its time. The list of music greats who had their first appearances on his show, is impressive, and Allen himself was a great jazz musician and composer. He was non-discriminating in a time when most people were, and offered opportunity to young and innovative artists who might never have flourished without shows like his.
waysworth 6 months ago 3
Reminds me a little of some of the "music" which Zappa's band plays during the animated sequences in his movie "Baby Snakes!"
voicetube 6 months ago
The people in the program, crew and audience, don´t grasp the concept. But I think Zappa is experiment with all of them to later improve this by his own, LOL.
racpembertondual 6 months ago
The host is totally into it. Good stuff!
dukeofearl2005 7 months ago
So weird to see Zappa young and nervous, for all the charisma he picked up in later years. Props to Steve Allen for the right amount of humor for his 1960s audience without going so far as to ridicule Mr. Zappa.
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And we have simon cowell...
ditheringtandog 7 months ago
And we have simon cowell...
ditheringtandog 7 months ago
Wow, this was actually genius. Frank and Steve talking and preparing actually had me riveted to watch all 4 parts of this video.
trexinvert 7 months ago
I think this kind of makes up for Steve forcing Elvis to sing "Hound Dog" to a real dog in a suit.
MiHiVidz 8 months ago
@MiHiVidz
Makes up for it?
Elvis was a joke, and if this guy caught on to Zappa and let him do something like this this early in his career, I'm assuming that the show probably forced him to take Elvis and he was like "HERD DERP, CREATIVE CONTROL, PUT A FUCKING DOG UP THERE" as a joke. Very fitting indeed.
Nairfy 8 months ago
zappa 'seemed' to take himself serious (playing a bike) and allen 'seemed' to mock. both knew what they were doing. and allens little chat at the end showed he knew where zappa was at. :0)
stevierigsby 8 months ago
HA! this is the future of contemporary music.... then it evolved into rock and roll? I love this crazy mess
samsoundworld 9 months ago
OH THIS IS SO ZAPPA AND SO ALLEN
TheFranjy 9 months ago
This man was a genius and no question there. His poetry is legendary. My guy friends often quote whole albums of his.This vid simply proves that he is also excentric like so many true geniuses have been. Also that his brilliant mind works totally different than the average one. It is fascinating.
Steve Allen, I had forgotten how square and conventional he looked back then. That was startling. I had to remind myself what he was all about to not think he was making fun of him.
66LifesMistress77 9 months ago
It was a marvelous time in american history, when you think about it..steve allen also did a full episode with jack kerouac, accompanying the poetry on piano, producing some great results. Nothing like this would be possible in america now. Frank Zappa's actual greatness is yet to be acknowledged- but it will be, and maybe Mr. Allen sensed something here.
unkleskratch 9 months ago
Instead of breaking a string, he burst a tyre
strummerocks 9 months ago
the beginning of industrial !
CorpusHunter 10 months ago
Am I the only one who caught the Dog Breath Variations there?
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sunrise58176 10 months ago
Garbage! The only difference between FZ with a bike and a 5-year old with a bike is the five year-old has an excuse for doing this. I don't understand why people call this genius, the only thing that makes FZ (or anyone who does things like this on stage) different is that he doesn't care how foolish he looks! I am not saying anything about his music and composing, that's another story, but this is crap! How can people get angry @ the host, FZ is not doing anything to be taken seriously.
kenorca 10 months ago
@kenorca
This here is just as much crap as yokos ''I'm sitting in a bag'' or ''i'm letting people cut off my clothes'' ''art shows''.
OropherThranduil 10 months ago
@OropherThranduil I agree, those are also major displays of crap!
kenorca 9 months ago
Rock & Roll !!
willypdyer 10 months ago
suzy creamcheese......try the bicycle lox...you'll love it ...it's a way of life !
dekekyo 10 months ago
best...zappa in best....ITALIANO cazzo LUI è ITALIANO....FUCKING CRAZY genio cazzo grande..CHE MUSIcA io adoro la bici!!!
POEoeta 11 months ago
Love FZ, the guy was a musical frontiersman
sandinator 11 months ago
great Steve - you did soemthing so + - good for you - Rebecca Skye is a new singer too. give her a chance
rebeccaskye 11 months ago
VICERAL !!!
isoldenoir 11 months ago
take acid to the "music"
it will all make sense
Jabarichonicles 1 year ago
my favorite i tune
zebra334 1 year ago
Yo I loved all 4 videos zappa Rules
dochvactech24 1 year ago
SUZIE. YES!
kieranmaestro 1 year ago
He was just too cool.
tacitus2244 1 year ago
Steve Allen looks confused, as if he doesn't know whether to keep selling out and to appease the croud that way or to give in to the new wave. Genius Zappa.
TAXavier07 1 year ago
Sounds like a yoko ono performance
cast390 1 year ago 25
Frank was definitely very intelligent but also seemed a very down-to-earth guy. Thanks for posting this.
findjinn 1 year ago
Hats off to Steve Allen, he was very engaged and supportive of Zappa.. way back when Zappa was unheard of. I think modern talk hosts (like Kimmel, Jay Leno, Letterman) would shoot someone like this down and ridicule them, as an easy target for inflating their own egos and amusing the audience. Conan wouldn't though; because like Steve Allen he has class and a sense of taste. It takes guts to push something this unusual on your crowd and accentuate the positive aspects of it.
dwarfish 1 year ago 93
@dwarfish You seem like the only guy with lots of "thumbs up" votes to get it right. I 100% agree with you. Thanks for identifying both Alllen and Zappa's virtues as artists as well as capturing their senses of humor. Allen is 100% sincere at the end praising Zappa's "farsighted[ness]" and in calling his appearence "stimulating." Allen shows his on farsightedness and creative artistry in the way he handled the whole segment.
cohenfs 11 months ago
@dwarfish You do know his intentions were to ridicule... like a "freak show"
Zeanu 7 months ago
@dwarfish Letterman actually interviewed Zappa and seemed nice.
Arrivald 7 months ago
@dwarfish Kimmel? Just more proof that a person needs only to be seen somewhere to be worthy of their own show.
JamaisMEC 6 months ago
@dwarfish I beg to differ, in part one Steve Allen seems to be trying to be funny with the tone of his voice, like when he says 'bicycle'.
House38500 6 months ago
@dwarfish He was initially a snobbish prick, and I think Zappa's creativity broke him down. He wanted to keep making fun of it, but somewhere deep inside his integrity took over.
DarkeningSkies1 2 months ago
WONDERFUL! This kind of music should be played at aylums all over the world!
fixin02 1 year ago
wow, what a mind, steve allen had no clue of his genius
westrokker 1 year ago
Zappa was a devotee of Edgard Varese, Igor Stravinsky, Debussey, Coltrane, Sun Ra, Lord Buckley and had the great, great fortune of growing up in 40's - 50's California where was space galore and a freedom which has utterly evaporated in America. You couldn't have a corporate media to have a Zappa on TV or radio today, which robs us of our own.
boodang062451 1 year ago
:20 onward sounds like something King Crimson was influenced by
cellardoor199991 1 year ago
I remember that Steve Allen had Zappa on his later shows from time to time and was a fan of Zappa's.
rossharmonics 1 year ago
You're not gonna sing for us are you Sammy?
csw3604 1 year ago
I miss you Frank.
ugmold 1 year ago
I miss him too!!!!!!!!! one of the most eclectic mind of the world!
do you know the age of Frank in this video? I guess he was very young...
unclegineye 1 year ago
@unclegineye hahhah look at the title of the video.
boojwahz 1 year ago
@unclegineye 22
rickfakkitup 1 year ago
Frank Zappa's first fail
SkroboElMagnifico 1 year ago
NOBODAY but Frank could make such insane sound s into music
wonderful!!!
kpmurphy62 1 year ago
what was the thing he said at 1:30
llbuono 1 year ago
wow this steve allen guy was awesome. hes actually funny.
AllWalksofLife 1 year ago
Steve Allen indirectly called Mr. Zappa a genius. Mr. Allen also had foresight.
EthanKolasinski 1 year ago
don't feed the troll
fruhko 1 year ago
@fruhko lol sounds like the sings they have at the zoo
DIZamudio 4 months ago
This is the best thing I have seen him do and it is complete shit.
buckyew2 1 year ago
Incredible. Nice way to start your career as a composer.
lucyblanddotcom 1 year ago
That´s the sound in my mind on Sunday morning
ViciousMaximus 1 year ago 2
Perhaps you can identify my lie. You make no sense.
Interesting about the thinking versus feeling. Any observer would probably find that the more reasoned and reasonable discourse is coming from my side and that your side is endless emotional invective.
vibratingstring 1 year ago
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It seems a music zoo, and that's a compliment
sedpluit 1 year ago
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sedpluit 1 year ago
ahead of his time
jaimesuarez13 1 year ago
it is so sad that experimentation like this will never happen on a network show ever again.
the age of taking chances in entertainment died with zappa.
alexrobes 1 year ago
@alexrobes I would have to vehemently disagree there.
Mr. Zappa's last "stunt guitarist" Mike Keneally is rather fearless in his pursuit of his muse. He's sure not aiming for the Billboard charts with "Scambot 1".
mmaier2112 1 year ago
proper
Nickheylen 1 year ago
VIVA ZAPPA! !!!!.....Steve Allen too !
drumbs 1 year ago
Steve Allen does limerick slam at 1:30. LOFL
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Dfrankjazz 1 year ago
this is zappa
the genius
SNOOOOOO8 1 year ago
Hang on!
What's with the suzy creamcheese speech at the bgining of 'return of the son of monster magnet' doing at the end!?
SmurfAndBuffalo 1 year ago
Frank did exactly know what he was doing. I'm a huge Frank Zappa fan and this still made me laugh! Great stuff! Priceless.
schybba 1 year ago
pshaw! the french were doing this 30 years before! :D
as far as steve allen, it was his show - he was doing his schtick and zappa had to expect that. good for him for having him on...listen at 2:28 until the end, keep in mind that his audience were people that had never heard stuff like this - he appealed to them.
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lesdoyle2000 1 year ago
dirty love
southrules 1 year ago
So ahead of his time.
TheHellolinda 1 year ago 2
It sounds a bit like early Edgar Varese. i.e. "Ionization"...If you listen carefully to his early Mothers albums, he incorporated a lot of these kinds of tonal sounds.
elaine31347 1 year ago
@elaine31347 Zappa worshipped Varese. He also conducted and recorded his work.
redrevoIver 1 year ago
Geniale!
Kurtz1974 1 year ago
Bull!! Conan O'Brien would totally have had this on Late Night.
A2Z83 1 year ago
Suzy!?
A2Z83 1 year ago
Steve Allen was a very accomplished musician in his own right. He played Clarinet and Piano. Having Frank on wasn't just amusing, it reflected his love of music and interest in musicians.
TFMTraining 1 year ago 18
@TFMTraining It doesn't really seem that way.
888anotherusername9 1 year ago
@TFMTraining
Yes yes! And it doesn't stop there. I have this album where he accompanied Jack Kerouac during some of his poetry readings, playing the piano. The world has changed, that's for sure. Visionaries though, they'll simply never die. I'm not sure if I'll ever have children, but if I do, I'll definitely show them this strange beauty that only a select few seem to have an eye for... also, I don't know why I typed all that but just bare with me please, haha.
Zeokoz 8 months ago
Zappa was one of the greats. I only wish I had the chance to have heard him live.
JebusGrist 1 year ago
I think Steve actually appreciated it more or less. Mr. Allen is quite the musician himself.
pillgroundmudge1 1 year ago
that was cool thanks for sharing. nope, I don't have anything judgmental to add.
BrothersFreedive 1 year ago
as usual i am moved to tears by Franks good humour and gigantic balls and sheer musicality...
sanjchiro 1 year ago
Steve Allen was no snarkier than any of today's late night hosts. I think it comes with the time slot.
jafreekwa 1 year ago
Do you think he was intentionally making a Duchamp reference with the bicycle? I know he was into avant-garde music, but the image of the bike and the ready made-ness of the sound is also pretty Duchampian.
dominicfortunato 1 year ago
@dominicfortunato Are you by inference saying that Zappa was a Dadaist?
jafreekwa 1 year ago
Frank Zappa was troll before trolling was made.
ThePlatapus 1 year ago
Record release "How is your bird?" ??? Was it a joke?
djembelelle 1 year ago
this is when freedom becomes chaos.
blacklistedin 1 year ago
This is truly an amazing find!
jazzynet1 1 year ago
So Avant Garde. Zappa is king..
craw405 1 year ago
"SUZY!?!"
..."yes"
DrAdlaiAtkins 1 year ago
@DrAdlaiAtkins "What's got into ya?"
elaine31347 1 year ago
"He asked me to recite a poem!"
I wish genius could be this prevalent in today's media.
ailbubble 1 year ago 2
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Zappa is so stupid and idiots follow him. amazing.
AgentCProductions 1 year ago
@AgentCProductions I was going to ask you why you thought Zappa was stupid then I went to your channel page and saw you were a 14 year old girl...nevermind.
gbc77000 1 year ago
@AgentCProductions OMG, Liek totes! How cn anyon think that Zappa is Smart? He's like, an artist and artists are dum. I dont like artist.
JebusGrist 1 year ago
Thanks so much for posting this, I enjoyed it immeasurably! I think Steve was totally in step with what Zappa was doing here. What we see here are the seeds of what would become Zappa's approach to his future live performances.
sobebabes 1 year ago
He looks like Kramer from Seinfeld.
inhocsignovinces88 1 year ago
@inhocsignovinces88 Haha, I thought he looked more like Bob Saget.
woodwc83 1 year ago
@woodwc83 I think you're right.
inhocsignovinces88 1 year ago
TO FREAKIN FUNNY
mrkidskid 1 year ago
I do think that Steve Allen did take Frank Zappa seriously. That was cool that he even had him on the show.
velyogendra108 1 year ago
I love Frank! Zappa lives! You Are What You Is!
ChrislovesKrystal 1 year ago
the band sounds good!!!!!!!!
henrimoon 1 year ago
I'm sorry. I know Frank was cool and all, but this is just utter garbage.
bandit7498 1 year ago
he was still a budding composer
badazzpresidents23 1 year ago
@bandit7498 It's not really supposed to sound "good". It's more like an exercise in allowing yourself to let go and find some interesting sounds/techniques and think outside of the box. So, yeah, it's not something great to listen to, but it's definitely something to learn from.
rocknroll015 2 months ago
how awesome would it have been if he got terry bozzio to play bicycle at a concert some time. just banging around on the frame and stuff! bet they could have worked some sweet stuff into a song.
apbench 1 year ago
Deftly done. I'll bet that backstage Frank was more voluminous and Allen less cyncical when they talked. Despite the constraints of early '60s TV, this is still quite revealing. Thank you. FYI, check the page linked in the caption -also very informative.
countrypaul 1 year ago
sembra di vedere gli indigena
navettiere 1 year ago
I never thought I would see Frank nervous. No time for being nervous when being so forward thinking as he was, but he was young and probably not quite fully confident like he was later. I miss him, but I don't believe his creativity is gone. Legions of brilliant musicians have sprung forth from his amazing musical explorations and enriching our daily lives right this moment!
crazy8sdrums 1 year ago
Just keep in mind that this man NEVER used drugs.
ACEHOLETHIRTEEN 1 year ago 5
@ACEHOLETHIRTEEN he smoked dope a couple of times but didn't like it. he drank a glass of wine occasionally, but other than that you are right. unless you consider nicotine a drug...
westprice 1 year ago
@westprice frank's description of people on drugs: "assholes in action..."
jclarencelove3rd 1 year ago
@ACEHOLETHIRTEEN Yeah, he really didn't need them. Imagine if he did! I love Zappa. RIP
northvilletunnels 1 year ago
Zappa looks like Nicola Tesla--so cool. Interesting nazi "tulle society"-style swastika on the orchestra stand..
hallobaaaby 1 year ago 2
@hallobaaaby you are right they do look a like in a way.
rick4777 1 year ago
Amazing! There is very little risk taking anymore. There may never be another like him again.
guppytroup 1 year ago
Thanks for this!
Check out Harry Partch too. I'm sure you can find it on cd, I doubt there are any youtube clips... ;-D He was someone Zappa was into as well. Made his own instruments and created his own method of writing the music as well.
pdsnichols 1 year ago
Thanks for this!
pdsnichols 1 year ago
It's really hard to believe that Zappa WASN'T on drugs.
mmaier2112 1 year ago
@mmaier2112
No, that's what people who use drugs (as in alcohol) always say. People who are insecure (use alcohol or drugs) always accuse creative, free-spirited, uninhibited people of using drugs, because insecure people cannot imagine doing free thinking without being high. Consequently they get high and act stupid. Genius can be free without being stupid.
vibratingstring 1 year ago
@vibratingstring Take your patronizing bullshit and take a long walk off a short pier, will ya?
mmaier2112 1 year ago
@mmaier2112
LOL and you like Zappa? What a hypocrite!
vibratingstring 1 year ago
@vibratingstring Okay, for those of us that take the short bus: explain exactly how I'm being a hypocrite.
mmaier2112 1 year ago
@mmaier2112
Quite simple really. As you should know, Zappa didn't have much patience for drunks and druggies. He found their company unenjoyable. You find my comments patronizing--to whom? Well then, you profess to love Zappa and his work, yet you would insult one who simply reminds you of Zappa's own thoughts on drug-induced "creativity?" You are self-contradictory.
Youtube is full of fools who hide behind insults. Might it be that you are one of them? You show no creative work on youtube.
vibratingstring 1 year ago
@vibratingstring If I enjoy some of Zappa's works doesn't mean I am by any means a "Zappa Zombie", agreeing with every aspect of the man's thoughts.
I made a JOKE about Zappa's weirdness. I would agree that neither drugs or alcohol are "mind-expanding". But the dude was strange to say the very least.
And to say "I show no creative work on YT" is myopic. You have zero idea of my creative output or lack thereof. Therefore, you sound like a pretentious asshole indeed.
mmaier2112 1 year ago
@mmaier2112
Joke or no joke, you just don't "get it."
Pretentious? Wow. That's interesting. Because you are the pretender. You dont' show any creative work on youtube. Whether you show any anywhere else I cannot know. And as you don't say where I would find your works, and I doubt you would even want to disclose them, I can see only pretense.
You are the pretender. You pretend offence, yet you certainly don't show even the slightest bit of decorum.
vibratingstring 1 year ago
@vibratingstring Fuck your decorum.
So you're one of those idiots that thinks you cannot criticize if you have not produced music for public consumption. Of course, by that logic, I'd also be completely unqualified to LIKE any of Mr. Zappa's works. Because I have no basis for comparison either way.
That's a seriously moronic idea to say the very least.
And so now, I'm pretentious AND hypocritical, even though you have completely failed to demonstrate how I'm either.
Well played, sir. Truly.
mmaier2112 1 year ago
@mmaier2112
See, there you go again, shouting obscenities to the world.
Sure, you can criticize all you want. But we all know it is just a lot of hot air. All your cursing and attempts at intimidation are a symptom of a sickness. Cowardice. You are scared and you hide behind your anonymity.
vibratingstring 1 year ago
@vibratingstring Hey, if you had two brain cells to rub together, you'd see my nom de plume is far more indicative of my true ID than yours. So there's another idiotic statement on your part. (And a massively HYPOCRITICAL one at that.)
So you're outright admitting that you cannot back your idiotic assertions of hypocrisy or pretentiousness? And adding stupid assertions now too.
Ha. Again... well played.
mmaier2112 1 year ago
@mmaier2112
Well, well. As if "M. Maier" is truly an identity. There are probably at least a couple dozen of your initials and last names out there. Of course, I don't use my name on youtube, but I am identifiable. You on the other hand, are an abbreviation.
I already "backed up" my "assertions" but you do not understand them. It is somewhat like talking to a wall.
vibratingstring 1 year ago
@vibratingstring Since you can't follow the bouncing ball: Liking Zappa doesn't mean I can't make a joke about drugs. My doing so does not make me a hypocrite of any sort.
No, you're simply a liar. But I fully expected that.
mmaier2112 1 year ago
@mmaier2112
Of course you can joke. But so can I point out that it really isn't funny.
Liar? I haven't lied about anything.
I feel you have a rather poor command of the language.
vibratingstring 1 year ago
@vibratingstring Of course. You FEEL instead of thinking. That's beyond obvious at this point. I've demonstrated your incompetence plenty here.
And, yes, you ARE a liar. You have made assertions that you cannot back and will not retract.
Oh wait, I suppose you COULD be either a liar OR a moron. I'll leave it to you to figure out which.
You cannot back your idiotic assertions because you're an emoting tool.
Zappa himself would probably agree.
mmaier2112 1 year ago
madness,,,
nirvgardengod 1 year ago
sound like revolution 9
howardrhughes 1 year ago
A goddamn Genious
DaRandom90 1 year ago
Suzy?
Yes?
Suzy Creamcheese?
help4343 1 year ago
this is really amazing........ Anyone know what comments Zappa may have made about this footage later in his life?
jugbandblues3 1 year ago
I'm a drummer, classically trained. I became a Zappa-phile back in the 70's when I heard Peaches En Regalia for the first time.
Thisis the first time I've seen this footage.
I thank JAH this has been preserved and is available for viewing!
A true "American Composer" who "Refuses to die!"
zombiewoof27 1 year ago
@zombiewoof27 Peaches En Regalia is great!
Beatnikzombie 1 year ago