And can anyone tell me what credible UFO information he managed to get out of those many years he was tapping into their computers. And if what he got out of it was worth 60years! And dont tell me he got info on free energy info because that info has been out for years.
there is government inside us government and they not going to give you free energy as long as they hold a vador death grip on oil = money = power public people = slaves work hard and pay tax to the slave owners
If Gary McKinnon gets sent to the states, I think Europe will almost certainly meltdown. Infact - We know it will.
From a principle perspective, how can the Germans poision our people with Mercury (Aspergers/Autism) and the West does almost nothing, but then go on to throw the book at Gary. - It clearly doesn´t wash.
It´s countdown zum total kreig, Deutscher Kinderschander. ☠
It is sad what happened to this guy but also an eye opener that the so called Gov are not after the well being of any human other than 'their own' .So many ppl miss the point this guy came saw plans for free energy on em Pc such would help humans and the earth live better and yet ppl only focus on 'oh he hacked NaSa' My point if we humans cant support this guyand generally benefit from his findings , then we dont have a chance in this life time than paying taxes while we slowly die.
ALSO HE HAS DONE THE US A FAVOUR BY DEMONSTRAITING HOW POOR THE CYBER PROTECTION IS.
THE US SHOULD THANK HIM FOR A VERY CHEAP LESSON.
I belive that the former administration delibrately neglected homeland security with the hope that eventually they would be attacked to help politically justify war for oil and the P.N.A.C
Im sorry to say, but since it is illegal what NASA, and the secret government is doing, they have no grounds to say what he did was illegal. They are holding information from the people and the president of the United States. This would be like a drug dealer calling the cops to say that someone stole my crack pipe.
It would be like that- maybe- if the drug dealer was a high court judge, or a political policy maker. The point being people who make laws always get away with it- JUST LOOK @ WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE SCANDAL OVER MPs EXPENSES!
Mean while single parents struggling 2 survive on piss poor benefits, have been sent 2 jail 4 simply being unable 2 pay council tax bills, that housing benefit doesn't fully cover. While MPs are above the law because they "forgot" they had claimed on their 2nd home twice
what he found were references to "non-terrarestrial officers" if memory serves which he took to mean off planet humans; he then exited sharpish b/c he realised he'd been clocked
The guy was simply misled by X-file- and Disclosure-Project-SF-movies to intrude into govt computers, but he did NOT find anything. Near all Eurpean courts verified this question. McKinnon should die in the electric chair according to 18 U.S.C. 794, since he put human lives in danger, when he wanton disabled USAF emergency rescue centers. E.g. Florida and 8 other states still offer the chair. A 70 years sentence would be too mild.
Namaste0909, I hate to tell, but before you spread such nonsensial claims, I'd go to your lawyer and tell him to order the court papers. He found absolutely nothing. Remember, the guy is intelligent (but dangerous and misguided) He recognized very quickly how to get the hero-bonus from UFO/conspiracy enthusiasts. And people are too stupid to recognize, criminals tend to lie. while judges know their clientship. Since McKinnon knew he'd end up on the chair, he turned to pleade on autism.
This information should not be classified to begin with! That's the whole point behind the hack. Freedom of information.
Unless you're too scared to know what's going on in the world, and you think that the government should control what you know and don't know? If you want to be controlled, that's your business, but don't come around trying to preach to people that want to know the truth. You'll just find an uphill battle, and a whole lot of ridicule.
mhaneline, you jump on quick conclusions about things I've never claimed. Every (democratic) constitution says, govts can keep secrets, whenever national security is affected. Imagine, you pressed President Obama so much, he disclosed all launch code sequences for US nuclear missiles - so everybody could destroy a region of his choice on this planet. Is that the final consequence of your (nonexistent) claim of a 'right to know', you wanted to tell us about?
I don't care what you claim or don't claim. I am personally declaring that information should never be kept from the people. Period.
By the way, the "launch codes" example you gave is completely irrelevant, as that is proprietary detail-level data relating to a particular system. I would expect to be told that we are prepared to use the nuclear missiles. The launch codes are completely out of the scope of this discussion.
If you feel that you can't handle the truth, I feel for you.
mhaneline, I do not claim anything. I simply help people out of the labyrinth, into our UFO/conspiracytainment industry have (misguided them. As you distinguish between relevant, important and other information FOIA does it too. And all topics of (inter)national security are exempted. It's simply the law. Not my claim and not my opinon.
Since you have not even an idea who I am, your sarkasm regarding, what sort of truth I could handle is not relevant - although you pay my salery.
Also, you might want to brush up on your American History, as the Constitution, in no way, shape or form, allows for information to be withheld from the public. I highly recommend you download a digital version and become familiar with it's contents. You might then understand what so many other Americans are coming to understand; we are being controlled, through money, toward nefarious ends that we have no say in.
Education, knowledge, and comprehension my friend.
mhaneline, before you start a unqualfied discussion about legal topics, I'd ask a lawyer of your choice about these things: A constitution is a most basic regulation work. It is detailed by numerous acts, laws, executive orders and further regulations. FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) belongs to such an act. You can't change that, no matter if you did handstands in front of the White House, or you continues to tell empty polemic phrases.
All grammar and spelling aside, your response is, once again, out of scope, as I specifically referenced the Constitution of the United States of America.
Furthermore, this union of States was never intended to be so governed by a federation and thus, all ratifications rendered null and void.
When (or rather, if) you ever do educate yourself on our Constitution, you will discover that within said document exists the preamble. In said section, the federal government is granted only....
mhaneline, the Amarican legal system is does not differ from that as used in any other (more or less) democratic country. A constitution, that can not be adapted to the needs of a society would be dead and useless law. Whenever a law violates constitution, then the cupreme court corrects that problem. [sic]
_authorities directly following the preamble. Any such ratification which grants the federal government more authority is in direct violation of the preamble of the Constitution. States rights supersede federal rights except where directly stated in subsequent amendments which do not violate the preamble.
I suggest when (or rather, if) you educate yourself, you think long and hard in the ideology which you support, for it is that very ideology which has made you, me, and every American a slave.
Correct is, humanity left the way of acting in a moralic and ethic way. Hence vast amounts of laws grew out of the legislation machinary (of every country). This has nothing to do with slavery. It's simply the indication of the descent of the western high culture. (Yes, history repeats itself. Civilisation cycles happend to all high cultures; form Incas up to ancient Romans)
mhaneline, I addressed your objections as far as I've felt it contributed to our discussion - w.o. the douche. However, we can keep ist simple: Forget your illusions about your very own interpretation of US constitution. Since we have a system of a panem et circences politics, you should never forget for a second, your govt governs you - and not vice versa. That's a hard fact. If you wanted to change this, I'd suggest, you went into politics, but didn't behave like Denis Kucinich.
mhaneline, it was a pleasure to discuss with you. Particularly your douche xxx argument was so convincing. Can it be, you feared a mutilation of your belief-system?
the US are scared shitless about what he actually saw. period. UK law or fuck off. any government who uses windows on their top machines deserves anything they get
I prefer to determine what I know and don't know. Moreover, I want to know what's going on. The governments of the world have no right to keep their citizens in the dark. To think otherwise is to think as an elitist, and I'll be damned if I think anyone in government is better than me, or you, or the rest of us. The only reason they control information is to control US. You know why? An informed public can hold it's leaders accountable!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've just written a full length article for UFO-Digest the online magazine. You can find it there or go to the downloads are of Exopolitics UK --> Paper and Conferences --> Hacking at Truth PDF.
This sucks- they are going to try and get him indicted before the end of the Bush admin knowing full well that once he's sentenced, Obama won't pardon him. I think if the trial happens after Obama is sworn in, he's got a slightly better chance of avoiding jail.
This is a recent verdict? When did the British courts come down with this? Last week? I am familiar with his case, but he did this in 2000! It took this long, and with disclosure happening? WTF? So much for Edgar Mitchell saying people aren't scapegoated anymore.
Yup - "non-terrestrial officers" and also "fleet to fleet transfers" - the latter he could *not* find in sea-going ship names so we guess this is some "other" fleet.
Hi, exopol, thanks for posting this. Very interesting what you mentioned, where can I find info on his findings specifically? Is there mention of "non-terrestrial officers" in any interviews online you could refer me/us to? Thanks. I've only found the one interview from the UK and a Project Camelot vid. Maybe he mentioned it in there as well but obviously I am forgetting.
HACK THE PLANET
topbluffa1 11 months ago
Perhaps he has seen the secret formula, without realizing and it's somewhere in his mind
999FRIENDS 1 year ago
The evil empire has indefinite detention for so called "terrorist".
Idtelos 1 year ago
And can anyone tell me what credible UFO information he managed to get out of those many years he was tapping into their computers. And if what he got out of it was worth 60years! And dont tell me he got info on free energy info because that info has been out for years.
PROVEITFOOL 1 year ago
there is government inside us government and they not going to give you free energy as long as they hold a vador death grip on oil = money = power public people = slaves work hard and pay tax to the slave owners
Serubis 2 years ago
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If Gary McKinnon gets sent to the states, I think Europe will almost certainly meltdown. Infact - We know it will.
From a principle perspective, how can the Germans poision our people with Mercury (Aspergers/Autism) and the West does almost nothing, but then go on to throw the book at Gary. - It clearly doesn´t wash.
It´s countdown zum total kreig, Deutscher Kinderschander. ☠
MMRLoonie7 2 years ago
The truth seems to be beyond fiction
altrn8tiv 2 years ago
It is sad what happened to this guy but also an eye opener that the so called Gov are not after the well being of any human other than 'their own' .So many ppl miss the point this guy came saw plans for free energy on em Pc such would help humans and the earth live better and yet ppl only focus on 'oh he hacked NaSa' My point if we humans cant support this guyand generally benefit from his findings , then we dont have a chance in this life time than paying taxes while we slowly die.
kamekazoop 2 years ago 2
ALSO HE HAS DONE THE US A FAVOUR BY DEMONSTRAITING HOW POOR THE CYBER PROTECTION IS.
THE US SHOULD THANK HIM FOR A VERY CHEAP LESSON.
I belive that the former administration delibrately neglected homeland security with the hope that eventually they would be attacked to help politically justify war for oil and the P.N.A.C
robjbray 2 years ago 2
It is not the biggest hack of all time!
all due respect to gary.
for him to have done this the US cyber defence, must have been delibrately left open to allow terrorists to attack them more easily.
further giving the US under the bush administration grounds for more war abroad.
robjbray 2 years ago
Im sorry to say, but since it is illegal what NASA, and the secret government is doing, they have no grounds to say what he did was illegal. They are holding information from the people and the president of the United States. This would be like a drug dealer calling the cops to say that someone stole my crack pipe.
11orNot 2 years ago 10
It would be like that- maybe- if the drug dealer was a high court judge, or a political policy maker. The point being people who make laws always get away with it- JUST LOOK @ WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE SCANDAL OVER MPs EXPENSES!
Mean while single parents struggling 2 survive on piss poor benefits, have been sent 2 jail 4 simply being unable 2 pay council tax bills, that housing benefit doesn't fully cover. While MPs are above the law because they "forgot" they had claimed on their 2nd home twice
UnknowablEnigma 2 years ago
what he found were references to "non-terrarestrial officers" if memory serves which he took to mean off planet humans; he then exited sharpish b/c he realised he'd been clocked
EmmaCharlotteStubbs 2 years ago
The guy was simply misled by X-file- and Disclosure-Project-SF-movies to intrude into govt computers, but he did NOT find anything. Near all Eurpean courts verified this question. McKinnon should die in the electric chair according to 18 U.S.C. 794, since he put human lives in danger, when he wanton disabled USAF emergency rescue centers. E.g. Florida and 8 other states still offer the chair. A 70 years sentence would be too mild.
/watch?v=6hvL0ZSixHQ
;-))
sacha4you 3 years ago
LOL!
ok mr. know it all!
xxGLhrMxx 2 years ago
He did find a few things acually.
Namaste0909 2 years ago
Namaste0909, I hate to tell, but before you spread such nonsensial claims, I'd go to your lawyer and tell him to order the court papers. He found absolutely nothing. Remember, the guy is intelligent (but dangerous and misguided) He recognized very quickly how to get the hero-bonus from UFO/conspiracy enthusiasts. And people are too stupid to recognize, criminals tend to lie. while judges know their clientship. Since McKinnon knew he'd end up on the chair, he turned to pleade on autism.
;-))
sacha4you 2 years ago
This information should not be classified to begin with! That's the whole point behind the hack. Freedom of information.
Unless you're too scared to know what's going on in the world, and you think that the government should control what you know and don't know? If you want to be controlled, that's your business, but don't come around trying to preach to people that want to know the truth. You'll just find an uphill battle, and a whole lot of ridicule.
mhaneline 2 years ago
mhaneline, you jump on quick conclusions about things I've never claimed. Every (democratic) constitution says, govts can keep secrets, whenever national security is affected. Imagine, you pressed President Obama so much, he disclosed all launch code sequences for US nuclear missiles - so everybody could destroy a region of his choice on this planet. Is that the final consequence of your (nonexistent) claim of a 'right to know', you wanted to tell us about?
;-))
sacha4you 2 years ago
I don't care what you claim or don't claim. I am personally declaring that information should never be kept from the people. Period.
By the way, the "launch codes" example you gave is completely irrelevant, as that is proprietary detail-level data relating to a particular system. I would expect to be told that we are prepared to use the nuclear missiles. The launch codes are completely out of the scope of this discussion.
If you feel that you can't handle the truth, I feel for you.
mhaneline 2 years ago
mhaneline, I do not claim anything. I simply help people out of the labyrinth, into our UFO/conspiracytainment industry have (misguided them. As you distinguish between relevant, important and other information FOIA does it too. And all topics of (inter)national security are exempted. It's simply the law. Not my claim and not my opinon.
Since you have not even an idea who I am, your sarkasm regarding, what sort of truth I could handle is not relevant - although you pay my salery.
;-))
sacha4you 2 years ago
Also, you might want to brush up on your American History, as the Constitution, in no way, shape or form, allows for information to be withheld from the public. I highly recommend you download a digital version and become familiar with it's contents. You might then understand what so many other Americans are coming to understand; we are being controlled, through money, toward nefarious ends that we have no say in.
Education, knowledge, and comprehension my friend.
mhaneline 2 years ago
mhaneline, before you start a unqualfied discussion about legal topics, I'd ask a lawyer of your choice about these things: A constitution is a most basic regulation work. It is detailed by numerous acts, laws, executive orders and further regulations. FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) belongs to such an act. You can't change that, no matter if you did handstands in front of the White House, or you continues to tell empty polemic phrases.
;-))
sacha4you 2 years ago
All grammar and spelling aside, your response is, once again, out of scope, as I specifically referenced the Constitution of the United States of America.
Furthermore, this union of States was never intended to be so governed by a federation and thus, all ratifications rendered null and void.
When (or rather, if) you ever do educate yourself on our Constitution, you will discover that within said document exists the preamble. In said section, the federal government is granted only....
mhaneline 2 years ago
mhaneline, the Amarican legal system is does not differ from that as used in any other (more or less) democratic country. A constitution, that can not be adapted to the needs of a society would be dead and useless law. Whenever a law violates constitution, then the cupreme court corrects that problem. [sic]
sacha4you 2 years ago
_authorities directly following the preamble. Any such ratification which grants the federal government more authority is in direct violation of the preamble of the Constitution. States rights supersede federal rights except where directly stated in subsequent amendments which do not violate the preamble.
I suggest when (or rather, if) you educate yourself, you think long and hard in the ideology which you support, for it is that very ideology which has made you, me, and every American a slave.
mhaneline 2 years ago
Correct is, humanity left the way of acting in a moralic and ethic way. Hence vast amounts of laws grew out of the legislation machinary (of every country). This has nothing to do with slavery. It's simply the indication of the descent of the western high culture. (Yes, history repeats itself. Civilisation cycles happend to all high cultures; form Incas up to ancient Romans)
;-))
sacha4you 2 years ago
mhaneline, forgot to mention: You wanted President Obama - you've got President Obama.
;-))
sacha4you 2 years ago
Way to address absolutely none of my facts.
Anyway, I voted Libertarian you douche.
mhaneline 2 years ago
mhaneline, I addressed your objections as far as I've felt it contributed to our discussion - w.o. the douche. However, we can keep ist simple: Forget your illusions about your very own interpretation of US constitution. Since we have a system of a panem et circences politics, you should never forget for a second, your govt governs you - and not vice versa. That's a hard fact. If you wanted to change this, I'd suggest, you went into politics, but didn't behave like Denis Kucinich.
;-))
sacha4you 2 years ago
I invite you to transcend your ignorance so you don't further subject me to it. k, thanks.
mhaneline 2 years ago
mhaneline, it was a pleasure to discuss with you. Particularly your douche xxx argument was so convincing. Can it be, you feared a mutilation of your belief-system?
;-))
sacha4you 2 years ago
They are hideing something and are in the wrong, i suggest we all HACK Them CUNTS. =]
DanielofDoria 3 years ago
I want to know what he found.
I bet the us gov threatened him and destroyed all his data though.
shanebieda 3 years ago
the US are scared shitless about what he actually saw. period. UK law or fuck off. any government who uses windows on their top machines deserves anything they get
beastinblack 3 years ago
haha
seriously
shanebieda 3 years ago
i hope the truth does come out in his trial hope the disclosure peolpe will be there as these cunts are holding back al tell ye
andrewquigley18 3 years ago
Its ok for the govt scumbags to violate our privacy but when we hack into theirs we go to jail.
sonofthedestroyer 3 years ago 9
well said. i'm fucking fed up with all our privacy rights being violated, yet this guy gets hard time. bull shit.
jasonguyperson 3 years ago
Well some of what the gov. does is for our security, but yea they can sometimes get a little over hand.
shanebieda 3 years ago
I prefer to determine what I know and don't know. Moreover, I want to know what's going on. The governments of the world have no right to keep their citizens in the dark. To think otherwise is to think as an elitist, and I'll be damned if I think anyone in government is better than me, or you, or the rest of us. The only reason they control information is to control US. You know why? An informed public can hold it's leaders accountable!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mhaneline 2 years ago
if this guy,gets jail,no ufo secrets will be coming out,at all..or is this man a plant??
innerspace428 3 years ago
- re: liketanyanot
I've just written a full length article for UFO-Digest the online magazine. You can find it there or go to the downloads are of Exopolitics UK --> Paper and Conferences --> Hacking at Truth PDF.
I mention what he found in the networks in that.
exopol 3 years ago
release Gary McKinnon !!!
AVIMOAS 3 years ago 4
This sucks- they are going to try and get him indicted before the end of the Bush admin knowing full well that once he's sentenced, Obama won't pardon him. I think if the trial happens after Obama is sworn in, he's got a slightly better chance of avoiding jail.
liketanyanot 3 years ago
This is a recent verdict? When did the British courts come down with this? Last week? I am familiar with his case, but he did this in 2000! It took this long, and with disclosure happening? WTF? So much for Edgar Mitchell saying people aren't scapegoated anymore.
liketanyanot 3 years ago 4
he found references to "interstellar" pilots. interesting stuff.
Mfluder1970 3 years ago
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Yup - "non-terrestrial officers" and also "fleet to fleet transfers" - the latter he could *not* find in sea-going ship names so we guess this is some "other" fleet.
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exopol 3 years ago
Hi, exopol, thanks for posting this. Very interesting what you mentioned, where can I find info on his findings specifically? Is there mention of "non-terrestrial officers" in any interviews online you could refer me/us to? Thanks. I've only found the one interview from the UK and a Project Camelot vid. Maybe he mentioned it in there as well but obviously I am forgetting.
liketanyanot 3 years ago
if seen a little interview with him you, can find it on this hgn53k channel
zxcts 3 years ago
@exopol
Would be nice to screen the 9/11 passengers on special qualities needed for colonization of planets -
Mrs Olson as a Ambassadeur there !
999FRIENDS 1 year ago