IT WOULD SAVE SO MUCH TROUBLE AND HEARTACHE FOR EVERYONE CONCERNED IF THE GOVERNMENTS TOOK NOTICE OF THESE TWO PEOPLE.BESIDES THEY ARE VERY OBVIOUSLY WELL EDUCATED AND KNOW WHAT THEY ARE ABOUT!!! FEED THE PEOPLE INSTEAD OF BRAIN WASHING THEM ...IT WILL COME BACK TO HAUNT YOU ONE DAY...
@8ovari1 You know.....nobody is interested in claiming the separated parts of the "real" Macedonia....i am talking about the Macedonia that Alexander was the KING, not where Gruevski is wagging his tail !! Would'nt it be a lot better for ALL if the pseudomacedonians called themselves wit a name that describes them better, and call the land trhey live on with another name? I mean,it is PART of the OLD Macedonia and that is not about to change any time soon....These morons would Cont/...
@8ovari1 Cont/....have to declare war on Greece and Bulgaria and i hope they know that they have no hope...their allies the Turks are too busy keeping an eye on Israel whom they have been upsetting lately!!!
The volume of the surviving public and private inscriptions indicate that there was no other written language in ancient Macedonia but Greek, and recent epigraphic discoveries suggest that ancient Macedonian was a variety of the Northwestern Greek dialects. - wikipedia
before alexander the great was Macedonian not greeks, his mother was Epirus, thats mean albania princess and his father was maybe greek or macedonian. So i think he was half albanian and half Greek or Macedonian.
By the way, slavs people are trying to steal greek's history and albania to!! they are all come from Russia!! they are just dumbass ass hell, lol :P
@MergimMafia Olympias, the mother of Alexander was the daughter of Neoptolemus 1st,
King of the Molossians (A GREEK TRIBE) in Epirus....so if Olympias is Albanian, i am ZULU!! Honestly, i don,t know why i bother with an uneducable MORON like you!!
EVEN THE POLITICIANS AND ACADEMICS FROM VARDARSKA BANOVINA TELLS THE TRUTH...BUT ...MONKEYDONIANS DIDNT BELIEVE THEIR OWN SLAVIC BLOOD AND INSIST TO MADNESS.
INSIST THAT THEY ARE GREEKS....CAUSE...
MACEDONIA IS GREEK TERRITORY SINCE THE BEGGINING OF WRITTEN HISTORY.
@BERZITI Using someones nationality to insult a person, in this instance "arab/turko" is a sign of weakness and a lack of knowledge of what to say.IN OTHER WORDS IT PROVES HOW STUPID YOU REALLY ARE!!! Besides, it is a form of racism of the worse kind!!! MACEDONIAN DICK.....YOU CANNOT HAVE ONE OF THOSE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE greek TO DO SO. "Fake GREEK"....Now THERE is an admission and a half of Greek existence, I wonder, if the fake Greeks as YOU call them DID NOT look like "dirty Cont/
@helios180746 - I dont insult nobody , thats a fact ! until 1912 - 13 , in today north of Greece ( Aegean part of Macedonia ) , only 10 % of the population was greek ! majority in Thesaloniki are the Jews ( 50 % ) Turks , slavic Macedonians , than greeks , and more than 70 % of the total population was slavic Macedonian ! after 1928 ( Loussane Trety ) , Greece brought more than 1, 000 000 settlers , turkish ortodox in Aegean Macedonia , 15 yeras latter all Jews are deported - Cot/
@BERZITI MORON!!!!!!!! WHO GAVE YOU THOSE PERCENTAGES,YOUR PSEUDOMACEDONIAN GRANDFATHER OR DID YOU JUST INVENT THEM FOR SOMETHING TO SAY TO DENIGRATE THE GREEKS....YOU HAVE ARRIVED AT 130% ACCORDING TO YOUR CALCULATIONS, PLUS 1,000,000 SETTLERS WHO WERE NOT TURKISH ORTHODOX BUT PONTIAN GREEKS WHO ARE GREEK ORTHODOX.YOU REALLY ARE A PATHETIC LIAR WHO WOULD LIE TO SERVE YOUR PURPOSES. BUT IT WILL NEVER WORK...AND BY THE WAY.....THE INSIGNIA YOU HAVE ON YOUR CHANNEL WITH THE CON/...
@helios180746 - your pseudo greek grandmother tel that to my grandfather ( when he visit her ) , ha,ha,ha ! more than half of that 1 000 000 MAGJIRI from Turkey dont even spoak GR language when they arrived in GR part of Macedonia after 1928 ! that insignia , is tribal flag of the tribe Miyaks where I am from ! you are now using latin letters , so what ? are you Latin ? dont talk bullshit ! all ortodox churches in Republic of Macedonia build after 7 century , are build by us !
@BERZITI Goodness!!!! The uneducated MORON learned the "Greek" word "pseudo". You are feeding the world a lot of bullshit thinking that they are walking around with their eyes shut....but they are laughing at you. I am using Latin letters because i am writing in English, in case you haven,t noticed.....MORON......but i still want you to deny that that insignia READS " IHSOUS HRISTOS NIKA", in GREEK LETTERS,which means JESUS CHRIST IS VICTOR!!! The world is waiting!!
@helios180746 - I dont feed the world with bullshit , I can barrely produce enough BULLSHIT to feed your big mouth ! that insignia is from the Byzantine times you MORON , so what ??? greek alfabet was used allmost by all people in the Balkan before the Cirilic one was invented !
@BERZITI Cheap shot...as usual......my grandmother was born NOWHERE NEAR mainland GREECE, and your grandfather could not have visited her because he was a poofter and only interested in men!!!!!
@helios180746 - my grandfather was healty MACEDONIAN man interested ONLY in woman , ha,ha,ha , and like all world now , HOMOSEXUALITY was invented in Greece !
@BERZITI CONT/....CHRISTIAN CROSS.....HOW COME YOU DON'T USE ONE WITH PSEUDOMACEDONIAN LETTERS, BUT INSTEAD YOU ARE USING ONE WITH "VERY GREEK" LETTERS WHICH SAY iSOUS.HRISTOS NIKA....MEANING IN "VERY GREEK" JESUS CHRIST IS VICTOR!! YOUR MOB HAVE EVEN STOLEN THE GREEK ORTHODOX ICONS AND CHANGED THE SAINTS NAMES IN THE PSEUDOMACEDONIAN (SERBO/CROATIAN) LANGUAGE, REACHING THE LEVEL OF A SNAKE....AND YOU CAN'T GET ANY LOWER THAN THAT!!
@BERZITI DON'T USE THE TERM TURKISH ORTHODOX AGAIN, IF YOU VALUE YOUR PSEUDOMACEDONIAN WORTHLESS LIFE;JUST IN CASE THE TURKS FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE!!!!! HASTA LA VISTA BABY!!!
@helios180746 - uuuuuh , I am really afraid now , ha,ha,ha ! you dont like that term ??? I dont like when you greeks use terms like Slavo-bulgars,pseudomacedonian ! everybody gets what he deserve ! HASTA LA VISTA BABY , ha,ha,ha !
@BERZITI I do not give a rat's ass about the term, i only fear for your skin when you call Turks Orthodox...And by the way.......learn what ORTHODOX means first before you use the word...You are making a bloody fool of yourself as always!!
@helios180746 -part 2 - you call me a rasist ??? rasisam is state politic in your country ! Greece is only EU member who NEVER ratifyed Helsinky Convetion about minorityes rights ! how many Turks live in East Trakya ? how many slavic Macedonians live in GR part of Macedonia ? Albanians - Arvanites, Wlachs , Gypsies ? nobody have rights ! no schools, Media , not even a right to care his own real family names ( they must sound greek ) example - Trajanovski = Trajanidis ! Cont/
@BERZITI WHO IS TALKING FOR MINORITIES AND HUMAN RIGHTS?? In Fyrom there do however continue to be problems with human rights. According to human rights organisations, in 2003 there were suspected extrajudicial executions, threats and intimidation against human rights activists and opposition journalists and allegations of torture by the police.
@gampcptn - I dont now how is in Fyrom , but I do now that in Republic of Macedonia all minorityes are RECOGNIZED by the Macedonian Constitution and they have fully rights ! schools , Media ( Tv ,Radio,newspapers ,Theaters ...) , even political partyes ! Wlach are only recognized in Macedonia and only hier they have schools in wlach/aromanian language ! minorityes in GR are not even recognized , GR denyed existing of other people in GR !
@BERZITI The country (FYROM) has problems with the human rights of its ethnic minorities. Although Albanians have recently been allowed to study in the Albanian language, before graduating from university they are required to pass a test of their comprehension and use of the Macedonian language.
@gampcptn - dont talk bullshit ! we have 2 ( TWO ) Univercitries in albanian language in Republic of Macedonia ! serb schools, wlachs, Roma , turks , and in your country one big NOTHING ! shame on you !
@BERZITI Shame on you and on your fake country that you always are lying and cheating . COPY - PASTE wikipedia Fyrom Human rights .Everything I posted you can read exactly there. Greece has no minorities Vlachs are Greeks and the Greek mosleems in Thrakia are free to learn whatever they want. Give me a document international not from FYROM propaganda to support your blame regarding Greece . BUT WIKIPEDIA SAYS FOR FYROM exactly what I commented.
@gampcptn - Wlachs are " greeks " !!!??? I am lying !!!??? Wlachs are Wlachs , with own wlach / aromani language , not greeks ! Arvanites ??? slavic Macedonians ?? those so call " muslims " in Trakya are 90 % ethnic Turks , with turkish language you stupid moron ! and they dont have schools in own language , they are recognized as a religious minority , not as ethnic Turks !
@BERZITI Do you also learn ancient Macedonian in your schools ??? Learn ancient Macedonian first and then come to talk to us about you beeing "Macedonian" .
@helios180746 Have you learned what ORTODOX means yet? Of course not....and that is because you are a BOUTSOKEPHALOS, which in Greek means "DICKHEAD"!!! Pretty similar to Voukephalos (Alexandros horse) which in "GREEK" means BULLSHEAD.....What does it mean in your Serbo/Croatian dialect or your pseudomacedonian language? Who is the GAIDAROS now!!!
@BERZITI IDIOT......Ido not know why i bother with you, but i am not going to allow you to tell people that the Greek language of today is a mixture of other languages....Koene, in Greek means COMMON...do you understand that so far, I will tell you in Arabic as well if you like.....SO....when the Greeks made changes from the Ancient Greek to the Nea Elliniki, (NEO HELLENIC to you) to facilitate speech and writing they called the new VERSION of Hellenic KOENE meaning COMMON. Cont/....
@BERZITI Cont/.....Everything remained the same only it was SIMPLIFIED!!! Sure Greeks use words from other languages unofficially in their everyday speech, from Turkish to Arabic,to Italian, French and God knows what simply to facilitate speech. E.g. TRENO is SIDIRODROMOS in Greek...so i prefer to use TRENO because it is easierSo STOP trying to discredit Greeks by inventing things because you are only making a bloody bigger fool of yourself than you already are!!! Cont/....
@BERZITI Cont/.....How many Greek words are OFFICIALLY in your Serbo/Croatian language.....and DO NOT SAY NONE BECAUSE I KNOW DIFFERENTLY....You are Not dealing with an uneducated person.....I warn you!!!!
@helios180746 - If you want to now how many greek words are in the serbian and croatian , you are in the wrong place with that quesstion ! ask some Serbs or Croats , not me , Iam MACEDONIAN !
@BERZITI man lets talk together.im not racist neither a nationalist but slavs came to balcans in the 6th century after christ.so you cant be descendant of ancient macedonia.MACEDONIA which you country is called is a greek word do you know that?MAKEDNOS in ancient greek means tall man.you can call you country as you want i have no problem with that but dont say that you have any connection with ancient macedonia.i can accept that as a geographical fact not as a hostorical.history is history
@lionheart99917 - waht do you think , when the slavic tribes came hier in 5 century , they found empty country ? today modern Macedonians are mixed with the old Macedonians , Iliryans and Thracians ! Greeks are also mixed ( with Arvanites, Wlachs and not to forget , with slavic people too ) ! slavic tribes Milingoi,Ezeritaes ( Peloponessus ) , Rinhines and Sagudates and Vajunites ( Epirus) are hellenized ! or you believe that today greeks are pure old Hellenes ?
@BERZITI you came here 700 years after alexandros the great..there is no 100 per cent pure nation in our days but at least 11 millions greeks have the same religion,the same language and a common national conscience.you are mixed by bulgarians,albanians.gypsies,orthodox,muslims ect.filippos b,father of alexander the great made the union of greece.secodly i repeat you tha the word macedonia is greek.MAKEDNOS in ancient greek means tall man.i dont understand why its a shame to be a slav..
@lionheart99917 - I wil repeat one more time , we are mix between slavic tribes , old Macedonians, Iliryans and Thracians , that is today modern Macedonian nation ! thats our name , identity , after more than 1500 years hier , we have fully right to call us Macedonians !
@lionheart99917 - I dont have arguments !!!??? I allready told you who we are , our ethno-genezis ! what more do you want ??? we live in Macedonia more than 1500 years and ( acording to you Greeks ) we dont have right to call ourselfs with that name , and the pontian magjir settlers from Turkey who colonised Macedonia are now bigger Macedonians than we are and they have more right on the Macedonian name ( after only 80 years that they live there ???) .
@BERZITI i repeat i can accept as greek to call your country macedonia but as a geographical fact not as a historical..why you cant be satisfied with that?
@lionheart99917 - 11 mill. greeks with " same " language ? you now whay is that ? becousse your country dont recognize minorityes ! Turks in Trakiya, slavic Macedonians , Wlachs, Arvanites !!! that are 4 different languages , but those people dont have right to learn at school in his mother tongue no media , nothing ! even the names and family names must sound greek ( Trajanovski = Trajanidis ) ! in the country where the democracy was born !
@BERZITI they are greeks citizents,they are going to greek schools,they serve in greek army..im talking about the turkish minoritye who are about 80 thousand people..80 thousand in 11 million people..there is no slavic minority in greece since 1945..stop your stupid propaganda..
@lionheart99917 - 1 - ofcourse they are GR cityzens , but that doesnt mean they are greek by blood and genes ! they go in GR schools .... ! thats my point ! they are not recognized , they dont enjoyed minorityes rights , thats way they must to follow education only in GR language , and that means slow ASIMILATION ! and thats the fynal goal of the GR state politic ! no slavic minoritye in GR after 1945 ? propaganda ??? i tought you are diferent , less shovinist than mainstream - 2
@lionheart99917 - 1 - ofcourse they are GR cityzens , but that doesnt mean they are greek by blood and genes ! they go in GR schools .... ! thats my point ! they are not recognized , they dont enjoyed minorityes rights , thats way they must to follow education only in GR language , and that means slow ASIMILATION ! and thats the fynal goal of the GR state politic ! no slavic minoritye in GR after 1945 ? propaganda ??? i tought you are diferent , less shovinist than mainstream - 2
@lionheart99917 - 1 - ofcourse they are GR cityzens , but that doesnt mean they are greek by blood and genes ! they go in GR schools .... ! thats my point ! they are not recognized , they dont enjoyed minorityes rights , thats way they must to follow education only in GR language , and that means slow ASIMILATION ! and thats the fynal goal of the GR state politic ! no slavic minoritye in GR after 1945 ? propaganda ??? i tought you are diferent , less shovinist than mainstream - 2
@lionheart99917 - 2 - grrek , but you are also wulf under the sheep skin ! never heard of RAINBOW party in Florina ? Pavlos Vaskoupoulos ( real name Pavle Filipov ) ? search on You Tube , you can find lott of videos , ( Meliti , Ovcharani ) about slavic Macedonians in GR , and than we can talk again ! acording to the Greek Helsinki Comitee , more than 30 % of the GR population is from NON - GR origin !
@BERZITI until the dedecate of 90's you were just a part of jugoslavia..tito called you VARDASKA.you werent the first tribe who came in macedonia.before you was rome,goths,celts and the byzantines..its impossible to have any dna connection with macedonia..i agree with you that there isnt a pure nation today but you are too mixed..more than the usual.serbs,bulgarians,muslims,gypsis.you cant compare your country with greece.you are a 15 year country be serious.
@lionheart99917 - we where federal Republic in the Yugoslavian Federation ! under the name SR . Makedonija ! ( Socialistic Republic of Macedonia ! not Vardarska , do some reaserch before you wright lies ! Celts,Huns,Avars,Gots, they all came , and they all left , nomadic tribes , but we are stil hier ! in Macedonia lives Albanians,Gypsies,Turks,Wlachs , but we mixed ( intermarriages) only with ortodox christians, we dont mix with everyone like you do !
@lionheart99917 - Until the 1991 when Republic of Macedonia became independent country , GR part of Macedonia was GR province under the oficial name NORTH GREECE and THRACIE ! Stelios Papatemelis was head of the Ministery for North Greece and Trakya in Thessaloniki !!! the name Makedonia was never used there in GR until 1991 ! name of the aerport in Tessaloniki also !
@BERZITI how deare you to tell such a lies?greeks call this land macedonia before 1830 when greece were indipendent..tell the truth,be a man.you have no honor,you have no arguments..lieslieslieslieslieslies..why?im wondering who tell you things like that...vardaska's schools maybe...its the usual vardaska's propaganda...i suggest you to read too much...to be informed and know the real truth..dont let your country's propaganda to destroy you..thats a friendly advice..think about it.byebye
@BERZITI you have to be proud for your descent and not to provide another natio's history as yours.you can call your country as you want but ancient macedonias were as greeks as spartans,athinias,corinthians and all the greek states
@lionheart99917 No offence but we in Slovakia also learn about Germanic and Celtic tribes that lived here. They arent Slavic but we also accept them as part of our history. Really I dont get it. There is no doubt that these ancient states were Greek but todays Macedonians arent pure Slavs either. Just because they dont speak Macedonian Greek doesnt change their genom. The greek Macedonians in the middle ages just accepted the Slavic brotherhood and became Slavic that way.
@SlovanskastranaRR slavs came in balcans after rome,celts,goths,huns,byzantnes so how can be possible to connect them with ancient macedonia...we are taking about a distance of 800 years....guys history is history come on
@lionheart99917 But I am not talking about ancient Macedonians who were hellenic by origin and language. I am talking about modern macedonians who are of mixed Slavic and hellenic origin and Slavic by language. Is a Greek American less Greek just because he speaks english? Do you know how many Greeks have Slavic blood? How many Slavs were hellenized? Well that happened in Macedonia. For example Solun(Thessaloniki) was for a few centuries a major Slavic city. It was slavicized.
@helios180746 - are you a lowyer of LIONHEART99917 !!!??? or asistent ??? that is a discusion between me and him , dont put your nous in another people bussines ! and you now way is not Trajanidis - Trajanovski ? becousse slavic Macedonians are not greeks !
@helios180746 - part 3 - old Greece is place where the democracy was born , but this one is the place where democracy died and is buried long time ago !
we are not greeks , bulgars or serbs , we are modern Macedonians , mix between slavic tribes who came in 5 - 6 century and mixed with the ancient Macedonians , Trachians and Iliryans , with dominant slavic ethnos and slavic Macedonian language ! and after more than 15 century existing on this soil , NOBODY can change our name .
@helios180746 - do you even now how many slavic tribes contributed in the creating of the modern greek nation ? Milingi and Ezerani ( Ezeritae) in the Peloponesus Peninsula , Rinhines and Sagudates in the Thesaloniki and Halkidiky area , and Vajunites in Epirus area ! they are helennized and today are greeks like you ! ask yourself how many slavic blood and genes you have ??? and how about the Arvanites and Wlachs ??? same story !
@BERZITI Please brother dont explain it to that ignorant. He only sees what he wants to see because according to him the World is only black and white.
@BERZITI Cont/.... arab/turkos and were lighter in colour, they would be.....let me guess......MACEDONIANS, and therefore Greeks!!!!YOU REALLY ARE PATHETIC!!!!
@POTIS1 - dont waste your time on You Tube moron , go and find job and this time , PAY YOUR TAXES , ha,ha,ha , otherwise , go and suck some german dick , maybe you wil get some money , arab/greko monkey !
@BERZITI ISOUS HRISTOS NIKA.......MEANS JESUS CHRIST IS VICTOR!!!! GO ON, IDARE YOU TO DENY IT!!! AND THE LANGUAGE YOU SPEAK IS SERBO/CROATION.....DENY THAT ALSO!!!!!! I AM WAITING AND SO ARE THOUSANDS OF OTHERS WHO KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT......EITHER THAT, OR GIVE IT UP AND GO AWAY!!!!
@helios180746 - what is wrong with you fucking moron ??? I allready told you that that tekst on the Miyaks tribal flag is from the Byzantine times , and in those times evrybody use that alphabet , and ISUS HRISTOS - NIKA is slogan in greeks that all ortodox christians use ! so what is your point ? that everybody who use that is " greek " !!!??? and my language is not serbo/ croatian , not greek , not bulgarian , is slavic MACEDONIAN !!!
YEAH...NEVER...EXCEPT THE LAST 5.000 YEARS, MACEDONIA NEVER WAS GREEK....
AND DONT FORGET....WIKI...
''Alexander III of Macedon (20/21 July 356 – 10/11 June 323 BC), commonly known as Alexander the Great (Greek: Ἀλέξανδρος ὁ Μέγας, Aléxandros o Mégasiii[›]), was a Greek king of Macedon, a state in northern ancient Greece''.
@POTIS1 - you now whay was never part of Macedonia greeks ??? becousse was never a greek state ! first one is founded in 1820 !!! created by the western powers, liberated from the turks with help of Russia , even the first grrek king was a german !
THE PEOPLE IN FYROM BELONG TO SLAVS AND ALSO FYROMIAN LANGUAGE BASED ON SLAVIC ALPHABET LIKE RUSSIAN ETC. SLAVS CAME IN EUROPE IN MIDDLE AGES AND BECAME CHRISTIANS. GREECE HAS ANCIENT CULTURE IN THE AREA OF MEDDITERANEAN SEA. FYROM IS NEWLY ESTABLISHED STATE. WHAT IS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN SCOPJA AND ANCIENT GREEK MACEDONIA?
@HybodusStudios It is a proven fact that the language spoken by the Fyromians today is SERBO/CROATIAN.....i personally worked for many years in the printing industry with professional interpreters/translators and they always denied there was such a language as a Macedonian language, and these were people who came from those parts of the world.
@helios180746 yeah last fall before 2012 a 27 year old named Ivon came from Macedonia and visited us. I understood allot what he said even though I'm Serbian. He gave one example he said Milk a little differently then in Serbian, So Macedonian language IS SERBIAN accent
@HybodusStudios I think 777panos is trying to say that a Greek person would not understand anything from a conversation held in the so called Macedonian, Serbo/Croatian, language whereas a Serb, or a Croat would understand some of it because it is made up of both languages.
@spr8hrdm3 Friend....they will not visit that site because the truth does not suit them and besides even if they do, they will not comment on it because the overwhelming majority of the signatories are NON GREEK and most eminent Professors etc. from UNIVERSITIES from ALL OVER the world, including Germany, Austria, the U.S just to mention a few. They will not comment on ANYTHING that exposes their lies.I have been trying to get one of them to deny that the language they speak is Cont/.
ok!! your name is fyromians or peones.Ancient peones you was when we was as we are now Macedonians,so peones,... in greek "peos" is the Dick.. and i think..that for you state-village the right name is peonia or peograd or peos direkt.!have a nice dreaming Peomians.
@TrueMakedonian You are fucking good in history and fucking geography.
OI, Dickhead I'm Macedonian and you are Turkish , just look at your skin you look like a monkey and look at some Macedonian we are fair complexion and you're olive(Monkey).You don't even know where Bulgaria is.Ataturk is greek origin, are you happy?
@helios180746 Oi Mr. Dickhead, Ataturk was born in Salonika and that makes you a Turk.You look like Turk and you probably speak same or similar language. On the north of greece they are MACEDONIANS and they speak MACEDONIAN.
Bulgars and Bulgarska Vardaska-Banovina ,u r not a nation but a Bulgarska race,u do not have a language but a Bulgarian dialect only.PSEVDOMAKEDONES GYFTOSKOPIANOI.
Macedonians speaks Greek,Alexander's the great spoken language,
FYROMIANS are speaking their dialect and not an official language ,so this dialect is bulgarian for 90%,and 10% mixed with other languages mostly serbian.So FYROM the country,Fyromians the people,BULGARIAN the language.
I have to tell that these men are right, but Greeks have to realize several things. First of all, the world knows this country as Macedonia and its inhabitants as Macedonians you cant do nothing about it... but educated people know they are Slavic. Secondly, openly calling Macedonians "Fyromians" is insulting so dont try to look stupid in front of foreigners( Greeks also have unpleasent "nicknames" especially in northern part of Europe). Thirdly, many greeks are of Slavic origin themselves.
@georgeturbo1983 Gayreeks? That would have to be a smelly gay person.....fags? Oh That is cigarettes!! So much for your Greek nickname argument......STUPID MORON!!!! NOW there is a word that describes you perfectly!!!!! And by the way....Gay means happy....without a care! In ENGLISH.....but then again you wouldn't know about that!!!
@SlovanskastranaRR You, Mr Slovak are talking through the wrong orifice!!!! So shut your anal passage and give your mouth a chance to speak!!!! And please learn English before you post again!!!
@helios180746 First of all, I speak english quite well I think. Second, your vulgarity only proves your dumbness. Third of all... Well I will tell it like this. The world doesnt give a fuck about you pityfull problems in the Balkans. If there isnt war involved your problems are just childish. This "Macedonian" problem, and you making it so "big" is so laughable that thanks to you and everybody alike, makes Greece looking like a country full of retards. Rather solve your economics.
@SlovanskastranaRR The Greek (EUROPEAN) economy is only a recent problem.The Macedonia issue is a long time affair created by people without an identity who are trying to prove that they are something they are not, in order to lay claim on Greek soil. You Mr Slovak, stay out of something that does not concern you, or else you will be proven to be a bigger FOOL than those pseudomacedonians already proved themselves to be.You are still talking from the wrong orifice as Cont/...
@helios180746 - Macedonia issue is created by the greek political elite ! who is claiming greek soil !!!??? we are talking about REPUBLIC of MACEDONIA , not about the greek part of Macedonia, or the bulgarian part of Macedonia !
@helios180746 - no such a place !!!??? yeah , right ! recognized by 138 states under that name ! is not existing only in your empty head , who cares what you are thinking !
@SlovanskastranaRR Cont/....suggested to you earlier,so please take the appropriate action to correct this AILMENT. Just because Greece has problems with the economy, it does not mean that the Greeks should allow a group of impostors to call themselves something that is purely Greek. You, China, a number of other countries and GOD himself can call them Macedonian but they will NEVER be Macedonians, because Macedonians are Greek as history proved it time and time again!!! Cont/
@SlovanskastranaRR The world, as you put it might not give a F...K (meaning sexual intercourse and guess who is the vulgar one here) about the Balkan problems, but Greece does. And i will tell you something else DUMBASS, Germany and co. are not handing out money to Greece to save it, they are doing it to save themselves....but i am not going to go into details for a Slovakian FOOL!!! Time will tell, hang about to see the fate of the EU.
@helios180746 HoHoHo :D What passion :D Yés it is clear that Germans dont care about you Greeks, but about their money. So does everybody who lent you money, including us Slovaks. You dont get it dont you? You think people are learning in schools that Alexander was Slavic or what? You should learn that people listen to regular historics, not pseudohistorics, but your hysteria about something that is so obvious only shows what a retard you are. Have a nice day. ..wiseguy.
Yeah met them few on the internet. Every nation has its "extremes". But they are partly right. Yes they are Slavs but the fact is most of them are really slavicized inhabitants of that area. Slavs are Nordic people with light features while today Macedonians resemble more Southern Europeans. So I think yes these guys have things in common with ancient Macedonians just like Greeks,but speak Slavic language.
@TrueMakedonian OI Mr. Dickhead. You stupid king renamed every thing in Macedonia with stupid greek names and I don't except that name because in Macedonian is FILIP. And for your sake learn one thing, Bulgaria is different to Macedonia like Turkey to greece.
Dont understand this argue between Greeks and Macedonians. Southern Macedonia is Greek and Northern is Slavic. Ancient Macedonians were Hellenic.... when we say Macedonia today we understand 2 things ...Macedonia a Slavic country of Slavic people in the northern part of ancient Macedonia that is a sovereign state...and Macedonia the southern part of ancient Macedonia today a province of Greece. People who dont see the difference have probably low IQ.
@SlovanskastranaRR yeah but the thing is that Slavic "macedonians" tell to everyone that they are descendants of Ancient Greek Macedonians, and say that they speak their language is the language of ancient Macedonia, and even though Greece is willing to settle for FYROM as a name for them in order for there to be no confusion, the slavs want to be called just Macedonian, and their higher cause with that will be to conquer Greek macedonia and unite it with their "macedonian" state.
@georgeturbo1983 I dont understand your upset about this. Everybody knows that todays Macedonia(the slavic republic) and ancient Macedonia are two different things. But the fact is that everybody calls them Macedonians, but everybody at the same time knows they are Slavic. Macedonians as we know them today are slavs and slavicized ancient macedonians. And to Alexander the Great he was also the part of the history of todays Macedonia so they can praise him, but he was hellenic.
@SlovanskastranaRR yes, we all understand that macedonians today are just slavs that settled there in the 6th century AD, and that they are not descendants of Alexander the Great, so we just want them to keep their name as FYROM, but the thing is that they think that are direct descendants of Alexander the Great, not slavs, and they want want to be called Macedonia, so they can annex Sallonika and Greek macedonia, watch this for info /watch?v=AhckJUVSifI .
@georgeturbo1983 And when we talk about Alexander the Great,well todays Republic of Macedonia lies in the Northern parts of ancient Macedonia so Alexander is also part of their history. And if you like or not,everybody calls them Macedonians and their country Macedonia but slavic.Both sides take it too much serious because when you stop listening to the crap of extremists and start listening to a stranger,like me you will know that people see the difference between ancient and todays macedonia.
@georgeturbo1983 I know exactly what is the core of your dispute and I dont have to see any video but you didnt understand what I was saying. Ancient Macedonia and todays Slavic republic of Macedonia are two different things. Ancient Macedonians were Hellenic origin, todays Macedonians from the Rebublic of Macedonia are of Slavic origin. Claims of those extremeists that they are pure ancient Macedonians ancestors of Alexander the Great are misleading. You just make too much noise for nothing.
@SlovanskastranaRR I know all this, I was listeniing to you before, but the fact is that even though we know it they just don't get it because of the propaganda, they think that they are direct descendants of Alexander the Great, and the fact of the matter is that if this whole naming issue goes their way they will want to take Greek macedonia, and that means war, just sarch unified macedonia and you will see, watch the documantary I am telling you to watch because you don't know the whole story
@georgeturbo1983 I say you taking these things too serious. For example we Slovaks had always quarrels with Magyars, because they still dream of a Greater Hungary. They claim we "stole their land" altough we were figting for our land against the Franks many centuries before the asiatic looking Magyars came to our lands and enslaved us. They are just claiming what was never their. So are these extremists from Macedonia. Most of Macedonians dont give a fuck about their ideas I think.
@georgeturbo1983 Yeah I heard about this, but dont take it too serious. The essence of todays macedonian culture is Slavic so is their language. If we take the todays Macedonians as a whole they are Slavic,but if we look at the genetics the things are different. You just react on extremists who are blinded.Today there are many idiots in Slavic nations who explain the origin whatever they can but to proove they are not Slavic.For example that Croats are Iranians, Poles are Sarmatians etc.
@SlovanskastranaRR I think you'd better check your own IQ if you cannot see what is happening here.I will tell you ONCE.Those you call Northern Macedonians (NO SUCH THING) are trying to prove to the world that they are the true Macedonians (WHO ARE GREEK) in order to attract enough support from the world so that they can claim Thessaloniki and the rest of Macedonia as theirs.Can you just see the Greeks and the Bulgarians (1/3 of Macedonia) rolling out the red carpet for Cont..
@SlovanskastranaRR ...these MORONS and applaud them as they come in?? I am affraid they are in for a great shock. And if anyone thinks that Turkey is an enemy of Greece ,better think again.....just look to FYROM!!!!
@TrueMakedonian Yes , Macedonia has debt of 26% of the GDP and greece about 600% of theGDP , so Macedonia has long way to go.Get of the grass, dickhead !!!!!!!!!
@TrueMakedonian greece is $500 fucking billions in red and you claim that Macedonia is the poorest in the world , you're dickhead with a title.Go to fucking Athens and observe the demonstrations and ask why is it so.
@TrueMakedonian Oi knucklehead ! no one can read that, look at you stupid politician all Mugs, they've no more money to throw like drunken sailors so shut up and sit and watch.
We are in NATO and soon in Europe and you are out of NATO and out of Europe and than you can call tour self what ever you want. Remember these names Alexander, Phillip, Macedonia and Aegean Macedonia not only Vardarska.
Macedonia is Greek everybody knows it and these Macedonians are not ancient peple they are slavic don't have any connection with Alexander. This fool form FYRO Macedonia are rally mad! They are slavic people; more than a half of them are serbs 'cause it was Serbian territory during last 2 centuries (Otoman ocupation) and there were serbs in these teritory, they even didn't exist in that period and they are mix of serbs and bulgarians. So FYROM go to hell you idiots! SERBIA SUPPROT GREECE!
μια πολύ μικρή διόρθωση στην μετάφραση παίδες, δεν λέει Σλαβική αλλά ΣΛΟΒΕΝΙΚΉ
Και παρεμπιπτόντως, όλοι οι Σλάβοι των βαλκανίων ανοίκουν σε αυτή την ομάδα και οι γλώσσες τους ανήκουν σε αυτή την ομάδα με μικρές διαφορές μεταξύ τους... εγώ ας πούμε που μεταξύ άλλων μιλάω και Βουλγαρικά, καταλάβω και Σλαβο-"μακεδόνσκι" και Σέρβικα και Κροατικά κτλ κτλ για να καταλάβετε, η αυθεντική ελληνοκυπριακή διάλεκτος έχει μεγαλύτερες διαφορές με την νεοελληνική από ότι τα σλαβομακεδονικά με τα Σερβικά!
This is a greek bulgaronoid PROPAGANDA
Viva la Makedonia
Devoj4E 8 hours ago
IT WOULD SAVE SO MUCH TROUBLE AND HEARTACHE FOR EVERYONE CONCERNED IF THE GOVERNMENTS TOOK NOTICE OF THESE TWO PEOPLE.BESIDES THEY ARE VERY OBVIOUSLY WELL EDUCATED AND KNOW WHAT THEY ARE ABOUT!!! FEED THE PEOPLE INSTEAD OF BRAIN WASHING THEM ...IT WILL COME BACK TO HAUNT YOU ONE DAY...
helios180746 12 hours ago
Macedonia is Bulgaria, Gruevski till lives with Titos Propaganda!
8ovari1 23 hours ago
@8ovari1 You know.....nobody is interested in claiming the separated parts of the "real" Macedonia....i am talking about the Macedonia that Alexander was the KING, not where Gruevski is wagging his tail !! Would'nt it be a lot better for ALL if the pseudomacedonians called themselves wit a name that describes them better, and call the land trhey live on with another name? I mean,it is PART of the OLD Macedonia and that is not about to change any time soon....These morons would Cont/...
helios180746 14 hours ago
@helios180746 - SHUT YOUR DIRTY MOUTH YUNAN ! REAL GREECE STARTS SOUTH OF OLYMP MOUNTAINS !
BERZITI 12 hours ago
@8ovari1 Cont/....have to declare war on Greece and Bulgaria and i hope they know that they have no hope...their allies the Turks are too busy keeping an eye on Israel whom they have been upsetting lately!!!
helios180746 14 hours ago
The volume of the surviving public and private inscriptions indicate that there was no other written language in ancient Macedonia but Greek, and recent epigraphic discoveries suggest that ancient Macedonian was a variety of the Northwestern Greek dialects. - wikipedia
rurounisld 2 days ago
RIP KIRO IF U HAD YOUR WAY WE WOULD'V BEEN RECOGNIZED BY THE WHOLE WORLD.
petrovski40 4 days ago
Greeks can never be Makedonians
At the ancient the greek state never exist !!
Soory 4 all greeks !! bild your Mythology(greek-history) by reel fakts of history not by dreams !!!!!
Viva la Makedonia 4 all Makedonians but never 4 fascist greeks!!!
Devoj4E 5 days ago
@Devoj4E Write in Serbo/Croatian (pseudomacedonian).....we might understand you better!!!
helios180746 14 hours ago
@helios180746 -Only in my native MACEDONIAN and english !
BERZITI 12 hours ago
before alexander the great was Macedonian not greeks, his mother was Epirus, thats mean albania princess and his father was maybe greek or macedonian. So i think he was half albanian and half Greek or Macedonian.
By the way, slavs people are trying to steal greek's history and albania to!! they are all come from Russia!! they are just dumbass ass hell, lol :P
MergimMafia 6 days ago
@MergimMafia Olympias, the mother of Alexander was the daughter of Neoptolemus 1st,
King of the Molossians (A GREEK TRIBE) in Epirus....so if Olympias is Albanian, i am ZULU!! Honestly, i don,t know why i bother with an uneducable MORON like you!!
helios180746 5 days ago
@helios180746 She wanted real fuck so she married a Macedonian to save her ass.
jimglig53 1 day ago
@jimglig53 AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF FYROMIAN (PSEUDOMACEDONIAN) INTELLIGENCE ON DISPLAY HERE, FOR THE WHOLE WORLD TO SEE!!
helios180746 1 day ago
@helios180746 Didn't you know that she was greek and Philip was Macedonian ? I knew you're dickhead+.
jimglig53 15 minutes ago
EVEN THE POLITICIANS AND ACADEMICS FROM VARDARSKA BANOVINA TELLS THE TRUTH...BUT ...MONKEYDONIANS DIDNT BELIEVE THEIR OWN SLAVIC BLOOD AND INSIST TO MADNESS.
INSIST THAT THEY ARE GREEKS....CAUSE...
MACEDONIA IS GREEK TERRITORY SINCE THE BEGGINING OF WRITTEN HISTORY.
POTIS1 1 week ago
@POTIS1 - suck my big MACEDONIAN DICK you dirty arab/turko fake greek !
BERZITI 5 days ago
@BERZITI Using someones nationality to insult a person, in this instance "arab/turko" is a sign of weakness and a lack of knowledge of what to say.IN OTHER WORDS IT PROVES HOW STUPID YOU REALLY ARE!!! Besides, it is a form of racism of the worse kind!!! MACEDONIAN DICK.....YOU CANNOT HAVE ONE OF THOSE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE greek TO DO SO. "Fake GREEK"....Now THERE is an admission and a half of Greek existence, I wonder, if the fake Greeks as YOU call them DID NOT look like "dirty Cont/
helios180746 4 days ago
@helios180746 - I dont insult nobody , thats a fact ! until 1912 - 13 , in today north of Greece ( Aegean part of Macedonia ) , only 10 % of the population was greek ! majority in Thesaloniki are the Jews ( 50 % ) Turks , slavic Macedonians , than greeks , and more than 70 % of the total population was slavic Macedonian ! after 1928 ( Loussane Trety ) , Greece brought more than 1, 000 000 settlers , turkish ortodox in Aegean Macedonia , 15 yeras latter all Jews are deported - Cot/
BERZITI 4 days ago
@BERZITI MORON!!!!!!!! WHO GAVE YOU THOSE PERCENTAGES,YOUR PSEUDOMACEDONIAN GRANDFATHER OR DID YOU JUST INVENT THEM FOR SOMETHING TO SAY TO DENIGRATE THE GREEKS....YOU HAVE ARRIVED AT 130% ACCORDING TO YOUR CALCULATIONS, PLUS 1,000,000 SETTLERS WHO WERE NOT TURKISH ORTHODOX BUT PONTIAN GREEKS WHO ARE GREEK ORTHODOX.YOU REALLY ARE A PATHETIC LIAR WHO WOULD LIE TO SERVE YOUR PURPOSES. BUT IT WILL NEVER WORK...AND BY THE WAY.....THE INSIGNIA YOU HAVE ON YOUR CHANNEL WITH THE CON/...
helios180746 1 day ago
@helios180746 - your pseudo greek grandmother tel that to my grandfather ( when he visit her ) , ha,ha,ha ! more than half of that 1 000 000 MAGJIRI from Turkey dont even spoak GR language when they arrived in GR part of Macedonia after 1928 ! that insignia , is tribal flag of the tribe Miyaks where I am from ! you are now using latin letters , so what ? are you Latin ? dont talk bullshit ! all ortodox churches in Republic of Macedonia build after 7 century , are build by us !
BERZITI 1 day ago
@BERZITI Goodness!!!! The uneducated MORON learned the "Greek" word "pseudo". You are feeding the world a lot of bullshit thinking that they are walking around with their eyes shut....but they are laughing at you. I am using Latin letters because i am writing in English, in case you haven,t noticed.....MORON......but i still want you to deny that that insignia READS " IHSOUS HRISTOS NIKA", in GREEK LETTERS,which means JESUS CHRIST IS VICTOR!!! The world is waiting!!
helios180746 1 day ago
@helios180746 - I dont feed the world with bullshit , I can barrely produce enough BULLSHIT to feed your big mouth ! that insignia is from the Byzantine times you MORON , so what ??? greek alfabet was used allmost by all people in the Balkan before the Cirilic one was invented !
BERZITI 15 hours ago
@BERZITI Cheap shot...as usual......my grandmother was born NOWHERE NEAR mainland GREECE, and your grandfather could not have visited her because he was a poofter and only interested in men!!!!!
helios180746 1 day ago
@helios180746 - my grandfather was healty MACEDONIAN man interested ONLY in woman , ha,ha,ha , and like all world now , HOMOSEXUALITY was invented in Greece !
BERZITI 15 hours ago
@BERZITI CONT/....CHRISTIAN CROSS.....HOW COME YOU DON'T USE ONE WITH PSEUDOMACEDONIAN LETTERS, BUT INSTEAD YOU ARE USING ONE WITH "VERY GREEK" LETTERS WHICH SAY iSOUS.HRISTOS NIKA....MEANING IN "VERY GREEK" JESUS CHRIST IS VICTOR!! YOUR MOB HAVE EVEN STOLEN THE GREEK ORTHODOX ICONS AND CHANGED THE SAINTS NAMES IN THE PSEUDOMACEDONIAN (SERBO/CROATIAN) LANGUAGE, REACHING THE LEVEL OF A SNAKE....AND YOU CAN'T GET ANY LOWER THAN THAT!!
helios180746 1 day ago
@BERZITI DON'T USE THE TERM TURKISH ORTHODOX AGAIN, IF YOU VALUE YOUR PSEUDOMACEDONIAN WORTHLESS LIFE;JUST IN CASE THE TURKS FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE!!!!! HASTA LA VISTA BABY!!!
helios180746 1 day ago
@helios180746 - uuuuuh , I am really afraid now , ha,ha,ha ! you dont like that term ??? I dont like when you greeks use terms like Slavo-bulgars,pseudomacedonian ! everybody gets what he deserve ! HASTA LA VISTA BABY , ha,ha,ha !
BERZITI 1 day ago
@BERZITI I do not give a rat's ass about the term, i only fear for your skin when you call Turks Orthodox...And by the way.......learn what ORTHODOX means first before you use the word...You are making a bloody fool of yourself as always!!
helios180746 1 day ago
@helios180746 -part 2 - you call me a rasist ??? rasisam is state politic in your country ! Greece is only EU member who NEVER ratifyed Helsinky Convetion about minorityes rights ! how many Turks live in East Trakya ? how many slavic Macedonians live in GR part of Macedonia ? Albanians - Arvanites, Wlachs , Gypsies ? nobody have rights ! no schools, Media , not even a right to care his own real family names ( they must sound greek ) example - Trajanovski = Trajanidis ! Cont/
BERZITI 4 days ago
@BERZITI WHO IS TALKING FOR MINORITIES AND HUMAN RIGHTS?? In Fyrom there do however continue to be problems with human rights. According to human rights organisations, in 2003 there were suspected extrajudicial executions, threats and intimidation against human rights activists and opposition journalists and allegations of torture by the police.
gampcptn 4 days ago
@gampcptn - I dont now how is in Fyrom , but I do now that in Republic of Macedonia all minorityes are RECOGNIZED by the Macedonian Constitution and they have fully rights ! schools , Media ( Tv ,Radio,newspapers ,Theaters ...) , even political partyes ! Wlach are only recognized in Macedonia and only hier they have schools in wlach/aromanian language ! minorityes in GR are not even recognized , GR denyed existing of other people in GR !
BERZITI 4 days ago
@BERZITI The country (FYROM) has problems with the human rights of its ethnic minorities. Although Albanians have recently been allowed to study in the Albanian language, before graduating from university they are required to pass a test of their comprehension and use of the Macedonian language.
gampcptn 4 days ago
@gampcptn - dont talk bullshit ! we have 2 ( TWO ) Univercitries in albanian language in Republic of Macedonia ! serb schools, wlachs, Roma , turks , and in your country one big NOTHING ! shame on you !
BERZITI 4 days ago
@BERZITI Shame on you and on your fake country that you always are lying and cheating . COPY - PASTE wikipedia Fyrom Human rights .Everything I posted you can read exactly there. Greece has no minorities Vlachs are Greeks and the Greek mosleems in Thrakia are free to learn whatever they want. Give me a document international not from FYROM propaganda to support your blame regarding Greece . BUT WIKIPEDIA SAYS FOR FYROM exactly what I commented.
gampcptn 3 days ago
@gampcptn - Wlachs are " greeks " !!!??? I am lying !!!??? Wlachs are Wlachs , with own wlach / aromani language , not greeks ! Arvanites ??? slavic Macedonians ?? those so call " muslims " in Trakya are 90 % ethnic Turks , with turkish language you stupid moron ! and they dont have schools in own language , they are recognized as a religious minority , not as ethnic Turks !
BERZITI 3 days ago
@BERZITI Do you also learn ancient Macedonian in your schools ??? Learn ancient Macedonian first and then come to talk to us about you beeing "Macedonian" .
ultranet 3 days ago
@ultranet - no , I dont ! do you learn inn school old - greek or the new one ( coine) with lot of slavic,turkish and albanian words ???
BERZITI 3 days ago
@BERZITI Twistin words again DICKHEAD? Find out what the word means first and then speak!!! God you are a BOUTSOKEPHALOS!!!
helios180746 1 day ago
@helios180746 - I am a BOUTSOKEPHALOS !!!??? and that is comming out the mouth of a DONKEY ????
BERZITI 15 hours ago
@BERZITI Sorry, malaka, i missed the letter "H" in orthodox , to save you trying to think of words to call me.......
helios180746 14 hours ago
@helios180746 Have you learned what ORTODOX means yet? Of course not....and that is because you are a BOUTSOKEPHALOS, which in Greek means "DICKHEAD"!!! Pretty similar to Voukephalos (Alexandros horse) which in "GREEK" means BULLSHEAD.....What does it mean in your Serbo/Croatian dialect or your pseudomacedonian language? Who is the GAIDAROS now!!!
helios180746 14 hours ago
@helios180746 - in my MACEDONIAN language means that allmost everything you are writthing is one big BULLSHIT , same like you !
BERZITI 12 hours ago
@BERZITI IDIOT......Ido not know why i bother with you, but i am not going to allow you to tell people that the Greek language of today is a mixture of other languages....Koene, in Greek means COMMON...do you understand that so far, I will tell you in Arabic as well if you like.....SO....when the Greeks made changes from the Ancient Greek to the Nea Elliniki, (NEO HELLENIC to you) to facilitate speech and writing they called the new VERSION of Hellenic KOENE meaning COMMON. Cont/....
helios180746 13 hours ago
@BERZITI Cont/.....Everything remained the same only it was SIMPLIFIED!!! Sure Greeks use words from other languages unofficially in their everyday speech, from Turkish to Arabic,to Italian, French and God knows what simply to facilitate speech. E.g. TRENO is SIDIRODROMOS in Greek...so i prefer to use TRENO because it is easierSo STOP trying to discredit Greeks by inventing things because you are only making a bloody bigger fool of yourself than you already are!!! Cont/....
helios180746 13 hours ago
@BERZITI Cont/.....How many Greek words are OFFICIALLY in your Serbo/Croatian language.....and DO NOT SAY NONE BECAUSE I KNOW DIFFERENTLY....You are Not dealing with an uneducated person.....I warn you!!!!
helios180746 13 hours ago
@helios180746 - If you want to now how many greek words are in the serbian and croatian , you are in the wrong place with that quesstion ! ask some Serbs or Croats , not me , Iam MACEDONIAN !
BERZITI 12 hours ago
@BERZITI You are gipsy and your lands belongs too Bulgaria. Deth to all slavoskpopians gipsys. MAKEDONIA IS HELLENIC LAND.
Dr3adKnight 6 hours ago
@BERZITI man lets talk together.im not racist neither a nationalist but slavs came to balcans in the 6th century after christ.so you cant be descendant of ancient macedonia.MACEDONIA which you country is called is a greek word do you know that?MAKEDNOS in ancient greek means tall man.you can call you country as you want i have no problem with that but dont say that you have any connection with ancient macedonia.i can accept that as a geographical fact not as a hostorical.history is history
lionheart99917 2 days ago
@lionheart99917 - waht do you think , when the slavic tribes came hier in 5 century , they found empty country ? today modern Macedonians are mixed with the old Macedonians , Iliryans and Thracians ! Greeks are also mixed ( with Arvanites, Wlachs and not to forget , with slavic people too ) ! slavic tribes Milingoi,Ezeritaes ( Peloponessus ) , Rinhines and Sagudates and Vajunites ( Epirus) are hellenized ! or you believe that today greeks are pure old Hellenes ?
BERZITI 2 days ago
@BERZITI you came here 700 years after alexandros the great..there is no 100 per cent pure nation in our days but at least 11 millions greeks have the same religion,the same language and a common national conscience.you are mixed by bulgarians,albanians.gypsies,orthodox,muslims ect.filippos b,father of alexander the great made the union of greece.secodly i repeat you tha the word macedonia is greek.MAKEDNOS in ancient greek means tall man.i dont understand why its a shame to be a slav..
lionheart99917 2 days ago
@lionheart99917 - I wil repeat one more time , we are mix between slavic tribes , old Macedonians, Iliryans and Thracians , that is today modern Macedonian nation ! thats our name , identity , after more than 1500 years hier , we have fully right to call us Macedonians !
BERZITI 2 days ago
@BERZITI its obvious that you have no arguments
lionheart99917 2 days ago
@lionheart99917 - I dont have arguments !!!??? I allready told you who we are , our ethno-genezis ! what more do you want ??? we live in Macedonia more than 1500 years and ( acording to you Greeks ) we dont have right to call ourselfs with that name , and the pontian magjir settlers from Turkey who colonised Macedonia are now bigger Macedonians than we are and they have more right on the Macedonian name ( after only 80 years that they live there ???) .
BERZITI 1 day ago
@BERZITI i repeat i can accept as greek to call your country macedonia but as a geographical fact not as a historical..why you cant be satisfied with that?
lionheart99917 1 day ago
@lionheart99917 - becousse that is the name of my people , my name , that is my identity !
BERZITI 14 hours ago
@lionheart99917 - 11 mill. greeks with " same " language ? you now whay is that ? becousse your country dont recognize minorityes ! Turks in Trakiya, slavic Macedonians , Wlachs, Arvanites !!! that are 4 different languages , but those people dont have right to learn at school in his mother tongue no media , nothing ! even the names and family names must sound greek ( Trajanovski = Trajanidis ) ! in the country where the democracy was born !
BERZITI 2 days ago
@BERZITI they are greeks citizents,they are going to greek schools,they serve in greek army..im talking about the turkish minoritye who are about 80 thousand people..80 thousand in 11 million people..there is no slavic minority in greece since 1945..stop your stupid propaganda..
lionheart99917 2 days ago
@lionheart99917 its not honest to tell lies..thats not a man's behaviour
lionheart99917 2 days ago
@lionheart99917 He is not a MAN....he sits down to urinate!!!!
helios180746 1 day ago
@lionheart99917 - 1 - ofcourse they are GR cityzens , but that doesnt mean they are greek by blood and genes ! they go in GR schools .... ! thats my point ! they are not recognized , they dont enjoyed minorityes rights , thats way they must to follow education only in GR language , and that means slow ASIMILATION ! and thats the fynal goal of the GR state politic ! no slavic minoritye in GR after 1945 ? propaganda ??? i tought you are diferent , less shovinist than mainstream - 2
BERZITI 1 day ago
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@lionheart99917 - 1 - ofcourse they are GR cityzens , but that doesnt mean they are greek by blood and genes ! they go in GR schools .... ! thats my point ! they are not recognized , they dont enjoyed minorityes rights , thats way they must to follow education only in GR language , and that means slow ASIMILATION ! and thats the fynal goal of the GR state politic ! no slavic minoritye in GR after 1945 ? propaganda ??? i tought you are diferent , less shovinist than mainstream - 2
BERZITI 1 day ago
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@lionheart99917 - 1 - ofcourse they are GR cityzens , but that doesnt mean they are greek by blood and genes ! they go in GR schools .... ! thats my point ! they are not recognized , they dont enjoyed minorityes rights , thats way they must to follow education only in GR language , and that means slow ASIMILATION ! and thats the fynal goal of the GR state politic ! no slavic minoritye in GR after 1945 ? propaganda ??? i tought you are diferent , less shovinist than mainstream - 2
BERZITI 1 day ago
@lionheart99917 - 2 - grrek , but you are also wulf under the sheep skin ! never heard of RAINBOW party in Florina ? Pavlos Vaskoupoulos ( real name Pavle Filipov ) ? search on You Tube , you can find lott of videos , ( Meliti , Ovcharani ) about slavic Macedonians in GR , and than we can talk again ! acording to the Greek Helsinki Comitee , more than 30 % of the GR population is from NON - GR origin !
BERZITI 1 day ago
@BERZITI until the dedecate of 90's you were just a part of jugoslavia..tito called you VARDASKA.you werent the first tribe who came in macedonia.before you was rome,goths,celts and the byzantines..its impossible to have any dna connection with macedonia..i agree with you that there isnt a pure nation today but you are too mixed..more than the usual.serbs,bulgarians,muslims,gypsis.you cant compare your country with greece.you are a 15 year country be serious.
lionheart99917 1 day ago
@lionheart99917 - we where federal Republic in the Yugoslavian Federation ! under the name SR . Makedonija ! ( Socialistic Republic of Macedonia ! not Vardarska , do some reaserch before you wright lies ! Celts,Huns,Avars,Gots, they all came , and they all left , nomadic tribes , but we are stil hier ! in Macedonia lives Albanians,Gypsies,Turks,Wlachs , but we mixed ( intermarriages) only with ortodox christians, we dont mix with everyone like you do !
BERZITI 15 hours ago
@lionheart99917 - Until the 1991 when Republic of Macedonia became independent country , GR part of Macedonia was GR province under the oficial name NORTH GREECE and THRACIE ! Stelios Papatemelis was head of the Ministery for North Greece and Trakya in Thessaloniki !!! the name Makedonia was never used there in GR until 1991 ! name of the aerport in Tessaloniki also !
BERZITI 14 hours ago
@BERZITI how deare you to tell such a lies?greeks call this land macedonia before 1830 when greece were indipendent..tell the truth,be a man.you have no honor,you have no arguments..lieslieslieslieslieslies..why?im wondering who tell you things like that...vardaska's schools maybe...its the usual vardaska's propaganda...i suggest you to read too much...to be informed and know the real truth..dont let your country's propaganda to destroy you..thats a friendly advice..think about it.byebye
lionheart99917 5 hours ago
@BERZITI you have to be proud for your descent and not to provide another natio's history as yours.you can call your country as you want but ancient macedonias were as greeks as spartans,athinias,corinthians and all the greek states
lionheart99917 2 days ago
@lionheart99917 No offence but we in Slovakia also learn about Germanic and Celtic tribes that lived here. They arent Slavic but we also accept them as part of our history. Really I dont get it. There is no doubt that these ancient states were Greek but todays Macedonians arent pure Slavs either. Just because they dont speak Macedonian Greek doesnt change their genom. The greek Macedonians in the middle ages just accepted the Slavic brotherhood and became Slavic that way.
SlovanskastranaRR 1 day ago
@SlovanskastranaRR slavs came in balcans after rome,celts,goths,huns,byzantnes so how can be possible to connect them with ancient macedonia...we are taking about a distance of 800 years....guys history is history come on
lionheart99917 23 hours ago
@lionheart99917 But I am not talking about ancient Macedonians who were hellenic by origin and language. I am talking about modern macedonians who are of mixed Slavic and hellenic origin and Slavic by language. Is a Greek American less Greek just because he speaks english? Do you know how many Greeks have Slavic blood? How many Slavs were hellenized? Well that happened in Macedonia. For example Solun(Thessaloniki) was for a few centuries a major Slavic city. It was slavicized.
SlovanskastranaRR 10 hours ago
@BERZITI "rasisam","ritifyed","Convetion","minorityes",.....God you are pathetic.....and why isn't it TRAJANIDIS = TRAJANOVSKI ?
helios180746 1 day ago
@helios180746 - are you a lowyer of LIONHEART99917 !!!??? or asistent ??? that is a discusion between me and him , dont put your nous in another people bussines ! and you now way is not Trajanidis - Trajanovski ? becousse slavic Macedonians are not greeks !
BERZITI 15 hours ago
@helios180746 - part 3 - old Greece is place where the democracy was born , but this one is the place where democracy died and is buried long time ago !
we are not greeks , bulgars or serbs , we are modern Macedonians , mix between slavic tribes who came in 5 - 6 century and mixed with the ancient Macedonians , Trachians and Iliryans , with dominant slavic ethnos and slavic Macedonian language ! and after more than 15 century existing on this soil , NOBODY can change our name .
BERZITI 4 days ago
@helios180746 - do you even now how many slavic tribes contributed in the creating of the modern greek nation ? Milingi and Ezerani ( Ezeritae) in the Peloponesus Peninsula , Rinhines and Sagudates in the Thesaloniki and Halkidiky area , and Vajunites in Epirus area ! they are helennized and today are greeks like you ! ask yourself how many slavic blood and genes you have ??? and how about the Arvanites and Wlachs ??? same story !
BERZITI 4 days ago
@BERZITI Please brother dont explain it to that ignorant. He only sees what he wants to see because according to him the World is only black and white.
SlovanskastranaRR 4 days ago
@SlovanskastranaRR - thanks for your suport slovenski brat ! pozdrav !
BERZITI 3 days ago
@BERZITI Cont/.... arab/turkos and were lighter in colour, they would be.....let me guess......MACEDONIANS, and therefore Greeks!!!!YOU REALLY ARE PATHETIC!!!!
helios180746 4 days ago
@BERZITI
CLASH MY POUTS MONKEY.
POTIS1 2 days ago
@POTIS1 - dont waste your time on You Tube moron , go and find job and this time , PAY YOUR TAXES , ha,ha,ha , otherwise , go and suck some german dick , maybe you wil get some money , arab/greko monkey !
BERZITI 2 days ago
@BERZITI MORE PSEUDOMACEDONIAN INTELLIGENCE ON DISPLAY!!!!!
helios180746 1 day ago
@BERZITI ISOUS HRISTOS NIKA.......MEANS JESUS CHRIST IS VICTOR!!!! GO ON, IDARE YOU TO DENY IT!!! AND THE LANGUAGE YOU SPEAK IS SERBO/CROATION.....DENY THAT ALSO!!!!!! I AM WAITING AND SO ARE THOUSANDS OF OTHERS WHO KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT......EITHER THAT, OR GIVE IT UP AND GO AWAY!!!!
helios180746 13 hours ago
@helios180746 - what is wrong with you fucking moron ??? I allready told you that that tekst on the Miyaks tribal flag is from the Byzantine times , and in those times evrybody use that alphabet , and ISUS HRISTOS - NIKA is slogan in greeks that all ortodox christians use ! so what is your point ? that everybody who use that is " greek " !!!??? and my language is not serbo/ croatian , not greek , not bulgarian , is slavic MACEDONIAN !!!
BERZITI 12 hours ago
@POTIS1 - NEVER was MACEDONIA " greek" teritory until 1913 !!! NEVER in history ! ( perhaps starts written history in 1913 ha,ha,ha !!!???
BERZITI 2 days ago
@BERZITI
YEAH...NEVER...EXCEPT THE LAST 5.000 YEARS, MACEDONIA NEVER WAS GREEK....
AND DONT FORGET....WIKI...
''Alexander III of Macedon (20/21 July 356 – 10/11 June 323 BC), commonly known as Alexander the Great (Greek: Ἀλέξανδρος ὁ Μέγας, Aléxandros o Mégasiii[›]), was a Greek king of Macedon, a state in northern ancient Greece''.
BANANITSA?
POTIS1 2 days ago
@POTIS1 - you now whay was never part of Macedonia greeks ??? becousse was never a greek state ! first one is founded in 1820 !!! created by the western powers, liberated from the turks with help of Russia , even the first grrek king was a german !
BERZITI 2 days ago
fuck skopia makedonia is greek land greek history and greek language.
tisbales 2 weeks ago
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THE PEOPLE IN FYROM BELONG TO SLAVS AND ALSO FYROMIAN LANGUAGE BASED ON SLAVIC ALPHABET LIKE RUSSIAN ETC. SLAVS CAME IN EUROPE IN MIDDLE AGES AND BECAME CHRISTIANS. GREECE HAS ANCIENT CULTURE IN THE AREA OF MEDDITERANEAN SEA. FYROM IS NEWLY ESTABLISHED STATE. WHAT IS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN SCOPJA AND ANCIENT GREEK MACEDONIA?
marios936 2 weeks ago
ORTHODOX BROTHERS!! I'm Serbian And I understand a little what they are saying!! Maybe the language is both a mix of Greek,Serbian
Is it our missing link?
HybodusStudios 2 weeks ago
@HybodusStudios It is a proven fact that the language spoken by the Fyromians today is SERBO/CROATIAN.....i personally worked for many years in the printing industry with professional interpreters/translators and they always denied there was such a language as a Macedonian language, and these were people who came from those parts of the world.
helios180746 2 weeks ago
@helios180746 yeah last fall before 2012 a 27 year old named Ivon came from Macedonia and visited us. I understood allot what he said even though I'm Serbian. He gave one example he said Milk a little differently then in Serbian, So Macedonian language IS SERBIAN accent
HybodusStudios 2 weeks ago
@HybodusStudios no greek person can understand even one word from what is said serbian brother so no :)
777panos 1 week ago
@777panos what r u talkin about?
HybodusStudios 1 week ago
@HybodusStudios I think 777panos is trying to say that a Greek person would not understand anything from a conversation held in the so called Macedonian, Serbo/Croatian, language whereas a Serb, or a Croat would understand some of it because it is made up of both languages.
helios180746 4 days ago
@helios180746 yeap I knew it, thanks for the advice.
Do you know how I can fix My USB device? the computer dosent recognize it.
Tell me a useful tip without calling online or any of that bullshit
HybodusStudios 4 days ago
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FUCK you FYROM
jekoooooo1 2 weeks ago
bravo to those men respect !
NM714 3 weeks ago
yeah, and i am from etiopia :D
XareSoft 3 weeks ago
SLAVS IS NAME FOR SERBS. THAZ MEAN THAT "MACEDONIANS" ARE SERBS AND THERITOY OF REPUBLICA MACEDONIA IS SERBSKA :)
gazdaDare95 3 weeks ago
@gazdaDare95 No all slavs come from Russia ...
Spedfire11 2 weeks ago
@Spedfire11 no SLAVS ARE SERBO-RUSI. AND THEY COME FROM BALKAN
gazdaDare95 2 weeks ago
people from FYROM. want more proof?
read this site
w w w . macedonia-evidence . org
read it WELL.
look how many signatures are by scientists who agree that Macedonia is greek and only greek. and you are just trying to steal greek's history.
spr8hrdm3 4 weeks ago 15
@spr8hrdm3 Friend....they will not visit that site because the truth does not suit them and besides even if they do, they will not comment on it because the overwhelming majority of the signatories are NON GREEK and most eminent Professors etc. from UNIVERSITIES from ALL OVER the world, including Germany, Austria, the U.S just to mention a few. They will not comment on ANYTHING that exposes their lies.I have been trying to get one of them to deny that the language they speak is Cont/.
helios180746 4 days ago
@spr8hrdm3 Cont/....Serbo/Croatian for ages now with no takers!!!
helios180746 4 days ago
VERY VERY SOON ALBADONIAS
karpathos1001 1 month ago
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ok!! your name is fyromians or peones.Ancient peones you was when we was as we are now Macedonians,so peones,... in greek "peos" is the Dick.. and i think..that for you state-village the right name is peonia or peograd or peos direkt.!have a nice dreaming Peomians.
greekolosos 1 month ago
@TrueMakedonian You are fucking good in history and fucking geography.
OI, Dickhead I'm Macedonian and you are Turkish , just look at your skin you look like a monkey and look at some Macedonian we are fair complexion and you're olive(Monkey).You don't even know where Bulgaria is.Ataturk is greek origin, are you happy?
jimglig53 1 month ago
@jimglig53 ???????????? idiot!!!!
helios180746 5 days ago
@helios180746 Oi Mr. Dickhead, Ataturk was born in Salonika and that makes you a Turk.You look like Turk and you probably speak same or similar language. On the north of greece they are MACEDONIANS and they speak MACEDONIAN.
jimglig53 1 day ago
@TrueMakedonian Watch out for Ataturk, he is coming back to his birth city, Salonika. You're more Turkish than me Bulgarian , stupid !!!!!!!!
jimglig53 1 month ago
Bulgars and Bulgarska Vardaska-Banovina ,u r not a nation but a Bulgarska race,u do not have a language but a Bulgarian dialect only.PSEVDOMAKEDONES GYFTOSKOPIANOI.
gampcptn 1 month ago
haah we are macedonians not slavs
MrKristijan97 1 month ago
@MrKristijan97 And why are you speaking a Slavic language then?
SlovanskastranaRR 1 month ago
Macedonians speaks Greek,Alexander's the great spoken language,
FYROMIANS are speaking their dialect and not an official language ,so this dialect is bulgarian for 90%,and 10% mixed with other languages mostly serbian.So FYROM the country,Fyromians the people,BULGARIAN the language.
gampcptn 1 month ago
@gampcptn Proven fact and i dare anyone to dispute it!!! FYROMIANS SPEAK SERBO/CROATIAN!!!!!!!
helios180746 5 days ago
@helios180746 - firomians ??? who nows !!! but we MACEDONIANS , we speak MACEDONIAN language !
BERZITI 5 days ago
@BERZITI hey moron!!!!! DENY THAT THE LANGUAGE YOU SPEAK IS SERBO/CROATIAN AND MAKE A BLOODY FOOL OF YOURSELF!!!! MACEDONIAN INDEED!!!!!
helios180746 5 days ago
I have to tell that these men are right, but Greeks have to realize several things. First of all, the world knows this country as Macedonia and its inhabitants as Macedonians you cant do nothing about it... but educated people know they are Slavic. Secondly, openly calling Macedonians "Fyromians" is insulting so dont try to look stupid in front of foreigners( Greeks also have unpleasent "nicknames" especially in northern part of Europe). Thirdly, many greeks are of Slavic origin themselves.
SlovanskastranaRR 1 month ago
@SlovanskastranaRR greek nicknames like gayreeks or fags?
georgeturbo1983 1 month ago
@georgeturbo1983 Gayreeks? That would have to be a smelly gay person.....fags? Oh That is cigarettes!! So much for your Greek nickname argument......STUPID MORON!!!! NOW there is a word that describes you perfectly!!!!! And by the way....Gay means happy....without a care! In ENGLISH.....but then again you wouldn't know about that!!!
helios180746 5 days ago
@SlovanskastranaRR You, Mr Slovak are talking through the wrong orifice!!!! So shut your anal passage and give your mouth a chance to speak!!!! And please learn English before you post again!!!
helios180746 5 days ago
@helios180746 First of all, I speak english quite well I think. Second, your vulgarity only proves your dumbness. Third of all... Well I will tell it like this. The world doesnt give a fuck about you pityfull problems in the Balkans. If there isnt war involved your problems are just childish. This "Macedonian" problem, and you making it so "big" is so laughable that thanks to you and everybody alike, makes Greece looking like a country full of retards. Rather solve your economics.
SlovanskastranaRR 4 days ago
@SlovanskastranaRR The Greek (EUROPEAN) economy is only a recent problem.The Macedonia issue is a long time affair created by people without an identity who are trying to prove that they are something they are not, in order to lay claim on Greek soil. You Mr Slovak, stay out of something that does not concern you, or else you will be proven to be a bigger FOOL than those pseudomacedonians already proved themselves to be.You are still talking from the wrong orifice as Cont/...
helios180746 4 days ago
@helios180746 - Macedonia issue is created by the greek political elite ! who is claiming greek soil !!!??? we are talking about REPUBLIC of MACEDONIA , not about the greek part of Macedonia, or the bulgarian part of Macedonia !
BERZITI 4 days ago
@BERZITI REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA???? NO SUCH PLACE!!!!!!!!!
helios180746 1 day ago
@helios180746 - no such a place !!!??? yeah , right ! recognized by 138 states under that name ! is not existing only in your empty head , who cares what you are thinking !
BERZITI 15 hours ago
@SlovanskastranaRR Cont/....suggested to you earlier,so please take the appropriate action to correct this AILMENT. Just because Greece has problems with the economy, it does not mean that the Greeks should allow a group of impostors to call themselves something that is purely Greek. You, China, a number of other countries and GOD himself can call them Macedonian but they will NEVER be Macedonians, because Macedonians are Greek as history proved it time and time again!!! Cont/
helios180746 4 days ago
@SlovanskastranaRR The world, as you put it might not give a F...K (meaning sexual intercourse and guess who is the vulgar one here) about the Balkan problems, but Greece does. And i will tell you something else DUMBASS, Germany and co. are not handing out money to Greece to save it, they are doing it to save themselves....but i am not going to go into details for a Slovakian FOOL!!! Time will tell, hang about to see the fate of the EU.
helios180746 4 days ago
@helios180746 HoHoHo :D What passion :D Yés it is clear that Germans dont care about you Greeks, but about their money. So does everybody who lent you money, including us Slovaks. You dont get it dont you? You think people are learning in schools that Alexander was Slavic or what? You should learn that people listen to regular historics, not pseudohistorics, but your hysteria about something that is so obvious only shows what a retard you are. Have a nice day. ..wiseguy.
SlovanskastranaRR 4 days ago
Yeah met them few on the internet. Every nation has its "extremes". But they are partly right. Yes they are Slavs but the fact is most of them are really slavicized inhabitants of that area. Slavs are Nordic people with light features while today Macedonians resemble more Southern Europeans. So I think yes these guys have things in common with ancient Macedonians just like Greeks,but speak Slavic language.
SlovanskastranaRR 1 month ago
@TrueMakedonian OI Mr. Dickhead. You stupid king renamed every thing in Macedonia with stupid greek names and I don't except that name because in Macedonian is FILIP. And for your sake learn one thing, Bulgaria is different to Macedonia like Turkey to greece.
jimglig53 1 month ago
Dont understand this argue between Greeks and Macedonians. Southern Macedonia is Greek and Northern is Slavic. Ancient Macedonians were Hellenic.... when we say Macedonia today we understand 2 things ...Macedonia a Slavic country of Slavic people in the northern part of ancient Macedonia that is a sovereign state...and Macedonia the southern part of ancient Macedonia today a province of Greece. People who dont see the difference have probably low IQ.
SlovanskastranaRR 1 month ago
@SlovanskastranaRR yeah but the thing is that Slavic "macedonians" tell to everyone that they are descendants of Ancient Greek Macedonians, and say that they speak their language is the language of ancient Macedonia, and even though Greece is willing to settle for FYROM as a name for them in order for there to be no confusion, the slavs want to be called just Macedonian, and their higher cause with that will be to conquer Greek macedonia and unite it with their "macedonian" state.
georgeturbo1983 1 month ago
@georgeturbo1983 I dont understand your upset about this. Everybody knows that todays Macedonia(the slavic republic) and ancient Macedonia are two different things. But the fact is that everybody calls them Macedonians, but everybody at the same time knows they are Slavic. Macedonians as we know them today are slavs and slavicized ancient macedonians. And to Alexander the Great he was also the part of the history of todays Macedonia so they can praise him, but he was hellenic.
SlovanskastranaRR 1 month ago
@SlovanskastranaRR yes, we all understand that macedonians today are just slavs that settled there in the 6th century AD, and that they are not descendants of Alexander the Great, so we just want them to keep their name as FYROM, but the thing is that they think that are direct descendants of Alexander the Great, not slavs, and they want want to be called Macedonia, so they can annex Sallonika and Greek macedonia, watch this for info /watch?v=AhckJUVSifI .
georgeturbo1983 1 month ago
@georgeturbo1983 And when we talk about Alexander the Great,well todays Republic of Macedonia lies in the Northern parts of ancient Macedonia so Alexander is also part of their history. And if you like or not,everybody calls them Macedonians and their country Macedonia but slavic.Both sides take it too much serious because when you stop listening to the crap of extremists and start listening to a stranger,like me you will know that people see the difference between ancient and todays macedonia.
SlovanskastranaRR 1 month ago
@SlovanskastranaRR watch the fucking video I told you and you 're figure out why we are so upset damn it /watch?v=AhckJUVSifI .
georgeturbo1983 1 month ago
@georgeturbo1983 I know exactly what is the core of your dispute and I dont have to see any video but you didnt understand what I was saying. Ancient Macedonia and todays Slavic republic of Macedonia are two different things. Ancient Macedonians were Hellenic origin, todays Macedonians from the Rebublic of Macedonia are of Slavic origin. Claims of those extremeists that they are pure ancient Macedonians ancestors of Alexander the Great are misleading. You just make too much noise for nothing.
SlovanskastranaRR 1 month ago
@SlovanskastranaRR I know all this, I was listeniing to you before, but the fact is that even though we know it they just don't get it because of the propaganda, they think that they are direct descendants of Alexander the Great, and the fact of the matter is that if this whole naming issue goes their way they will want to take Greek macedonia, and that means war, just sarch unified macedonia and you will see, watch the documantary I am telling you to watch because you don't know the whole story
georgeturbo1983 1 month ago
@georgeturbo1983 I say you taking these things too serious. For example we Slovaks had always quarrels with Magyars, because they still dream of a Greater Hungary. They claim we "stole their land" altough we were figting for our land against the Franks many centuries before the asiatic looking Magyars came to our lands and enslaved us. They are just claiming what was never their. So are these extremists from Macedonia. Most of Macedonians dont give a fuck about their ideas I think.
SlovanskastranaRR 1 month ago
@SlovanskastranaRR /watch?v=AhckJUVSifI .
georgeturbo1983 1 month ago
@SlovanskastranaRR /watch?v=AhckJUVSifI .
georgeturbo1983 1 month ago
@georgeturbo1983 Yeah I heard about this, but dont take it too serious. The essence of todays macedonian culture is Slavic so is their language. If we take the todays Macedonians as a whole they are Slavic,but if we look at the genetics the things are different. You just react on extremists who are blinded.Today there are many idiots in Slavic nations who explain the origin whatever they can but to proove they are not Slavic.For example that Croats are Iranians, Poles are Sarmatians etc.
SlovanskastranaRR 1 month ago
@SlovanskastranaRR I think you'd better check your own IQ if you cannot see what is happening here.I will tell you ONCE.Those you call Northern Macedonians (NO SUCH THING) are trying to prove to the world that they are the true Macedonians (WHO ARE GREEK) in order to attract enough support from the world so that they can claim Thessaloniki and the rest of Macedonia as theirs.Can you just see the Greeks and the Bulgarians (1/3 of Macedonia) rolling out the red carpet for Cont..
helios180746 1 week ago
@SlovanskastranaRR ...these MORONS and applaud them as they come in?? I am affraid they are in for a great shock. And if anyone thinks that Turkey is an enemy of Greece ,better think again.....just look to FYROM!!!!
helios180746 1 week ago
@TrueMakedonian Yes , Macedonia has debt of 26% of the GDP and greece about 600% of theGDP , so Macedonia has long way to go.Get of the grass, dickhead !!!!!!!!!
jimglig53 1 month ago
@TrueMakedonian greece is $500 fucking billions in red and you claim that Macedonia is the poorest in the world , you're dickhead with a title.Go to fucking Athens and observe the demonstrations and ask why is it so.
jimglig53 1 month ago
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Makedonia was never Greek , that is FACT.
Tell me , what is the oldest coin with the inscription : ELLADA,HELLAS or Greek.
Tell me , what is available on all coins of the Macedonians:Ellada, Hellas or Greek?
Tell me , what is in the bible writing: Ellada, Hellas or Greek?
STOP steeling the MAKEDONIAN History.
Viva la Makedonia 4 all MAKEDONIANS
Devoj4E 1 month ago
@TrueMakedonian Oi knucklehead ! no one can read that, look at you stupid politician all Mugs, they've no more money to throw like drunken sailors so shut up and sit and watch.
We are in NATO and soon in Europe and you are out of NATO and out of Europe and than you can call tour self what ever you want. Remember these names Alexander, Phillip, Macedonia and Aegean Macedonia not only Vardarska.
jimglig53 1 month ago
@TrueMakedonian Name thee sportsman named Philip or Alexandra and if you think we speak the same language, da ti go ebam ceceto.
jimglig53 2 months ago
An honestly man in a fake-state.
bravo to him.
alexxxandros1 2 months ago
YOU MONKEYDONIANS HISTORY STARTS AFTER TITO TRY NOT TO BE A JOKE THE WORLD IS LAUGHING WITH YOU PLEASE WAKE UP
karpathos1001 2 months ago
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Macedonia is Greek everybody knows it and these Macedonians are not ancient peple they are slavic don't have any connection with Alexander. This fool form FYRO Macedonia are rally mad! They are slavic people; more than a half of them are serbs 'cause it was Serbian territory during last 2 centuries (Otoman ocupation) and there were serbs in these teritory, they even didn't exist in that period and they are mix of serbs and bulgarians. So FYROM go to hell you idiots! SERBIA SUPPROT GREECE!
Bucmir 2 months ago
Slavic deep to the bones,monkeydonians,he said so not me.FUCK YOU NOW.
gampcptn 2 months ago in playlist More videos from taxalia
Greece is broke and their propaganda is Kaputsky. they can jump in the lake now , Macedonia is going in Europe.
jimglig53 2 months ago
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SKOPIANS BASTARDS STOP USE THE NAME OF MACEDONIA THIS NAME BELONG TO GREECE YOU ARE A NATION OF SLAVS
aenaosdorieas 2 months ago
''monkeydonski''jezik = 95% bulgarian...
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MACEDONIA=HELLAS
drmack70 2 months ago
@drmack70 Ti cicaj Turski kurac.
jimglig53 2 months ago
@jimglig53 ..turski kurac pusi samo neki skopljanac,nikad makedonac!(=grk)
drmack70 2 months ago
μια πολύ μικρή διόρθωση στην μετάφραση παίδες, δεν λέει Σλαβική αλλά ΣΛΟΒΕΝΙΚΉ
Και παρεμπιπτόντως, όλοι οι Σλάβοι των βαλκανίων ανοίκουν σε αυτή την ομάδα και οι γλώσσες τους ανήκουν σε αυτή την ομάδα με μικρές διαφορές μεταξύ τους... εγώ ας πούμε που μεταξύ άλλων μιλάω και Βουλγαρικά, καταλάβω και Σλαβο-"μακεδόνσκι" και Σέρβικα και Κροατικά κτλ κτλ για να καταλάβετε, η αυθεντική ελληνοκυπριακή διάλεκτος έχει μεγαλύτερες διαφορές με την νεοελληνική από ότι τα σλαβομακεδονικά με τα Σερβικά!
cavemancyproductions 2 months ago
ХАХАХАХАХАХАХАХ македонски език не съществува. Вие Говорите БЪЛГАРСКИ.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA makedonian language does not exist. You speak BULGARIAN.
dearddevil92 2 months ago