@NotOnlySelfLover You'd better believe they will! -- the mice, rats, and cockroaches, anyway. In fact, the issue of cockroaches surviving is literally as guaranteed as the sun rising tomorrow in the east; and setting in the west.
@rayandreina Well, then there is something I don't know about cockroaches. Because the adult cockroaches I have seen died when exposed to subfreezing temperatures.
@NotOnlySelfLover Well, they would probably just instinctively go underneath to some place where it's warm (they feed on garbage, anyway), coming out when it's warmer outside. In any event, it would be very unpleasant for us humans!
@rayandreina Or they would just...ehm...hibernate or fall into anabiosis for the cold time. Or their eggs wouldn't be destroyed, even if they would themselves. But any aftermath of nuclear war, even without any climate change, would definitely be very unpleasant for humans, yes.
@lothartheterrible I could look this up, but exactly how does RP inhibit circulation? 1st thing that comes to mind is effects on pumping efficiency of the heart or some how has an effect on the vascular system- - severe vasoconstriction. I have witness the effects of heat failure and seen delirium induced from that. A great friend of our family and WW2 vet died from CHF. It was tough at the end because he would be talking about things that weren't there, like a ladder.
Yep,that's right..run right outside into the field,and bring a HUGE amount of radioactive contamination back to the shelter to kill everybody else off!
And remember, you can't reverse damage from radiation. You can't take shelter till it wears off, go out again, get a dose, take shelter, go out again etc. etc. The more times you go out, the weaker you will get until you're too sick to do anything.
You know, from my understanding, the amount of exposure the two of them would get from being outside for such a brief time 5 days after an attack would not be fatal. Am I wrong? I mean, it wouldn't be GOOD, but it wouldn't be fatal to her.
@snidelywhiplash Essentially you would be correct; the period for acute onset radiation sickness would have passed by this point due to the lack of fallout. From here on out, people would start developing chronic symptoms (which they eventually will). I'm surmising the idea was that the longer they stayed in their shelter, the further the radiation levels would drop. Sad thing about it is, either way they are goners.
@snidelywhiplash As I know after nuclear explosion you must NOT levae shelter in 48 hours. After that you can be outside for example for 5 or 10 minutes. Next days you can be outside for little more time every day. And after 14 day you can work normal outside the shelter. That i know with sureness
@nickpaulie potassium iodine pills are a must if you plan on going out in any case, and anything you might scavenge from the ruins is bound to be irradiated... so you're screwed no matter what if you're within a hundred miles of ground zero.
@snidelywhiplash after 5 days as i know you can go outside for about 10 minutes.And after 14 day you can go outside normally. I read this in "SAS survival manual"
You can't see it, you can't feel it, and you can't taste it, but it's here, it's going through you like an x ray. Right into your cells... How true...
@peggymount Normally I just delete comments like this. But you have what appears to be the Fourth Doctor's Time Spiral as your avatar. Which is all sorts of win.
@lothartheterrible Yes I must apologise for that. Never comment with beer in your system. Sorry about that, forgive me. I did watch Threads, The War Game and The Day After last night. I just found The Day After, whilst having some quite disturbing and harrowing scenes to be a little...oh help me, I'm struggling for words here. I certainly aint going to get critic of the year award. Glad you like the Dr Who time tunnel. Have a look at the vid. And apologies again for being quite so rude.
@peggymount well yes' threads was good'' but a bomb blast this big todays Bombs- would have vaporised people in minites.. then remember the bomb does not hit the ground it explodes above it say 1000 feet'. and all electrical stuff would drain-.I hope this wont happen if it does by any in this world say iran. then this world has just made it's mark.,,
then get rid of them.nuclerar power is for energy not killing.
@terryjohn One H bomb would have left no survivors in Sheffield, unless they had a bunker. "Today's warheads?" They have not changed from the early seventies when missiles became more accurate. That enabled them to made the megaton yield smaller. The weapons of the 1950's and 1960's were in fact a lot larger because of the inaccuracy of the missiles.
Fact is, it would be to expensive to recreate digitally a nuclear bomb. Terminator II scene is probably more accurate than this and threads.
@irishchrisc right' in the film termintor one mistake' fall out from bombs yet they fight the machines after. lol..
yes but the blast on top would break your bones and melt your eyeballs .from up to 15 miles the fires would engulf say 10 miles.if you take cover with thick plated doors the heat would melt them. there his no runnin away from a world in a grave.
if it did happen you might as well kill yourself..((.see film on the beach
@irishchrisc it makes no differnce what bomb. just mass death.I had this discustion 30 years ago. yes 30.and world was very worried then more than today why ! people today are so conplacent in there lives tryin to keep up with there niebours .cars etc. do me a favor worry about the bomb...NOW more than ever.
@terryjohn I know it would be terrible. True people are complacent. if you are not under cover within 10 miles of the blast/heat flash, you are knackered. The largest ever H bomb detonated had a firestorm of a radius of 12 miles. Today's bombs are a lot smaller. Fact is, nobody knows have much fallout there will be, and for how long. It is all guesswork really. Same goes for a "Nuclear winter" I do believe they scare you, by exaggerating the extent of that.
@irishchrisc a winter well' just a small one' as for the heat id say heat death..but mans life will no doubt end..
ok if a 2 miles comet hits the earth. it would kill people and flood parts of world. but at least man will prevail...but nuke wars fall out radiation.don't think about it.
@terryjohn heres a test I was talkin to my mum i said see this pen im holding' in say 10 years might be radiactive from nuke war'everything we make we knock down..
as a history thats true my family helped build the chain to the Titanic ..true.i wouldnt think that my family had a hand in it. when they show the chain on the wreck.
@terryjohn the comet would darken the skies, no real day for at least five years. Famine galore, the ecosystem would prevail, it has before, but we wouldn't.
The people who where in the Chernobyl nuclear plant were affected to very different extents by the radiation. Some died quickly, some died slowly and one documented had very few affects despite all being in the same control room.
@ChristophDollis The wiriters of this film originally planned it to be more realistic. The network (and no doubt the advertisers) deemed many scenes "too disturbing" and required them to be cut. Dumbed-down nuclear war? Oh, please.
@eragon2121 In Jericho, they used a salt mine as a fallout shelter for many people, and an old man suffered from a panic attack, which became so bad he had a fatal heart attack. So it's not ALWAYS a girl who freaks out.
They always show the females as either in denial or acting stupid in some way. This is why males in this society behave so arrogantly and irresponsibly. They are the largest consumers of Hollywood Bull Crap! Of cpirse law breaks down in the midst of chaos. We saw it with the Katrina experiment. The stand down was practice. Good ole boys became their usual murderous selves.
Okay. Let's kill her because she basically killed herself.
She had a breakdown and understandably so. She was the cute girl next door with her future life, husband and children ahead of her...all gone in the blink of an eye. Stuck in a basement that smelled of urine and feces, claustrophobia and panic settling in, its not hard to understand why she would break down and try to grasp a scrap of her former life.
All jocularity aside, I feel very sorry for anyone who ends up in a shelter with you. Anyone willing to brand someone a "dumbfuck who should be shot" for succumbing to the hysteria of total nuclear devastation and the destruction of all things familiar is not someone I'd want to share my Spam with.
Call me a cynic, but I'd rather die quickly of radiation poisoning than slowly of leukemia, lymphoma, or any of the myriad other assorted cancers that would no doubt be suffered by those unfortunate enough to survive.
@ChristophDollis reminds me of the jericho series...yet thats way too optimisitc a outcome...23 nukes going off at once, most on the east coast right next to eachother, would mean massive fallout...in fact, realisiticaly...most of the east , lower west and south amerixca would be uninhabitable...even if their were survivors, the high radiation, low supplies, no tech and no help...diesease, would also spread rapidly...realisiticaly, the series got it wroung
@ChristophDollis well reasons why many survived japans just 2 and 1 at each place not over 600+ nukes around world USA London..just think. if it happens and it will but matter of when...
I prey it wont'
Quote I leave the 20th century without no Regrets.''
@terryjohn True. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed, but the surrounding areas were not. In a global exchange, victims could not expect help to come from outside any time soon. Also, the bombs dropped on Japan were very small compared to the weapons used in this film. They were airbursts as well, meaning that fallout was minimal. Missile silos would be targeted by groundbursts, which produce massive amounts of fallout, including long-half-life particles like Strontium 90 and Cesium 137.
@lothartheterrible Well, lothar, I've done a good bit of research on the subject of nuclear war survival too. While I agree that I wouldn't want to bring a sick person into my shelter, my only real reason would be that , depending on how sick they were, they may be a lost cause and a waste of food, water, medical and other supplies. But this was Farmer Dahlberg's daughter. He's not just going to leave her to die. But general info says that it's not dangerous to treat ill nuke victims.
The EMP from the 1st bomb detonated high the air would have knocked them out of the sky as the electric pulse would have destroyed the electrical equipment and seized the engines and even if they did not get knocked out of the air, they would have had to land as they would have run out of fuel... and every USAF base would have been fried.
@bjboedy But it surely depends on the altitude. An earlier comment stated that SALT 2 banned high altitude nukes. I'm only worried about this kind of thing since I'm on the Assistant Staff for RAF command.
Moleman, I agree with you. But if I were fighting this, I would detonate a nuclear warhead high in the atomsphere as to ensure that I can wipe out any strategic military command. But if it ever got this bad, would it really matter? Life as we know it would end.
@WaitWhatWasThat1 Castle Bravo, a 20 or so megaton nuke (about 4 times as big as your typical warhead), had a mushroom cloud up in the stratosphere. It's pretty much one-way for everything except the bombers who didn't get shot down by missiles.
@kc5cxu What, someone sitting screaming after waking from a nightmare? I did it myself, November 3, 2004 when I realized we'd re-elected George W. Bush. I haven't been right in the head since.
@jimmykola Dude; I wasn't agreeing with you. I was taken aback by the fact that you could not manage to spell "Obama" correctly. I am of the school of thought that *all* politicians are full of shit; Obama's as big a liar as Dubya. Big difference is, Obama didn't drag us into an unnecessary war resulting in the deaths of thousands of servicemen (and don't say anything about 9/11, either; Iraq had jack shit to do with 9/11).
@lothartheterrible Dude relax, don’t be taken aback, it was just a typo. All politicians are the same. Obama (see, I spelled it right) has just made the problems worse. I guess I have buyer’s remorse. As far as 911, and Iraq, that's the reason I voted for Obama. Stay well, jimmykola.
@lothartheterrible Agreed. 1000%. As long as Americans keep bellyaching about which President has fucked us the most, we will continue to miss a very large (and obvious to me) point. Doesn't matter who occupies that big comfy chair in the oval office; has been YEARS since we had a President in office not following someone else's hidden agenda. And none of those past agenda's (nor the current one) has the American people's best interest at heart.
it doesnt matter if she went outside....being 10 feet underground wont stop the radiation from killing you....might as well be 5 miles or more underground just to be safe.
If you noticed later on the film. her parents and younger sister was not sick with radiation. of course Danny is blind totally and soon to be sick. which means Denise and Stephen were poisoned by radiation from outside. the shelter was still considered safe for refuge.
I guess some people can withstand the radiation sickness better than others , there was a fire brigade captain at the Chernobyl fire that lived without any side effects after most of his company died
@boynewwave I've read about the after effects of catching a partial glimpse or full glimpse a nuke. First if the flash isn't focused thru the lens of the eye then it would only lead to temporary blindness like the white you see from a camera flash now in danny's case I'm sure that the flash was focused thru the lens and that would leave scarring on the retina but the scarring would be for how long the flash was focused on his retina.
@sonyhandycam520 for the most part you look into the eye of the blast, theres more than a good chance your eyes would be running down your face like tears. And you would suffer very much. It is underplayed on here trust me.
in 5days the rads wouldnt clear so people comeing out of there shelters was a bad mistake they were litleraly killing them selfs becuase the rads are to strong so health issues would develop fast
I see there is a misunderstanding about EMP - it destroys specifically semiconductors. When in the 60-s the US did a lot of high-altitude atomic testing, it knocked out accidently many of its own satellites (and possibly some Russians), not realizing that solar-panels on the satellites are just large semiconductors. Thats why in the SALT treaties high altitude testing was specifically banned.
Certainly not. It would make a way too cynical impression. Like "we do want to nuke each other, but for you others not to suffer from it too much, we'll give you a suicide pill. " But I think some university in the USA did make such a project in 1985, producing huge amounts of suicide pills for this case.
And besides, it would mean something no government would ever do - to admit there is no f*cking hope at all. A government is supposed to be responsible for creating the country's future and always providing some hope, even if it's one in a billion. But issuing suicide pills would be like admitting being about to just coldly murder the world. Even Hitler would have had a hard time being so honest even to himself about just murdering the whole world.
Thanks for putting this up. They should be showing both this and Threads on as many channels as possible around the world. Make people think. The post-Cold War generation has no idea! Love the comments, too. Good stuff,
I think this version of "The Day After" is the one released on DVD by MGM in 2004. The same version that was released theatrically overseas. It added a few moments of footage like the child screaming. But it also dropped some lines of dialogue throughout the film and moved some of the scenes around. I actually prefer the 1983 TV version released on home video by Summit. It seems to have a better flow to it. Anyone else have an opinion on these different versions of "The Day After"?
The radiation suit that I own was used by the soviet liquidators to clean the most contaminated parts of Chernobyl,and in comparison as the bomb gives off it's rads they are pretty weak as they disperse over a massive area very quickly.There is still radiation in Chernobyl,but the effects of a nuclear strike would not last too long,and not everybody owns a radiation proof jumpsuit/gas mask,but to cover the face and the body with anything like a balaclava and a thick leather jacket will help.
It is very humbling dont you think i mean my dad said that this sould be required watching for teenagers from 13-18 so that they realise that there is more to life than the latest cell phone or the new look. When you think about it people are so stupid like the farm girl. Look its all over everthing is just fine egggggggggggggggg wrong answer dumb ass. GO go get killed by the radiation we will stay in the basement and be fine till the radiation goes away.
@KeiserWilhelm2: I think all of our military and political leaders should be forced to watch this movie and similar every month for a couple years before they take office, or whatever it takes to realize a nuclear war would end badly for all of us.
Nuclear war = forget it. I would not want to live in the world remaining. Too cold to grow crops, everything would be mutated. Most people would be ill days after being irradiated. Radiation sickness is not pretty.
KI03 potassium pills,a soviet liquidator jumpsuit and an NBC gas mask with NBC filters,a basement and a bit of luck you'll be fine,apparently the pills counter radiation ingestion so that you could take off the mask to eat and drink.
The only thing KI does is block the thyroid gland from uptaking radioactive iodine 131, and even then, it's only useful in young children and teens. The good news is the radioactivity from a detonation decreases to safe levels after about 3 weeks. Life wouldn't be pretty, but it would continue on...
Fall out radiation is not very penetrating, and a medium thickness of land (2-3 m)could protect a person virtually for ever. And We can read that radioactivity decreases quite rapidly, becoming one tenth after seven days, and one hundredth after 49 days
The basement shelter that they are in cant have a protection factor more then 10 prob less,they would of received a lethal dose on the first day when rates were still very high outside the shelter.if inital rates were 1000-3000 rem per hour the first day they would of received 100-300 per hour the first day.450 rems is a lethal dose
yes you are correct. This is a dramatization though, but it is not fiction as such. In order to complete the movie, the producers decided not to kill everyone off on the first reel.
Real life wouldn't be so caring of course.
It's good you know your stuff. Just remember when the movie was made.
ya, if you are in the blast area, chances of survival over the long term are pretty much nill. Either the blast gets you or radiation will get you months to years down the line.
If I understand correctly, the Dahlberg farm was also well away from the area of concentrated detonations. Radioactive fall-out would reach them of course, but I should think it would be reduced somewhat. Even more so with the passage of time.
Your talking fantasy because fallout can be blown over hundreds miles and still remain highly radioactive. And anyway what about nuclear power station if you hit one them with a nuke, there's radiation there that has a half life of thousands years.
Yes. Consider hundreds of warheads detonating within an hour or so. Moscow and the entire East coast of the US would see hundreds of warheads. That many close together like the Russian Satin missiles with up to 10 BIG warheads in each missile would irradiate the entire upper atmosphere.FORGEDDABOUTIT!!
If you hit a nuclear power station, anything within about 15 to 20 miles of there is uninhabitable for about 700 to 1000 years. Also the radiation from that plant will continue to blow for that amount of 700 to 1000 years.
Radiation decays 10 fold for every 7 fold increase in time..assuming 3000rems per hour after the first hour(and thats prob way to high)after 5 days the rates would of been 30 rems and hour.lethal dose would be received in 18 hours not 10 mins
at 1 : 50 cockroaches, fallout will affect them, but with a short life span, it will be same of surviving, but the blast itself will kill them if in the way.
The scene where they are runnig outside is of course utterly unrealistic: they would have immediately started suffering from severe radiation poisoning (especially if you look at the dust on the ground...). But then again, it still is a (very educational) movie.
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Most of the brainy guys that would get technology production going again are now dead or dying the ok ones are out looking for food for their families or tying to get far from the developed areas.
The USA would not rebuid for a very long time. Theirs no oil production and no production of chemicals and steel and plastics all the farming machines has their circuits fried from EMP or they will eventaully run out of fuel. The only way they can rebuild is to start with steam and coal again the microchips are all fried from EMP now and theirs no microchip factories able to function.
Humans lived for thousands of years without sophisticated technology, i think we'd get allong well enough for the circumstances over the long haul. Makes me wanna play fallout 3 agian. lol
I hate that girl... everyone's entitled to their little temper tantrum.
whiskerchild 3 weeks ago
Yes, cockroaches are the only guaranteed survivors of a full-scale nuclear war -- along with mice, rats, flies, mosquitoes, fleas, etc.
rayandreina 5 months ago
@rayandreina will they survive the frost of nuclear winter?
NotOnlySelfLover 5 months ago
@NotOnlySelfLover You'd better believe they will! -- the mice, rats, and cockroaches, anyway. In fact, the issue of cockroaches surviving is literally as guaranteed as the sun rising tomorrow in the east; and setting in the west.
rayandreina 4 months ago
@rayandreina Well, then there is something I don't know about cockroaches. Because the adult cockroaches I have seen died when exposed to subfreezing temperatures.
NotOnlySelfLover 4 months ago
@NotOnlySelfLover Well, they would probably just instinctively go underneath to some place where it's warm (they feed on garbage, anyway), coming out when it's warmer outside. In any event, it would be very unpleasant for us humans!
rayandreina 4 months ago
@rayandreina Or they would just...ehm...hibernate or fall into anabiosis for the cold time. Or their eggs wouldn't be destroyed, even if they would themselves. But any aftermath of nuclear war, even without any climate change, would definitely be very unpleasant for humans, yes.
NotOnlySelfLover 4 months ago
"All it take is one bad day to reduce the sanest man to lunacy"
The Joker - The Killing Joke
"When the chips are down, these "civilized people", they'll eat each other."
The Joker - The Dark Knight
siralucard19 6 months ago
I saw this movie when it first was on tv as an 17 yr old.
F everyone who thinks ANY country having nukes are a a good idea.
chetzmom 9 months ago
@chetzmom
It's better than the alternative of WWII tactics with 21st Century weapons.
mushmouth4life 9 months ago
let's hope this never happens.
burn19ballz 9 months ago
Radiation sickness does not induce delirium. Dehydration and shock, however, can.
BlackWolf6507 11 months ago
@BlackWolf6507 Radiation poisoning inhibits circulation, which can limit the oxygen to the brain and therefore induce delirium. So yes, it can.
lothartheterrible 11 months ago 5
@lothartheterrible I could look this up, but exactly how does RP inhibit circulation? 1st thing that comes to mind is effects on pumping efficiency of the heart or some how has an effect on the vascular system- - severe vasoconstriction. I have witness the effects of heat failure and seen delirium induced from that. A great friend of our family and WW2 vet died from CHF. It was tough at the end because he would be talking about things that weren't there, like a ladder.
sinusbradycardia 1 month ago in playlist day after
@BlackWolf6507 Dont forget clusterfobia, after days in the same place, a person can become delirious because of it.
supercj12 8 months ago
@supercj12 Or "claustrophobia", a very similar condition...
lothartheterrible 6 months ago 4
Yep,that's right..run right outside into the field,and bring a HUGE amount of radioactive contamination back to the shelter to kill everybody else off!
jimmbo118 1 year ago
Take note if someone in your shelter is acting crazy. Tie them to a chair for their own good and the good of others.
poodtang1 1 year ago
And remember, you can't reverse damage from radiation. You can't take shelter till it wears off, go out again, get a dose, take shelter, go out again etc. etc. The more times you go out, the weaker you will get until you're too sick to do anything.
Bluehawk2008 1 year ago
@ 1:52 made me jump
airplanebuilderman 1 year ago
What would you do to pass the time in a dark cellar all day?
Rockyfan10060 1 year ago
I'm stocked up on peanut butter, and water because you never know.
4SCARECROWS 1 year ago
You know, from my understanding, the amount of exposure the two of them would get from being outside for such a brief time 5 days after an attack would not be fatal. Am I wrong? I mean, it wouldn't be GOOD, but it wouldn't be fatal to her.
snidelywhiplash 1 year ago
@snidelywhiplash Essentially you would be correct; the period for acute onset radiation sickness would have passed by this point due to the lack of fallout. From here on out, people would start developing chronic symptoms (which they eventually will). I'm surmising the idea was that the longer they stayed in their shelter, the further the radiation levels would drop. Sad thing about it is, either way they are goners.
lothartheterrible 1 year ago
@snidelywhiplash As I know after nuclear explosion you must NOT levae shelter in 48 hours. After that you can be outside for example for 5 or 10 minutes. Next days you can be outside for little more time every day. And after 14 day you can work normal outside the shelter. That i know with sureness
nickpaulie 1 year ago
@nickpaulie potassium iodine pills are a must if you plan on going out in any case, and anything you might scavenge from the ruins is bound to be irradiated... so you're screwed no matter what if you're within a hundred miles of ground zero.
russianbear0027 1 year ago
@snidelywhiplash after 5 days as i know you can go outside for about 10 minutes.And after 14 day you can go outside normally. I read this in "SAS survival manual"
nickpaulie 1 year ago
1:55 scared the CRAP outa me
korgboy98 1 year ago
for today's worries you are looking at, blame one person.that his Albert Einstein
terryjohn 1 year ago
One of the worst ways to die, radiation poisoning.
antidiz 1 year ago
You can't see it, you can't feel it, and you can't taste it, but it's here, it's going through you like an x ray. Right into your cells... How true...
antidiz 1 year ago
"You cant taste it" I heard that you can feel bloody - metallic taste when radiation is high.
livkivi 1 year ago
Oh dear this whole thing is awful. Please have a look for Threads. A BBC production which is slightly more realistic than this pap.
peggymount 1 year ago
@peggymount Normally I just delete comments like this. But you have what appears to be the Fourth Doctor's Time Spiral as your avatar. Which is all sorts of win.
lothartheterrible 1 year ago
@lothartheterrible Yes I must apologise for that. Never comment with beer in your system. Sorry about that, forgive me. I did watch Threads, The War Game and The Day After last night. I just found The Day After, whilst having some quite disturbing and harrowing scenes to be a little...oh help me, I'm struggling for words here. I certainly aint going to get critic of the year award. Glad you like the Dr Who time tunnel. Have a look at the vid. And apologies again for being quite so rude.
peggymount 1 year ago
@peggymount No worries.
lothartheterrible 1 year ago
@peggymount sorry it's not as to bomb blast what about the massives fires that would vaporise everything..like in this film.
if bomb don't get you fires will. it estimated about 10 miles a fire would go from a blast.yet threads was a city.not everybody was vaporised .
terryjohn 1 year ago
@terryjohn Good point. I think in all three the idea of conflagration is made. Perhaps not to the extent it should be in threads.
peggymount 1 year ago
@peggymount well yes' threads was good'' but a bomb blast this big todays Bombs- would have vaporised people in minites.. then remember the bomb does not hit the ground it explodes above it say 1000 feet'. and all electrical stuff would drain-.I hope this wont happen if it does by any in this world say iran. then this world has just made it's mark.,,
then get rid of them.nuclerar power is for energy not killing.
terryjohn 1 year ago
@terryjohn they weren't H-bombs depicted in Sheffield.
irishchrisc 1 year ago
@irishchrisc ok. but makes no differnce .once they go off' bobs not your unckle..
fires and fall out will still fall...and I read that the heat from todays warheads would melt your eyeballs...and break your bones by the explosions.
nobody wins with these evil weapons.
terryjohn 1 year ago
@terryjohn One H bomb would have left no survivors in Sheffield, unless they had a bunker. "Today's warheads?" They have not changed from the early seventies when missiles became more accurate. That enabled them to made the megaton yield smaller. The weapons of the 1950's and 1960's were in fact a lot larger because of the inaccuracy of the missiles.
Fact is, it would be to expensive to recreate digitally a nuclear bomb. Terminator II scene is probably more accurate than this and threads.
irishchrisc 1 year ago
@irishchrisc right' in the film termintor one mistake' fall out from bombs yet they fight the machines after. lol..
yes but the blast on top would break your bones and melt your eyeballs .from up to 15 miles the fires would engulf say 10 miles.if you take cover with thick plated doors the heat would melt them. there his no runnin away from a world in a grave.
if it did happen you might as well kill yourself..((.see film on the beach
terryjohn 1 year ago
@irishchrisc it makes no differnce what bomb. just mass death.I had this discustion 30 years ago. yes 30.and world was very worried then more than today why ! people today are so conplacent in there lives tryin to keep up with there niebours .cars etc. do me a favor worry about the bomb...NOW more than ever.
terryjohn 1 year ago
@terryjohn I know it would be terrible. True people are complacent. if you are not under cover within 10 miles of the blast/heat flash, you are knackered. The largest ever H bomb detonated had a firestorm of a radius of 12 miles. Today's bombs are a lot smaller. Fact is, nobody knows have much fallout there will be, and for how long. It is all guesswork really. Same goes for a "Nuclear winter" I do believe they scare you, by exaggerating the extent of that.
irishchrisc 1 year ago
@irishchrisc a winter well' just a small one' as for the heat id say heat death..but mans life will no doubt end..
ok if a 2 miles comet hits the earth. it would kill people and flood parts of world. but at least man will prevail...but nuke wars fall out radiation.don't think about it.
hope it don't happen.
terryjohn 1 year ago
@terryjohn on complacentcy yes!!!! youth and men and women over 50 the same now.. drive to work got to get that new car before he does my house etc'
you see no one cares about nuke wars. ..what with current events iran N Korea
and mad men.rulers.
terryjohn 1 year ago
@terryjohn heres a test I was talkin to my mum i said see this pen im holding' in say 10 years might be radiactive from nuke war'everything we make we knock down..
as a history thats true my family helped build the chain to the Titanic ..true.i wouldnt think that my family had a hand in it. when they show the chain on the wreck.
terryjohn 1 year ago
@terryjohn the comet would darken the skies, no real day for at least five years. Famine galore, the ecosystem would prevail, it has before, but we wouldn't.
russianbear0027 1 year ago
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terryjohn 1 year ago
The people who where in the Chernobyl nuclear plant were affected to very different extents by the radiation. Some died quickly, some died slowly and one documented had very few affects despite all being in the same control room.
Herstory4321 1 year ago
God, in all these nuclear war movies there's always some stupid girl who fucks everything up. Not to be sexist.
eragon2121 1 year ago
@eragon2121 Oh no; not sexist at all.
lothartheterrible 1 year ago
@eragon2121
So ... you're criticizing the intelligence of the males who write these plots?
ChristophDollis 1 year ago
@ChristophDollis Yes, lol. Like I said, I wasn't being sexist.
eragon2121 1 year ago
@ChristophDollis The wiriters of this film originally planned it to be more realistic. The network (and no doubt the advertisers) deemed many scenes "too disturbing" and required them to be cut. Dumbed-down nuclear war? Oh, please.
siriuslybloo 1 year ago
@eragon2121 In Jericho, they used a salt mine as a fallout shelter for many people, and an old man suffered from a panic attack, which became so bad he had a fatal heart attack. So it's not ALWAYS a girl who freaks out.
Pikman01 1 year ago
Both of them will be dead in a couple of days. 50 rades will kill them and everyone else out in open.
dannyv2468va2 1 year ago
They always show the females as either in denial or acting stupid in some way. This is why males in this society behave so arrogantly and irresponsibly. They are the largest consumers of Hollywood Bull Crap! Of cpirse law breaks down in the midst of chaos. We saw it with the Katrina experiment. The stand down was practice. Good ole boys became their usual murderous selves.
docmechanic 1 year ago
@lothartheterrible LOL "share my spam with" yea that stuff can pretty much be the universal Survival Situation Staple.
HipHopcheerleader 1 year ago
There is no such mercy as " quick death by radiation".
prudenceislandboy 1 year ago
@prudenceislandboy actually, if your lucky, you'll be dead within the hour
gabrielschembri 1 year ago
denise is a dumbfuck who should be shot
all she did was shave 60 years off of her life as soon as she walked outside
Guynumber7 1 year ago
Okay. Let's kill her because she basically killed herself.
She had a breakdown and understandably so. She was the cute girl next door with her future life, husband and children ahead of her...all gone in the blink of an eye. Stuck in a basement that smelled of urine and feces, claustrophobia and panic settling in, its not hard to understand why she would break down and try to grasp a scrap of her former life.
It was a sad scene.
mongoose704 1 year ago 17
@mongoose704 but all she did was KILL HERELF
Guynumber7 1 year ago
Kill her elf?
Poor little fella....
All jocularity aside, I feel very sorry for anyone who ends up in a shelter with you. Anyone willing to brand someone a "dumbfuck who should be shot" for succumbing to the hysteria of total nuclear devastation and the destruction of all things familiar is not someone I'd want to share my Spam with.
lothartheterrible 1 year ago
ok well all she did was kill herself and bring radiation back into my shelter and hurt everyone else. maybe i am too harsh but still...
Guynumber7 1 year ago 2
Call me a cynic, but I'd rather die quickly of radiation poisoning than slowly of leukemia, lymphoma, or any of the myriad other assorted cancers that would no doubt be suffered by those unfortunate enough to survive.
lothartheterrible 1 year ago 2
@lothartheterrible
Lots of people survived Hiroshima and Nagasaki and recovered from what illness they had. Many went on to have healthy children.
I don't disagree about dying quickly rather than slowly, but ... survival would, in many cases, be possible.
Sure THESE guys are in a bad way -- so many ground bursts so close by due to the Minutemen silos as targets.
But...there would be towns and villages where no nukes went off.
We often had hardships and a lower population... and lived.
ChristophDollis 1 year ago
@ChristophDollis Oh, people would indeed survive. Society, however, would not; not as we know it anyhow.
lothartheterrible 1 year ago
@ChristophDollis reminds me of the jericho series...yet thats way too optimisitc a outcome...23 nukes going off at once, most on the east coast right next to eachother, would mean massive fallout...in fact, realisiticaly...most of the east , lower west and south amerixca would be uninhabitable...even if their were survivors, the high radiation, low supplies, no tech and no help...diesease, would also spread rapidly...realisiticaly, the series got it wroung
darthkarr 1 year ago
@ChristophDollis well reasons why many survived japans just 2 and 1 at each place not over 600+ nukes around world USA London..just think. if it happens and it will but matter of when...
I prey it wont'
Quote I leave the 20th century without no Regrets.''
terry
terryjohn 1 year ago
@terryjohn True. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed, but the surrounding areas were not. In a global exchange, victims could not expect help to come from outside any time soon. Also, the bombs dropped on Japan were very small compared to the weapons used in this film. They were airbursts as well, meaning that fallout was minimal. Missile silos would be targeted by groundbursts, which produce massive amounts of fallout, including long-half-life particles like Strontium 90 and Cesium 137.
siriuslybloo 1 year ago
@lothartheterrible Well, lothar, I've done a good bit of research on the subject of nuclear war survival too. While I agree that I wouldn't want to bring a sick person into my shelter, my only real reason would be that , depending on how sick they were, they may be a lost cause and a waste of food, water, medical and other supplies. But this was Farmer Dahlberg's daughter. He's not just going to leave her to die. But general info says that it's not dangerous to treat ill nuke victims.
hrdknox2000 1 year ago
@hrdknox2000 You misunderstood my comment; it was a response to an earlier one. I do not disagree with you.
lothartheterrible 1 year ago
@hrdknox2000
True, but you don't want their clothes inside your shelter.
ChristophDollis 1 year ago
@mongoose704 Indeed, her behavior is understandable, considering. I imagine it's hard to survive a nuclear Armageddon and keep your sanity intact.
Akira625 1 year ago
What happened to the airforce commanders in the plane, they couldn't be dead since the they would be very high in the atmosphere.
moleman9000 1 year ago
The EMP from the 1st bomb detonated high the air would have knocked them out of the sky as the electric pulse would have destroyed the electrical equipment and seized the engines and even if they did not get knocked out of the air, they would have had to land as they would have run out of fuel... and every USAF base would have been fried.
bjboedy 1 year ago
@bjboedy But it surely depends on the altitude. An earlier comment stated that SALT 2 banned high altitude nukes. I'm only worried about this kind of thing since I'm on the Assistant Staff for RAF command.
moleman9000 1 year ago
Moleman, I agree with you. But if I were fighting this, I would detonate a nuclear warhead high in the atomsphere as to ensure that I can wipe out any strategic military command. But if it ever got this bad, would it really matter? Life as we know it would end.
bjboedy 1 year ago
i guess the soviets did give a fuck about salt because the did detonate one
Guynumber7 1 year ago
@bjboedy Not if they were a good 10,000 Feet above
WaitWhatWasThat1 1 year ago
@WaitWhatWasThat1 Castle Bravo, a 20 or so megaton nuke (about 4 times as big as your typical warhead), had a mushroom cloud up in the stratosphere. It's pretty much one-way for everything except the bombers who didn't get shot down by missiles.
eddievhfan1984 1 year ago
gr8 sample at 1.30....no...rave on please!!
JohnnyScratch1970 2 years ago
4:03 Why are there birds tweeting, should'nt they have died by this point ???
jonnbag06 2 years ago 2
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the greatest thing about this movie is that it ends without anything starting to get any better.
please god someone invent a new way to do this without the auto caption bullshit.
mongoose100989 2 years ago
He did invent a way. It's called "Turn Off Annotations", you twit.
lothartheterrible 2 years ago
watching this full blast with skullcandy G.I. headphones was a bad idea at 1:51 omg i jumped ten feet.
wyattbbb 2 years ago 7
@wyattbbb That scene was cut from the film when ti originally aired; it was deemed "too traumatic".
lothartheterrible 1 year ago
@lothartheterrible Hi wait till you see it in real life.
kc5cxu 1 year ago
@kc5cxu What, someone sitting screaming after waking from a nightmare? I did it myself, November 3, 2004 when I realized we'd re-elected George W. Bush. I haven't been right in the head since.
lothartheterrible 1 year ago 12
@lothartheterrible win.
HavoKx16 1 year ago
@lothartheterrible You must have more afraid after we elected Obamma!!!!!!!!!
jimmykola 1 year ago
@jimmykola Wow. Just...wow.....
lothartheterrible 1 year ago
@jimmykola Agreed, and I actually voted for Obama. This is worse than a nightmare because we are awake.
jimmykola 1 year ago
@jimmykola Dude; I wasn't agreeing with you. I was taken aback by the fact that you could not manage to spell "Obama" correctly. I am of the school of thought that *all* politicians are full of shit; Obama's as big a liar as Dubya. Big difference is, Obama didn't drag us into an unnecessary war resulting in the deaths of thousands of servicemen (and don't say anything about 9/11, either; Iraq had jack shit to do with 9/11).
lothartheterrible 1 year ago
@lothartheterrible Dude relax, don’t be taken aback, it was just a typo. All politicians are the same. Obama (see, I spelled it right) has just made the problems worse. I guess I have buyer’s remorse. As far as 911, and Iraq, that's the reason I voted for Obama. Stay well, jimmykola.
kimmykola 1 year ago
@lothartheterrible Agreed. 1000%. As long as Americans keep bellyaching about which President has fucked us the most, we will continue to miss a very large (and obvious to me) point. Doesn't matter who occupies that big comfy chair in the oval office; has been YEARS since we had a President in office not following someone else's hidden agenda. And none of those past agenda's (nor the current one) has the American people's best interest at heart.
HippyWitchGal 10 months ago
@HippyWitchGal the hidden agenda is corporations. We are a corporate nation not a democracy or a republic.
It is all over.
chetzmom 9 months ago
@wyattbbb
Hahaha, those are $5 A-OPEN headphones.
HWGuyEG 1 year ago
there all exposed. some faster than others.
grips187 2 years ago
3:54 Denise was stupid!! She exposed herself from the radioactive fallout in their surroundings and same with the guy with her.
boynewwave 2 years ago 4
Just wait 'til she attends that church service later on in the movie!
zekepig 2 years ago
it doesnt matter if she went outside....being 10 feet underground wont stop the radiation from killing you....might as well be 5 miles or more underground just to be safe.
wyattbbb 2 years ago
If you noticed later on the film. her parents and younger sister was not sick with radiation. of course Danny is blind totally and soon to be sick. which means Denise and Stephen were poisoned by radiation from outside. the shelter was still considered safe for refuge.
boynewwave 2 years ago
I guess some people can withstand the radiation sickness better than others , there was a fire brigade captain at the Chernobyl fire that lived without any side effects after most of his company died
123lard123 2 years ago
@boynewwave I've read about the after effects of catching a partial glimpse or full glimpse a nuke. First if the flash isn't focused thru the lens of the eye then it would only lead to temporary blindness like the white you see from a camera flash now in danny's case I'm sure that the flash was focused thru the lens and that would leave scarring on the retina but the scarring would be for how long the flash was focused on his retina.
sonyhandycam520 11 months ago
@sonyhandycam520 for the most part you look into the eye of the blast, theres more than a good chance your eyes would be running down your face like tears. And you would suffer very much. It is underplayed on here trust me.
wowme110 10 months ago
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boynewwave 2 years ago
is the dog dead?
DarkFedExNinja 2 years ago
omg, it says: An error occurred, please try
again later.
i already restarted the video for 7 times!
jerrythedutchmapler 2 years ago
wouldn't the food that the black guy gave to the white guy be radioactive?(Sorry, I don't know their names)
londononion 2 years ago
Probably, but they might not know.
Poptartwizard34 2 years ago
Oh my God... 1:51
PiBoy100 2 years ago
This particular segment makes me think of the song
Chop Suey - System of a Down.
umahuma4 2 years ago
@umahuma4 The part where are the people are dying when the nukes are going off, reminds me of "Set the World Afire" by Megadeth.
InAGaddaDaVida29 1 year ago
Yeah..at 1:51.. that scared the fuck outta me..lol
fathernature4U 2 years ago
Cullum had the perfect opportunity to lock his pain in the ass daughter AND Steve Gutenberg out of the storm cellar......
Joemakespatties 2 years ago 2
1:51 Am I the only one startled by that? O.o
Delta4845 2 years ago 4
No, that made me spit the coke i was drinking all over the screen
umahuma4 2 years ago
Why are there birds chirping outside the farm?
sah15ft 2 years ago 2
Despite numerous attempts by the director to silence them, the pesky critters simply refused to play along.
lothartheterrible 2 years ago
Your Genetics make-up would make some difference, as would where you live, and where the winds blow.
locheelad2 2 years ago
in 5days the rads wouldnt clear so people comeing out of there shelters was a bad mistake they were litleraly killing them selfs becuase the rads are to strong so health issues would develop fast
warth4546 2 years ago
thats why you carry extra Rad-Away with you.
SampledMuffin 2 years ago 2
"There ain't no Sedalia. No Green Ridge, no Windsor, no nothin'"
Nicecatholicgirl 2 years ago
like other Governments of the world they wouldn't give a damn about the ppl save there own ass and damn the ppl
adentheblack 2 years ago
I see the lesson in this one.
When in a shelter, tie up and gag all the drama people.
RmanDC 2 years ago 21
the radiation level must be at 50 rads if it was termanal
kazer4 2 years ago 3
I see there is a misunderstanding about EMP - it destroys specifically semiconductors. When in the 60-s the US did a lot of high-altitude atomic testing, it knocked out accidently many of its own satellites (and possibly some Russians), not realizing that solar-panels on the satellites are just large semiconductors. Thats why in the SALT treaties high altitude testing was specifically banned.
NorceCodine 2 years ago 2
I wonder if a nuclear exchange was likely to happen, would the government issue the death pill to its citizens?
SpermCannon 2 years ago
i doubt it.
hellfreak007 2 years ago
Certainly not. It would make a way too cynical impression. Like "we do want to nuke each other, but for you others not to suffer from it too much, we'll give you a suicide pill. " But I think some university in the USA did make such a project in 1985, producing huge amounts of suicide pills for this case.
NotOnlySelfLover 2 years ago
And besides, it would mean something no government would ever do - to admit there is no f*cking hope at all. A government is supposed to be responsible for creating the country's future and always providing some hope, even if it's one in a billion. But issuing suicide pills would be like admitting being about to just coldly murder the world. Even Hitler would have had a hard time being so honest even to himself about just murdering the whole world.
NotOnlySelfLover 2 years ago
Too expensive.
They would die anyway, so why waste rescources?
schusterlehrling 2 years ago
Like what the Aussi government did in that nuclear war novel 'On The Beach?'
Thelistener60 2 years ago
scary stuff...your posting is appreciated :)
joshman783 2 years ago
Thanks for putting this up. They should be showing both this and Threads on as many channels as possible around the world. Make people think. The post-Cold War generation has no idea! Love the comments, too. Good stuff,
wintali 2 years ago 2
1:49 what a great "jump" scene. I bet that scared the s*** out of folks.
sirmercutio99 2 years ago
I think this version of "The Day After" is the one released on DVD by MGM in 2004. The same version that was released theatrically overseas. It added a few moments of footage like the child screaming. But it also dropped some lines of dialogue throughout the film and moved some of the scenes around. I actually prefer the 1983 TV version released on home video by Summit. It seems to have a better flow to it. Anyone else have an opinion on these different versions of "The Day After"?
Jacktwo04 2 years ago
The radiation suit that I own was used by the soviet liquidators to clean the most contaminated parts of Chernobyl,and in comparison as the bomb gives off it's rads they are pretty weak as they disperse over a massive area very quickly.There is still radiation in Chernobyl,but the effects of a nuclear strike would not last too long,and not everybody owns a radiation proof jumpsuit/gas mask,but to cover the face and the body with anything like a balaclava and a thick leather jacket will help.
gearsofwar357 2 years ago
There is no such thing as a radiation proof suit. The correct terminology is radiation-resistant.
DVDluvr123 2 years ago
Cockroaches are not much better surviving radiation than humans, you need simpler digestive tracks and genetic structures.
shizaquife 2 years ago
It is very humbling dont you think i mean my dad said that this sould be required watching for teenagers from 13-18 so that they realise that there is more to life than the latest cell phone or the new look. When you think about it people are so stupid like the farm girl. Look its all over everthing is just fine egggggggggggggggg wrong answer dumb ass. GO go get killed by the radiation we will stay in the basement and be fine till the radiation goes away.
KeiserWelhelm2 2 years ago 2
@KeiserWilhelm2: I think all of our military and political leaders should be forced to watch this movie and similar every month for a couple years before they take office, or whatever it takes to realize a nuclear war would end badly for all of us.
SanFran90 2 years ago
Nuclear war = forget it. I would not want to live in the world remaining. Too cold to grow crops, everything would be mutated. Most people would be ill days after being irradiated. Radiation sickness is not pretty.
swinggalwa 2 years ago 3
KI03 potassium pills,a soviet liquidator jumpsuit and an NBC gas mask with NBC filters,a basement and a bit of luck you'll be fine,apparently the pills counter radiation ingestion so that you could take off the mask to eat and drink.
gearsofwar357 2 years ago
The only thing KI does is block the thyroid gland from uptaking radioactive iodine 131, and even then, it's only useful in young children and teens. The good news is the radioactivity from a detonation decreases to safe levels after about 3 weeks. Life wouldn't be pretty, but it would continue on...
kiashamed 2 years ago
If there ever is a nuclear war, god I hope I'm vaporized at detonation! Would not want to live in a virtual hell on earth.
wizeman5974 2 years ago 3
Fall out radiation is not very penetrating, and a medium thickness of land (2-3 m)could protect a person virtually for ever. And We can read that radioactivity decreases quite rapidly, becoming one tenth after seven days, and one hundredth after 49 days
anisocoro 2 years ago
when that kid started screaming scared the sh@t otta me
snooch1975 2 years ago
yeah. 1:52 scared the living f*&k out of me.
drawswithcrayon 2 years ago
everyone is dead, they just might know it yet
chhmcom 2 years ago
I like the dust effects
CarpenterStudios 2 years ago
The basement shelter that they are in cant have a protection factor more then 10 prob less,they would of received a lethal dose on the first day when rates were still very high outside the shelter.if inital rates were 1000-3000 rem per hour the first day they would of received 100-300 per hour the first day.450 rems is a lethal dose
ShawnGiella 2 years ago 2
yes you are correct. This is a dramatization though, but it is not fiction as such. In order to complete the movie, the producers decided not to kill everyone off on the first reel.
Real life wouldn't be so caring of course.
It's good you know your stuff. Just remember when the movie was made.
kadathdreamques 2 years ago 4
ya, if you are in the blast area, chances of survival over the long term are pretty much nill. Either the blast gets you or radiation will get you months to years down the line.
Aelov 2 years ago
If I understand correctly, the Dahlberg farm was also well away from the area of concentrated detonations. Radioactive fall-out would reach them of course, but I should think it would be reduced somewhat. Even more so with the passage of time.
Kenn1965 2 years ago
Your talking fantasy because fallout can be blown over hundreds miles and still remain highly radioactive. And anyway what about nuclear power station if you hit one them with a nuke, there's radiation there that has a half life of thousands years.
Thelistener60 2 years ago
Yes. Consider hundreds of warheads detonating within an hour or so. Moscow and the entire East coast of the US would see hundreds of warheads. That many close together like the Russian Satin missiles with up to 10 BIG warheads in each missile would irradiate the entire upper atmosphere.FORGEDDABOUTIT!!
jrpaint62 2 years ago
If you hit a nuclear power station, anything within about 15 to 20 miles of there is uninhabitable for about 700 to 1000 years. Also the radiation from that plant will continue to blow for that amount of 700 to 1000 years.
umahuma4 2 years ago 2
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Radiation decays 10 fold for every 7 fold increase in time..assuming 3000rems per hour after the first hour(and thats prob way to high)after 5 days the rates would of been 30 rems and hour.lethal dose would be received in 18 hours not 10 mins
ShawnGiella 2 years ago 2
that chick rolling the dust with Steve running after her? fucked.
watkinsonatdal 2 years ago
Horrific!!
rob909e 2 years ago 2
at 1 : 50 cockroaches, fallout will affect them, but with a short life span, it will be same of surviving, but the blast itself will kill them if in the way.
DerektheDuctTape 2 years ago
so the Black Army dudes wifes dead?
hezbollah95818 2 years ago
Yes, her and the child were killed in the initial attack.
lothartheterrible 2 years ago
The scene where they are runnig outside is of course utterly unrealistic: they would have immediately started suffering from severe radiation poisoning (especially if you look at the dust on the ground...). But then again, it still is a (very educational) movie.
Keizerdraak 2 years ago 4
They would have all had severe radiation poisoning inside as well. Five days they would all be very very sick, if not dead.
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madhammu 2 years ago
Most of the brainy guys that would get technology production going again are now dead or dying the ok ones are out looking for food for their families or tying to get far from the developed areas.
NielsShoe 2 years ago
The USA would not rebuid for a very long time. Theirs no oil production and no production of chemicals and steel and plastics all the farming machines has their circuits fried from EMP or they will eventaully run out of fuel. The only way they can rebuild is to start with steam and coal again the microchips are all fried from EMP now and theirs no microchip factories able to function.
NielsShoe 2 years ago 2
Humans lived for thousands of years without sophisticated technology, i think we'd get allong well enough for the circumstances over the long haul. Makes me wanna play fallout 3 agian. lol
Spawn40k 2 years ago