I can pin point your problem right here the Conveyor Belt isn't going Faster or as fast as the plane itself as you can see that conveyor belt your using is going extremely slow
besides that, even when (hypothetically) you'll get it right, don't expect the plane to take off because two equal forces cancel each other and therefore, there will be no airspeed on the fuselage, therefore no lift. like hyrrokinfamily said. do you expect your plane to take off with 1 kt airspeed? think about it. if that conveyor shit was working airports would use 100 m long conveyor belts instead of runways. DOH.
idiot. you must calculate the exponential acceleration on both plane and belt. the belt needs to accelerate gradually with the plane. that means math. that is why this myth is so hard to reproduce. that's the result of the battle between scientists striving to create better idiot-proof solutions, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. and here's a proof why so far, the universe is winning.
Match the speed of plane with the belt (as the puzzle says), otherwise you're just making the planes speed a little more, a mismatch. Planes speed through air is then zero. Stays in place. According to the puzzle I can control the conveyor with no limit to it's speed. Any plane will have a thrust limit. Plane is not on floats, skids, or flat plate, it's on a wheel. It has to move forward to Lift, relative to the observer, not the belt. Conveyor can negate forward movement at any thrust of plane.
@btankful But the conveyor just makes the wheels turn, it doesn't pull on the plane itself. The propellor moves the plane forward, not the wheels. The wheels and the conveyor are irrelevant.
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velocity of treadmill=velocity of plane+velocity of treadmill
This is because the ground speed of the plane is defined by the road bellow it. Going at the same speed as the treadmill results in no movement through the air. The plane simply can't go any faster, because if it does so, the treadmill will instantly increase in speed until the wheels burn right off. Technically, the speed of the treadmill would be infinity, which is clearly not even possible, so a finite acceleration is assumed.
The thing is... a treadmill can never hold an airplane stationary like it would do to a car or a human, because planes do not push off the ground to move, they push or pull on the air.
Then why doesn't a plane move from stationary when it's brakes are on?
Obviously there is momentum gained from the air, but there is also friction involved with the ground. If the friction is not overcome, the plane won't start moving relative to the air.
Of course, if the air is directed over the wing it might create enough lift to remove the wheels from the ground even if the brakes are on.
knoxjeff, an airplane could takeoff even if the wheels brakes were on, they would just screech and smoke all the way down the runway. That is why airplanes are different than cars, and that is why a treadmill would have no effect on any airplane trying to take off.
Yeah, but the plane's take off speed is related to the air, and not the ground.
That's why airplanes always take off and land facing the wind. Let's say your landing speed (airspeed) is 110mph, and you have a 10mph headwind. If you land facing the wind, you will land at an airspeed of 110 mph, but a ground speed of 100mph.
The plane's engines depend on air to move the airplane. So, no matter what speed the ground is, all the airplane needs to do is throttle up and wait for RELATIVE take off speed, which is it's speed in the AIR, not the ground.
The conveyor belt cannot exercise any action to a free spinning wheel, like the ones on the landing gear of an airplane, if there's no forcee on the wheels, the airplane will move... Is not a problem of speed, imagine a fly flying at 1 mph crashing to a Jumbo Jet at 1 mph, ¿will the jumbo jet stop because of the speeds?, no matter how fast the conveyor belt spins, it won't stop the plane either.
Exactly, I see the plane moving forward and after, even I see it accelerates fast enough, I would take off if it had enough runway left -and keep accelerating-...
the fact that it goes as fast as it did on the conveyor shows that the conveyor did not effect the planes speed, due to the free-spinning wheels neutralizing the friction.
That is one slow conveyor.
TheEodtch 3 months ago
I can pin point your problem right here the Conveyor Belt isn't going Faster or as fast as the plane itself as you can see that conveyor belt your using is going extremely slow
OGICHI21 8 months ago
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yaserzoom 9 months ago
besides that, even when (hypothetically) you'll get it right, don't expect the plane to take off because two equal forces cancel each other and therefore, there will be no airspeed on the fuselage, therefore no lift. like hyrrokinfamily said. do you expect your plane to take off with 1 kt airspeed? think about it. if that conveyor shit was working airports would use 100 m long conveyor belts instead of runways. DOH.
innersilencedotcom 10 months ago
@innersilencedotcom You fool, the plane WILL take off if he goes fast enough. The plane is moved by its propellor, NOT THE WHEELS. Think about it!
Stillwater900 4 months ago
idiot. you must calculate the exponential acceleration on both plane and belt. the belt needs to accelerate gradually with the plane. that means math. that is why this myth is so hard to reproduce. that's the result of the battle between scientists striving to create better idiot-proof solutions, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. and here's a proof why so far, the universe is winning.
innersilencedotcom 10 months ago
LOL do you think you're plane will take with a 1knt speed ? Bad conveyor
hyrrokinfamily 11 months ago
the thing is that the speed has to be constant
TheFryingpanofdoom 1 year ago
This is so GAYYYY
kavialam 1 year ago
что это за бред? выб еше таракана туда посадили.
yaotzinv 1 year ago
Match the speed of plane with the belt (as the puzzle says), otherwise you're just making the planes speed a little more, a mismatch. Planes speed through air is then zero. Stays in place. According to the puzzle I can control the conveyor with no limit to it's speed. Any plane will have a thrust limit. Plane is not on floats, skids, or flat plate, it's on a wheel. It has to move forward to Lift, relative to the observer, not the belt. Conveyor can negate forward movement at any thrust of plane.
btankful 1 year ago
@btankful But the conveyor just makes the wheels turn, it doesn't pull on the plane itself. The propellor moves the plane forward, not the wheels. The wheels and the conveyor are irrelevant.
Submariner75 1 year ago
@btankful How can a conveyor belt negate the forward movement of a plane?
ChakatBlackstar 11 months ago
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so simple
how is anyone surprised?
wheels move freely on planes
the propeller is what moved it
the propeller is still pulling air under the wings
causeing lift
to all of you fucking tards who think the wheels do all the moveing they dont
AND WTF IS THIS GAY SHIT?! LOL
Digiscat 1 year ago
I love trashing dumbasses that say the plane won't take off, but even i'm not sure what this video is supposed to prove.
jimboinlimbo 2 years ago
like jimboinlimbo u guys are dumbasses planes take of by the air under the wings not by the wheels spinning
breed0328 2 years ago
It's too bad the dumbass is you.
Fenizrael 2 years ago
You are an idiot...
Alkoholtest 2 years ago
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velocity of treadmill=velocity of plane+velocity of treadmill
This is because the ground speed of the plane is defined by the road bellow it. Going at the same speed as the treadmill results in no movement through the air. The plane simply can't go any faster, because if it does so, the treadmill will instantly increase in speed until the wheels burn right off. Technically, the speed of the treadmill would be infinity, which is clearly not even possible, so a finite acceleration is assumed.
SamsLembas 3 years ago
SamsLembas, what if the speeds are relative to the air and trees around it, not the wheels? Then it all makes sense.
mitchio83 3 years ago
neodocneodoc has a much better video. Watch his instead.
259 3 years ago
the belt is too slow
y512516 3 years ago
The thing is... a treadmill can never hold an airplane stationary like it would do to a car or a human, because planes do not push off the ground to move, they push or pull on the air.
mitchio83 4 years ago
yes, and it seem everyone else is a comlete moron not knowing this.
xJasenx 4 years ago 3
Then why doesn't a plane move from stationary when it's brakes are on?
Obviously there is momentum gained from the air, but there is also friction involved with the ground. If the friction is not overcome, the plane won't start moving relative to the air.
Of course, if the air is directed over the wing it might create enough lift to remove the wheels from the ground even if the brakes are on.
knoxjeff 4 years ago
knoxjeff, an airplane could takeoff even if the wheels brakes were on, they would just screech and smoke all the way down the runway. That is why airplanes are different than cars, and that is why a treadmill would have no effect on any airplane trying to take off.
mitchio83 3 years ago
@mitchio83
airplanes can take off with the brake on. LOL So I guess we don't need runways.
taledarkside 1 year ago
@taledarkside You would still need a runway to take off with brakes on. Didn't you learn anything in aviation academy (lol)?
mitchio83 1 year ago
@mitchio83
Plane isn't going to move with its brakes on.
taledarkside 1 year ago
You are a Dumb Knoxejeff
alincrys 2 years ago
guys the your experinment is all wrong the plane must be propelled forward by an engine, and not a motor on the wheels
shgshgshgshg 4 years ago
The plane used in the video was an Air Hog Room Raider. It has a propeller. I attached the wheels for the experiment.
BattleShipRon 4 years ago
were the wheels moving the plane forward?
shgshgshgshg 4 years ago
The propeller was moving the plane, not the wheels.
mitchio83 4 years ago
ahhhh ok nvm than
shgshgshgshg 4 years ago
I think many of us just forgot that airplanes go forward using the propellor and not the wheels...
DaeOh 4 years ago
Yeah, but the plane's take off speed is related to the air, and not the ground.
That's why airplanes always take off and land facing the wind. Let's say your landing speed (airspeed) is 110mph, and you have a 10mph headwind. If you land facing the wind, you will land at an airspeed of 110 mph, but a ground speed of 100mph.
kirrevargashotmailco 4 years ago 2
The plane's engines depend on air to move the airplane. So, no matter what speed the ground is, all the airplane needs to do is throttle up and wait for RELATIVE take off speed, which is it's speed in the AIR, not the ground.
kirrevargashotmailco 4 years ago
The velocity of the plane = the velocity of the treadmill, or the velocity of the wheels = the velocity of the treadmill? Make up your mind.
unklejman 4 years ago
The conveyor belt cannot exercise any action to a free spinning wheel, like the ones on the landing gear of an airplane, if there's no forcee on the wheels, the airplane will move... Is not a problem of speed, imagine a fly flying at 1 mph crashing to a Jumbo Jet at 1 mph, ¿will the jumbo jet stop because of the speeds?, no matter how fast the conveyor belt spins, it won't stop the plane either.
cougar222 4 years ago 2
Exactly, I see the plane moving forward and after, even I see it accelerates fast enough, I would take off if it had enough runway left -and keep accelerating-...
cougar222 4 years ago
the fact that it goes as fast as it did on the conveyor shows that the conveyor did not effect the planes speed, due to the free-spinning wheels neutralizing the friction.
puppetmasterjjk 4 years ago
Does not solve anything! No turbines, no propellers == NO PLANE
zerobang 5 years ago
There is a propeller, ass hat.
Edunk 5 years ago 4
404 plane not found.
take a real plane rc
Ruede2000 5 years ago
Ahaha, awesome video, BSR!
LiberatorEbola 5 years ago
I guess that solves it. It wont take off, ;)
aaron4au 5 years ago