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  • sir you are sadly mistaken. Don't ever think just because a woman is independent that she won't put a man on child support if he is not taking care of his child. Independence don't have nothing to do with child support, it's mainly about two adult taking care of their responsibilities. When one (the man) doesn't take care of his child then he needs to be put on child support. plain and simple.

  • the projects was invented to destroy the family

  • You're talking about things I don't believe in such as abortion or adoption as a means of absolving men of the responsibility of the choices they also made. There is nothing I wouldn't do for my son including supporting him on my own if I have to. Why should I if I don't have to? I'm a very passionate woman. I tend to get worked up very easily on things that I care about. I mean you no harm. Please accept my apologies.

  • You did attack me. I'm part of the system that relies in child support from a man who would otherwise not support my son if he wasn't forced to. I'm taking your views personally because it just amazes me that a man as well-spoken and intelligent as yourself would have these depraved and barbaric views. I didn't put my son's father on child support to get rich. I wanted him to do his fair share. I wanted my son to have a father. Child support was my last resort.

  • The number of men against child support can grow as much as it will, but that doesn't mean the obligation will change. Women and men as a whole need to make better choices when it comes to sex, and find mates with values similar to their own. This is why we child support in the first place. It is a direct result of people not making better choices in mates.

  • @georgelopezblows...Again, you're very wrong. A baby can not be made without spem!

  • You know what? I'm not gonna even dignify your responses any longer. All I'm doing is encouraging you by giving you a voice. You're an absolutely disgusting individual, and the fact that you are childless doesn't surprise me at all. No woman in her right or wrong mind would ever want anything to do with a man such as yourself. Let alone create a child with you. Good luck to you.

  • Do men not choose to have the sex that creates the children? Not to be too personal, but my husband and I never use condoms. Nor am I on birth control. That is a tacit understanding between the two of us that we understand that a child could result. This should be the way each sexually active couple thinks whether they use contraception or not.

  • Having a baby is not a mistake. Some of men we make them with, however, is another story.

    Please do not refer to me as "toots."

  • "I know it will probably never happen, but everyday more and more men are opening their eyes. Men will find ways to deal. If that means more cases of suicide or evasion, so be it."

    On this we agree. Men do evade child support, but it almost always catches up to them.

  • Seriously, dude? You're only a star in your own mind. You need to get over yourself, It's not that serious. The one time I DID take a jab at you, I was woman enough to apologize for it. I'm not gonna keep defending myself to that end. You need to be less thin skinned.

    I don't think my views are misguided at all. Yours, however, are extremely selfish.

  • Good luck on your collective struggle. Those men did it to themselves.

  • So, in addition to more fatherless children, welfare cases should escalate because men should be able to be selfish. Essentially, everything you've said is extremely selfish.

    Again, take your ideals to your local congressmen. It'll be a cold day in hell before a resolution like that is ever signed into law. And you know it.

  • If I'm going to act like a woman, the way I act will not be controlled by the likes of a man like you. I'll be who I am. It's gotten me this far. I'll give you as much respect as a man like you deserves. I meant you no harm with that last comment. You're the one who caught feelings, not me.

    I can take anything you dish out if being an internet bully is the extent of your intelligence.

  • That he's already had all the kids he could afford. Do you know what they judge told him? "Not really because you're about to have another. Don't want more kids? Stop having the sex that creates them."

    A man does not carry a child, therefore he has no right to tell a woman when and where to create one.

  • The woman is responsible for all of that. However, you don't have have to be a father in order to pay child support. I went to court with a friend whose boyfriend left her as soon as she ended up pregnant. She took him to court for support, and he blatantly told the judge that he wanted nothing to do with the child. Cont...

  • Maybe you should take your views on forced child support to your local state legislature. See how well they go over. Otherwise, get over it. Regardless of whether a man wants to be a father or not, he is still legally obligated to support that child. I know it sucks for you, but it is what it is.

  • You don't like women who think for themselves much, do you?

    Since we're on the subject, I really don't appreciate the patronizing tone which you use when referring to me as "sweetie". You've no idea whether I'm sweet or not. I'm not dimwitted, nor do I need talking down to. If you want me to respect you as a man, try respecting me as a woman.

  • It doesn't really matter how you or any other man feels about being obligated in paying child support. Luckily, the law doesn't see things they way you do. You don't want kids? Wear a condom, have a vasectomy, or don't have sex. Find a woman who hold the same values and morals as you do. It's that simple.

  • I'm simply saying that as a man you should own up to your responsibility. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

  • @georgelopezblows waiver what mutherfucker, wake up and smell the bacon

  • Cont...If I even thought that he'd ask me to give up or kill a child that he and I created together, I would've never married him. And, I'd divorce him if he ever did. I'm not on this post to tell men that they should do whatever a woman tells them to do. Cont...

    

  • Cont...However, I've a mind of my own, and I stand up for what I believe in, even if that means going against his word at times. That's one of the reasons he loves me. I'm my own woman, not a Stepford Wife. He didn't marry me to be submissive. He married me to be his partner, not his doormat. Cont...

  • @honeybflyy21282 yes I agree, yet who are we to judge, its a formulation of our own perceptions of things...

  • @ifucantlarffukofflol I'm not sure what you agree with?

  • I'm really floored by your arrogance. So, in order to please her man a woman should either kill or give up her child if her man doesn't want it? That's being a real woman?! Are you kidding me? Listen, I love my husband with all of my heart. I listen to him, and I take his directives and advice very seriously. Cont..

  • First of all, I was not shaming you personally. I was speaking about men who feel as you do in general. I'm sorry that that statement struck a nerve.

  • Both parents must sign away their parental rights before a child is given up for adoption. The only thing a woman can do is get an abortion without the father's consent. So, that's where you're wrong. Also, I'm not saying that men should do whatever women want. You don't want to be a father? Don't. But, as long as you contributed to the making of that child, you should help support it. Whether it was an accident or not. If you're man enough to lay down and get off, be man enough to provide.

  • Perhaps, men should think about these things before they have sex. You have the right to self-determination, do you not? If you don't want the child, why should you have an equal say in what she chooses to do after the fact? Being a father and paying child support are two different things. I think you have more of a problem with men being financially obligated to a child they don't want than them not being fathers. The law can't make you be a father, but it can make you provide.

  • I don't believe I made an ad hominem statement. Please read reread your responses to my comments. I believe that based on the evidence of what you're saying, I'm just calling it like I see it. Maybe I was a bit harsh so I'll apologize. However, I"m certainly glad that you and I aren't having a sexual relationship. You'd hate my ass.

  • According to your scenario, a man should be able to fuck a woman's brains out, impregnate her as a result, and then tell her that he doesn't want the baby? You're also saying that the deciding factor in keeping a child should be if the man wants the child as well? That's absurd! Make no mistake. I would've had my son whether he wanted me to have him or not.

  • And that's what I have a problem with. If you choose to have sex, then you choose to become a parent. Have you considered that someone women don't want to give up or abort their pregnancy? It's about owning up to your mistake! Child support and parenthood are two totally different things. If you feel like you don't want to be a father, the very least you can do is provide support.

  • Also, if he had told me that he wanted nothing to do with our child, I would've respected his decision. He would've had to find a way to live with himself in the end. I've been doing what I gotta do, and I will continue. Hell, he's in the arrears now!

    I really hope you aren't as barbaric as you sound. If so, my condolences to the woman who birthed you. You must make her very proud.

  • He doesn't post retarded ass comments on youtube complaining about it. You don't wanna support a child? Get a fucking vasectomy. Don't have sex. Wear condoms. Otherwise, boo fucking hoo! Don't have sex with random fucking women, and then complain when the law asks you to do what you should willingly do on you're own. You had no problem committing yourself to the five minutes of pleasure you found in that woman's body. And, since you did, you will now pay for the choice you made as well.

  • So, to answer your decidedly stupid question, he didn't force me to have our son, HE ASKED ME TO, but made it clear that he would stand by whatever decision I made. Unlike you, he choose to be a man about his mistake. He realized that it takes TWO to make a baby, so it SHOULD take two to care for him. That's what a REAL man does. He owns up to the part he played in the situation.

  • Hardly anything to write home about. Now, we were together though all of this. He cheated on me, and I left him when my son was 3. I never filed anything with the courts for child support. I figured I give him a chance to do it on his own. He never did. I went to court to establish CUSTODY and VISITATION only. In the state that I live in, you must file for all three at the same time. So, there was no "forced" anything.

  • Don't ASSUme. You know what they say when you do...

    Bu since you asked, I'll tell you. I'd been with my son's father for 4 1/2 years. When I found out I was pregnant, he was more excited than I was. Our son wasn't planned, but he wanted that baby. The only problem was he was a dog and he didn't want to work. Okay, no problem. Being the independent woman I am, I supported my son ON MY OWN for the first 6 years of his life. His dad had sporadic employment here and there.

  • @georgelopezblows No one forces a man to have sex with a woman. When he does, he is essentially becoming one with her, making him apart of her body. Therefore, he IS legally obligated to any child of that union. It sucks. But, suck it up, and be a fucking man! The child support system wouldn't be the way it is if men would do the right thing and support the child. It's not about the adults at that point. It's about the child that didn't ask to be born. You should be ashamed of yourself.

  • @georgelopezblows It's really this simple: DON'T HAVE SEX! Whether you were a condom or not, a baby is almost always a possibility. It's not like you men don't know that. Man + Woman= BABY!!! Men should not have the right to dictate what a woman does with her body. You came from a woman. I'm quite sure you wouldn't want some dude telling her what she should do with HER body.

  • If you're man enough to have sex, you're man enough to pay child support whether you want to or not. Being in the child' life is a moral decision that you have to live with. Hopefully, whatever decision you make enables you to face the mirror.

  • Further, I'd like to know what planet you live on where women make babies on their own. I live on Earth, where SPERM is needed to make a baby. If men don't want to pay child support, maybe they should stop having sex. Perish the thought, huh? Look, the bottom line is no one is forcing these men into the act that can result in the creation of another human life. Own up to your responsibilities as a man, and you won't have to worry about "forced child support". Smdh!

  • @georgelopezblows That has got to be the stupidest shit I've ever heard. The seed is an essential part of making a baby. Additionally, it goes both ways. If she is woman enough to own up her responsibility, a man should be man enough to do the same

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  • Also, I haven't heard you say one negative thing about the men who aren't forced to have sex with these women. So, you mean to tell me that because my son's father is on child support ($172 a month to be exact, which is the lowest possible payment he is allowed to make, mind you.) that I'm a "hoodrat, baby mama"?! That's the biggest load of crap I ever heard.

  • Additionally, if a man chooses not to be a father to his child, that is his right. However, that child still has the right to be support by BOTH parents. She did not make that child on her own, and so she shouldn't have to support that child on her own. Also, in your video, you failed to mention that a lot of black men on child support pay a paltry sum, or don't pay even pay at all!

  • Why is it that I only see black men making videos on youtube complaining about child support ? First of all, you're talking about 2 completely different topics that are not mutually related. Like it or not, child support is an obligation whether you want to be a parent to your child or not. Whether the woman is a hoodrat or not, no one told you to run up in her raw, and the child of that union did not ask to be born.

  • Independent respectable woman translation= she'll support your lazy ass,listen to you talk your shit,and she'll buy you a $600 video game system!

  • @MsCrazykats Thank you

  • Oh gimme a break! If you don't children then get a vasectomy! Second, a woman is a hoodrat if she expects you to help support a child that you fathered?? Any woman worth her salt wouldn't be seen in public with somebody like you. Third if you want kids that's perfectly fine.But don't dare ask for visitation,that child doesn't get your last name,and don't you get any ideas about running over to h&r block during tax time trying to claim that child so your punkass can get some extra cash!

  • LOSER - you're "man" enough to put your dick in her but you can't be "man" enough to help support the possible consequences of what, 15 minutes of fame???!! Men w/ this attitude should be castrated!!

  • So, .. it's a woman's fault she slept with a man-whore, thus, she should pay for it? I believe the man-whore also should have some blame for, ya know, sleeping with the woman. There is shared responsibility for creating a child since it takes two to tango. All the man has to do is pay some money over. The woman has to work, raise the child, and pay money over ... all at the same time. You have to pay welfare? Good. You got off easy.

  • ONCE UPON A TIME AGO THEY ALSO SAID

    WHAT THEY WERE DOING TO MY DAD

    WAS IN MY BEST INTEREST. . .They Fucking Lied.

    We know what you have been doing to our fathers

    in your corrupt family courts you sick mother fuckers.

  • in your video, there is little reference to the welfare of the child.

    I believe you are absolutely correct about men needing to find more respectable women to be with. However, be it an upstanding woman or not - you're an adult, and we all know what sex is for and what it leads to. If you had unsafe sex or your condom simply broke, it doesn't matter - you took the risk and played your role in creating a new human being. You cant simply wash your hands of that responsibility.

  • Your absolutely correct but miss the point that after conception the man completely looses his rights under the Constitution. Both parties had equallity until she decides to have it or not. She has the only choice at that point and the man does not! Totally unconstitutional and illegal!

  • use a condom

    

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  • This is SO completely absurd. According to his logic, if the relationship doesn't work out, a man is under no obligation to assist in the child's life. It's not about her being a "hood rat" type of woman, which is an asinine name for a single mother...rather it's about the mother being left with the responsibility to care for a child while the male does nothing. What man would have qualms with caring for his child?

  • What a bunch of crap! Without "forced child support," men could just go around getting women pregnant, walking away, and sticking their mothers and/or the taxpayers with all the bills! FUCK THAT SHIT!!! I don't care if your baby's momma is a millionaire. IF YOU MAKE A BABY, YOU PAY FOR THAT BABY!

  • @fileboy2002 Wrong. Where is the womans responsibility in that for abstenance? If she decides to have and he doesnt want it he's lost his freedom of choice. She had all the same options as well as not consenting to sex prior to conception. If she wants it she should be financially obligated to pay just like buying a car. They should then enter into a contract but he will have to give up his rights until the child is of legal age or even thereafter, unless the child attempts to contact at age.

  • @helobelow The man has freedom of choice at the point of conception. He can use a condom, or he can abstain. Once conception occurs, his choices are OVER. I should have to pay for your kid just because you say, "I didn't want it?" Fuck that shit! If you didn't want it, then you should have kept it in your pants or used a condom! Birth control is readily available. People need to get their heads out of their asses and USE IT!!!! We don't need any more unwanted kids born to idiot parents!

  • @georgelopezblows Its also the mans fault for not wearing a condom. PERIOD... They make a choice to have unprotected sex they know there is a chance a baby can come out of it.. It goes both ways!

  • Its not the child fault, you need to pay your deeds!!!

  • Thats the dumbest shit I ever heard by far... Stop making kids & dont wanna take of care of em, you wouldnt have non of these problems... Wrap it up you bum niggas!!!

  • i m a woman and i have to pay my ex. i know you don't hear about a lot. the payment is killing me. one day i ll just eat all my pills and my pain will stop.

  • on monthly, with attached supporting documentation proving what they are claiming. Not doing so should result in a loss of the support. As long as the custodial parent works and takes care of the child to the best of their ability as it is, I don't see any reason to gouge the other person's pockets unfairly or unnecessarily. That is what I meant by my statement.

  • per month income and paying six hundred plus in child support which is completely unreasonable. I think that no matter if the non custodial parent makes 100k or more per year, there should be a federal child support allotment cap at four hundred dollars monthly per child. In most cases, maybe twelve to fourteen percent of a person's income would be more reasonable than twenty to fifty. The custodial parent should have to complete spreadsheets outlining what the support money is spent

  • says he/ or she is entitled to. I believe that child support is part of life when you have children that do not live with you inside the home. They have expenses that come about monthly and the contribution can help with that to help with the support of the child. However, people shouldn't abuse the system and the court should not be allowed to take out any money from what the parent is paying at all. Then, we wouldn't see so many people going into court with a fourteen hundred dollar

  • most significant portion of the determined allotment. What the man pays into the child support system, the courts take out eight percent from the determined amount he is paying. I shouldn't say the 'man'....the non custodial parent. The non custodial parent has to cover the court cost and all cost for dna testing in the beginning of the case, and the court gets more funds by taking the eight percent out of what he pays. So, the custodial parent is actually not receiving what the judge

  • I didn't specifically say that all men pay 14.8% of their income. In our state, the amount of child support a man pays varies. They are able to take up to 50% of his income though. It depends on the man's situation as far as his income level, how many overnights the kids have had, and what expenses for the child the mother can prove. The standard calculation is usually twenty percent of the man's income, and an added amount for each child after. Therefore, the first child always gets the

  • Stop sticking your dick in a woman raw!!! As a matter of fact, you shouldn't be having sex until you get married. You are a poor excuse of a man - thank God they force child support. Otherwise, cumfreaks like you would make babies and not care if they are taken care of. You don't have to be a father . . . just run me my money - now run along.

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  • Is like that saying, The Gov puts an innocent person in Jail or in Prison for a Crime that they NEVER had done nor DID, Just to see the OUTCOME of that Person?

    Now we all know, Is NOT a good OUTCOME....etc

    So, that's what the GOV is doing to US right now .... MEN'S, WOMEN'S ..... to all OF US !!!

    Their USING and DOING the same thang on us ......... The Same Way.

    We're CRIMINALS!!!!

  • Forced anything is wrong. Too many women say "its my body and my choice" we say its "my labor, my income$, my freedom, my body (at work for 18 years earning the cash to forcefully pay you, not getting government help while popping out kids like you) and my choice".

    Government should produce the male pill, make alimony history & allow men to choose parenthood after sex like women can. We dont force women to get abortions or give birth and they shouldnt force us to pay or be parents under law.

  • @themaniusedtob -Thanks for commenting i really appreciate all you're feedback i agree with you that the Government should produce a male birth control bill.Some people just don't wear condoms birth control pills for men would make everything easier.

  • @JESUSSWOOPE even the male birth control pill will not be 100% effective... i'm afraid that both men and women will just have to learn to accept that with penetrative sex, comes responsibility... there are plenty of ways to enjoy sex without risking pregnancy... plain and simple... if you are not prepared to be a father to any child that may result from your behaviour, then fucking is out...

  • As far as the government programs are concerned, many socialized inteties are needed in order to help people survive. Let's not forget that fdr brought about welfare systems for a reason. The answers to the current abuse of the system are not welfare 'reform', its more job availability......which will not happen until the ruling powers that be finally tumble. I think the job and educational structues need to change as well as social norms within the community.

  • @msaphrodite23 In the USA no men make's 14.8% ..............THAT'S A LIE !!

    When Childsupport is 17.3% a week or Bi-weekly.

  • OH yes!! Someone admits it!! Men making the decisions that are wrong to begin with. That is so true. That's all the broads do is depend on the father, system, and or their damn parents. However, sometime the independent respectable women will take guys to the bank too just because they"re bitter. I say more people should look at a person for all angles.

  • It's not a crime to be a man, It's a crime to have a Child........Period.

    So, to those Young cats or Players, DON'T HAVE ANY KIDS!!

    Even if that women tells "YOU" that your selfish, or that Monster -in-law "IS" asking and begging on her kness "FOR" a Grandchild.

    Just walk AWAY, you don't even have to explain your self.....Just walk AWAY.

    It's all about Money and more Greed and Selfishness, Now the ball(s) is in their "COURTS"....and their laughing behind your back.

    Learn from me, Is ugly.

  • I want to say you are an idiot..... Child Support isn't suppose to make you be there in the child's life, its suppose to make u help financially.. its not fair that the mother has to pay everything.. it takes two to make a child

  • The Sickness of Peasants, Pay your Childsupport, I can't take care of your Kids and My Husband.

  • My socal daugther dropped out of school, and is working off the books, I've been paying this socal Childsupport payments for a good 18 1/2 years "my socal daugther is 19 y'o and a parent and works off the books", ----why off the books---"Why not pay taxes", Is just to proof to the courts, BY HER MOTHER. that my socal daugther is still living with her, just to collect childsupport. And the Jugde knows this.

    Those are the part that hurts me.

    Dropping out of school and not paying taxes.

  • I dont see the point of child support!

  • Manwomanmyth everyone. Google it. Go to the video page once you're on the website and watch all the videos in the right order. Take no video in isolation. See them all as one.

  • To Smith00, If you are a woman you get to play the victim, You get lawmakers to pass unconstitutional laws that wouldn't stand up if same law was applied to women. Stop corruption in the lucrative child support industry & the MONEY SAVED (if applied to support) would tripple the amount of support you get from your baby's daddy. If you even know who that is. 30% of the time women don't know. Why don't women bitch about (MONEY SAVED & PUT TOWARD KIDS) that instead of his fault/her fault??

  • When a woman goes to court & says, I need 1500 per mo. so children & I can live like we are accustomed too. Judge says, ok but law changed yesterday. I have lottery drum w/3 white balls for women & 3 blue (usually are) balls for men. He turns tumbler & blue ball falls out. Sorry, your husb gets the kids & you have to pay 1500 per mo. She replies, I only make 2500 per mo. He says, get use to it, men have for fifty yrs. I just cut divorce rate in half over night. Best interests of kids, right??

  • @MLJ1219 Perfect idea. I'd rather pay 1,500 of a 2,500 paycheck than spend 2,500 of my 2,500 paycheck and have to raise kids on top of that. See, now you're thinking. Single mothers have it a lot harder than dads who only work and pay money. I like this lotto idea you have.

  • Here's a suggestion for those boys who don't want to pay child support- USE A CONDOM!!! If you don't trust the woman you are having sex with, then take the birth control into your own hands!! Be responsible. Blame placing is a sign of weak character!!

  • Thank the socialist democrats who pushed for the Bradley amendment.

  • Maybe i'm not hearing this right. What i'm getting is if you ask for child support you are a hoodrat? Shoes cost money, clothes cost money, field trips, doctors appointments, medicine, dentist, childcare. Childcare alone will eat up half of your paycheck. But we should be the superstrong independent black woman and just bare it all smh no i don 't think so. Parenting is a 24/7 job with no time off. The least a man can do is help pay for the kids living exspenses.

  • @queenofweaves916 if a woman can't pay for a child, she a) should not have a child or b) have an abortion, if that is not desired by the mother she should c) give it up for adoption. To bring a child into this world without the ability to give it a decent life is wrong and selfish. Men do not get a choice to end their association with an unwanted or unaffordable baby via adoption or abortion, they have to live with a costly mistake, women do but many chose not to and force a father to pay 4 it.

  • I hope all young men see this.... because this literally has FKed up my life.

  • Sadly in western culture women of all races religions etc are universally toxic. Divorce rates in the US is 50%, and 70% of those divorces were initiated by women. Some may be cause of abusive men, but does not explain all of them.

    There is lots of financial incentives that tell women there is no need to commit to your husband.

    A divorced women has more money then a married woman. Alimony and Child support is the incentives most toxic western women seek.

  • i 100% AGREE WITH U ON THIS BRO!

  • I completely agree black people need to wake up and be more independent and these stupid ass women need to stop having baby after baby with the worst type of men why would a woman have a baby with a man that's never had a job and has kids with 5 and 6 different girls these women should make better choices with men.

  • Women need to stop having babies with deadbeat thugs and start having kids with respectful God loving black gentlemen and younger men need to stop having babies with slutty hoodrats that got babies with 3 and 4 different men.This is not just a black family ploblem its also a white family ploblem because there's just as many deadbeat White Fathers as there is Black Fathers.

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