thanks for this clip. still relevant. there aren't many activists like this today. if only garret still had the same commitment. now he's just a blabbering, lame ass, uranium loving, tree chopping suit. don't know what the other oils are doing.
and history teaches us that some facebook community standards amount to little more than protecting the community from images and words that put the lie to American propaganda and its protestations of innocence...
I agree with all Midnight Oil says, but this is NOT an official Video from the Band. This song is from the late 1980's, George the II invaded the Sovereign country of Iraq and killed and tortured many in 2002....
p.s i laugh at how u say 'our enemies'..who is your enemies? you make your own enemies im afraid-lets consider history and wow how ironic-virtually every travesty has had american involvement..and 9/11..oh yeah,your man bush definitely had a role in it.
brilliant song! and great clip perrrfection,brutal but honest..the price of war affects us all..why bush and blair and many others have not yet been trialled as war criminals is beyond me..
Bush is very weak! and anyone who challenges that are just as ignorant and arrogant as he is..LOVELOSS you seem to defend bush? shame on you,but hey doesn't surprise me.how wld u like to be bombed for no reason??
I'd like to see an updated video with Obama bowing down to every foreign leader he's met. Compare Bush to Hilter all you want, but as imperfect as Bush was, he didn't continually apologize for America. He wasn't weak and our enemies knew it.
Short Memory? The democrats will find out what that means soon enough.
love the oils and loved that its shows how stuffed we are as humans, and what greed will do to us after watchin things like this how can any person see colour or race in people only wrong doings
Firstly, the song's message of people today for the most part living in ignorance of past holocausts, wars and atrocities (whomever they were commited by) is absolutely true.
Secondly, to compare Bush to Hitler is Bullsh*t, so don't even bother.
Third, how history will view the Bush government's policies shall be based on whether the man and his advisors acted out of good faith or for corrupt, corporate (though definitely not a holocaust) reasons and I think the latter's generally true.
Oh Please: Hitler wanted a new order, and used the Jews as scapegoats, demonised them created steretypes world over even in Great Britain many viewed the Jews with mistrust. This led to the genocide of innocent Jews but the real aim was global expansion, in control of World Economy, same recipe new actors with Bush the sonofa******
You should know who controls the World Economy, which was PUT into reverse gear last year to make (Watch!) THE MONEY MASTERS, ever richer... The Money Masters Documentary, predicted last years economic meltdown..
Dude if I tell you the ones controlling the finance are the ones who "created" and manage the Federal Reserve in America which is NOT OWNED by the USA but operates outside of the US Governments control by the Trilateral Commission, ROckafella Group, Bilderbergs and their affiliations - The world is experienceing the same financial crisis as USA did when the Federal Reserve was "accepted" as a robust financial model.
More importantly look into the history of Ashkenazi jews!! this is over 90% of the global Jewish population and over 90% of the Jewish Population of Israel - White Caucasians who are descendants of the KHAZARIA EMPIRE and as such are NOT ISRAELITES nor are they SEMITIC but are the founders of ZIONISM - an APOCALYPTIC Group OCCUPYING PALESTINE.
The reality is that America will never get rid of its nukes, whoever thinks they will is an absoulte moron, a country that has the philosophy of "war for peace" will never disarm, a country thats citizens will never be rid of guns (because of a stupid amendment that was placed for the civil war era that has no place in modern society) will never disarm. Bush lost both "elections" and won the job due to political power from his daddy. thankfully that mistake is almost over.
Unbelievable. Since when was America's foreign policy an excuse to kill 3,000+ people? I guess the idea of diplomacy is something that muslims can't grasp. Let's not also forget that Saudi Arabia (having military bases there is the crux of Bin Laden arguement correct?) is completely complicit in America's presence there. Of course it's not just America that fanatical muslims hate is it? Mumbai? Kashmir? Bali? and pretty much anywhere else in the world where muslims live along side others.
Do you know how many people killed by CIA because of POLITICAL reasons? Do you know how many? American CIA agents killed over 300 Buddhist monks, over 1800 government workers in South Asia during the period of 1980 to 2000. Why don't you talk about that? Just because you hide the facts, doesn't mean it is not there. The fact is YOU ARE a terrorist in Iraq and Afghanistan because you are invading another country. YOU LOST in Vitamin war and you will lose this war as well.
I did addressed stiegs5's comment, "Since when was America's foreign policy an excuse to kill 3,000+ people?"
My response: "American CIA agents killed over 300 Buddhist monks, over 1800 government workers in South Asia during the period of 1980 to 2000."
FYI... American Government created the Al-Qaida to attack Russian army in Afghanistan long time ago. USA created the terrorism and now it is on your backyard. What goes around comes around!
What about the rest of it, you know, the stuff about your pet ethnic groups killing each other...like Moslem's killing Hindus or even the Sino-India war. The stuff that does not pass your filtration system of criticism, you know Jethro, the stuff that balances the polar tendencies of your political opinion.
Comparing George W to Hitler is completely wrong. Since when has there ever been a systematic genocide of a race of people done by George W or any other American? Hitler launched the seconde world war, what we are currently experiencing was thrust upon the u.s. by fanatical hatred of a particular section of people. If you can't see the difference then it's you, my friend, who lacks historical context. Your bias is completely apparent. I base my comments on facts which apparently escape you.
Ah, now it is completely obvious to me you are among the ranks of a loyal Bushie with a Neocon tendency towards explaining away a devastating war that has cost over a million Iraqi lives. It is you that is observing the historical account with a bias view. How is it that Iraqi people are any less important then those who suffered under Hitlers rule? Can you not see the hypocrisy in this? For it has been the Bush doctrine to invade preemptive and this has caused untold devastation and suffering.
What we have been experiencing has NOT been thrust upon us. It has manifested from years of bad foreign policy. These people do not hate us because of our ideology. It's not our freedom they despise. If you believe that you have been brainwashed. They hate us because for years we have built military bases in there country's. I don't have the time or patience to give you a history lesson here. All I can say is Hiroshima is a good example of the way US policies ignore innocence.
All I can say is Hiroshima is a good example of the way US policies ignore innocence. Remember my dear friend it is always the winners that write the history books real intelligence is when a person can decipher it. Read presidential directive 51, The one Bush signed, although Hitler also had a Directive 51. I wasn't sure if you were aware of that.
Hiroshima is a good example huh? Like America just decided one day to up and bomb a country. For kicks I guess? Something to do? What you don't realize my friend, is that the steadfastness of American military might during that time is the very reason that shit heads like you and your ilk can sprout your ignorant dribble. The alternative would have been learning to speak Japanese. Your ideas are an insult to the many Aussies who died on the Kakoda trail and in the war in general.
The US bombings of Tokyo, Hiroshima, and Nakasaki (and the Allied bombing of Dresden) were a violation of US policies that mandated distinctions between civilians and soldiers) and treaties the US had signed (treaties that served as the foundation for the Geneva Conventions). The notion that dropping the bombs saved US lives is, of course, ludicrous. Japan was beaten and offered conditional surrender. Truman would admit in his diaries that the saving US lives argument was a red herring.
Fascism is, or so at least one intellectual approach claims, a form of extreme nationalism. One can certainly make the argument that Bush and Company lied the US into war in order to preserve "the American way of life". If that is not a form of nationalism I don't know what is. And lets not forget how both Hitler and Bush used lies and propaganda to gain public support for national security measures and war.
Sounds like you're the problem here, trolling around on others pages and pearl clenching. How you could compare me with a leader of the Nazi Party's propaganda machine, leads me to believe you are willfully ignorant on the historical content in this montage. Reality based facts are not bias or propaganda.
So true - I remember being an Oils fan in my late teens in the early 80's and thinking how spot on their songs where then. I've been listening to the Oils again tonight & most of their songs relate to where the world is at now. Now 25+ years later and nothing has changed. We still elect d!ckheads and the US govenment leads us into another pile of of sh!t. When are we going to wake up?!
what an awesome song this is, it really gives me a good feeling inside and gives me perspective. It also reminds me of when I was a kid and my dad used to play oils late at night when he'd been drinking :) classic song
Furthermore, I think the Iraq war makes a song like this fairly pertinent for reasons I'm sure a person of your intelligence would understand. I mean the war has turned out to be an extremely disastrous venture with huge human and financial costs. Maybe the context and language is slightly different from the US and USSR's roles in Indochina or Afghanistan but I'm sure you'll agree that Western intervention has proven to be just as disastrous, and perhaps we should have had a longer memory.
Abraxus, if these guys are trying to be the world police better they stop killing babies right? Or, is it that you think that Moslems and blacks, (presumably because Youtube has an exclusivley white, Christian audience.)have a, no actually, I can't even talk to you you fucking shit, go get older, learn and then review what you said here today you dirty racist
Abraxas, I think your comments are pretty valid and although a left winger myself I think you're taking an argument to a bit of a higher level than most youtubers. One point about this video is that I don't think Midnight Oil ever really hid their politics. Furthermore I think the point the song is trying to make is that people in the West have short memory of atrocities in other parts of the world that their governments have played a part in, because it is out of sight and out of mind.
Abraxas, you make a valid point but I think Midnight Oil's point (as a band that always wore it's very left politics on it's sleeve) is that in a world where Western governments have been implicated in many many atrocities worldwide over the last century, Western people tend to have a short memory of Western culpability becuase the issue is out of sight and out of mind. This isn't tantamount to denying the atrocities of third world or communist regimes, as a lefty myself I certainly wouldn't.
I don't think that 'lefty's' are downplaying the atrocities of the Sudanese, Zimbawean, Chinese or Burmese governments. The Save Darfur campaign is huge in the States, and it is also very critical of China's role in this conflict. I work in humanitarian aid and with refugees and I can tell you that I participate in large amounts of advocacy to encourage change and an end to violence in these countries. A large amount of this includes lobbying to Western governments.
What do you want? The White Christian race to rule the whole world? good luck! Send your American Army to China, we will send body parts of your army. How come US can have nuclear weapons, but not India, Iran, China or anyone. If you are Canadian and keep saying we don't have nuclear weapons and therefore neither China, should realized that NATO and your WHITE thugs who own nuclear weapons will protect Christian countries like Canada! That's why Canada doesn't need weapons.
"What do you want? The White Christian race to rule the whole world?"
And I said this where?
"Send your American Army to China"
Also I'm Australian not American.
"How come US can have nuclear weapons, but not India, Iran, China or anyone" In a room of 10 people, each aren't equally entitled, by default, to a gun.
"That's why Canada doesn't need weapons"
Yet China does, but could still defeat the US without them?...hmmm contradiction!
Why double standard,... Australian White Christians? If you have the right to say Islamic Terrorists or Hindu terrorist or what ever.... why not other way around?
If USA give up nuclear weapons, others will. As long as WHITE ass protecting the WHITE ass, we need the weapons to protect ourselves.
Even the black Christians get a free pass. This is WHY Gandhi never received the Nobel Peace Prize, but Dr. Martin Luther King did.
"Why double standard" No double standard, but there are contingencies. Also, look up "false premise" and ask yourself why you start you're arguments with them.
You say you're 38, yet you keep saying "WHITE ass" like a fucking child...grow up and learn some appropriate discourse!
What about the black Christians that don't get a pass. You know the ones midnight oil champion - you know - this fucking clip!
Your not a "White Ass" by the sound of things so what ethnicity , may I ask, are you.
Abraxas if your not a child DO YOU HONESTLY believe a man in a cave had the SOPHISTICATION to independently plan 9/11 and remember the CIA can not explicitly link OBL to 9/11 other than the camps BUT ask yourself who supported the CAMP = CIA. ANd the degree of sophistication and the anomalies concerning 9/11 could NOT HAVE happened without USA GOVERNMENT elements not being involved.
ALso we all know IRAQ had NO - WMDS's it is a war for USA to control strategic TRADE ROUTES for OIL AND GAS and remain it's HEGEMONY on the world simple. Today the great world powers take the game away from Afghanistan and Iraq and play this in Pakistan. WHY so PAKISTAN's major ALLY CHINA does not get control of the INDIAN OCEAN or ACCESS to it. LINKED TO ECONOMY look at the global economy its fuckad
Chinikai hit the nail on the head!! I was having trouble seeing the difference but there is a distinct difference in the hair department. Other than this, I'd say Bush is appears to be pushing the other out of the way.
they seriously need to stop comparing bush to hitler. Sure you could say they attacked other countries, or fooled the people, and made the best example of propaganda. BUT hitler had a mustach and bush does not.
Yer that's right Abraxas, the photos of the dead babies are fakes, and the thinks they talk of in this song are all fictions. Turn over please, because your snoring is disturbing me!! But pleasant dreams never-the-less.
You are a typical pinko aren't you? You, much like midnight oil, are only interested in dead baby's if they died at the hands of the west.
If Muslims and Blacks in Africa are killing children by the thousand thats no problem at all, we'll keep ignoring them and protest something safe, like a free trade agreement or write a song about Bush. You have my sympathy!
I'm not looking at the colour of the babies. Did I mention who killed the babies? I'm against anyone killing babies. I think you are one sick cookie!!!
I don't require your sympathy because your lack of humanity makes me question what the word means to a person like you?
Yer that's right spin it any way you like because there is no argument with someone who knows it all and deliberately distorts to justify his argument. You think this song is Anti-West - far from it!!! When it talks of Afganistan and Cambodia, it is referring to sick-Communist regimes, Hilter and Bush are at the other end of the spectrum. This song is trying to get us to think before we use violence, that's all. You appear to distort its message because you think the song is something it's not.
The Cambodia reference was not about Communism or Pol Pot, but the US bombing of the country.
The references in the song are obviously focusing on the folly of western foreign policy, the only 2 that aren't so obvious are Afghanistan and Cambodia.
Mr Garrett has said in interviews that the songs main thrust was anti-colonialism and anti-imperialism, both charges could not be laid at the feet of Afghanistan and Cambodia. Look at the tag for this clip, you see Bush, Iraq but no Cambodia, Why?
the image at 13seconds (the one of the little girl with the sign "I Am Iraq") always gets to me... why do we have to be over there... we are killing innocent people
fuck goerge bush! fuck the freemasons!the zionists! fuck the american troops and any american who supports this war on the helpless people of iraq. is was the u.s govt behind the 911. reason for their war. why? to profit from tax payers money. buy arms arms using tax money in companies they hold shares in. business men who dictate the world to fill their pockets.wake up world!
And George Bush Senior is on the board of diretors for the Carlyle Group (amoungst Others)who are making massive profits formt he War in Iraq. COnflict of Interests anyone? Dick Cheeny works for Halliburton who are also making millions. They started the war, are making the money and the Tax payer is yet again hacing to pay for it. Enron anyone?
the sick thing is that we (the U.S.) will always either be at war or preparing for war because it's so profitable for the Military Industrial Complex. It won't end while the US is still the superpower. Watch the series "Why We Fight" here on youtube - it opened my eyes to this madness several months ago and I'll never be the same again!
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yes is very sad that innocent people are dieing, but has anyone forgotten what saddam did to his own people??? he deliberatley killed and tortured more then the americans have by accident. look outside the box you stupid hippes! saddam was a virus and had to go.
I'm not condoning anything that Saddam did, but you need to get your facts right xrfordy. The Americans have killed more innocent people then Saddam and most all middle eastern contries put together. And this was before we even reached the 90's.
This is an extremely powerful video. It really gets you thinking. It just shows the human race, or those in power forget to learn from History, very sad.
This is the second time this year I've run across someone using "Lenin" or "Leninist" to describe all leftists. Oh, please. We were here before Lenin, we'll be here when he is ancient history. We include figures as diverse as Jesus & Robespierre.
Midnight Oil is hardly Lenin or Lenin like, Also if you don't wake up sooooooooon you will not have a left or a right. It's no longer about what side of the political hemisphere you claim to be on! It's about The NWO and the North American Union! BTW Jesus wasn't on one side or the other. & I KNOW IT'S A GREAT SONG look up US Forces by Midnight Oil!
Pain.Hurt. Pain.Sorrow. I feel so bad...I feel so much pain after seeing this. How can we be so evil? If you have a child you can feel the pain moving in this. THis is an outrage!!!!! BUSH IS EVIL
WTF Came to hear music not watch children w/ major wounds!
Malartyr 3 weeks ago
thanks for this clip. still relevant. there aren't many activists like this today. if only garret still had the same commitment. now he's just a blabbering, lame ass, uranium loving, tree chopping suit. don't know what the other oils are doing.
HumanistMercenary4 2 months ago
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I wish I knew what u r talkin about warlord, but I dont!
glynnth 3 months ago
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1982 Peter Garret denunces American military interference and imperialist repression.
2010 Peter Garret supports American military interference and imperialist repression.
Short memory, must have a... Short memory.
JustinFromSydney 4 months ago
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and history teaches us that some facebook community standards amount to little more than protecting the community from images and words that put the lie to American propaganda and its protestations of innocence...
ronhelf 5 months ago
I agree with all Midnight Oil says, but this is NOT an official Video from the Band. This song is from the late 1980's, George the II invaded the Sovereign country of Iraq and killed and tortured many in 2002....
DjWellDressedMan 6 months ago
@DjWellDressedMan so true... My love for the band and thier message inspired me to make this video..
perrrfection 5 months ago
Hitler and BUSH BOTH PAPAL PUPPETS!
BabylonFading2012 8 months ago
oh the irony...
GodSpeedPluto 10 months ago
love this song
1cameron22 1 year ago
My favorite Oils song.
Thurbane316 1 year ago
One of my favorite Oils song and the best Oil's album
rabbitoh65 1 year ago
good video,
the kind of video this song needs
seanwasere 1 year ago
p.s i laugh at how u say 'our enemies'..who is your enemies? you make your own enemies im afraid-lets consider history and wow how ironic-virtually every travesty has had american involvement..and 9/11..oh yeah,your man bush definitely had a role in it.
TJnomadi 2 years ago
brilliant song! and great clip perrrfection,brutal but honest..the price of war affects us all..why bush and blair and many others have not yet been trialled as war criminals is beyond me..
Bush is very weak! and anyone who challenges that are just as ignorant and arrogant as he is..LOVELOSS you seem to defend bush? shame on you,but hey doesn't surprise me.how wld u like to be bombed for no reason??
TJnomadi 2 years ago
top song (as all the other Oils' stuff), top job at making this video - cruel but real. hope people dont have such a short memory.
artiguista18 2 years ago
I'd like to see an updated video with Obama bowing down to every foreign leader he's met. Compare Bush to Hilter all you want, but as imperfect as Bush was, he didn't continually apologize for America. He wasn't weak and our enemies knew it.
Short Memory? The democrats will find out what that means soon enough.
lovelosshoperepeat 2 years ago
Excellent visual.
Thanno1995 2 years ago
my peace class teacher played this song and now i love IT thanks MAN UR THE BEST TEACHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Staceyalex532 2 years ago
this is not a lesson about war. just listen to the song u gooses
larkinnnn1 2 years ago
love the oils and loved that its shows how stuffed we are as humans, and what greed will do to us after watchin things like this how can any person see colour or race in people only wrong doings
winkybat 2 years ago
I am glad I left the Army before I could play any part in this crap!
vne1981 2 years ago
peter garret just approved an australian 4th uranim mine, funny how the power and the passion effects his short memory
adamepirb 2 years ago 17
Because he is acting on behalf of labour...really think he wants to?
see how many environmental requirements he put on the mine?
he's trying to steer the river now, not stop it.
HypoMix 2 years ago
Great to see a politician with guts talking honestly. Thanks Wilkie. Hopefully Peter Garret can get some of your passion.
lesdoyle2000 1 year ago
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adamepirb 2 years ago
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adamepirb 2 years ago
my favourite M.O. song
diocles70 2 years ago
The lyric+music of this song is perfect, but with these pictures the 'message' even stronger
WladyslawWegierski 2 years ago
deep song
NathanWooley 2 years ago
A few of us haven't forgotten...
glynnth 2 years ago 5
: ) Yes, so true!
perrrfection 2 years ago
@glynnth Like anti flag! :)
XxXScirishWarLordXxX 3 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Midnight Oil
Awesome job on the vid -- great images.
equinoxecinq 2 years ago
strong
matteobarbariol 2 years ago
lol at 2:16, the slogan NOT the politics
ozlotto76 2 years ago
Firstly, the song's message of people today for the most part living in ignorance of past holocausts, wars and atrocities (whomever they were commited by) is absolutely true.
Secondly, to compare Bush to Hitler is Bullsh*t, so don't even bother.
Third, how history will view the Bush government's policies shall be based on whether the man and his advisors acted out of good faith or for corrupt, corporate (though definitely not a holocaust) reasons and I think the latter's generally true.
deadlydan1993 3 years ago
Oh Please: Hitler wanted a new order, and used the Jews as scapegoats, demonised them created steretypes world over even in Great Britain many viewed the Jews with mistrust. This led to the genocide of innocent Jews but the real aim was global expansion, in control of World Economy, same recipe new actors with Bush the sonofa******
ALANSARALHAQ 2 years ago
You should know who controls the World Economy, which was PUT into reverse gear last year to make (Watch!) THE MONEY MASTERS, ever richer... The Money Masters Documentary, predicted last years economic meltdown..
Steveguyatrocket 2 years ago
Dude if I tell you the ones controlling the finance are the ones who "created" and manage the Federal Reserve in America which is NOT OWNED by the USA but operates outside of the US Governments control by the Trilateral Commission, ROckafella Group, Bilderbergs and their affiliations - The world is experienceing the same financial crisis as USA did when the Federal Reserve was "accepted" as a robust financial model.
ALANSARALHAQ 2 years ago
More importantly look into the history of Ashkenazi jews!! this is over 90% of the global Jewish population and over 90% of the Jewish Population of Israel - White Caucasians who are descendants of the KHAZARIA EMPIRE and as such are NOT ISRAELITES nor are they SEMITIC but are the founders of ZIONISM - an APOCALYPTIC Group OCCUPYING PALESTINE.
ALANSARALHAQ 2 years ago
100% all wars created by these banking families in particular, the zionist Rothschilds. They want WW3 and to enslave humanity with a New World Order.
BabylonFading2012 2 years ago
ORLY? How 'bout the big country that wants all the oil? Begins with a U...ends with...hmm....SA? Ah yea.
mrmurderman 2 years ago
The reality is that America will never get rid of its nukes, whoever thinks they will is an absoulte moron, a country that has the philosophy of "war for peace" will never disarm, a country thats citizens will never be rid of guns (because of a stupid amendment that was placed for the civil war era that has no place in modern society) will never disarm. Bush lost both "elections" and won the job due to political power from his daddy. thankfully that mistake is almost over.
Good cut on the vid!
FluffyDonkey 3 years ago
Unbelievable. Since when was America's foreign policy an excuse to kill 3,000+ people? I guess the idea of diplomacy is something that muslims can't grasp. Let's not also forget that Saudi Arabia (having military bases there is the crux of Bin Laden arguement correct?) is completely complicit in America's presence there. Of course it's not just America that fanatical muslims hate is it? Mumbai? Kashmir? Bali? and pretty much anywhere else in the world where muslims live along side others.
stiegs5 3 years ago
stiegs5 u r a dumb shit cunt! perrrfection hitts the mark
tbmac86 3 years ago
stiegs5,
Do you know how many people killed by CIA because of POLITICAL reasons? Do you know how many? American CIA agents killed over 300 Buddhist monks, over 1800 government workers in South Asia during the period of 1980 to 2000. Why don't you talk about that? Just because you hide the facts, doesn't mean it is not there. The fact is YOU ARE a terrorist in Iraq and Afghanistan because you are invading another country. YOU LOST in Vitamin war and you will lose this war as well.
mssca 3 years ago
mssca, predictably, you address nothing that stiegs5 said.
SmithyWilson99 3 years ago
SmithyWilson99,
I did addressed stiegs5's comment, "Since when was America's foreign policy an excuse to kill 3,000+ people?"
My response: "American CIA agents killed over 300 Buddhist monks, over 1800 government workers in South Asia during the period of 1980 to 2000."
FYI... American Government created the Al-Qaida to attack Russian army in Afghanistan long time ago. USA created the terrorism and now it is on your backyard. What goes around comes around!
mssca 3 years ago
What about the rest of it, you know, the stuff about your pet ethnic groups killing each other...like Moslem's killing Hindus or even the Sino-India war. The stuff that does not pass your filtration system of criticism, you know Jethro, the stuff that balances the polar tendencies of your political opinion.
AbraxasNexus 3 years ago
Comparing George W to Hitler is completely wrong. Since when has there ever been a systematic genocide of a race of people done by George W or any other American? Hitler launched the seconde world war, what we are currently experiencing was thrust upon the u.s. by fanatical hatred of a particular section of people. If you can't see the difference then it's you, my friend, who lacks historical context. Your bias is completely apparent. I base my comments on facts which apparently escape you.
stiegs5 3 years ago
Ah, now it is completely obvious to me you are among the ranks of a loyal Bushie with a Neocon tendency towards explaining away a devastating war that has cost over a million Iraqi lives. It is you that is observing the historical account with a bias view. How is it that Iraqi people are any less important then those who suffered under Hitlers rule? Can you not see the hypocrisy in this? For it has been the Bush doctrine to invade preemptive and this has caused untold devastation and suffering.
perrrfection 3 years ago
What we have been experiencing has NOT been thrust upon us. It has manifested from years of bad foreign policy. These people do not hate us because of our ideology. It's not our freedom they despise. If you believe that you have been brainwashed. They hate us because for years we have built military bases in there country's. I don't have the time or patience to give you a history lesson here. All I can say is Hiroshima is a good example of the way US policies ignore innocence.
perrrfection 3 years ago
All I can say is Hiroshima is a good example of the way US policies ignore innocence. Remember my dear friend it is always the winners that write the history books real intelligence is when a person can decipher it. Read presidential directive 51, The one Bush signed, although Hitler also had a Directive 51. I wasn't sure if you were aware of that.
perrrfection 3 years ago
Hiroshima is a good example huh? Like America just decided one day to up and bomb a country. For kicks I guess? Something to do? What you don't realize my friend, is that the steadfastness of American military might during that time is the very reason that shit heads like you and your ilk can sprout your ignorant dribble. The alternative would have been learning to speak Japanese. Your ideas are an insult to the many Aussies who died on the Kakoda trail and in the war in general.
stiegs5 3 years ago
The US bombings of Tokyo, Hiroshima, and Nakasaki (and the Allied bombing of Dresden) were a violation of US policies that mandated distinctions between civilians and soldiers) and treaties the US had signed (treaties that served as the foundation for the Geneva Conventions). The notion that dropping the bombs saved US lives is, of course, ludicrous. Japan was beaten and offered conditional surrender. Truman would admit in his diaries that the saving US lives argument was a red herring.
ronhelf 3 years ago
@perrrfection You're an idiot.
starwarsnerd94 1 year ago
@perrrfection yer but the nips deserved it
bjl34565 8 months ago
@bjl34565 Everything but the nukes yes...
GrigoriZhukov 4 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Midnight Oil
Fascism is, or so at least one intellectual approach claims, a form of extreme nationalism. One can certainly make the argument that Bush and Company lied the US into war in order to preserve "the American way of life". If that is not a form of nationalism I don't know what is. And lets not forget how both Hitler and Bush used lies and propaganda to gain public support for national security measures and war.
ronhelf 3 years ago
@stiegs5 You don't know your history buddy. Read 'Hitler's war'. You seem to need to.
bardbollocks 11 months ago
Well done Joseph Goebbles! You lack of historical context and intelligence overall is about as large as your bias views. Great song, crap montage.
stiegs5 3 years ago
Sounds like you're the problem here, trolling around on others pages and pearl clenching. How you could compare me with a leader of the Nazi Party's propaganda machine, leads me to believe you are willfully ignorant on the historical content in this montage. Reality based facts are not bias or propaganda.
perrrfection 3 years ago
Handpicked BS. Joseph Goebbles couldn't have done it better.
stiegs5 3 years ago
oh man this is disturbing, this world is doomed if it continues on this road
Laras420 3 years ago
So true - I remember being an Oils fan in my late teens in the early 80's and thinking how spot on their songs where then. I've been listening to the Oils again tonight & most of their songs relate to where the world is at now. Now 25+ years later and nothing has changed. We still elect d!ckheads and the US govenment leads us into another pile of of sh!t. When are we going to wake up?!
sydmat 3 years ago 2
We're not, 'cos we've got short memories...
IncoherentGargle 3 years ago 2
what an awesome song this is, it really gives me a good feeling inside and gives me perspective. It also reminds me of when I was a kid and my dad used to play oils late at night when he'd been drinking :) classic song
yngwiewylde 3 years ago 3
I truly have no words........are there no awards or prizes for this sort of piece? keep it up,thank you
timj41 3 years ago 2
Furthermore, I think the Iraq war makes a song like this fairly pertinent for reasons I'm sure a person of your intelligence would understand. I mean the war has turned out to be an extremely disastrous venture with huge human and financial costs. Maybe the context and language is slightly different from the US and USSR's roles in Indochina or Afghanistan but I'm sure you'll agree that Western intervention has proven to be just as disastrous, and perhaps we should have had a longer memory.
sundayarvo 3 years ago 2
Abraxus, if these guys are trying to be the world police better they stop killing babies right? Or, is it that you think that Moslems and blacks, (presumably because Youtube has an exclusivley white, Christian audience.)have a, no actually, I can't even talk to you you fucking shit, go get older, learn and then review what you said here today you dirty racist
aprilandtony 3 years ago 2
this finds my heart
beng104 3 years ago 2
From mine to yours!
perrrfection 3 years ago
!!!!!!
AbraxasNexus 3 years ago
Abraxas, I think your comments are pretty valid and although a left winger myself I think you're taking an argument to a bit of a higher level than most youtubers. One point about this video is that I don't think Midnight Oil ever really hid their politics. Furthermore I think the point the song is trying to make is that people in the West have short memory of atrocities in other parts of the world that their governments have played a part in, because it is out of sight and out of mind.
sundayarvo 3 years ago
Abraxas, you make a valid point but I think Midnight Oil's point (as a band that always wore it's very left politics on it's sleeve) is that in a world where Western governments have been implicated in many many atrocities worldwide over the last century, Western people tend to have a short memory of Western culpability becuase the issue is out of sight and out of mind. This isn't tantamount to denying the atrocities of third world or communist regimes, as a lefty myself I certainly wouldn't.
sundayarvo 3 years ago
I don't think that 'lefty's' are downplaying the atrocities of the Sudanese, Zimbawean, Chinese or Burmese governments. The Save Darfur campaign is huge in the States, and it is also very critical of China's role in this conflict. I work in humanitarian aid and with refugees and I can tell you that I participate in large amounts of advocacy to encourage change and an end to violence in these countries. A large amount of this includes lobbying to Western governments.
sundayarvo 3 years ago
AbraxasNexus,
What do you want? The White Christian race to rule the whole world? good luck! Send your American Army to China, we will send body parts of your army. How come US can have nuclear weapons, but not India, Iran, China or anyone. If you are Canadian and keep saying we don't have nuclear weapons and therefore neither China, should realized that NATO and your WHITE thugs who own nuclear weapons will protect Christian countries like Canada! That's why Canada doesn't need weapons.
mssca 3 years ago
"What do you want? The White Christian race to rule the whole world?"
And I said this where?
"Send your American Army to China"
Also I'm Australian not American.
"How come US can have nuclear weapons, but not India, Iran, China or anyone" In a room of 10 people, each aren't equally entitled, by default, to a gun.
"That's why Canada doesn't need weapons"
Yet China does, but could still defeat the US without them?...hmmm contradiction!
That was easy wasn't princess!!!!
AbraxasNexus 3 years ago
AbraxasNexus
Why double standard,... Australian White Christians? If you have the right to say Islamic Terrorists or Hindu terrorist or what ever.... why not other way around?
If USA give up nuclear weapons, others will. As long as WHITE ass protecting the WHITE ass, we need the weapons to protect ourselves.
Even the black Christians get a free pass. This is WHY Gandhi never received the Nobel Peace Prize, but Dr. Martin Luther King did.
FYI... American Government created the Al-Qaida!
mssca 3 years ago
"Why double standard" No double standard, but there are contingencies. Also, look up "false premise" and ask yourself why you start you're arguments with them.
You say you're 38, yet you keep saying "WHITE ass" like a fucking child...grow up and learn some appropriate discourse!
What about the black Christians that don't get a pass. You know the ones midnight oil champion - you know - this fucking clip!
Your not a "White Ass" by the sound of things so what ethnicity , may I ask, are you.
AbraxasNexus 3 years ago
Abraxas if your not a child DO YOU HONESTLY believe a man in a cave had the SOPHISTICATION to independently plan 9/11 and remember the CIA can not explicitly link OBL to 9/11 other than the camps BUT ask yourself who supported the CAMP = CIA. ANd the degree of sophistication and the anomalies concerning 9/11 could NOT HAVE happened without USA GOVERNMENT elements not being involved.
ALANSARALHAQ 2 years ago
also Abraxas;
ALso we all know IRAQ had NO - WMDS's it is a war for USA to control strategic TRADE ROUTES for OIL AND GAS and remain it's HEGEMONY on the world simple. Today the great world powers take the game away from Afghanistan and Iraq and play this in Pakistan. WHY so PAKISTAN's major ALLY CHINA does not get control of the INDIAN OCEAN or ACCESS to it. LINKED TO ECONOMY look at the global economy its fuckad
ALANSARALHAQ 2 years ago
Chinikai hit the nail on the head!! I was having trouble seeing the difference but there is a distinct difference in the hair department. Other than this, I'd say Bush is appears to be pushing the other out of the way.
khanno01 3 years ago
they seriously need to stop comparing bush to hitler. Sure you could say they attacked other countries, or fooled the people, and made the best example of propaganda. BUT hitler had a mustach and bush does not.
chinikai 3 years ago
Seriously, you're right. That's amazing!
IncoherentGargle 3 years ago
Midnight Oil are made of win
RTK905 3 years ago
the song should be called "Selective memory"
AbraxasNexus 3 years ago
no... that must be the name of your song.
fakeones 3 years ago
Why?
SmithyWilson99 3 years ago
Im asking why
AbraxasNexus 3 years ago
Yer that's right Abraxas, the photos of the dead babies are fakes, and the thinks they talk of in this song are all fictions. Turn over please, because your snoring is disturbing me!! But pleasant dreams never-the-less.
khanno01 3 years ago
You are a typical pinko aren't you? You, much like midnight oil, are only interested in dead baby's if they died at the hands of the west.
If Muslims and Blacks in Africa are killing children by the thousand thats no problem at all, we'll keep ignoring them and protest something safe, like a free trade agreement or write a song about Bush. You have my sympathy!
AbraxasNexus 3 years ago
I'm not looking at the colour of the babies. Did I mention who killed the babies? I'm against anyone killing babies. I think you are one sick cookie!!!
I don't require your sympathy because your lack of humanity makes me question what the word means to a person like you?
khanno01 3 years ago
"I'm not looking at the colour of the babies."
I certainly didn't bring it up...racist!
"Did I mention who killed the babies?"
No, the clip that you support does!
Admit it...your biased!
AbraxasNexus 3 years ago
Yer that's right spin it any way you like because there is no argument with someone who knows it all and deliberately distorts to justify his argument. You think this song is Anti-West - far from it!!! When it talks of Afganistan and Cambodia, it is referring to sick-Communist regimes, Hilter and Bush are at the other end of the spectrum. This song is trying to get us to think before we use violence, that's all. You appear to distort its message because you think the song is something it's not.
khanno01 3 years ago
The Cambodia reference was not about Communism or Pol Pot, but the US bombing of the country.
The references in the song are obviously focusing on the folly of western foreign policy, the only 2 that aren't so obvious are Afghanistan and Cambodia.
Mr Garrett has said in interviews that the songs main thrust was anti-colonialism and anti-imperialism, both charges could not be laid at the feet of Afghanistan and Cambodia. Look at the tag for this clip, you see Bush, Iraq but no Cambodia, Why?
AbraxasNexus 3 years ago
Powerful song and video.. well put together!
It is so sad what is going on in the world...
Ezarah 3 years ago
the image at 13seconds (the one of the little girl with the sign "I Am Iraq") always gets to me... why do we have to be over there... we are killing innocent people
xXxDRAMAxXxQUEENxXx 3 years ago
Brilliant video! Well done, and let's get these guys on trial!
rabbie1121 3 years ago
Show Michael Moore these downloads
lapalad 3 years ago
fuck goerge bush! fuck the freemasons!the zionists! fuck the american troops and any american who supports this war on the helpless people of iraq. is was the u.s govt behind the 911. reason for their war. why? to profit from tax payers money. buy arms arms using tax money in companies they hold shares in. business men who dictate the world to fill their pockets.wake up world!
mickfar00 3 years ago
i love this song!
brotagaia 4 years ago
And George Bush Senior is on the board of diretors for the Carlyle Group (amoungst Others)who are making massive profits formt he War in Iraq. COnflict of Interests anyone? Dick Cheeny works for Halliburton who are also making millions. They started the war, are making the money and the Tax payer is yet again hacing to pay for it. Enron anyone?
fourmanfilms 4 years ago 2
the sick thing is that we (the U.S.) will always either be at war or preparing for war because it's so profitable for the Military Industrial Complex. It won't end while the US is still the superpower. Watch the series "Why We Fight" here on youtube - it opened my eyes to this madness several months ago and I'll never be the same again!
heatherleaves 4 years ago 3
I cry, in this moment ... my heart is broke..
why the Powerfullman make this! why Bush...
Do you have a child? monster, you are a real boss of Axis of the Devil!
ChicoBalaBR 4 years ago
very powerfull stuff very shocking photos!!!!!!
harrycount 4 years ago 3
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yes is very sad that innocent people are dieing, but has anyone forgotten what saddam did to his own people??? he deliberatley killed and tortured more then the americans have by accident. look outside the box you stupid hippes! saddam was a virus and had to go.
xrfordy 4 years ago
I'm not condoning anything that Saddam did, but you need to get your facts right xrfordy. The Americans have killed more innocent people then Saddam and most all middle eastern contries put together. And this was before we even reached the 90's.
Two words - Atomic Bomb!
unnefer1978 4 years ago 7
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same shit different asshole!
word _/
Querlynator 4 years ago
I feel sick in the stomach thinking of all the innocent men, women & children who are murdered every day by our f***ing Democratic Governments!
.....while many good people just sit watching from the fence?
BTW, beautifully edited.
Smurfisnotblue 4 years ago 3
well edited man.
NoFaithTheist 4 years ago 2
bush is a lowlife criminal..he and howard are scum..but what the fuck does it matter what i think..im justa fucking courier driver
yitbopalay 4 years ago 6
This is an extremely powerful video. It really gets you thinking. It just shows the human race, or those in power forget to learn from History, very sad.
mrmiagi 4 years ago
Its hard to think about dead Iraqis and the rise of Fascism in your country when you are playing world of warcraft.
NoFaithTheist 4 years ago 5
This is the second time this year I've run across someone using "Lenin" or "Leninist" to describe all leftists. Oh, please. We were here before Lenin, we'll be here when he is ancient history. We include figures as diverse as Jesus & Robespierre.
So knock it off!
Great song, btw.
philippos42 4 years ago
Midnight Oil is hardly Lenin or Lenin like, Also if you don't wake up sooooooooon you will not have a left or a right. It's no longer about what side of the political hemisphere you claim to be on! It's about The NWO and the North American Union! BTW Jesus wasn't on one side or the other. & I KNOW IT'S A GREAT SONG look up US Forces by Midnight Oil!
perrrfection 4 years ago
Sorry, I meant that to be a response to Quarthorned, just trying to make the point that "left" is really really broad.
I love this song, by the way.
philippos42 4 years ago
Pain.Hurt. Pain.Sorrow. I feel so bad...I feel so much pain after seeing this. How can we be so evil? If you have a child you can feel the pain moving in this. THis is an outrage!!!!! BUSH IS EVIL
3trifecta 4 years ago
their only there to lend a hand...sound familiar?
pinback10 4 years ago
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Midnight Oil = Useful Idiots. (Lenin couldn't coin it better!)
Slatch35 4 years ago
u learn that at uni? Ahhh ur in the lenin phase
Quarthorned 4 years ago
Nice video of hypocracy.
tyruler 4 years ago
absolutely right on, perrfection. thanks for your reply. this hits the same nail squarely on the head.
kynandog 4 years ago