The Georgian trap

[Crossbearershvili]

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Russia plans (last time since 1947-49

and 1954-56) and exterminate nations since 9 AD

- Russia is lie multiplied by 150 millions Russians,

lying mashine, bough by stolen oil, gas and robbed USSR,

and some missguided by them Imperial resurectors

on the right and Third World brigades on the Left.

Specially Georgia and Caucasus.

[ppitm]

Foreign Minister Ivanov and McCain are full of so much shit, both of them.

[Grgna1]

No one INITIATED the media war. It started by both sides because too obvious for both sides that it's extremely important to gain supporters in other countries. About this report, I can bet my head that it's "funded" by Russians. Not only this, Russians are rewriting history. Medvedev just hired people to rewrite history saying how even more parts of Georgia were initially Ossetian and Georgians took it violently. Something that never happened but unfortunatelly people will belive it eventually.

[Kurtlane]

Pretty lousy report. Blame this war on McCain, blame it on Georgia, on Saakashvili, on anyone but Russia and Putin.

A ton of half-truths in details, too many to go into.

Anything but what really happened.

[ilakri]

The real news looks like very pro-russian

[episteme420]

I believe that the only way it would appear this way to you is if you are anti-russian.

TRNN presented the facts and then both sides interpretation of them.

[ilakri]

I suggest you to read HRW report about the Georgia-Russian war and you will see that a lot of facts are incorrect in this report. Particularly, how many Osetianse were killed during the war.

They never mentioned opinion from international organizations like HRW. That is why I think that this report and most The Real Time News Reports pro-Russian.

Do you know how is Guliashvili? Any idea why the interviewed only him?

[episteme420]

So, Yeah there are alot of facts missing from the report but as far as I have been reading up on this, none of TRNN fact's were incorrect.

No, I do not know of Guliashvili and I have no idea why they chose to interview him.

But, what reason would TRNN have to be bais? Just to be anti-American?

[ilakri]

No thousands of Osetians were killed during this war (read HRW report). So, Ivanov lies.

On other hand, 16 thousands Georgians are not able to return there homes (no one is able to return) and this is Ethnic Cleansing. But TRNN never mentioned this fact.

[v0r0n0k]

Good comment from georgian who lives in US, keep up the shitgiving info work

[ilakri]

Georgian and live in US :))) so what?!

I made very objective comment about TRNN report and Ill say again that many facts in this report are NOT correct. You will figure out easily if you get information from different independent sources.

[kpsanjose]

Only thing is not correct is the no of civilian(SO) killed in the starting of the war which russia itself agreed later as honest way. Other than that every thing is correct as this mention. The No of geogian fleed even before war statred, accoding to Geogian plan, How can u expect them to return the land? since They left in a cunning way and avoid the death.

last thing, Do I neet to mention How much money geogian and media get from US and their facts of coverage in media?

[ilakri]

This report was made long time after the war and it was known that Russians were intentionally putting in to the media wrong number.

And this is important fact, which changes the perception of this war. TRNN never mentioned that Ivanov was wrong in his interview. They sale Ivanovs interview like truth, and this is wrong in my opinion.

I never say that Russian government pays TRNN. But I do say that this report is very pro-Russian.

[kpsanjose]

People have 6th sense to analysis anything. Good luck in the future..

[ilakri]

As I have been informed form my Georgian friends he (Guliashvili) is pro-Russian journalist and this in some sense mean to be anti-American too.

Bur, I think main problem is that they (TRNN) never mentioned neutral/independent third part point of view and that is why report is not objective. So, I think TRNN looks like pro-Russian in this case.

[mag1k2]

your right .... the truth does hurt

[Grgna1]

The Georgian journalist is very pro-Russian. And the fact that they picked him makes me think that TRNN is also pretty biased.

Episteme, the answer to your question as to why would they be biased is money. Russia spends a huge amount of money to bribe media because they know how important this is. Unfortunatelly Georgia does not have that much money to resist this media war, so I'm afraid this will have a huge impact against Georgia.

[ilakri]

Yes, Im right, at list I try to point out incorrect facts in the report. I suggest people to get objective information from independent sources.

You can comment the TRNN report if you want.

[mag1k2]

Grgna

Georgia is the one that initiated the media war... Even Georgians understood that the war against Russia was just a facade put on for the international community. Sakashvili put his people in harms way for the sole purpose of starting a media war.

Iralki

Objectivity is looking past the masses which are lead by mainstream sources like CNN, FOX, etc. .... Considering the viewpoint of this video contradicts their stance, this video is pretty objective.

[ilakri]

Contradicting or not with CNN, FOX viewpoint cannot be use as the measure for objectivity.

But on other hand it suspiciously matches only with Russians viewpoint.

They (TRNN) never mentioned third part opinion. Such are independent organizations: HRW etc. That is why Im thinking that report is not objective, and it is very pro-Russian and many facts are simply wrong (I already mentioned important one).

[theguy2882]

at least these people got the facts on this issue. This issue was alot alike what happened in Mexico before the Mexican American war. This issue was one of the clearest pieces of how stupid the american public truely is. They are controlled by the media in the U.S.

[ilakri]

Guliashvili has very poor judgment. Shame that real news interview him.

[sant178]

Score ar aris kaci?? Simartle tkva!!

[dwbush777]

This is complete and utter bullsh*t!

[tubegeg]

Great report by the real news. They showed both sides of the conflict. Corporate media only show one-side and demonize Russia for this conflict despite facts that Georgia started this war by first attacking Russian security along the border of South Ossetia. Corporate media which is lead by political ideologue and pundits blamed Russia like they had just attack the state of Georgia. The politicians were not much better.

[monzterrr]

good report. showing situation from different sides.

keep up

[Mavlik]

Saakashvili is a USA supported murderer.

[morieli68]

What a crap. Not true at all.

[DerafsheKavian]

The news reporting on the Georgian event was so bizzare. The American media lead just an all out anti-truth campaign all throught. The European media followed the American lead for the first day or so, then realizing the public reaction, startrd putting the blame on Georgian government. The American public is so at the mercy of the media, and boy, the American media really rides them.

[KrasnayaArmada]

i don't even wanna try and wrap my brain around this junk

help mcains campaign and international cockwaving? that's too fucked up

[semigotbanned]

I can't argue the exact cause of the Georgian (in retrospect stupid)escalation

but one thing is sure, there had been very severe provocations going on on the Ossetian side, small casualties among Georgian police and military men, and attacks on drones were constant.

And obviously,Russia is full of shit, they lied about civilian casualties (dozens became thousands),they killed a couple journalists,etc

Russians justification is simple:Kosovo

Georgian:it's our territory

BOTH used cluster bombs!

[Unity012]

stfu u stupid neocon imperialist Obama/Bush bot.

[anonforuz]

hahah now thats an insult I have never seen before. *thumbs up*

[polygamous1]

the florida man who's wife was iuncided to talk to CNN they expect3d her to say Anti Russian But once she started talking the truth she was cut off! twice how dare she say the truth! a joke of a free news free so long as u say what we want to hear same as many radio stations st least w have the BBC here a LOT fairer than money channels except channel 4 they are really good

[charr05]

is anyone worried that the Georgian journalist interviewed is just a pawn of Russia?

I mean, if the U.S. can have pawns 5,000 miles away, why can Russia not have pawns next door?

[polygamous1]

some of the many news we never se in the so called western news because thy are OWNED BY MONEY MEN LIKE THE CNN "news" about thwe distruction supposedly the Russians did in a georgian city But in reality the footage was coppied from a Russian reporter on the real distruction of S ossedia capital true they never tell us the truth

[TheMaineShag]

does anyone know who actually started the fighting?> any independent news source figure this out?

[MrMP81]

Yea, Georgia did.

Google " Georgia Started The War "

You'll get sources from NYTimes, La Monde ( French Paper ) etc.

[Kisspak17]

Out of office soon

[Northern5tar]

With Obama leaning towards the "brzezinski doctrine" things in Georgia and the wider region are bound to become heated up again.

[yellowcakewalk]

Saakashvili: evil USA/Israeli puppet or merely a striped-ass baboon? Inquiring minds want to know.

[addictfan]

Good luck coming up with an answer to that riddle.

[MuslimGhost]

Be silent you annoying little jewish girl

[peymaania]

I hope you and yellowcakewalk are forced into an arranged marriage with a "NO DIVORCE" clause! You are both destined to enjoy each others company for life.

[MuslimGhost]

Sakashvili is a disgusting pathetic assclown- a druggie and a us/israeli stooge.

[peymaania]

Anyone who knows an anecdote of Mullah Nasreddin is alright by me! =)

[Naqib777]

his stories are so funny

[peymaania]

Genocide, as in genome and genomics, and genes. To kill the gene. Something you should

not do, unless you really really know what you

are doing.

[Mojo1982]

Great programme, very informative and objective. Saakashviili has been abandoned by the West, he is seen by Europe and America as "damaged goods". Not to mention a loose cannon, the Georgia-South Ossetia War has damaged the image of US and EU invincibility. As JFK succintly said: "success has a thousand fathers, failure is an orphan".

[leninstreet]

Another miscalculation by Cheney. Gambling on this level can get you broke really fast.

[indocileman]

Malkhaz Guliashvili Is Russian ass licker

Fuck you Malkhaz Guliashvili

Fuck Russia and Fuck the all Russians ass lickers!

Saakashvili is patriot president!

[indocileman]

Go Saakashvili Go

Fuck Russia!

[Kartl1an]

If Saakashvili gives up, Georgia will be lost, forever!

Criminal would lead the country like before saakashvili!

Russian goverment invested last year 50 million USD in georgian Opposition!

Russia want's their Puppet in Georgian Goverment!

Saakashvili, please don't give up!

[TheAnarchist33]

Saakashvili is a US/NATO puppet!

[Repentier]

better Nato/US Puppet than russian puppet.

US/NATO means: better Economy, better democracy, International Fame/=Tourists! better Military..and and and.

Russian Puppet means: Criminality, Corruption, no democracy, loosing Territory and all that bad stuff!

so what's bad about being US Puppet?

[Swansen03]

um .... thats simple, NOT BEING A PUPPET AT ALL

[semigotbanned]

"um .... thats simple, NOT BEING A PUPPET AT ALL"

yeah, fucking ELECT A THIRD PARTY PRESIDENT in your country,, thats fucking simple isn't it????

fucking dumb shit..

[Swansen03]

semigotbanned what the hell are you talking about, electing a third party president while it would be a great thing, has nothing to do with this situation, you are a moron, you've proven that. Almost all problems in our world stem from a lack of proper education at all levels, this goes for the US and thick headed people who won't do their own research and find real answers, as well as the Georgians, or anywhere else.

[semigotbanned]

"semigotbanned what the hell are you talking about"

about you being a fucking dumb shit

if you think that there's a third way if there are TONS OF CASH and intervention pouring in from two sides than you're a fucking lunatic and a retard

(the political situation in the US is quite similar)

just TRY to think a little bit before you talk, maybe it'll help

[Swansen03]

your ether 5 or 10, can't really tell, but your language shows your intelligence. (hmm... i can't think of anything intellectual to say, so something vulgar will do to replace my lack of intelligence) UM YES, ITS JUST LIKE I F'N SAID, there is always a third way, don't feed me that defeatist bullcrap, your not thinking period. NATO is not the force for good it is said to be, its corrupt, being independent is a much better idea right now. Seriously though, i have no idea what your even arguing

[semigotbanned]

@Swansen03

"i have no idea what your even arguing"

are you a level 5 moron?

I'm just saying that you're fucking stupid, that all I'm saying.

but let me clear, again, you can start pointing fingers to others when you'll elect a non-corporate puppet, third party candidate in your own damn republic.

understood, fucking retarded hypocrite?

it's not just not "simple", it's totally impossible.

[Swansen03]

wow, there it is, your blaming some one else for your problems, your political leaders are just as corrupt as ours, get over yourself, they contributed to the issue, it didn't arise from itself, he didn't have to accept any money, he did it of his own will.

[Swansen03]

so, for the third time, i'll explain, BETTER EDUCATION SAVES ALL, its that simple, advocate for a third party, inform people, don't be stagnate, and say, oh its impossible, it will never happen, your right, it won't because, YOUR NOT DOING ANYTHING. Your a defeatist, you blame others, and you don't want to do anything to solve problems. I'm done, i've made my point and you chosen ignorance, fine, this is a pointless argument.

[semigotbanned]

you don't believe your own crap, do you?

[semigotbanned]

unfortunately for you I ain't Georgian

so who the fuck am I blaming now and for what, you fucking clown? LOL

[TheAnarchist33]

There is not really a big difference between the two, the US are just better at covering their shit up. Swansen03 is right, they shouldn't be puppets, they should serve the people, not bankers and warlords. Anyway, there will be war between NATO and the Russo-Asian alliance, it is inevitable.

[HENN3H]

I absolutely agree ( nice agent Smith reference btw) The US is so hypocritical it can't be described in words. same thing with afghanistan and iraq. Saying terrorist started this war, tactfully forgetting to mention that the sole reason for these factions to have any respectible power. being the US funding they got back in the 80's. It's about oil, rich people and oil. We (being the western , "Civilised World" have a duty to put a stop to this crap.

[taraqivideo]

Saakashvili should immigrate to washington.

[AbtinX]

US backed dictators go to Florida :)

[NATEandtheMONKEY]

america will be a better and more enlightened place when somebody finally does away with fox news.

[udical]

becuse russian adopted too much of mongol moral and culture, not compatible with modern white race heritage, that why u are not welcomed everywhere

[NATEandtheMONKEY]

?? don't understand what you mean here or how it pertains to my comment.:)

[mtlsoul]

Natural gas pipelines, and a chance to cut off the area from Russia, It definetly sounds like Russia aggressed Georgia alright. Yup, our leaders would never lie about something like the reasons for a military action.

[michaelmage]

Excellent report. Excellent comments.

[GO2NU8]

Shell Or Exxon ? These events will be the ones that will escalate and intensify and end up as a catastrophic demise of the United States and the United Kingdom and then lead to WW3

[livinginlux]

Any reasonable consideration of this conflict needs to take into account Russia's role. Russia is for sure not blameless in the matter. Russia is known to prop up dictators in Belarus and North Korea, feed nuclear techonology to Iran, and sabotage the democratic process in Moldova and Ukraine. Ignoring Russia's role in destablizing the region is extremely partisan and myopic.

[lenkasp]

u have no idea of what ur talking abt

[TheAnarchist33]

Agreed, it's a poor version of the US!

[llshamelessll]

im sure this has something to do with the usa wanting to put missles there. we are surrounding russia with a missile shield. what would the usa do? our war mongers are at it again. the military industrial complex is going to get us all killed.

[TheAnarchist33]

They want war to profit from arms sales and they are pushing it BIGTIME!!!

[kassem43]

I hope the georgian people dont let up! Good video

[Realizalize]

that is somewhat I how Igot it from the start,

thanks to "leftist" newspapers!

[teloscaylos]

Very interesting.

[sircesare]

listen to the georgian people and understand what is going on in the area...

[n8iveidiot13]

we have and honestly... i think its just a sceme for them to get into nato...