you do realize the UK people are total morons that want lowered taxes and better medicare while burning down London which cost the government like more money then that would have cost to give them... they should be shot so a more intelligent generation can grow from their ashes :P
Permanantly blinding civilians would warrent a brutal beating of all police officers, since the cops won't go to jail for what they are doing to the protesters!
This is a very stupid move because there are people like myself who carry Class 4 handheld lasers that are FAR more powerful than the 5mW laser pointers that these cops carry, and they are easy to purchase. I also happen to carry my OD4+ laser glasses with me at all times. For those who don't know what that means, I can shine my 1200mW laser directly at my eyes and not suffer any optical damage. However, the cop who toyed with me could instantly go blind from a football field without glasses on.
This is not even remotely true. from an unofficial and fictional tv station. this hasn't even been mentioned by the authorities or the government at all. so this is politely a rumour with zero foundation. trolling to incite more hatrid to the police is a more accurate statement here.
@flagpoleeip I don't believe they were saying the US was morally superior than the UK, they clearly state at the end that the US most likely will fall down the slippery slope quicker and use these weapons against civilians.
I can already see this could potentially be lethal against people who have had a history of epilepsy or a history of seizures or strokes and other related health crap. No such thing as "non-lethal weapon".
... protesters and rioters are different idiots. they would be authorised to use tactics like these on protesters. Indeed we don't even allow batons on protestors unless provoked. These tactics should be allowed on rioters, rioters/looters/arsonists don't deserve to have vision
@BenFosterism@BenFosterism if you were right then most cops would be blinded & arrested because most riots are started by police. And most looters are police too.
@CenkIsAdorable no, you can't. Corrective surgery creates small scars which pull tissue together during the healing process and it has limits.
BURNING lasers that BLIND you actually burn your retinae out forever. This is not temporary: you will never see ever again once this happens. This is FIRE BURNING inside your eye balls cooking them. Gone forever.
Get it? Your eyes inside are BURNED TO BLACK CHARCOAL.
Hey Cenk, can't pepper spray blind people too? The US is already blinding it's citizens for peacefully protesting. That's some American exceptionalism right there ;)
@KingGigity Pepper spray (oleoresin capsicum) is simply an irritant that causes inflammation in the surrounding areas of the eye, which makes the victim tear up significantly and temporarily lose vision. However, pepper spray does not erode the cornea or scar the retina. Lasers do both. Hence why pepper spray is not a cruel or unnecessary deterrent but lasers are.
Cenk Uygur is too happy with his own voice. Let Ana speak out before breaking in with a statement that is, in no way true, "..lasers don't hurt your eyes.." ?! Cenk, trust me! It fucking destroys your eyes.. And be a gentlemen Cenk, it will fit you well :).. Ana, I think you are a talented anchor woman, that is smart and naturally beautiful, come to Europe, men will show you a lot of respect and love, over here :)
@ourorboros2, yeah, that's why I hate living in Europe; we have no free speech (web censorship, can't fly nazi flags if we want, etc.) its still free speech that Americans have.
In Europe, like the UK, we are slaves because we are 'subjects' not actual 'citizens' and we cannot own firearms.
If you shoot a robber in your house in the UK you are likely going to jail because the system is corrupt it favors slavery and criminality
firstly, i have no idea why you think i agree with anything you've written, secondly, the UK doesn't censor the internet, atleast not to my knowledge.
want to know what country is trying to censor the internet however? america, they are trying to pass laws currently that would allow big business to shut down websites if they feel their copyright has been infringed upon.
and we are citizens, we aren't subjects, not in any real sense of the word, the queen has no actual power.
on the point of guns, having a weapon that can kill people is not freedom, it has nothing to do with freedom and its honestly pitiful to see how many people seem to think that freedom is the ability to shoot other people.
if you hand guns out to everymoron who asks for one all you do is increase the number of easily accessible guns in circulation which in turn helps arm criminals and just increase the likelihood of you being shot.
@ourorboros2 That's why I admire the US's history, and will be moving there in less than two years.
Without the right to own a firearm you cannot defend yourself effectively against the criminal element in society or the government itself, as Americans had to.
The fact is the system recognizes the queen in both the UK and Canada as the sovereign, Canada's constitution explicitly states as much...so you're okay with that. That's fucking crazy
have fun, you will moving to a country that actively opposes healthcare for the masses and who penalise their presidential candidates if they aren't christian not that that matters because they're all owned by wallstreet.
im ok with the queen because she doesn't do anything and brings in millions of pounds of tourism every year, she's great for our economy, the whole family are.
oh yes also have fun over there with the censored internet where you cant even use google or youtube, im sure it will add to your freedom of speech.
and again, on the topic of firearms, they dont make you free, they merely increase the rates of people getting killed by firearms and chances are its not the criminals getting shot, its the idiots with no firearm training who get disarmed in seconds and provide their attacker with a gun to shoot them with.
@ourorboros2 lmfao projection 101...America is one of the last places where i can search what i want on the web, that bill isn't going to become law, and I can fly whatever flag I want, und so weiter.
Only a pathetic slave isn't allowed to own guns; the first and only gun laws throughout much of history prohibited the slaves from owning guns, loser.
You love being a slave and that's what you're happy being a subject to your royal anus in Fagland. I'm getting the hell out!
you can fly any flag you want in england too moron...no one cares, infact two years ago some muslim extremists burned a poppy on remembrance sunday, our police protected them from the mob of Brits trying to rip them apart.
i dont know why you think British internet is censored either, its not, i cant obviously speak for germany as i dont know but the only censorship in regards to the internet in england is that websites containing child porn are blocked.
@ourorboros2 Oh it is censored here, and I'm speaking about Europe in an overbroad way, I'm not always necessarily speaking about one particular shithole here.
actually germany has the strongest censorship rules of any EU country so take it up with your own country, not the EU and im talking about Britain because these lasers are being developed in Britain, for Britain.
its only the neo-left like yourself who delude yourselves into this idiotic thinking that this has some world relevance, go join occupy whatever it is and accomplish nothing.
and yeah, england probably has some laws somewhere which you could say are against human rites, we have allot of stupid laws dating back hundreds of years, did you know its law in britain that if policeman must over pregnant woman their hat to use as a toilet if the woman is too far from a public toilette?
it doesn't mean the law is actually acknowledged it simply means that somewhere in history it was law and we never bothered to get rid of it.
and once again, you, much like so many of you occupy idiots, dont actually understand half of what you're talking about, yes we have a queen, she has no actual power, makes no actual laws and simply brings in allot tourists. if you wish to think we're slaves because we cherish our heritage go for it, America barely has any heritage to cherish what with it only being stolen from the natives a few hundred years ago.
no she doesn't have power and infact the paper says otherwise, our bill of rights, the document that makes us a constitutional democracy means the queen is at best an advisor.
she has no power, please learn atleast something about a countries politics before tring to insinuate things you clearly have no knowledge of.
also, the UK kings and queens didn't kill 6 million people through deathcamps and we have allot to be proud of.
not really, i fully accept that had the colonies and yes they killed people, they also started the crusades and the inquisition, this is part of our history, whether good or bad we cherish it.
however what england didn't do was elect a mad man to power out of desperation who then brainwashed a nation to perform one of the greatest atrocities in modern history.
@ourorboros2 Death rate means nothing for two reason:
1. Comparatively the US has far more people and cities etc.
2. I'd rather live there and be free than a European slave for much longer.
No, you didn't elect them did you?...they were royalty and they locked up thousands of Americans, for example, during the revolution in the hulls of ships to die. Murdered whole tribes of Indians, etc
!. you clearly dont understand death rates, its per 100'000 people as i mentioned, it doesn't matter whether there are a million or 50 million people, the death rate wont be effected.
tell me, how are you slave in Europe? so far all you've said is the internet is censored, wow, go back to the 1800's and see what actual slavery is.
besides, in the EU, or atleast England, i have freedom of speech whether or not its on any of our laws, my police dont brutally beat me for protesting.
1, owning a firearm doesn't make you free just as having a torture pit with sulferic acid baths in the basement doesn't make you free.
2. cant comment, i dont know how things are done in germany.
3. finance and world economy has nothing to do with freedom.
also that last point again doesn't stand, as i've said, its per 100'000 people, the actual population makes no difference, please learn simple sociology.
@ourorboros2 sociology is against you here, for beliefs, number of people impovershed, etc, all play a role in criminal behavior...and the US and UK aren't comparable.
1. Owning a firearm allows me to be more self-sufficient, defend myself.
3. OMG, that's nuts. Bankers, IFIs and how your respective government interacts with them and regulates them has EVERYTHING to do with freedom.
firstly, owning a firearm in no way allows you to be self-sufficient, owning a farm with a wind turbine and water treatment facility would allow you to be self sufficient and no guns to protect you, they simply give you attacker a weapon to harm you with.
secondly, once more, world economics has nothing to do with freedom. whether or not a business earns billions or a few thousand has nothing to do with freedom.
you seem to have no understand of what freedom is.
no, a weapon does not allow you defend yourself against an assailant it merely allows an assailant to easily arm themselves and then turn the weapon on you or better yet your assailant merely has a gun himself so he can be free as well.
all you in essence cause is an arms race between criminals and citizens as each ones tries to one up themselves against the other. it leads to nothing but loss of life or injury.
@ourorboros2 yeah, and at least if the law-abiding citizen can legally own a gun too they might have a chance.
The gun issue is more a fact than an opinion, and they aren't going anywhere where I'm going, so that discussion can end, but Im curious as to why you think the EU has no bearing on our freedom? ROFL
no, they dont have a chance, the average person is not trained to use firearms and is easily disarmed, what gives them a chance is not letting either them nor the criminal get a firearm, granted criminal will always break the law, thats part of being a criminal however it severely hinders their ability to keep a firearm.
i was expecting you'd go for the training argument, i didn't want to mention it earlier as i was open you'd be smarter but oh well.
if people are required to train in order in order to protect themselves those unable to train are in essence dead, you built a society based around self preservation and self reliance, while not bad necessarily it is barbaric in its thinking.
@ourorboros2 Yeah, we need more R&D into new energy, at least switch to natural gas for the time being...but it is by no means established that climate change is caused by humans..it's only established that we're contributing.
Nah, someone with just practice shooting and hunting has a better chance than if they had nothing
But that's okay, you just like slavery and that's probably your 'heritage' expressing itself...you guys started the 'Triangle Slave Trade"
@1stLtDavis I've got to agree with the other guy your right to keep and bear arms is perhaps the most backwards thing your country has got next to attempting to be world police
@BenFosterism it's not my country, but will be when I move there. The right to effectively defend yourself from both the criminal element of society as well as potential government abuse is nearly beautiful.
Americans are so incredibly free compared to us slaves in Europe, especially here in Germany
As far as I'm concerned the instant police shoot protesters in the eyeballs to blind them, we the people have the legal 100% right to shoot all the cops dead with machine guns. We are LEGALLY OBLIGATED to do so as an act of counter-terrorism.
@ytgv3fc7 "to shoot all the cops dead with machine guns" That's like saying, because one protester threw a bottle, now all protesters must die or be arrested or a vigilantes. Your statement is ludicrous. This will not be used by the UK police, trust me. It would receive too much outcry from the general public.
@ytgv3fc7 Agreed 100%, I'm not in America yet, but my job (working for Northorp Gruman) allows me to transfer there and I've already got a woman to marry in the US..so citizenship here I come.
I can't wait to get out of Europe...I mean both the US and EU are in trouble but you probably have no idea how lucky you are to be in the US to ride out this storm
@1stLtDavis good luck. I'm in Canada and I will never go to the USA for any amount of money. The US is the CENTER of the storm, you'll ride out nothing there. This is Empire Collapse. If not Canada, the next best places to run are Brazil and Iceland.
@ytgv3fc7 If they want a little piss ant like Iceland, they'll get it. The US is seeing the massive security grid being implemented (over at least the last decade) because it's so big, there are so many guns, and they really really want it because of its capacity to produce tremendous amounts of wealth...still the largest economy in the world along with the EU bloc
@ytgv3fc7 We are doing fine. The government are considering allowing live fire to control riots. Also this laser crap was all just a rumor which was made by the new paper companies .
In England we do have guns which are availably to special anti terrorist police or the armed response units.
We as a country do fine even if we are a nanny country.We have prevented many terrorist attacks over the years.
@ScottiesVlog fake terrorist attacks. As it happens the police shot people in the UK who weren't terrorists & then just pretended they were. Unarmed, no bombs or guns, nothing.
@ytgv3fc7 Thats not true. The person the police officer shot was not posing any terrorist threat but was in a gang. The truth is no one knows why he got shot because the officer isn't telling the truth and there isn't enough witnesses to make up the full story .
The police have stopped many terrorist attacks such as a school boy who went abit crazy , deiced to make a bomb and attempted to bomb a terrorist attraction but was stopped and arrested on his way..
"As it happens the police shot people in the UK who weren't terrorists & then just pretended they were"
dude, you do realise our police officers are never armed normally, to warrant police even carrying guns require extreme circumstances, they couldn't just shoot innocent people because they wouldn't have the firepower in order to do so.
hell we dont even give them tazers, last time i saw a tazer used was for a manhunt of a serial killer in the countryside.
also how do you justify america being economically free? is it because big business is allowed to run rampant?
less laws governing big business means they abuse their employees, paying them terrible wages, giving them terrible working conditions, transforming their employees into slaves.
and its beholden to other countries or the kyoto protocols? wow, so they pollute more and dont work with other countries wow...
@ourorboros2 Pollute? Most of the US's coal plants emit nothing more than water vapor and some CO2, so what, so do cars.
No, they aren't beholden to any countries the way I currently am in Germany...with more than one other European shitole demanding that we bail them out.
huh...what about all the CFC's and what not? not to mention its CO2 which we are trying to eliminate, once more, this is off topic, pollution has no bearing on freedom.
and just because america chooses not to work with other countries doesn't mean you become free because you live there. once more, world economics has no bearing on freedom.
and again onto the point of the deathrates, when you take everything down to a set number like with the deathrates i provided total population means nothing as levels of crime also become comparative to the 100'000 people.
yes crime rate will effect it however gun crime is part of that crime rate, more guns, more gun crime, its literally as simple as that, its basic logic.
once more, the problems of the past have nothing to do with current freedom, all i said was that the British are proud of our heritage, whether bad or good is beside the point.
the point is about freedom and you have this odd belief that america is free because its citizens can shoot each other, this makes no sense and is at best idiotic.
@ourorboros2 if you can't kill you will be killed. That's the law of freedom: you kill to keep your freedom and you die if you can't kill. All nature is always like this forever. Criminals are never armed by lawful guns: only by lawful REMOVAL of guns to the general public. You are most likely to be shot if you can never legally have a gun. FIRST BY POLICE, second by criminals. You reduce BOTH to near zero by having your own. and ONLY by that means.
if you read the rest of the article they are training people to use plastic bullets and planning on buying water cannons... because the UK police aren't armed as standard... because over here we dont like hurting and killing our people even if they are commiting a crime much less after the fact. So I don't see how theres any correlation between here and the US in that regard.
Also its not a freedom of speech if you are causing mass destruction and burning shopping centres down because one drug dealer got shot and people wanted an excuse to fuck shit up.
The reason they are doing it here is because in America you protest for relevant reasons. The London riots here were nothing but mass vandalism and looting over absolutely nothing.
It's in response to rioters, not peaceful protest....last time I looked burning down somebody elses house, whilst they're still inside, looting somebody elses store and generally destroying other peoples property was nothing to do with free speech.
Sometimes I feel TYT assumes every country must naturally conform to how things may go in the US. Police consider using lasers...therefore it must mean it'll be used against peaceful protesters and blind you for life. No jumping to conclusions..
Maybe I'm being naive but I really think this was a product of discussions about how to better handle riot situations such as the ones earlier this year, rather than to do with protestors
1) This will probably not pass in the UK. 2) Americans once again show their hypocrisy since criminals in the UK do get treated better then occupy protesters exercising their 1st amendment. The rioting morons that destroyed private property just for fun were treated like royalty over here. Once again TYT knows nothing of UK social problems
@markbrighten they've been using gas and riot gear to the protesters in the US over the past 6 months, you don't think they will use this on protesters....what's your precedent
@klowdz1 Oh yes, I love that satisfying moment when someone speaks stupidity in it's purest form. You didn't think the UK was Scotland did you? The UK is made up of England, Northen Ireland Scotland and Wales. Your ignorance is my bliss. But yes, burgers are delicious - but America did not invent them? So what is your point....
I am against it, but don't compare it to police brutality against your occupy protesters. We have occupy camps all over the place, and there hasn't been any trouble (except the one in London, there's always trouble in London). The one in Edinburgh was asked to move so they could put up the Christmas decorations, and in return they will get a platform to speak from. These measures are for riots rather than protesters, but guaranteed the London police will fuck it up.
It will be like tazers MOST of the time they don't kill people but sometimes they do, MOST of the time they will temporarily blind people and sometimes that persons vision just won't come back.
TO ALL YOU IDIOTIC BRITS WHO COMPLACENTLY ACCEPT POLICE BRUTALITY AND THINK I AM AN AMERICAN WHO IS CONFUSING OWS WITH THE UK RIOTS, PLEASE WATCH DLANDONCOLE'S EXPLANATION OF THE UK RIOTS. If you are in favor of the police having the power to permanently blind you, then you are stupid enough to deserve to live the rest of your life blind, you stupid FEBS!
This is why you SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS! Because even the authorities who claim to protect you will be the ones who destroy you........ Such as the police!
rubber bullets, and live ammo in rare incidents to deal with extremely violent people, because there were a lot of attempted murders in this years riots also a couple of people were killed.
''as a western democracy we would hope that they would you-know, not blind their protesters''- says the country that still uses the death plenty and who's police Carry's guns, i don't know where tyt gets its sources from because i have read the newspapers and watched the news on this subject and have not heard of Lasers being considered, what is being said by Official sources is that if another large scale riot occurs like the recent one the police will consider using water cannons, continued--
@jamie123ginge Do you really think Cenk supports the Death Penalty, or Police brutality, just because it happens in America does not mean every American supports it.
I can't believe that my favorite field of Physics, and the one in which I am pursuing a professional career, Lasers, is being used to hurt people ... it used to be that only politics would get me depressed, now the applications of my own field of study is depressing me.
I build Class 4 Lasers as my career, I accidently got flashed once in the lab and though it missed my eye, it burned my eyelid and I couldn't see for a week. This is dangerous stuff. If their intent is to temporarily blind, they may just try to burn the outer cornea, but it will take a few weeks of sitting in the dark and serious medical intervention to recover. However, since they will be using Visible wavelengths, and there is a REAL threat to damage the retina, which would be PERMANENT!!!
At least our police don't carry guns, and need to stop going on about my country as if we are people without freedom of speech and choice, when you obviously don't know, so tell me what laws are you telling me that are drastically different that supposedly permit our police to act uncivilised and savage like?
@ourorboros2, Err wrong answer...I'll tell you what happens then.
As an American and free man, I grab the nearest firearm and I attempt to shoot and kill the robber...
You, on the other hand, plead for mercy while he rapes your wife and knocks your teeth in....why? Because you are a disarmed slave, a subject to your royal anus.
@Driv3ItLikeUStoleIt I stayed on topic, saying many governments that advocate freedom of speech only enforce it when it's politically convenient for them.
Shias complaining? That sounds like what Republicans say about OWS. Why are you complaining? Go work.
CIA and many independent probes publicly claim there was no link b/w Bahrain protests and Iran government. TYT talked about it. Shia didn't want to topple anything until they got shot at. I know people who were in the protests.
I can find the site that has.IR at the end that had more than 2k volunteers for suicide bombing in Bahrain. I have relatives their, they had to make patrols to protect the neighborhoods it more of a riot than a protest, what kind of protest that invades hospitals and universities!!? And to show how true your claims are you mentioned the CIA lol,
@Driv3ItLikeUStoleIt lol yeah, but it's a slippery slope to pick n chose which protests are legit and which are not, u know what I mean? Govm shouldn't be using the laser to say, okay Tea Part is legit, OWS has drug users/bottle throwers and is not legit.
Western police shouldn't have more harmful tools to shut down protests They deem illegitimate. Some ppl say OWS is all leftwing extrimists and their entire message should be supressed.
common man even if the I'm protesting for something(which I see it far from possible) I dnt want to C my family getting hurt in school and my neighbors cars getting burned just so I/other people make their point. its easy to judge and reckon a riot or a violating protest from a peaceful one.Two cops died and a lot seriously injured while trying to move pple from th 1st protest in Bahrain when they blocked a main intersection.common give me a break I will shoot F I was a cop
@Driv3ItLikeUStoleIt yup, i know, but there's always bad ppl hijacking protests. Emotions run high, authoritarian government feels threatened and protesters start doing dumb things. Then it becomes legitimate to shoot into a crowd of protesters, many of whom are peaceful?
It's hard to say, cuz every protest has ppl saying, oh this is just non-sense/thugs/rioters/dumbasses ever since protests existed in history. Mexico, S. America, Ottomans, etc
@ttzz2003 dude the london rioters weren't trying to make a political point, they were trying to steal as many games consoles and trainers as they could and mob mentality caused a few to think it would be fun to set buildings on fire.
it wasn't about world politics, it wasn't about the recession, it wasn't about the government and it wasn't even about the guy who got shot in totenham.
@ourorboros2 yes i know, it is legit to protect the people, but the laser can be easily turned on peaceful protesters and cause them permanent harm. As soon as we give police the go-ahead, they're gonna use it to the fullest extent, like the UAV in Wisconsin or whatever
try to remember though, we're talking about england, not america, i have no doubt that when america gets their hands on this that opticians will be rolling in money due to all their new clients however the English police do not abuse protesters, they do not brutally attack citizens and most of all wouldn't even be given the choice to.
if this was developed it will never actually be seen unless in severe circumstances.
@ourorboros2 yeah I get that they don't want that riot to happen again. it's costly.
Don't they already use these two weapons, one that emits very intense directional sound wave, and the other that emits a wave that penetrates skin slightly and causes enormous pain, as non-lethal crowd dispersers?
its not that its costly, yes thats a pain and it means that the government has less money to help improve education and othersuch but rather the reason most people in england are angry about is the fact thats it was simply a bunch of selfish thugs taking what they could, we dont want it to happen again because lost their homes, their business' and their lives.
as for the two weapons you talked of, i've never heard of them before and much less seen them in use, they certainly weren't used in the riots.
you need to understand, our police aren't armed, they dont even get issued stun guns unless its extreme circumstances and even then only specially trained people are allowed to use them.
It its accidentally strong enough it WILL permanently blind people.
Laser is,as we all know, concentrated light. The eye focus light on the retina to see stuff, but if a strong enough laser hits your eye the retina will build up heat and instantly pop and you will be permanently blinded for life.
I heard about this when I was in the army because the Chinese have shoulder mounted weapons like these.
The UK used weaker lasers in the Falklands war vs air.
@Saaduk92 Sure, so the better response to the UK riots is to hurt the people more, rather than improving their situation so that they have enough hope in the UK gov't not to protest, /watch?v=vq0QvP8Doqk watch?v=J4ZwKcYY72M
@Saaduk92 Does Saaduk92 not realize that Cenk never mentioned OWS in the video, only the potential of American Police copying UK Police. get a freakin clue.
And do you not realise that within the first 30 seconds both Cenk and Ana stated that these would be used on protesters? YOU need to "get a freakin clue".
I also love how you pretend to have a deep understanding on the riots just because you watched two videos on them by Landon. One explained why using the army was a bad idea (which no one was asking for!) and the other pretended that there was a racial element which wasn't the case at all (TYT did this too).
Oh, and read the title of the video. "Laser to blind protesters", not "Laser to blind rioters", with the latter actually being the thing it's developed for.
@Saaduk92 The slippery slope argument applies here because both Tazers and Pepper spray were originally developed for extreme occasions only, but as we have seen across the world, they are being used to stop protesters not rioter. Perhaps, in the UK, the police may not slide down that slippery slope, but as Cenk correctly predicted, police in the good-ole USA will quickly slide down that slope and use it as casually Lt. John Pike sprayed the UC Davis students.
@expertcreatormo I build Class 4 lasers and accidently got flashed by a diffuse 20W beam. My blink response prevented the light from getting in my eye, but the fact that it burned my eyelid swelled up my eye and I couldn't be in the light, or focus for a week. This is no small matter. Lasers are not to be used as weapons against those practicing their freedom of speech.
@Ragitsu You have to know the wavelength they are using, and Laser goggles are only for protection of diffuse laser light, not a direct beam, and seriously, why should we have to practice our freedom of speech under the consideration of which type of laser safety goggles to purchase. Also, laser goggles are quite pricey, at least $100 a pop.
WTF, I didn't even realise they were talking about my country until 1:11. What's wrong with you, Britain?! I thought you were LESS crazy than America!!
you do realize the UK people are total morons that want lowered taxes and better medicare while burning down London which cost the government like more money then that would have cost to give them... they should be shot so a more intelligent generation can grow from their ashes :P
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haha..sharks with laser beans on their heads.. all of the sudden i feel like watching Austin Power!
SummerInTahoe 1 month ago
Permanantly blinding civilians would warrent a brutal beating of all police officers, since the cops won't go to jail for what they are doing to the protesters!
RyunSharp 1 month ago
Guys you don't understand . The rioters destroyed shit loads of buildings and even burnt done a sony warehouse.
Rioters are scum and should be shot .
Also the UK are thinking about using live fire against rioters.. Thats how bad the riots were.
ScottiesVlog 1 month ago
This is a very stupid move because there are people like myself who carry Class 4 handheld lasers that are FAR more powerful than the 5mW laser pointers that these cops carry, and they are easy to purchase. I also happen to carry my OD4+ laser glasses with me at all times. For those who don't know what that means, I can shine my 1200mW laser directly at my eyes and not suffer any optical damage. However, the cop who toyed with me could instantly go blind from a football field without glasses on.
MelkorHimself 1 month ago
This is not even remotely true. from an unofficial and fictional tv station. this hasn't even been mentioned by the authorities or the government at all. so this is politely a rumour with zero foundation. trolling to incite more hatrid to the police is a more accurate statement here.
lightningpete 2 months ago
@lightningpete Um, theres a news article in the description...
nibblerseven 1 month ago
Come on now.
Basic science will tell you that a laser to the eye WILL do damage just like the tasers do damage.
Both are items used in surgery do controlled damage to achieve a positive outcome.
I just thank God that my illness should get my off this stupid, doomed rock before the end of next year before shit really goes crazy.
skeletorphd 2 months ago
wtf are those subs lol
ShiShKeBobb 2 months ago
how many americans were shot and killed by police last year? how many brits? anyone see the US police pepper spraying peaceful protesters?
it's quite a vantage point you have to take the moral high ground.
flagpoleeip 2 months ago
@flagpoleeip I don't believe they were saying the US was morally superior than the UK, they clearly state at the end that the US most likely will fall down the slippery slope quicker and use these weapons against civilians.
loveofphysics 2 months ago
UK please don't give the US ideas.....
TheCreeperhunter 2 months ago
"when injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty" - thomas jefferson
bluizdacolor 2 months ago
I can already see this could potentially be lethal against people who have had a history of epilepsy or a history of seizures or strokes and other related health crap. No such thing as "non-lethal weapon".
FuryFlurry1 2 months ago
Ride out the storm in the US? Lol!
darthorpheus 2 months ago
Then again,
the U.K. may NOT begin testing lasers to temporarily blind rioters.
bobbytiger 2 months ago
*Northrop Grumman* ...english is sadly not my first language
1stLtDavis 2 months ago
You have to be an ASS HAT to believe this blinding will be TEMPORARY.
It will be PERMANENT just like other damage from police.
From bone-breaking beatings to LRAD weapons, the damage will NEVER heal and you will be DISABLED FOR LIFE.
ytgv3fc7 2 months ago in playlist 1 2011 12dec 19
... protesters and rioters are different idiots. they would be authorised to use tactics like these on protesters. Indeed we don't even allow batons on protestors unless provoked. These tactics should be allowed on rioters, rioters/looters/arsonists don't deserve to have vision
BenFosterism 2 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks 2
@BenFosterism @BenFosterism if you were right then most cops would be blinded & arrested because most riots are started by police. And most looters are police too.
ytgv3fc7 2 months ago in playlist 1 2011 12dec 19
"There's no way they can shoot a laser into your eyes and not hurt your eyes"
Um, can't you get like corrective lasik surgery to help them?
CenkIsAdorable 2 months ago
@CenkIsAdorable no, you can't. Corrective surgery creates small scars which pull tissue together during the healing process and it has limits.
BURNING lasers that BLIND you actually burn your retinae out forever. This is not temporary: you will never see ever again once this happens. This is FIRE BURNING inside your eye balls cooking them. Gone forever.
Get it? Your eyes inside are BURNED TO BLACK CHARCOAL.
ytgv3fc7 2 months ago
@ytgv3fc7 Dude, you're at an 8, you wanna bring it down back to a 4?
CenkIsAdorable 2 months ago
@CenkIsAdorable no, I'd like to take it to 100.
ytgv3fc7 2 months ago
@ytgv3fc7 Angry much?
CenkIsAdorable 2 months ago
@CenkIsAdorable if you're not angry you're asleep
ytgv3fc7 2 months ago
Hey Cenk, can't pepper spray blind people too? The US is already blinding it's citizens for peacefully protesting. That's some American exceptionalism right there ;)
KingGigity 2 months ago 12
@KingGigity Pepper spray (oleoresin capsicum) is simply an irritant that causes inflammation in the surrounding areas of the eye, which makes the victim tear up significantly and temporarily lose vision. However, pepper spray does not erode the cornea or scar the retina. Lasers do both. Hence why pepper spray is not a cruel or unnecessary deterrent but lasers are.
MelkorHimself 1 month ago
CAN YOU SAY MIRRORS?
MrGOTAMA420 2 months ago
Cenk Uygur is too happy with his own voice. Let Ana speak out before breaking in with a statement that is, in no way true, "..lasers don't hurt your eyes.." ?! Cenk, trust me! It fucking destroys your eyes.. And be a gentlemen Cenk, it will fit you well :).. Ana, I think you are a talented anchor woman, that is smart and naturally beautiful, come to Europe, men will show you a lot of respect and love, over here :)
cphstreet 2 months ago
@ourorboros2, yeah, that's why I hate living in Europe; we have no free speech (web censorship, can't fly nazi flags if we want, etc.) its still free speech that Americans have.
In Europe, like the UK, we are slaves because we are 'subjects' not actual 'citizens' and we cannot own firearms.
If you shoot a robber in your house in the UK you are likely going to jail because the system is corrupt it favors slavery and criminality
1stLtDavis 2 months ago
@1stLtDavis
firstly, i have no idea why you think i agree with anything you've written, secondly, the UK doesn't censor the internet, atleast not to my knowledge.
want to know what country is trying to censor the internet however? america, they are trying to pass laws currently that would allow big business to shut down websites if they feel their copyright has been infringed upon.
and we are citizens, we aren't subjects, not in any real sense of the word, the queen has no actual power.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@1stLtDavis
on the point of guns, having a weapon that can kill people is not freedom, it has nothing to do with freedom and its honestly pitiful to see how many people seem to think that freedom is the ability to shoot other people.
if you hand guns out to everymoron who asks for one all you do is increase the number of easily accessible guns in circulation which in turn helps arm criminals and just increase the likelihood of you being shot.
it doesn't make you free.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@ourorboros2 That's why I admire the US's history, and will be moving there in less than two years.
Without the right to own a firearm you cannot defend yourself effectively against the criminal element in society or the government itself, as Americans had to.
The fact is the system recognizes the queen in both the UK and Canada as the sovereign, Canada's constitution explicitly states as much...so you're okay with that. That's fucking crazy
1stLtDavis 2 months ago
@1stLtDavis
have fun, you will moving to a country that actively opposes healthcare for the masses and who penalise their presidential candidates if they aren't christian not that that matters because they're all owned by wallstreet.
im ok with the queen because she doesn't do anything and brings in millions of pounds of tourism every year, she's great for our economy, the whole family are.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@1stLtDavis
oh yes also have fun over there with the censored internet where you cant even use google or youtube, im sure it will add to your freedom of speech.
and again, on the topic of firearms, they dont make you free, they merely increase the rates of people getting killed by firearms and chances are its not the criminals getting shot, its the idiots with no firearm training who get disarmed in seconds and provide their attacker with a gun to shoot them with.
have fun.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@ourorboros2 lmfao projection 101...America is one of the last places where i can search what i want on the web, that bill isn't going to become law, and I can fly whatever flag I want, und so weiter.
Only a pathetic slave isn't allowed to own guns; the first and only gun laws throughout much of history prohibited the slaves from owning guns, loser.
You love being a slave and that's what you're happy being a subject to your royal anus in Fagland. I'm getting the hell out!
1stLtDavis 2 months ago
@1stLtDavis
you can fly any flag you want in england too moron...no one cares, infact two years ago some muslim extremists burned a poppy on remembrance sunday, our police protected them from the mob of Brits trying to rip them apart.
i dont know why you think British internet is censored either, its not, i cant obviously speak for germany as i dont know but the only censorship in regards to the internet in england is that websites containing child porn are blocked.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@ourorboros2 Oh it is censored here, and I'm speaking about Europe in an overbroad way, I'm not always necessarily speaking about one particular shithole here.
1stLtDavis 2 months ago
@1stLtDavis
actually germany has the strongest censorship rules of any EU country so take it up with your own country, not the EU and im talking about Britain because these lasers are being developed in Britain, for Britain.
its only the neo-left like yourself who delude yourselves into this idiotic thinking that this has some world relevance, go join occupy whatever it is and accomplish nothing.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@1stLtDavis
and yeah, england probably has some laws somewhere which you could say are against human rites, we have allot of stupid laws dating back hundreds of years, did you know its law in britain that if policeman must over pregnant woman their hat to use as a toilet if the woman is too far from a public toilette?
it doesn't mean the law is actually acknowledged it simply means that somewhere in history it was law and we never bothered to get rid of it.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@1stLtDavis
and once again, you, much like so many of you occupy idiots, dont actually understand half of what you're talking about, yes we have a queen, she has no actual power, makes no actual laws and simply brings in allot tourists. if you wish to think we're slaves because we cherish our heritage go for it, America barely has any heritage to cherish what with it only being stolen from the natives a few hundred years ago.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@ourorboros2 Your heritage is being a slave to the royal sovereign, and on paper, at least in your 'former' dominion of Canada it still says it.
No, she has power, it's on paper, she just chooses not to exercise it.
Look at us Germans, we have forcefully forgotten and buried the days of empire, nazis, and the kaiser....The UK is fuckin proud of that ?!!
1stLtDavis 2 months ago
@1stLtDavis
no she doesn't have power and infact the paper says otherwise, our bill of rights, the document that makes us a constitutional democracy means the queen is at best an advisor.
she has no power, please learn atleast something about a countries politics before tring to insinuate things you clearly have no knowledge of.
also, the UK kings and queens didn't kill 6 million people through deathcamps and we have allot to be proud of.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@ourorboros2 That's not what your 'former' dominion of Canada's says.
No, the British have killed far more, from India, all over North America, and let's not forget Europe.
You are apparently a history revisionist, as well as a good slave. Way to go
1stLtDavis 2 months ago
@1stLtDavis
not really, i fully accept that had the colonies and yes they killed people, they also started the crusades and the inquisition, this is part of our history, whether good or bad we cherish it.
however what england didn't do was elect a mad man to power out of desperation who then brainwashed a nation to perform one of the greatest atrocities in modern history.
eitherway, the past nothing to do with freedom.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@1stLtDavis
oh yes, on the topics of guns and the suposed freedom it brings.
want to take a guess at the death rate per 100'000 people by country, comparing England, Germany and america?
5th on the list is america, with 15.22
a fair way down lies Germany with 1.57
and a bit further down is England with 0.46
yup, thats freedom alright, freedom to kill people.
if you had any understanding of true freedom you would realise guns for the most part the anti-thesis of freedom.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@ourorboros2 Death rate means nothing for two reason:
1. Comparatively the US has far more people and cities etc.
2. I'd rather live there and be free than a European slave for much longer.
No, you didn't elect them did you?...they were royalty and they locked up thousands of Americans, for example, during the revolution in the hulls of ships to die. Murdered whole tribes of Indians, etc
1stLtDavis 2 months ago
@1stLtDavis
!. you clearly dont understand death rates, its per 100'000 people as i mentioned, it doesn't matter whether there are a million or 50 million people, the death rate wont be effected.
tell me, how are you slave in Europe? so far all you've said is the internet is censored, wow, go back to the 1800's and see what actual slavery is.
besides, in the EU, or atleast England, i have freedom of speech whether or not its on any of our laws, my police dont brutally beat me for protesting.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@ourorboros2 I don't have freedom in Germany, and throughout Europe, because:
1. Cannot own a firearm period, or at least not without undue burdens.
2. Have limited if any freedom of speech, especially here in deutschland
3. Am in the fucking EU and have the rest of Europe begging for Germany (and even the UK) to help 'bail them out' of their financial troubles.
And in the US there are more people and more cities = more criminality
1stLtDavis 2 months ago
@1stLtDavis
1, owning a firearm doesn't make you free just as having a torture pit with sulferic acid baths in the basement doesn't make you free.
2. cant comment, i dont know how things are done in germany.
3. finance and world economy has nothing to do with freedom.
also that last point again doesn't stand, as i've said, its per 100'000 people, the actual population makes no difference, please learn simple sociology.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@ourorboros2 sociology is against you here, for beliefs, number of people impovershed, etc, all play a role in criminal behavior...and the US and UK aren't comparable.
1. Owning a firearm allows me to be more self-sufficient, defend myself.
3. OMG, that's nuts. Bankers, IFIs and how your respective government interacts with them and regulates them has EVERYTHING to do with freedom.
1stLtDavis 2 months ago
@1stLtDavis
firstly, owning a firearm in no way allows you to be self-sufficient, owning a farm with a wind turbine and water treatment facility would allow you to be self sufficient and no guns to protect you, they simply give you attacker a weapon to harm you with.
secondly, once more, world economics has nothing to do with freedom. whether or not a business earns billions or a few thousand has nothing to do with freedom.
you seem to have no understand of what freedom is.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@ourorboros2 Absolutely agree with you about the farm, but the gun allows me to more effectively defend myself from an array of potential assailants.
The US is far more free economically than Europe..the EU is garbage and picks on our respective countries to do all the work.
The US is not beholden to any other country save China to some degree (thanks Bill Clinton) and does not accept the Kyoto Protocol, usw, usw
1stLtDavis 2 months ago
@1stLtDavis
no, a weapon does not allow you defend yourself against an assailant it merely allows an assailant to easily arm themselves and then turn the weapon on you or better yet your assailant merely has a gun himself so he can be free as well.
all you in essence cause is an arms race between criminals and citizens as each ones tries to one up themselves against the other. it leads to nothing but loss of life or injury.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@ourorboros2 yeah, and at least if the law-abiding citizen can legally own a gun too they might have a chance.
The gun issue is more a fact than an opinion, and they aren't going anywhere where I'm going, so that discussion can end, but Im curious as to why you think the EU has no bearing on our freedom? ROFL
1stLtDavis 2 months ago
@1stLtDavis
no, they dont have a chance, the average person is not trained to use firearms and is easily disarmed, what gives them a chance is not letting either them nor the criminal get a firearm, granted criminal will always break the law, thats part of being a criminal however it severely hinders their ability to keep a firearm.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@ourorboros2 How, people make guns in basements as the French did machine guns in WW2!..and there are illegal imports, etc.
Training is available and trained or not they do have a chance...beats having a fucking bat!
1stLtDavis 2 months ago
@1stLtDavis
i was expecting you'd go for the training argument, i didn't want to mention it earlier as i was open you'd be smarter but oh well.
if people are required to train in order in order to protect themselves those unable to train are in essence dead, you built a society based around self preservation and self reliance, while not bad necessarily it is barbaric in its thinking.
its Darwinian at best.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@ourorboros2 Yeah, we need more R&D into new energy, at least switch to natural gas for the time being...but it is by no means established that climate change is caused by humans..it's only established that we're contributing.
Nah, someone with just practice shooting and hunting has a better chance than if they had nothing
But that's okay, you just like slavery and that's probably your 'heritage' expressing itself...you guys started the 'Triangle Slave Trade"
1stLtDavis 2 months ago
@1stLtDavis I've got to agree with the other guy your right to keep and bear arms is perhaps the most backwards thing your country has got next to attempting to be world police
BenFosterism 2 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
@BenFosterism it's not my country, but will be when I move there. The right to effectively defend yourself from both the criminal element of society as well as potential government abuse is nearly beautiful.
Americans are so incredibly free compared to us slaves in Europe, especially here in Germany
1stLtDavis 2 months ago
As far as I'm concerned the instant police shoot protesters in the eyeballs to blind them, we the people have the legal 100% right to shoot all the cops dead with machine guns. We are LEGALLY OBLIGATED to do so as an act of counter-terrorism.
ytgv3fc7 2 months ago in playlist 1 2011 12dec 19 20
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@ytgv3fc7 "to shoot all the cops dead with machine guns" That's like saying, because one protester threw a bottle, now all protesters must die or be arrested or a vigilantes. Your statement is ludicrous. This will not be used by the UK police, trust me. It would receive too much outcry from the general public.
TheSirPrise 2 months ago
@ytgv3fc7 Agreed 100%, I'm not in America yet, but my job (working for Northorp Gruman) allows me to transfer there and I've already got a woman to marry in the US..so citizenship here I come.
I can't wait to get out of Europe...I mean both the US and EU are in trouble but you probably have no idea how lucky you are to be in the US to ride out this storm
1stLtDavis 2 months ago
@1stLtDavis good luck. I'm in Canada and I will never go to the USA for any amount of money. The US is the CENTER of the storm, you'll ride out nothing there. This is Empire Collapse. If not Canada, the next best places to run are Brazil and Iceland.
ytgv3fc7 2 months ago
@ytgv3fc7 Haha, you think the big banks are going to let Iceland get away with not signing onto derivatives? No way.
The best place for me is the US because at least there I can be as independent as possible and arm myself.
1stLtDavis 2 months ago
@1stLtDavis YES WAY.
It's a done deal.
It's irreversible. Iceland said they can't be on the hook and it's in their constitution. Bankers beware.
the USA will see mass killings of civilians by police, 10 thousand at a time - you won't have enough guns.
They will use nerve gas.
Goodbye... you'll die in a ball of vomit before you ever reach for a gun.
ytgv3fc7 2 months ago
@ytgv3fc7 If they want a little piss ant like Iceland, they'll get it. The US is seeing the massive security grid being implemented (over at least the last decade) because it's so big, there are so many guns, and they really really want it because of its capacity to produce tremendous amounts of wealth...still the largest economy in the world along with the EU bloc
1stLtDavis 2 months ago
@ytgv3fc7 That won't happen as we have different laws in the UK and we don't have guns....
ScottiesVlog 1 month ago
@ScottiesVlog say Hello to slavery then. Or get some guns and shoot the terrorist cops.
ytgv3fc7 1 month ago
@ytgv3fc7 We are doing fine. The government are considering allowing live fire to control riots. Also this laser crap was all just a rumor which was made by the new paper companies .
In England we do have guns which are availably to special anti terrorist police or the armed response units.
We as a country do fine even if we are a nanny country.We have prevented many terrorist attacks over the years.
ScottiesVlog 1 month ago
@ScottiesVlog fake terrorist attacks. As it happens the police shot people in the UK who weren't terrorists & then just pretended they were. Unarmed, no bombs or guns, nothing.
ytgv3fc7 1 month ago
@ytgv3fc7 Thats not true. The person the police officer shot was not posing any terrorist threat but was in a gang. The truth is no one knows why he got shot because the officer isn't telling the truth and there isn't enough witnesses to make up the full story .
The police have stopped many terrorist attacks such as a school boy who went abit crazy , deiced to make a bomb and attempted to bomb a terrorist attraction but was stopped and arrested on his way..
ScottiesVlog 1 month ago
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@ytgv3fc7
"As it happens the police shot people in the UK who weren't terrorists & then just pretended they were"
dude, you do realise our police officers are never armed normally, to warrant police even carrying guns require extreme circumstances, they couldn't just shoot innocent people because they wouldn't have the firepower in order to do so.
hell we dont even give them tazers, last time i saw a tazer used was for a manhunt of a serial killer in the countryside.
ourorboros2 4 weeks ago
@ytgv3fc7 Well done sir. Actually...it's already way past that point. Get your gun loaded we're wasting time
SeriouslyPissedOff 1 month ago
@SeriouslyPissedOff Yup, too true. Okay, see you on the other side of the trenches, depending who makes it
ytgv3fc7 1 month ago
@BenFosterism You have only 1 choice:
the right to bear arms
or the gun in your mouth
There is no 3rd option. Never has been in all history.
ytgv3fc7 2 months ago in playlist 1 2011 12dec 19
@1stLtDavis
also how do you justify america being economically free? is it because big business is allowed to run rampant?
less laws governing big business means they abuse their employees, paying them terrible wages, giving them terrible working conditions, transforming their employees into slaves.
and its beholden to other countries or the kyoto protocols? wow, so they pollute more and dont work with other countries wow...
this once more doesn't effect you freedom.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@ourorboros2 Pollute? Most of the US's coal plants emit nothing more than water vapor and some CO2, so what, so do cars.
No, they aren't beholden to any countries the way I currently am in Germany...with more than one other European shitole demanding that we bail them out.
1stLtDavis 2 months ago
@1stLtDavis
huh...what about all the CFC's and what not? not to mention its CO2 which we are trying to eliminate, once more, this is off topic, pollution has no bearing on freedom.
and just because america chooses not to work with other countries doesn't mean you become free because you live there. once more, world economics has no bearing on freedom.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@1stLtDavis
and again onto the point of the deathrates, when you take everything down to a set number like with the deathrates i provided total population means nothing as levels of crime also become comparative to the 100'000 people.
yes crime rate will effect it however gun crime is part of that crime rate, more guns, more gun crime, its literally as simple as that, its basic logic.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@1stLtDavis
once more, the problems of the past have nothing to do with current freedom, all i said was that the British are proud of our heritage, whether bad or good is beside the point.
the point is about freedom and you have this odd belief that america is free because its citizens can shoot each other, this makes no sense and is at best idiotic.
you clearly dont understand what freedom is.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@ourorboros2 if you can't kill you will be killed. That's the law of freedom: you kill to keep your freedom and you die if you can't kill. All nature is always like this forever. Criminals are never armed by lawful guns: only by lawful REMOVAL of guns to the general public. You are most likely to be shot if you can never legally have a gun. FIRST BY POLICE, second by criminals. You reduce BOTH to near zero by having your own. and ONLY by that means.
ytgv3fc7 2 months ago
if you read the rest of the article they are training people to use plastic bullets and planning on buying water cannons... because the UK police aren't armed as standard... because over here we dont like hurting and killing our people even if they are commiting a crime much less after the fact. So I don't see how theres any correlation between here and the US in that regard.
stuckupsue 2 months ago
Also its not a freedom of speech if you are causing mass destruction and burning shopping centres down because one drug dealer got shot and people wanted an excuse to fuck shit up.
convictPKlol 2 months ago
The reason they are doing it here is because in America you protest for relevant reasons. The London riots here were nothing but mass vandalism and looting over absolutely nothing.
convictPKlol 2 months ago 3
WTH is Ana wearing O_O lolol
bkim9289 2 months ago
It's in response to rioters, not peaceful protest....last time I looked burning down somebody elses house, whilst they're still inside, looting somebody elses store and generally destroying other peoples property was nothing to do with free speech.
Sometimes I feel TYT assumes every country must naturally conform to how things may go in the US. Police consider using lasers...therefore it must mean it'll be used against peaceful protesters and blind you for life. No jumping to conclusions..
TeaKae421 2 months ago 3
Laughed my fuckin ass OFF!
Roxas58d 2 months ago
Maybe I'm being naive but I really think this was a product of discussions about how to better handle riot situations such as the ones earlier this year, rather than to do with protestors
Saphira4eva 2 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks 2
@Saphira4eva
you're not being naive at all, TYT are simply dramatising something and making it sound as though people should be scared in order to drive up views.
i personally find it rather funny, they talk about right wing media doing and slander them for it and yet in the next heartbeat do it themselves.
ourorboros2 2 months ago 2
uuhhh...why not flashbangs?
NickzCB 2 months ago in playlist The Young Turks Show December 19, 2011
I think I'd rather be hit with a baton then have my eyes effed with.
combatLaCarie 2 months ago
Dazzle would be a more accurate word.
It doesn't so much blind you, it dazzles you.
adamclark1972uk 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
1) This will probably not pass in the UK. 2) Americans once again show their hypocrisy since criminals in the UK do get treated better then occupy protesters exercising their 1st amendment. The rioting morons that destroyed private property just for fun were treated like royalty over here. Once again TYT knows nothing of UK social problems
Mirza247 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@markbrighten they've been using gas and riot gear to the protesters in the US over the past 6 months, you don't think they will use this on protesters....what's your precedent
jlopez9090 2 months ago
Real life LexCorp products!
DarthAzabrush 2 months ago
@klowdz1 Oh yes, I love that satisfying moment when someone speaks stupidity in it's purest form. You didn't think the UK was Scotland did you? The UK is made up of England, Northen Ireland Scotland and Wales. Your ignorance is my bliss. But yes, burgers are delicious - but America did not invent them? So what is your point....
doublecrosserfm 2 months ago
I am against it, but don't compare it to police brutality against your occupy protesters. We have occupy camps all over the place, and there hasn't been any trouble (except the one in London, there's always trouble in London). The one in Edinburgh was asked to move so they could put up the Christmas decorations, and in return they will get a platform to speak from. These measures are for riots rather than protesters, but guaranteed the London police will fuck it up.
IRLpirate 2 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
rioters are totally different from protesters...
markbrighten 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Make NO mistake about it: if you use lasers on my eyes, I WILL kill you.
salmonline 2 months ago
Soon batman wont hold a candle against the gadgets simple protesters have to wear.
Dasmaster1 2 months ago
You want to see what the State really looks like?
You're going to get your wish.
SHEEPLEwhisperer 2 months ago
It will be like tazers MOST of the time they don't kill people but sometimes they do, MOST of the time they will temporarily blind people and sometimes that persons vision just won't come back.
Leadman1989 2 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
No, police dogs with fricken lasers...
BurlingtonNorthernRy 2 months ago
LOL'ed so hard at "Sharks with fricken laser beams"... you can tell they edited out a big chuck where they had to explain it to Ana, too xD
I miss that movie :P
OcularPolitics 2 months ago
siktir! lol
Smilefriendly1 2 months ago in playlist The Young Turks Show December 19, 2011
well the UK considers protesters terrorists as well ie Occupy London listed as Terrorist organization
TheSuperLib 2 months ago in playlist The Young Turks Show December 19, 2011
damn ana
smokestackeroo 2 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
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TO ALL YOU IDIOTIC BRITS WHO COMPLACENTLY ACCEPT POLICE BRUTALITY AND THINK I AM AN AMERICAN WHO IS CONFUSING OWS WITH THE UK RIOTS, PLEASE WATCH DLANDONCOLE'S EXPLANATION OF THE UK RIOTS. If you are in favor of the police having the power to permanently blind you, then you are stupid enough to deserve to live the rest of your life blind, you stupid FEBS!
loveofphysics 2 months ago
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loveofphysics 2 months ago
This is why you SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS! Because even the authorities who claim to protect you will be the ones who destroy you........ Such as the police!
RyunSharp 2 months ago
So the UK are classifying protesters as terrorist and using these laser, jeez they are just as bad, maybe worse than we are here in the US.
Gold21030 2 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
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spaid012 2 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
rubber bullets, and live ammo in rare incidents to deal with extremely violent people, because there were a lot of attempted murders in this years riots also a couple of people were killed.
jamie123ginge 2 months ago
''as a western democracy we would hope that they would you-know, not blind their protesters''- says the country that still uses the death plenty and who's police Carry's guns, i don't know where tyt gets its sources from because i have read the newspapers and watched the news on this subject and have not heard of Lasers being considered, what is being said by Official sources is that if another large scale riot occurs like the recent one the police will consider using water cannons, continued--
jamie123ginge 2 months ago
@jamie123ginge Do you really think Cenk supports the Death Penalty, or Police brutality, just because it happens in America does not mean every American supports it.
loveofphysics 2 months ago
what if the protesters close their eyes ? o_0
magnumluver 2 months ago
i wonder if dark shades prevents laser hits to the eyes.
Mr071220 2 months ago
Sunglasses and Mirrors, FTW!!
bumbro07 2 months ago
@bumbro07 I think I've solved it: MIRRORED SUNGLASSES!! FUCK YOOUUUUU, MR. POLICEMAN!
ZenMasterT07 2 months ago
THIS IS THE UK NOT THE US RETARDOS
Sneezlebob 2 months ago
YOU ARE FREE TO DO WHAT WE TELL YOU,
LOST11B 2 months ago
Apparently Protestors need their own police force to protect them from... the police.
invaderjay 2 months ago
Cenk says "siktir" at 1:36
That's a bad Turkish swearword 8/
adamclark1972uk 2 months ago
I can't believe that my favorite field of Physics, and the one in which I am pursuing a professional career, Lasers, is being used to hurt people ... it used to be that only politics would get me depressed, now the applications of my own field of study is depressing me.
loveofphysics 2 months ago
I build Class 4 Lasers as my career, I accidently got flashed once in the lab and though it missed my eye, it burned my eyelid and I couldn't see for a week. This is dangerous stuff. If their intent is to temporarily blind, they may just try to burn the outer cornea, but it will take a few weeks of sitting in the dark and serious medical intervention to recover. However, since they will be using Visible wavelengths, and there is a REAL threat to damage the retina, which would be PERMANENT!!!
loveofphysics 2 months ago
At least our police don't carry guns, and need to stop going on about my country as if we are people without freedom of speech and choice, when you obviously don't know, so tell me what laws are you telling me that are drastically different that supposedly permit our police to act uncivilised and savage like?
asco181 2 months ago
@ourorboros2, Err wrong answer...I'll tell you what happens then.
As an American and free man, I grab the nearest firearm and I attempt to shoot and kill the robber...
You, on the other hand, plead for mercy while he rapes your wife and knocks your teeth in....why? Because you are a disarmed slave, a subject to your royal anus.
Joseph565112 2 months ago
tyt needs to stop covering uk stories when they dont understand how different our police forces are!
scrimy93 2 months ago
@Driv3ItLikeUStoleIt I stayed on topic, saying many governments that advocate freedom of speech only enforce it when it's politically convenient for them.
Shias complaining? That sounds like what Republicans say about OWS. Why are you complaining? Go work.
CIA and many independent probes publicly claim there was no link b/w Bahrain protests and Iran government. TYT talked about it. Shia didn't want to topple anything until they got shot at. I know people who were in the protests.
ttzz2003 2 months ago
@ttzz2003
I can find the site that has.IR at the end that had more than 2k volunteers for suicide bombing in Bahrain. I have relatives their, they had to make patrols to protect the neighborhoods it more of a riot than a protest, what kind of protest that invades hospitals and universities!!? And to show how true your claims are you mentioned the CIA lol,
Driv3ItLikeUStoleIt 2 months ago
@Driv3ItLikeUStoleIt lol yeah, but it's a slippery slope to pick n chose which protests are legit and which are not, u know what I mean? Govm shouldn't be using the laser to say, okay Tea Part is legit, OWS has drug users/bottle throwers and is not legit.
Western police shouldn't have more harmful tools to shut down protests They deem illegitimate. Some ppl say OWS is all leftwing extrimists and their entire message should be supressed.
ttzz2003 2 months ago
@ttzz2003
common man even if the I'm protesting for something(which I see it far from possible) I dnt want to C my family getting hurt in school and my neighbors cars getting burned just so I/other people make their point. its easy to judge and reckon a riot or a violating protest from a peaceful one.Two cops died and a lot seriously injured while trying to move pple from th 1st protest in Bahrain when they blocked a main intersection.common give me a break I will shoot F I was a cop
Driv3ItLikeUStoleIt 2 months ago
@Driv3ItLikeUStoleIt yup, i know, but there's always bad ppl hijacking protests. Emotions run high, authoritarian government feels threatened and protesters start doing dumb things. Then it becomes legitimate to shoot into a crowd of protesters, many of whom are peaceful?
It's hard to say, cuz every protest has ppl saying, oh this is just non-sense/thugs/rioters/dumbasses ever since protests existed in history. Mexico, S. America, Ottomans, etc
ttzz2003 2 months ago
@ttzz2003 dude the london rioters weren't trying to make a political point, they were trying to steal as many games consoles and trainers as they could and mob mentality caused a few to think it would be fun to set buildings on fire.
it wasn't about world politics, it wasn't about the recession, it wasn't about the government and it wasn't even about the guy who got shot in totenham.
it was gangs of thugs taking what they could.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@ourorboros2 yes i know, it is legit to protect the people, but the laser can be easily turned on peaceful protesters and cause them permanent harm. As soon as we give police the go-ahead, they're gonna use it to the fullest extent, like the UAV in Wisconsin or whatever
ttzz2003 2 months ago
@ttzz2003
try to remember though, we're talking about england, not america, i have no doubt that when america gets their hands on this that opticians will be rolling in money due to all their new clients however the English police do not abuse protesters, they do not brutally attack citizens and most of all wouldn't even be given the choice to.
if this was developed it will never actually be seen unless in severe circumstances.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@ourorboros2 yeah I get that they don't want that riot to happen again. it's costly.
Don't they already use these two weapons, one that emits very intense directional sound wave, and the other that emits a wave that penetrates skin slightly and causes enormous pain, as non-lethal crowd dispersers?
ttzz2003 2 months ago
@ttzz2003
its not that its costly, yes thats a pain and it means that the government has less money to help improve education and othersuch but rather the reason most people in england are angry about is the fact thats it was simply a bunch of selfish thugs taking what they could, we dont want it to happen again because lost their homes, their business' and their lives.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@ttzz2003
as for the two weapons you talked of, i've never heard of them before and much less seen them in use, they certainly weren't used in the riots.
you need to understand, our police aren't armed, they dont even get issued stun guns unless its extreme circumstances and even then only specially trained people are allowed to use them.
ourorboros2 2 months ago
@ourorboros2 yeah i heard, from TYT.
ttzz2003 2 months ago
Blinding people with lasers is risky.
It its accidentally strong enough it WILL permanently blind people.
Laser is,as we all know, concentrated light. The eye focus light on the retina to see stuff, but if a strong enough laser hits your eye the retina will build up heat and instantly pop and you will be permanently blinded for life.
I heard about this when I was in the army because the Chinese have shoulder mounted weapons like these.
The UK used weaker lasers in the Falklands war vs air.
Lobos222 2 months ago
And American police carry guns...
flake452 2 months ago
IMA FIRIN' MAI LAZER!!!
Nonizsportz12 2 months ago
Does TYT not realise that these are being developed in response to the riots over the summer and NOT the Occupy movement?
Saaduk92 2 months ago 10
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@Saaduk92 Sure, so the better response to the UK riots is to hurt the people more, rather than improving their situation so that they have enough hope in the UK gov't not to protest, /watch?v=vq0QvP8Doqk watch?v=J4ZwKcYY72M
loveofphysics 2 months ago
@loveofphysics
The events over the summer were NOT protests. They were riots.
Saaduk92 2 months ago
@Saaduk92 wtf is wrong with teargas and batons bro. lasers in eyes is to extreme. and the british government is getting out of hand.
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@Saaduk92 Does Saaduk92 not realize that Cenk never mentioned OWS in the video, only the potential of American Police copying UK Police. get a freakin clue.
loveofphysics 2 months ago
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Saaduk92 2 months ago
@loveofphysics
And do you not realise that within the first 30 seconds both Cenk and Ana stated that these would be used on protesters? YOU need to "get a freakin clue".
I also love how you pretend to have a deep understanding on the riots just because you watched two videos on them by Landon. One explained why using the army was a bad idea (which no one was asking for!) and the other pretended that there was a racial element which wasn't the case at all (TYT did this too).
Saaduk92 2 months ago
@loveofphysics
Oh, and read the title of the video. "Laser to blind protesters", not "Laser to blind rioters", with the latter actually being the thing it's developed for.
Saaduk92 2 months ago
@Saaduk92 The slippery slope argument applies here because both Tazers and Pepper spray were originally developed for extreme occasions only, but as we have seen across the world, they are being used to stop protesters not rioter. Perhaps, in the UK, the police may not slide down that slippery slope, but as Cenk correctly predicted, police in the good-ole USA will quickly slide down that slope and use it as casually Lt. John Pike sprayed the UC Davis students.
loveofphysics 2 months ago
In the long run unjust system will require machinery of violence to operate
BeyondWrittenWords 2 months ago
And it doesnt damage the eyeball
expertcreatormo 2 months ago
@expertcreatormo I build Class 4 lasers and accidently got flashed by a diffuse 20W beam. My blink response prevented the light from getting in my eye, but the fact that it burned my eyelid swelled up my eye and I couldn't be in the light, or focus for a week. This is no small matter. Lasers are not to be used as weapons against those practicing their freedom of speech.
loveofphysics 2 months ago 13
Hurting an eyelid could cause someone to keep their eye shut for a period of time
expertcreatormo 2 months ago
I wandered so aimless life filled with sin
I wouldn't let my dear saviour in
Then Jesus came like a stranger in the night
Praise the lord! I saw the light ~ Hank Williams
bobbytookalook 2 months ago
There ARE anti-laser goggles, which have the nice side effect of protecting the eyes from physical projectiles.
Ragitsu 2 months ago 2
@Ragitsu You have to know the wavelength they are using, and Laser goggles are only for protection of diffuse laser light, not a direct beam, and seriously, why should we have to practice our freedom of speech under the consideration of which type of laser safety goggles to purchase. Also, laser goggles are quite pricey, at least $100 a pop.
loveofphysics 2 months ago
WTF, I didn't even realise they were talking about my country until 1:11. What's wrong with you, Britain?! I thought you were LESS crazy than America!!
xblueblaze 2 months ago