There are three issues that concern me using a biner. One, the cinching of the rope could pull the gate into the tree and put a lot of pressure on the gate. Two, the biner could get cross-loaded through the installation process. And three, there could be some bending forces on the biner or delta.
I have used biners; I am careful to check orientation of the gate in relation to the tree, so the gate of the biner is oriented outwardly from the tree.
Ahhhh, I see now. The 'beaner' is a delta screwlink - stronger than a delta and is for two reasons: one, it keeps nylon (or polyester) from running on itself, and two you can unscrew the gate instead of having to untie and retie a knot at each setting.
I actually could probably untie and retie a running bowline as fast as unscrewing and rescrewing a screwgate, but I'd have nylon running on nylon in roughly the same place (the eye area) every time.
Hmmm, not quite sure what you mean. The only knot I have is the nylon foot loops and that is so I can disconnect them after I get in the tree canopy. I generally switch to arms only/body thrusting in the tree and the foot loops get in the way. So I have them on a connector so I can remove them - is that what you are referring to?
thanks for the info
petzltreeclimber 1 year ago
though the beaner is weaker, is it still suitable?
petzltreeclimber 1 year ago
@petzltreeclimber
There are three issues that concern me using a biner. One, the cinching of the rope could pull the gate into the tree and put a lot of pressure on the gate. Two, the biner could get cross-loaded through the installation process. And three, there could be some bending forces on the biner or delta.
I have used biners; I am careful to check orientation of the gate in relation to the tree, so the gate of the biner is oriented outwardly from the tree.
Tanglerwr 1 year ago
sorry i meant to say on your anchor knot at the top of the branch
petzltreeclimber 1 year ago
@petzltreeclimber
Ahhhh, I see now. The 'beaner' is a delta screwlink - stronger than a delta and is for two reasons: one, it keeps nylon (or polyester) from running on itself, and two you can unscrew the gate instead of having to untie and retie a knot at each setting.
I actually could probably untie and retie a running bowline as fast as unscrewing and rescrewing a screwgate, but I'd have nylon running on nylon in roughly the same place (the eye area) every time.
Tanglerwr 1 year ago
just wondering but why do u have a beaner on the the eye of your knot instead on just using the eye?
petzltreeclimber 1 year ago
@petzltreeclimber
Hmmm, not quite sure what you mean. The only knot I have is the nylon foot loops and that is so I can disconnect them after I get in the tree canopy. I generally switch to arms only/body thrusting in the tree and the foot loops get in the way. So I have them on a connector so I can remove them - is that what you are referring to?
Ron
Tanglerwr 1 year ago
Good vid lol i have the same micro pulley
petzltreeclimber 1 year ago
David wiuldn't let me buy these. He said I need to be saving my money for Panama.
REI had blems for 50 bucks.
jbirdtree 2 years ago
$50 is a good deal - and what are you gonna climb on when you get to Panama? You gonna use that same old gear in all those pics and videos!!! LOL!
Tanglerwr 2 years ago