Max for Live: Buffer Shuffler

[alexgowers]

There are so many plugins that do this better and with more flexibilty with ability to use live with a keyboard. I'm failing to see the advantage of this at all? anyone fill me in as to why i would use this over all the others?

[bootr0s]

meh



[BLAZE45]

umm dosent beat repeat do the exact same thing?

[todzillarockz51]

What if you don't have max, just live? Can you still get buffer shuffler?

[jallstars]

@todzillarockz51 no, you need "max for live"

[nerokerr]

The effect itself isn't anything new... there's been Max patches that do this (albeit, not nearly as graphically friendly) for at least 10 years. What's exciting is the ability to use the creative power of Max directly within Live.

[TheDadsr]

does max for live come with the purchase of live 8 or do you have to purchase it separetely

[theFilch]

@TheDadsr Separately

[claim34]

Buffer shuffler is exactly what I don't like.

A plugin wich compose for you.

But I'm still a user of Live !

Great sound, best midi editor, best sampler, ...everything !!!

even if I don't like slicing in drum rack, and even if I think Cubase lead in audio edit, this daw is the very BEST.

Plus, when you're register you have a lot of things

thanks for your work, dudes

[sommersound]

Buffer shuffler does not compose music. It is merely one in the myriads of tools that exist to aid in the composition of music.

[claim34]

I agree 50 per cent.

I looks do a lot itself, but I don't have live 8 and Max, i maybe mistaken.

And I'm a reaktor user. And I spend so many time to understand all, that i can't restart another complex program like max.

Plus, reaktor give emulation of nord rack, re201, thousands synth and fx.... I'm totally fan. ;D

[TheDadsr]

i think the developers where thinking more of terms of playing live than composing

it would be kinda hard to come up with variations of anything without it

[claim34]

I agree.

And if people like me you don't like "Buffer shuffler", you can use something else :D

You have everything in this program !

[GregorEicher]

The one and only thing i really dont like in Live, is the fucking-fucked-up-fuckers-fuck MIDI and automation overwriting in arrange view...no overdubbing is possible, that sucks very hard...nearly every other seq has this as an BASIC, Logic does for example...if you want to add some notes to a recorded midi clip in the arrange, by using the session-record, it overwrites your midi clip in the arrange...that sucks so hard...

[gomachols]

@GregorEicher dude..... no. you're just doing it wrong

[GregorEicher]

@gomachols Aha... lol... thats all you can say? So how do you do it right, mister "you're just doing it wrong"?!

[gomachols]

@GregorEicher ok. well you seem a lot calmer now. you should know that anything BASIC and obvious, you can certainly do in live. this particular request is easy: in arrange view. load a midi clip. loop it. you can press the 'punch in' button and the loop bracket button. arm the track. set it to record. let it rip. if the OVR button is yellow, its going to write over the notes. if its not on, it will go over and over allowing you to add DIFFERENT notes. olsmichael@gmail.com 4more

[jxw137]

@GregorEicher howd that work out for you?

[fermixx]

what exactly is max for live? a pack of new effects?

never heard about it

[sonicboyPT]

Its a special programing environment for creating instruments / effects. It probably comes with some pre-set effects already implemented like this buffer shuffler.

[GregorEicher]

@fermixx Google is your friend, and will ever be.

[fermixx]

@GregorEicher one year ago it was not so popular

[GregorEicher]

@fermixx But Google knew what it exactly is, even one year ago. ;)

[deedzremix]

So we can definitely throw away Making Waves....anyone agree?

[cullyvan]

a sore head making machine.

[Sniperdot]

NICE! ;D

[sonicboyPT]

Yeah, it might have an effect if a good artist does something good out of it otherwise its just another level of complexity that dampers inspiration, action and soul. I am yet still to listen to something as good as 30 or 40 year old Kraftwerk songs done with analog stuff. Dont get me wrong, I love Ableton Live, but I'm always fidling with new stuff and I became a miserable gearhead :) I miss my acustic guitar :D cheers!

[cullyvan]

I agree. Good fun and toys for the boys but underneath it you still need a good piece of music.

[ParallaxUniverse]

I sooooo agree to what you've written. I have extensively worked with Cubase 5 and logic 9 and for some reason these manufacturers feel that ONLY rocket scientists need work on their DAWs and not musicians. Creativity gets soo muted and stifled with trying to figure out all there is in these super-confusing user unfriendly softwares. The best new discovery for me has been Propellerhead record. What a breath of fresh air with its typical Props style intuitiveness. Give it a try with your acoustic

[TheDadsr]

everything has a learning curve man, live and max for live is intended for musicians too. i think if you want to make decent electronic music you have to know audio engineering and synthesis.

now, another thing is that Live or Max is not typical.

if you look a bit further youll find Csound or Supercollider and id agree to some degree those programming languages are a bit hard

with the tools live provides you spend less time on editing with better and more complicated results than hours on cubase

[Svetty00]

Max for Live is very exciting and I reckon it will have a noticeable affect on the music scene.

[THEDEFOCATOR]

this program is easy on the eyes.

[HoboMiracleMan]

8`O

[nexusdb]

madness

[AppA]

Max will take Live into infinity.

[RemcoMusic]

when is max 4 life coming out ??

[ClassicCult]

this is kinda lazy, you can do that with a mouse and some clicks, add Dblueglitch and wala, man fuck this effect lol

[ig249]

Woooooow, I can't wait to get Max for Live. Sick.

[mcsg27]

nice, but when can we actually use it???

[BloodyCrz]

yep!!!

[Auriculum]

YAY! Amazing! Love you, Abes!

[chrisbuonovideos]

YES.

[machinate]

I love this effect - and I can't wait to hear what the dsp-geeks come up with when they mess around with the innards!

[Elektrooxid]

amazing!

[paulsureno]

SICK

[jay303millar]

the wait is killing me! soon as this is out im all over it, another great product form an already great DAW

[SantensSeppe]

very nice...

when? when? when? when?

[spankazoid]

man i cant wait, Ableton constantly pushing the envelope.

[KainProject]

What a tease, gief official release.