@conorblue Fantastic assertion. So you're telling me that God DIDN'T save a misogynistic old man and his incestuous, alcoholic daughters while fire-bombing two cities' worth of toddlers, infants, and unborn babies? Wow, I guess I really am clueless after all!
@chrisdecaf Actually, Jesus did enough to keep EVERYONE out of Hell... not just 9/10 of them. Sinning is fun, so people are willing to risk Hell, in favor of sin for a season.
Also, abortions won't keep the abortionist butchers, all the people who take part in killing pre-born babies, and all who promote abortions, out of Hell.
God can be a pretty sick bastard, I wouldn't think we should decide whats moraly right by his standards. I'm not sure how I feel about abortion. I just watched some pretty crazy videos on the subject that have caused me to wonder how some of the things that go on in abortion can be justified. I don't know.
And personally, I'm a little ambiguous on my own stance toward abortion. My real concern is the hypocritical idea that the God of the Bible is anti-abortion while being perfectly content with wiping out entire populations of children.
abortion is ok. Its not even a person yet! Plus, if the people do not want a baby, they will bring a kid into the world, who will not be loved. So, before it IS a baby, abort it if you're not gonna be good to it. (I personally would never have one tho but I am for it)
@ThatJENNAchick Ok, for the sake of argument: if a child, let's say is two years old and its parents don't love it, should it be killed then? I mean, if that's enough of a criteria for you, that's no problem. Just 'humanely euthanize' it. When do you consider it alive? Within 6 weeks the hart starts pumping. Not a life yet, right? I'm born one month early, my sister two. When, in your opinion, is it morally acceptable? Adoption not an option, let's 'remove' it. Cold...
@EdjeBos I still dont consider it a person til it's at least at 3 months. People should have the abortion long before that, in the first trimester. It's just my opinion. It's a different circumstance with a 2 year old and you know it. It's not a real person yet. It does have complete potential to be a child, but so does sperm(if mixed with an egg.) Does that mean men shouldn't masturbate and kill the potential babies? NO. I would never have one, but I do support them. :)
"It does have complete potential to be a child, but so does sperm(if mixed with an egg.)" So sperm does not. Only after conception it has that potential, as you correctly stated. After that it not only 'has the potential' but will be a human being if everything goes well. But when they remove it, it hasn't for sure. Then they are denying someone their life. Wether they do that once it is born or just previous to that, what's the difference? The outcome is the same.
When does a baby begin to kick, dream, think, LIVE? Do you know? When is it a life? Why do you consider a baby a life, when it is just as helpless as it was in the womb? I consider them both a life, just as I consider a seedling a life, not just a tree.
@SexySadie98506 A forest is a family. One pinecone has many seeds. When one of those sprouts, it has the potential to become a forest. Unless you rip it out of the earth. Same with a child. Once it starts growing in the womb, on what ground do you consider it to be a life? A miscarriage in an early stage of pregnancy can cause great feelings of loss, mourning. Those women know they have lost a LIFE. You tell them it wasn't.
@EdjeBos A forest is a forest, you idiot. And too many trees can't survive. Nature has ways of limiting proliferation of trees, thankfully. And by the way, I've had a miscarriage. It was sad, but not nearly as sad as when my cat died.
@SexySadie98506 So when you say pinecone, it's a metaphore, when I say forest, it's not? My sister had several and is still pretty shaken by it. The proces of proliferation with trees has other reasons then a miscarriage. That's often the result of a 'defect' in the growth. If you did not have 'great feelings of loss, mourning', I wasn't talking about you, obviously. But if you ever encounter one, just tell them it wasn't a life yet. They will feel much better.
@EdjeBos Take some responsibility for your own mangled metaphors. Come on, stop pointing the finger and take some responsibility. I'm so sick of these right-wingers who live in a dreamworld, comparing one thing to another. A pinecone is not a forest, a forest is not a family, and the miscarriage of a wanted child is nothing like an abortion. Grow up and have the courage to acknowledge that there's a difference. By the way, when I say pinecone, I mean pinecone.
@SexySadie98506 You're strange. So with your initial question 'Do you consider a pinecone a forest?' you wanted my opinion on pinecones?? Bit off-topic, I think.. And I'm sick of people not taking responsibility by practising safe sex and the child having to die for it. 'and the miscarriage of a wanted child is nothing like an abortion' is exactly my point all along. So you consider yourself grown-up by denying others the same?
I don't believe in God, so it doesn't matter to me what sex God is or isn't. But, for the record, the Bible calls God "He", and it is this particular religious text that I'm criticizing.
Yes, but what IS his standard? You're only making a tautological argument, which is vapid and pointless. "God is God, so he can do what he wants. He's right because he's God. His standard is his standard because it's his standard". This wasn't some random earthquake or miscarriage or war. This was a deliberate action by God to kill these babies. God is supposed to be just and merciful. Global infanticide is neither just nor merciful. Would YOU drown a million babies if God asked you to?
Cool, just making sure we're clear that you worship a God who arbitrarily murders millions of unborn babies for the sins of their parents. Glad we can agree on that. I wouldn't want there to be any confusion over the fact that you support God committing infanticide.
@ofreshartist2: So God can freely judge that it's OK to murder babies, but people cannot? How does God resolve the hypocrisy of destroying countless unborn lives and then punishing us for following in his footsteps?
You have no understanding of how Biblical stories are absorbed and understood in Christianity.
conorblue 1 month ago
@conorblue Fantastic assertion. So you're telling me that God DIDN'T save a misogynistic old man and his incestuous, alcoholic daughters while fire-bombing two cities' worth of toddlers, infants, and unborn babies? Wow, I guess I really am clueless after all!
chrisdecaf 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Jesus loves everyone.
mjt19741 1 year ago 2
@mjt19741 Not enough to keep 9/10 of them out of hell. Abortion sends a higher percentage of souls to heaven than Jesus does.
chrisdecaf 1 year ago
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@chrisdecaf Actually, Jesus did enough to keep EVERYONE out of Hell... not just 9/10 of them. Sinning is fun, so people are willing to risk Hell, in favor of sin for a season.
Also, abortions won't keep the abortionist butchers, all the people who take part in killing pre-born babies, and all who promote abortions, out of Hell.
AntichristComes 10 months ago 3
god is a prick if you're really honest about it
CatholicCoatHanger 1 year ago
God can be a pretty sick bastard, I wouldn't think we should decide whats moraly right by his standards. I'm not sure how I feel about abortion. I just watched some pretty crazy videos on the subject that have caused me to wonder how some of the things that go on in abortion can be justified. I don't know.
52questionmarks 2 years ago
And personally, I'm a little ambiguous on my own stance toward abortion. My real concern is the hypocritical idea that the God of the Bible is anti-abortion while being perfectly content with wiping out entire populations of children.
chrisdecaf 2 years ago
youre a douche bag! the world would be better off if your mom aborted you.
AudraJaneOwens 2 years ago
Is this the proper way to evangelize a lost soul? Because you aren't winning any points with God by talking like that
chrisdecaf 2 years ago
abortion is ok. Its not even a person yet! Plus, if the people do not want a baby, they will bring a kid into the world, who will not be loved. So, before it IS a baby, abort it if you're not gonna be good to it. (I personally would never have one tho but I am for it)
ThatJENNAchick 2 years ago
@ThatJENNAchick Ok, for the sake of argument: if a child, let's say is two years old and its parents don't love it, should it be killed then? I mean, if that's enough of a criteria for you, that's no problem. Just 'humanely euthanize' it. When do you consider it alive? Within 6 weeks the hart starts pumping. Not a life yet, right? I'm born one month early, my sister two. When, in your opinion, is it morally acceptable? Adoption not an option, let's 'remove' it. Cold...
EdjeBos 2 years ago
@EdjeBos I still dont consider it a person til it's at least at 3 months. People should have the abortion long before that, in the first trimester. It's just my opinion. It's a different circumstance with a 2 year old and you know it. It's not a real person yet. It does have complete potential to be a child, but so does sperm(if mixed with an egg.) Does that mean men shouldn't masturbate and kill the potential babies? NO. I would never have one, but I do support them. :)
ThatJENNAchick 2 years ago
"It does have complete potential to be a child, but so does sperm(if mixed with an egg.)" So sperm does not. Only after conception it has that potential, as you correctly stated. After that it not only 'has the potential' but will be a human being if everything goes well. But when they remove it, it hasn't for sure. Then they are denying someone their life. Wether they do that once it is born or just previous to that, what's the difference? The outcome is the same.
EdjeBos 2 years ago
When does a baby begin to kick, dream, think, LIVE? Do you know? When is it a life? Why do you consider a baby a life, when it is just as helpless as it was in the womb? I consider them both a life, just as I consider a seedling a life, not just a tree.
EdjeBos 2 years ago
@EdjeBos Do you consider a pinecone a forest?
SexySadie98506 1 year ago
@SexySadie98506 A forest is a family. One pinecone has many seeds. When one of those sprouts, it has the potential to become a forest. Unless you rip it out of the earth. Same with a child. Once it starts growing in the womb, on what ground do you consider it to be a life? A miscarriage in an early stage of pregnancy can cause great feelings of loss, mourning. Those women know they have lost a LIFE. You tell them it wasn't.
EdjeBos 1 year ago
@EdjeBos A forest is a forest, you idiot. And too many trees can't survive. Nature has ways of limiting proliferation of trees, thankfully. And by the way, I've had a miscarriage. It was sad, but not nearly as sad as when my cat died.
SexySadie98506 1 year ago
@SexySadie98506 So when you say pinecone, it's a metaphore, when I say forest, it's not? My sister had several and is still pretty shaken by it. The proces of proliferation with trees has other reasons then a miscarriage. That's often the result of a 'defect' in the growth. If you did not have 'great feelings of loss, mourning', I wasn't talking about you, obviously. But if you ever encounter one, just tell them it wasn't a life yet. They will feel much better.
EdjeBos 1 year ago
@EdjeBos Take some responsibility for your own mangled metaphors. Come on, stop pointing the finger and take some responsibility. I'm so sick of these right-wingers who live in a dreamworld, comparing one thing to another. A pinecone is not a forest, a forest is not a family, and the miscarriage of a wanted child is nothing like an abortion. Grow up and have the courage to acknowledge that there's a difference. By the way, when I say pinecone, I mean pinecone.
SexySadie98506 1 year ago
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@SexySadie98506 You're strange. So with your initial question 'Do you consider a pinecone a forest?' you wanted my opinion on pinecones?? Bit off-topic, I think.. And I'm sick of people not taking responsibility by practising safe sex and the child having to die for it. 'and the miscarriage of a wanted child is nothing like an abortion' is exactly my point all along. So you consider yourself grown-up by denying others the same?
EdjeBos 1 year ago
Chrisdecaf, so how is it you assume to know that God is a man?
Notababykiller 2 years ago
I don't believe in God, so it doesn't matter to me what sex God is or isn't. But, for the record, the Bible calls God "He", and it is this particular religious text that I'm criticizing.
chrisdecaf 2 years ago
Yes, but what IS his standard? You're only making a tautological argument, which is vapid and pointless. "God is God, so he can do what he wants. He's right because he's God. His standard is his standard because it's his standard". This wasn't some random earthquake or miscarriage or war. This was a deliberate action by God to kill these babies. God is supposed to be just and merciful. Global infanticide is neither just nor merciful. Would YOU drown a million babies if God asked you to?
chrisdecaf 2 years ago
By what measure, then, does he decide that it's a good idea to kill children?
chrisdecaf 2 years ago
Cool, just making sure we're clear that you worship a God who arbitrarily murders millions of unborn babies for the sins of their parents. Glad we can agree on that. I wouldn't want there to be any confusion over the fact that you support God committing infanticide.
chrisdecaf 2 years ago
@ofreshartist2: So God can freely judge that it's OK to murder babies, but people cannot? How does God resolve the hypocrisy of destroying countless unborn lives and then punishing us for following in his footsteps?
chrisdecaf 2 years ago
He does this becuz he loves U LoL what a crock lol
geeingu 2 years ago
nice
stephenpaultaylor 2 years ago