I know it's out there on the market but who the hell would use DDR3 800 on a Intel Core i series cpu. Talk about bottleneck. DDR3 1066 would be the lowers I would go on a Core i series cpu. DDR3 1333 seems to be the sweet spot. But with Sandy Bridge around the corner the 2nd gen Core i series will be able to take advantage of DDR3 1600.
@SteelCity1981 Even if they can scale down to 800, you'd be hard pressed to find one. Also remember that MT/s doubles up so in the video 800*2=1600MHz.
@dchains not really you can go to google shopping for example and they have a lot of DDR3 800. for sale. No it equals 400mhz DDR 800 equals 400mhz per channel.
@SteelCity1981 You just proved my point even more, DDR3 800 isn't widely available on the market, finding something on google isn't hard, plus there were only three modules are there and only two of them were for desktops lol, it's definitely not a common standard, it's more likely used in OEM builds..
And again, going back to your original post, the video isn't saying the RAM is running at 800MHz, it's running at 800MT/s and that doubles up to 1600. So again, you are wrong.
Proved what point? first you said they made no such thing in which you were wrong. then you said it's hard pressed to find, which i showed you it was for sale.
I'm right, you are the one that's not getting it If you breakdown DDR2 800 the memory clock rate is 200mhz x 2 per I\O bus clock channel = 400mhz per Data Rate. So you get a total of 800mhz MT DDR. You really don't understand how DDR memory works i suggest you wiki it and read up on how DDR 2 memory is broken down.
@SteelCity1981 I said they're not the easiest of memory to find, they don't sell them at places like Newegg etc. And the fact that you use Wiki as a source for your info is a huge realization that you don't have your facts straight. You have been corrected, take it as you wish. ;)
@dchains I don't have my fact striaght? Show me anywhere where that source from Wiki is wrong? I can show you many websites regarding the same diagram. Facts? straight? LOL you were the one saying there is no such thing as DDR3 800. you were the one that said DDR 800 Mt's equal 1600 which it clearly doesn't as i showed that The Mt per Data rate = 400mhz which gives it a total of 800mhz DDR Mt's. Anyone that truly knows about ram will tell you that. so lets not by hypocritcal here.
@dchains Futhermore just because they don't sell it on Newegg doesn't mean they don't sell them anywhere else. Newegg isn't the only e-retailer in the world. the fact that you disputed me over that their no such thing as DDR3 800 was the main topic, but you some how managed to twist it into other subjects to avoid the fact that you were wrong.
@dchains lol what has been false you are still yet to provide anything other then your miss statements regarding ram i on the other hand have provided links to sites that explan ram to back up my claim furthermore the orignal argument which was DDR3 existing is fact you were the one that was wrong why don't you admit it.
"DDR3 800MHz modules don't even exist, they start at 1066MHz and up"
@SteelCity1981 You did not provide any links, only bullshit you think is fact that you read up on Wikipedia to spew off as fact. And shopping on Google? lol ya that really proved me wrong lol. All it did as i said was prove my point further, it proved that 800MHz DDR3 is so insignificant that it's NOT sold and any MAJOR e-tailers, no ones shops at shitty google.com. DDR3 800MHz is does NOT exist in the context of X58, which is what this entire thing is about. So you are WRONG!!! lol
@dchains Oh i'm sorry Wiki in regards to DDR2 800 wasn't a link Toms hard ware that even showed DDR3 800 in performance compared to other DDR3 rams weren't links? LOL I based those links to show your ignorence that you were wrong. I didn't need those links i already knew there were DDR3 800 out there I already knew how DDR worked, you on the other hand have no clue in which i had to provide you links so that you wouldn't be soo ignorant in the subject.
@dchains So you are admitting that you are an idiot when it comes to ram and how ram works and the existence of a ram product? LOL Yeah you saved yourself the trouble.
@dchains I did so this was made up then "DDR3 800MHz modules don't even exist, they start at 1066MHz and up" Do you not read what you write? lol Again show me where the links that I provided were wrong... I have been corrected lol? you haven't corrected me in anything LOL. You were the one that stated there were no such thing as DDR3 800, you were the one the missread MT counts on DDR, and you were the one that stated the X58 chipset in which had nothing to do with the Core i series family.
@SteelCity1981 I will admit that i was partly wrong for not acknowledging that there was DDR3 800 RAM. As 1066 is native with X58, and due to the fact that it's not that common within the market. As each generation of DDR is released we see an increase in the memory speed standard to, so thinking in that context, i would of thought that 800MHz was left in the dirt with DDR2 and instead the starting frequencies with DDR3 was only 1066 and up.
@dchains Yeah. I mean i will agree with you that DDR3 800 support is pretty stupid. that's why i don't understand in my intital post why Core I 5/3/ Pentuim G series based on the Core processors would be supportive of it seeing how much of a bottleneck it would be. I can understand the Atom 5xx series supporting low speed DDR3 due to the fact that it still uses only 667mhz on chip FSB and the lower volts that come with DDR3 vs DDR2.
@SteelCity1981 Agreed. I thought the Core I series left 800MHz behind altogether, though i don't know who would actually buy 800MHz RAM if you're pairing it with a Core series chip.
@dchains I've seen a few budget pc's and budget laptops come with DDR3 800mhz, there was a gateway ID series laptop that had a core i330m with 4gb of DDR3 800 but of course those types of pc's are in the ultra budget category. Maybe from an ultra budget standpoint it makes sense to keep the cost low as possible, but anything beyond that is just stupid.
@SteelCity1981 Definitely, i think in those aspects 800MHz RAM is sufficient in most cases. For a more demanding user that really needs to have some speed it's useless. Sticking DDR3 800 in small OEM builds are something i can understand.
@dchains The only thing i can think of why intel intially supported DDR3 800 for the Core i seires was maybe because they weren't sure on what the pricing forcast was going to look like with of DDR3 when the Core i i5/3 series came out a year ago when DRAM was high in price a year ago. Sandy Bridge the 2nd gen Core i will no longer support anything lower then DDR3 1066. The even better news is that Sandy Bridge will support up to DDR3 1600 where the current Core series support up to DDR3 1333
@SteelCity1981 That's great but you are missing the fact that the Intergrated memory controller can only take advantage of DDR31066. thus is why intel's own website states DDR3 1066
@dchains You provide nothling LOL you stated and I quote once again... "DDR3 800MHz modules don't even exist, they start at 1066MHz and up" Was this or was this not what you said? It was so quit ignoring what you said and admit you were wrong. You used that no one sells DDR3 BS after the fact that you were wrong about DDR3 800 so that you can divert the orgignal debate in regards to DDR3 800 itself off topic from the fact that you were wrong.
@dchains LOL Where did i say it did on the X58 chipset? you were the one that said that my orginal statement was inregards to The Core I series family supporting DDR3 800 in "GENEREL"
@SteelCity1981 That is correct, but of course Atom's are only used mainly in mainstream portable devices, netbooks etc So of course something like DDR3 is a nice leap in technology for that platform.
@SteelCity1981 Depends on the application, sometimes speed can contribute more then latency. But DDR2 has lower latencies as it's an older standard, DDR3 latencies will comes down eventually as it gets more adopted into the mainstream.
@dchains Actually higher speeds compensate for higher latencies. That's just the trick of the trade, which is why you DDR 1600 for example is fast in speed due to the high latency it has to compensate for. Any slower speed with the same latency would make it bottleneck the performance.
only suckers buy a cpu for 900$+ i mean, you can get a opteron for almost the same price. and you will only get 12 MB cache total(in reality) becuase intels cache handling
Thats absolute rubish I know from personal investment that all intel has been doing for years and included in this investigation is the fact that intel is cashing in on the ensatiable apetite of lust for technology. Intel is a compant that has been rehashing technology we have had for over 50 Years and slowly releasing this technology tochnology but for a purpose that it was not designed . and always the same technology but changed pin design and board design.
i7 980x is not technically an i9. the i9 will in fact be a totally re-vamped chip and architecture. it was never introduced as the i9. that is not released yet and won't be for some time as they haven't finished even the 'design' elements yet. -good day!
@32ndegree not true. you see those people, such as game developers and extreme multi taskers using this much power on a daily basis, especialy for video editing, 3d and image rendering, programming, and so much other stuff, that sometimes this much power isnt enough (although it may not seem like it to a lot of people).
@yc1494Tech Thats absolute rubish I know from personal investment that all intel has been doing for years and included in this investigation is the fact that intel is cashing in on the ensatiable apetite of lust for technology. Intel is a compant that has been rehashing technology we have had for over 50 Years and slowly releasing this technology tochnology but for a purpose that it was not designed . and always the same technology but changed pin design and board design.
@32ndegree lol.the technology isnt the same. the first 32 nm processor was released only this year, as well as 6 core processors. they have had to redesign the circuitry everytime they make a new processor due to the heat issue that comes with any processor. granted the boards and sockets have changed (something that happens everyhtime a new technology is released), but in no way shape or form are the i7s the same as every other technology released over the years.
@32ndegree although. i will agree. intel is sucking in money from the people that only want the best and the people who can afford their overpriced chips. thats why i am going to go with AMD from now on. i dont think ill ever buy intel again.
@32ndegree and. i used to think the same, that no one need this much power. but, for what i do on a daily basis, my P4 just aint cuttin it. so FUCK YOU intel.
I don't want to get into this religious stuff but I'm just gonna touch on a few bases here.
1:TheVedicStudent, I respect your religion I have no qualms with religious people directly, if it makes you happy, go for it. However, do not go around flaunting idiotic ideals/beliefs to a highly impressionable/naive world. Science exists, accept it, by resisting this you are exposing your own stupidity and narrow-mindedness.
2:This processor is the king of the desktop world, but you sure pay for it!
@TheBloodyhacksaw I7 980 is 3 times faster than x6 and 2 times the price. If you want performance, amd is not for you, AMD cant even compete with intel now and problably never again.
the weakest i7 is almost 2x the speed lol. amd uses old ass chipsets when intel makes a new one for a new family of sockets. hell they still support the AM2 boards like they just came out @_@
@guikibe2 But my AMD 550 Phenom II X2 3.1GHz cpu in my AM3 Motherboard runs games really good and it only cost me $100. at least with AMD you can afford performance! my next cpu i get will be the AMD Phenom II 965BE X4 3.4GHz, or the Phenom II 1090T X6 3.2GHz.
Lol. I guess your smarter then God. BTW: You cannot even create an atom let alone predict what is going to happen. Maybe you can guess the lottery number for today?
To bad these scientist and engineers (etc) cannot make a perfect Chip that will never need upgrading or never be outdated.
Look at sun for example..never needs any updates nor any inputs..who created this perfect universe which is much even more complexer then these chips..?
:) Yea. Thanks just a point..the complex thinking of how God sustains the World is just mind blowing. These assholes think they know how things work, but when you tell them about his greatness they tremble in their boots. Haribol!
Sun has been shinning for billions of years never needs any inputs from us nor any updates..so has the wind etc.. ALL other raw materials we cannot make just transform from earthly materials.. GOD IS GREAT!
You're an idiot. Do you think the sun just produces energy from nowhere and endlessly? It does so by fusing the nuclei of hydrogen atoms in it's core transforming them into helium and releasing the atomic energy coming from the fusion process. Eventually the hydrogen in the sun's core will be used up and it will "die", either by exploding as a supernova or by collapsing and turning into a black hole. If you don't know this basic thing about stars, don't even try to talk about a god.
Ohh Really your another dam fool. Why not make a sun then dumass if your so smart by transforming them into helium and releasing atomic energy. Your just average atheist and fool speaking out of your ass. Read dr frog story in my channel!
@TheVedicStudent I do believe there is a heaven. It's a magical perfect place where no one has to deal with religious idiots like you. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem I'm getting there any time soon.
Then your just another rascal in sheep's clothing. Now your coming out of closet of God conscious human being. You aren't a fool as I thought. Good work.
At least you have an impression of the hell you will going to. For an atheist that should be scary enough? Good work on creating your hell now. After death hope you live in peace their for few lifetimes.
i know all that dude because i also watch discovery channel, that youtube user is just religious and thats healthy for some people, i dont see the point in calling him/her an idiot, you lose nothing if that person believes in god right?
@xanthegreat1 I agree with you, I don't mind people being religious. But spreading wrong information to back oneself up on about a religious belief is a terrible idea and it's not fair to people who will read that and think it's true. The way I see it, who does that may as well receive the "idiot" title.
@TheVedicStudent And yet the sun will one day burn out as it exhausts all its hydrogen fuel, as with the rest of the stars in the universe, as all life shrivel and dies because there no longer is any energy to sustain it once all the stars themselves die out.
Take your religious bullshit somewhere else, like one of those wacky nutjob religious videos or a mental institution.
this processor is available at newegg for $1,140. So, in other words, if you got thousands laying on your desk, this processor is a BEAST!!!!
oooooo..... 6 cores all at 3.33ghz with 12mb of l3 cache and the "new" lga 1366 layout!!!! AMAZING JOB INTEL!!! now, please work on the price, lol. ;P
right, but a mac pro is a server, not a big deal compare a server to a pc..for a single cpu this(non-xeon) this is pretty impressive, and of course in the future we will see even i9 xeon, thanks to intel
to maximise this advance in technology the software programs must be written to take advantage of all the cores very few are.a mac pro 12core is going to be my next computer,so cool.
it says the the number of transistors "that can be placed" double.
You know i was giving it some thought and you don't have to have all cores in use to have a faster cpu. If all 8 cores are designed differently and the cpu can decide which core is fastest for the app being used. Then you have a faster cpu simply by having multiple core options.
It's all in programs of today. If a program isn't programmed to use threads, than having an overkill CPU isn't going to help much. I have an Intel i7 which a game, video encoder and a live feed going now...yet 4 of my core CPUs are idle. When trying to over kill the system, I can't get more than around 30% CPU usage. may sound really cool, but the system slows down due to the fact that the programs are not threaded and at the end, more or less, the system slows down.
Well, I think you answered yourself. For the tasks which wont be increased that much probably won't terribly matter, since general computer applications already run plenty fast enough.
That's true, but from my understanding companies already do that with servers and supercomputers. As for diminishing returns with multi-cores... I'm not sure that's strictly true. A prudent example might be the fastest computer in the world - the human brain. It's relatively slow, around 200mhz, but extremely parallel, thus has potential for enormous calculative power.
Recently a scientist(didn't remember the name)said that the speed of computer processors has limits,in other words,the speed of processor will stop at a certain point and won't go any further,so expecting 100 to 200 cores in a single processor is foolishness,because if one core can handle even 5000mhz,than 200 cores can 1000000mhz.And that kind of speed is totally overkill plus unnecessary,
CPUs have already hit their mhz limit, in any practical sense anyway, which is around 4ghz. Once you've got it that fast it's easier, cheaper and cooler to just add more cores.
You said it yourself, having 100-200 cores would make your comp extremely fast. Which is exactly what we want. And no, it wouldn't be overkill at all. There's a ton of stuff that takes a long time to do even on upercomputers (which already utilize 100's of cpus)
gamers? and u can get a shitload of screens on one pc.. some people do use computers to that extent and in 15-20 years we could all be using 40-100 cores who knows
i'm sticking with my i7 until I can get a huge difference in processing power. obviously this is better than the i7, but if the difference between them is almost unnoticable, why upgrade?
@metalmulisha98101 after the 3rd core, most games can't take advantage of all the processing power available. just look up the charts on tomshardware on how many cores most games now can use.
That may be true of games made TODAY, but it won't be of games going forward...
Also, I like not having to close down my browsers every time I want to play a game....
As it is, I can leave FF/Chrome in the background whoring up 1/3 of my RAM and STILL play COD5 at pretty much the maximum settings available @1600 x 1200 pixels, and STILL get good FPS.
NOTE: i say good cause the midrange i7's use the same architecture as i5, (socket 1156) these are the 8xx series models. If u have a core i7 9xx model, u should have no problems in a upgrade.
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mocarflotrix 7 months ago
AMD
thatmetalguy85 1 year ago
I know it's out there on the market but who the hell would use DDR3 800 on a Intel Core i series cpu. Talk about bottleneck. DDR3 1066 would be the lowers I would go on a Core i series cpu. DDR3 1333 seems to be the sweet spot. But with Sandy Bridge around the corner the 2nd gen Core i series will be able to take advantage of DDR3 1600.
SteelCity1981 1 year ago
@SteelCity1981 The X58 chipset doesn't support 800MHz RAM natively.
dchains 1 year ago
@dchains never said it did i was talking about the Core i series in general.
SteelCity1981 1 year ago
@SteelCity1981 Still don't understand what you mean, DDR3 800MHz modules don't even exist, they start at 1066MHz and up.
dchains 1 year ago
@dchains They do exist Go wiki DDR3 at the bottom you will see the JEDEC standard modules for DDR3.
To to mention go google....
Core i7 Memory Scaling: From DDR3-800 to DDR3-1600
SteelCity1981 1 year ago
@SteelCity1981 Even if they can scale down to 800, you'd be hard pressed to find one. Also remember that MT/s doubles up so in the video 800*2=1600MHz.
dchains 1 year ago
@dchains not really you can go to google shopping for example and they have a lot of DDR3 800. for sale. No it equals 400mhz DDR 800 equals 400mhz per channel.
SteelCity1981 1 year ago
@SteelCity1981 You just proved my point even more, DDR3 800 isn't widely available on the market, finding something on google isn't hard, plus there were only three modules are there and only two of them were for desktops lol, it's definitely not a common standard, it's more likely used in OEM builds..
And again, going back to your original post, the video isn't saying the RAM is running at 800MHz, it's running at 800MT/s and that doubles up to 1600. So again, you are wrong.
dchains 1 year ago
Proved what point? first you said they made no such thing in which you were wrong. then you said it's hard pressed to find, which i showed you it was for sale.
I'm right, you are the one that's not getting it If you breakdown DDR2 800 the memory clock rate is 200mhz x 2 per I\O bus clock channel = 400mhz per Data Rate. So you get a total of 800mhz MT DDR. You really don't understand how DDR memory works i suggest you wiki it and read up on how DDR 2 memory is broken down.
SteelCity1981 1 year ago
@SteelCity1981 I said they're not the easiest of memory to find, they don't sell them at places like Newegg etc. And the fact that you use Wiki as a source for your info is a huge realization that you don't have your facts straight. You have been corrected, take it as you wish. ;)
dchains 1 year ago
@dchains I don't have my fact striaght? Show me anywhere where that source from Wiki is wrong? I can show you many websites regarding the same diagram. Facts? straight? LOL you were the one saying there is no such thing as DDR3 800. you were the one that said DDR 800 Mt's equal 1600 which it clearly doesn't as i showed that The Mt per Data rate = 400mhz which gives it a total of 800mhz DDR Mt's. Anyone that truly knows about ram will tell you that. so lets not by hypocritcal here.
SteelCity1981 1 year ago
@dchains Futhermore just because they don't sell it on Newegg doesn't mean they don't sell them anywhere else. Newegg isn't the only e-retailer in the world. the fact that you disputed me over that their no such thing as DDR3 800 was the main topic, but you some how managed to twist it into other subjects to avoid the fact that you were wrong.
SteelCity1981 1 year ago
@SteelCity1981 Of course they're not the only e-retailer. And your original argument is false and has been correct.
dchains 1 year ago
@dchains lol what has been false you are still yet to provide anything other then your miss statements regarding ram i on the other hand have provided links to sites that explan ram to back up my claim furthermore the orignal argument which was DDR3 existing is fact you were the one that was wrong why don't you admit it.
"DDR3 800MHz modules don't even exist, they start at 1066MHz and up"
WRONG!
SteelCity1981 1 year ago
@SteelCity1981 You did not provide any links, only bullshit you think is fact that you read up on Wikipedia to spew off as fact. And shopping on Google? lol ya that really proved me wrong lol. All it did as i said was prove my point further, it proved that 800MHz DDR3 is so insignificant that it's NOT sold and any MAJOR e-tailers, no ones shops at shitty google.com. DDR3 800MHz is does NOT exist in the context of X58, which is what this entire thing is about. So you are WRONG!!! lol
dchains 1 year ago
@dchains Oh i'm sorry Wiki in regards to DDR2 800 wasn't a link Toms hard ware that even showed DDR3 800 in performance compared to other DDR3 rams weren't links? LOL I based those links to show your ignorence that you were wrong. I didn't need those links i already knew there were DDR3 800 out there I already knew how DDR worked, you on the other hand have no clue in which i had to provide you links so that you wouldn't be soo ignorant in the subject.
SteelCity1981 1 year ago
@SteelCity1981 I could go all day with this, but im not. As idiots will be idiots..
bye.
dchains 1 year ago
@dchains So you are admitting that you are an idiot when it comes to ram and how ram works and the existence of a ram product? LOL Yeah you saved yourself the trouble.
SteelCity1981 1 year ago
@SteelCity1981 I haven't admitted anything, there you go putting artificial words in my mouth just like you put artificial knowledge in your head.
Again, you have been corrected good bye!!!!!
dchains 1 year ago
@dchains I did so this was made up then "DDR3 800MHz modules don't even exist, they start at 1066MHz and up" Do you not read what you write? lol Again show me where the links that I provided were wrong... I have been corrected lol? you haven't corrected me in anything LOL. You were the one that stated there were no such thing as DDR3 800, you were the one the missread MT counts on DDR, and you were the one that stated the X58 chipset in which had nothing to do with the Core i series family.
SteelCity1981 1 year ago
@dchains I know you haven't admitted anything because you don't want to man up about admit you were wrong that there is DDR3 800.
SteelCity1981 1 year ago
@SteelCity1981 I will admit that i was partly wrong for not acknowledging that there was DDR3 800 RAM. As 1066 is native with X58, and due to the fact that it's not that common within the market. As each generation of DDR is released we see an increase in the memory speed standard to, so thinking in that context, i would of thought that 800MHz was left in the dirt with DDR2 and instead the starting frequencies with DDR3 was only 1066 and up.
dchains 1 year ago
@dchains Yeah. I mean i will agree with you that DDR3 800 support is pretty stupid. that's why i don't understand in my intital post why Core I 5/3/ Pentuim G series based on the Core processors would be supportive of it seeing how much of a bottleneck it would be. I can understand the Atom 5xx series supporting low speed DDR3 due to the fact that it still uses only 667mhz on chip FSB and the lower volts that come with DDR3 vs DDR2.
SteelCity1981 1 year ago
@SteelCity1981 Agreed. I thought the Core I series left 800MHz behind altogether, though i don't know who would actually buy 800MHz RAM if you're pairing it with a Core series chip.
dchains 1 year ago
@dchains I've seen a few budget pc's and budget laptops come with DDR3 800mhz, there was a gateway ID series laptop that had a core i330m with 4gb of DDR3 800 but of course those types of pc's are in the ultra budget category. Maybe from an ultra budget standpoint it makes sense to keep the cost low as possible, but anything beyond that is just stupid.
SteelCity1981 1 year ago
@SteelCity1981 Definitely, i think in those aspects 800MHz RAM is sufficient in most cases. For a more demanding user that really needs to have some speed it's useless. Sticking DDR3 800 in small OEM builds are something i can understand.
dchains 1 year ago
@dchains The only thing i can think of why intel intially supported DDR3 800 for the Core i seires was maybe because they weren't sure on what the pricing forcast was going to look like with of DDR3 when the Core i i5/3 series came out a year ago when DRAM was high in price a year ago. Sandy Bridge the 2nd gen Core i will no longer support anything lower then DDR3 1066. The even better news is that Sandy Bridge will support up to DDR3 1600 where the current Core series support up to DDR3 1333
SteelCity1981 1 year ago
@SteelCity1981 Socket 1366 supports 1600 + and thats part of the current core series.
hempheadfor20 1 year ago
@hempheadfor20 Try DDR3 1066. Wiki and Intel's wesbite state memory support types is DDR3 1066.
SteelCity1981 1 year ago
@SteelCity1981 Don't need a wiki to tell me that my asus p6t deluxe v2 is running 6 gigs 2X3 of DDR3 1600 thanks
hempheadfor20 1 year ago
@SteelCity1981 That's great but you are missing the fact that the Intergrated memory controller can only take advantage of DDR31066. thus is why intel's own website states DDR3 1066
SteelCity1981 1 year ago
@dchains You provide nothling LOL you stated and I quote once again... "DDR3 800MHz modules don't even exist, they start at 1066MHz and up" Was this or was this not what you said? It was so quit ignoring what you said and admit you were wrong. You used that no one sells DDR3 BS after the fact that you were wrong about DDR3 800 so that you can divert the orgignal debate in regards to DDR3 800 itself off topic from the fact that you were wrong.
SteelCity1981 1 year ago
@dchains LOL Where did i say it did on the X58 chipset? you were the one that said that my orginal statement was inregards to The Core I series family supporting DDR3 800 in "GENEREL"
SteelCity1981 1 year ago
@dchains Furthermore FYI the next gen atoms with use DDR3 800mhz, which will make DDR3 800 even more avaliable then it is now.
SteelCity1981 1 year ago
@SteelCity1981 That is correct, but of course Atom's are only used mainly in mainstream portable devices, netbooks etc So of course something like DDR3 is a nice leap in technology for that platform.
dchains 1 year ago
@dchains that all depends on the Cas. DDR2 800 with low Cas will outperform DDR3 800
SteelCity1981 1 year ago
@SteelCity1981 Depends on the application, sometimes speed can contribute more then latency. But DDR2 has lower latencies as it's an older standard, DDR3 latencies will comes down eventually as it gets more adopted into the mainstream.
dchains 1 year ago
@dchains Actually higher speeds compensate for higher latencies. That's just the trick of the trade, which is why you DDR 1600 for example is fast in speed due to the high latency it has to compensate for. Any slower speed with the same latency would make it bottleneck the performance.
SteelCity1981 1 year ago
1156 much better than 1136
callofdutyguy9 1 year ago
@callofdutyguy9 There is no such thing as 1136...there is LGA 1366 though.
And 1366 kicks the shit out of 1156 cpus
Seradeool 1 year ago
@Seradeool I can make a liquid nitrogen heatsink and over clock a 875k far beyond its stock speed
callofdutyguy9 1 year ago
@callofdutyguy9 So can I? I fail to see what that even has to do with what I said...
An i5 cannot beat a i7 simply due to the QPI bandwidth of an i7 is 4.8 GT/s while an i5 is only 2.5 GT/s
Seradeool 1 year ago
there will be no "i9" for some time if at all (its just 2nd gen i3, i5, i7) SANDY BRIDGE 22nm
719OG 1 year ago
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2point6x4 1 year ago
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2point6x4 1 year ago
So since the Core i7 Gulftown fits into a LGA 1366 socket, will the i9s work with this socket?
Sebastian2008 1 year ago
@Sebastian2008
don't know.
the i9 doesn't exist yet.
kimernstube 1 year ago
@Sebastian2008 there will never be an i9
GenuineMW2 11 months ago
Intel pwns AMD. Seriously, AMD Athlon is out of the question when contrasted with the new i-series! Intel FTW! ;)
ThePimz123 1 year ago
im an amd fan. did i hear something about amd bulldozer?
FlipUltraHD 1 year ago
only suckers buy a cpu for 900$+ i mean, you can get a opteron for almost the same price. and you will only get 12 MB cache total(in reality) becuase intels cache handling
adolf512 1 year ago
By the way this planet was suposed to be shered with all inhabitants.
32ndegree 1 year ago
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Thats absolute rubish I know from personal investment that all intel has been doing for years and included in this investigation is the fact that intel is cashing in on the ensatiable apetite of lust for technology. Intel is a compant that has been rehashing technology we have had for over 50 Years and slowly releasing this technology tochnology but for a purpose that it was not designed . and always the same technology but changed pin design and board design.
32ndegree 1 year ago
The song is 'Set me on Fire' by Killaflaw
xlneoMAXlx 1 year ago
i7 980x is not technically an i9. the i9 will in fact be a totally re-vamped chip and architecture. it was never introduced as the i9. that is not released yet and won't be for some time as they haven't finished even the 'design' elements yet. -good day!
aalegnani 1 year ago
i7 and i7 920 are barely different. seriosly no one needs this much power.
32ndegree 1 year ago
@32ndegree not true. you see those people, such as game developers and extreme multi taskers using this much power on a daily basis, especialy for video editing, 3d and image rendering, programming, and so much other stuff, that sometimes this much power isnt enough (although it may not seem like it to a lot of people).
yc1494Tech 1 year ago
@yc1494Tech Thats absolute rubish I know from personal investment that all intel has been doing for years and included in this investigation is the fact that intel is cashing in on the ensatiable apetite of lust for technology. Intel is a compant that has been rehashing technology we have had for over 50 Years and slowly releasing this technology tochnology but for a purpose that it was not designed . and always the same technology but changed pin design and board design.
32ndegree 1 year ago
@32ndegree lol.the technology isnt the same. the first 32 nm processor was released only this year, as well as 6 core processors. they have had to redesign the circuitry everytime they make a new processor due to the heat issue that comes with any processor. granted the boards and sockets have changed (something that happens everyhtime a new technology is released), but in no way shape or form are the i7s the same as every other technology released over the years.
yc1494Tech 1 year ago
@32ndegree although. i will agree. intel is sucking in money from the people that only want the best and the people who can afford their overpriced chips. thats why i am going to go with AMD from now on. i dont think ill ever buy intel again.
yc1494Tech 1 year ago
@yc1494Tech you get what you pay for in the computer world.
deluxedookie 1 year ago
@32ndegree and. i used to think the same, that no one need this much power. but, for what i do on a daily basis, my P4 just aint cuttin it. so FUCK YOU intel.
yc1494Tech 1 year ago
@yc1494Tech I do need this power, but not everytime, all the other time, it'll be used by boinc,
My E8400 is sometime use at 100% by some programs i use, not even games...
hyrael2 1 year ago
@32ndegree if you are a photograph or a video editor you need something like this
FSXHD92 1 year ago
if it makes you feel any better i have i7 920 - I'm just 60 away :D
Windsor617 1 year ago
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neephius 1 year ago
@neephius Shut up (y)
duggan360 1 year ago
Soundtrack - 'Set Me On Fire'by Killaflaw.
killaflaw 1 year ago
Just made a vid on my channel. Put the 980x under a Noctua NH-D14!!!!!! I believe it's spelled introduced.
Madblaster89 1 year ago
I don't want to get into this religious stuff but I'm just gonna touch on a few bases here.
1:TheVedicStudent, I respect your religion I have no qualms with religious people directly, if it makes you happy, go for it. However, do not go around flaunting idiotic ideals/beliefs to a highly impressionable/naive world. Science exists, accept it, by resisting this you are exposing your own stupidity and narrow-mindedness.
2:This processor is the king of the desktop world, but you sure pay for it!
ShinGaming 1 year ago
Still with the religious stuff. GET OUT if you are not going to talk about processors.
Thisisme365 1 year ago
Suck it AMD!
ikilluish 1 year ago
Six cores and it still has a stock 3.33 GHz. Why did AMD decrease the stock clock speeds of the 6-core Phenom II's? It can always be overclocked.
youngdones 1 year ago
@youngdones the amd phenom II x6 black edition has a stock clock of 3.4 with 3.8 turbo core(when using 3 or less cores) with open overclocking
TheBloodyhacksaw 1 year ago
@TheBloodyhacksaw This ones much faster though :)
hille32 1 year ago
@TheBloodyhacksaw I7 980 is 3 times faster than x6 and 2 times the price. If you want performance, amd is not for you, AMD cant even compete with intel now and problably never again.
guikibe2 1 year ago
@guikibe2
the weakest i7 is almost 2x the speed lol. amd uses old ass chipsets when intel makes a new one for a new family of sockets. hell they still support the AM2 boards like they just came out @_@
deluxedookie 1 year ago
@guikibe2 But my AMD 550 Phenom II X2 3.1GHz cpu in my AM3 Motherboard runs games really good and it only cost me $100. at least with AMD you can afford performance! my next cpu i get will be the AMD Phenom II 965BE X4 3.4GHz, or the Phenom II 1090T X6 3.2GHz.
2point6x4 1 year ago
Lol. I guess your smarter then God. BTW: You cannot even create an atom let alone predict what is going to happen. Maybe you can guess the lottery number for today?
TheVedicStudent 1 year ago
So will future chips use the LGA-1366 socket?
Mike41020 1 year ago
@Mike41020 Not in the future, but the near future will. FYI, its not going to change in the next year or 2.
MegaHolymoly 1 year ago
u dumb fuck I& u dick
lewisthemouth 1 year ago
I am confused why is this called i9 when it says i7 on the brand?
DreamRaider1111 1 year ago
@DreamRaider1111 the 980x was originally introduces as the i9. but then renamed to the i7 980x extreme edition
yc1494Tech 1 year ago
@01sean Lmfao I was looking at the comments and was like, wtf? Religion on a CPU video. Were suppose to argue CPU's and computer shit here!
MegaHolymoly 1 year ago
To bad these scientist and engineers (etc) cannot make a perfect Chip that will never need upgrading or never be outdated.
Look at sun for example..never needs any updates nor any inputs..who created this perfect universe which is much even more complexer then these chips..?
TheVedicStudent 1 year ago
i believe in god and i also like computers... what's so wrong with chips?
talking of god, he gave man the intelligence to do this kind of stuff and we are just taking advantage of what we are given.
xanthegreat1 1 year ago
@xanthegreat1
:) Yea. Thanks just a point..the complex thinking of how God sustains the World is just mind blowing. These assholes think they know how things work, but when you tell them about his greatness they tremble in their boots. Haribol!
Sun has been shinning for billions of years never needs any inputs from us nor any updates..so has the wind etc.. ALL other raw materials we cannot make just transform from earthly materials.. GOD IS GREAT!
TheVedicStudent 1 year ago
You're an idiot. Do you think the sun just produces energy from nowhere and endlessly? It does so by fusing the nuclei of hydrogen atoms in it's core transforming them into helium and releasing the atomic energy coming from the fusion process. Eventually the hydrogen in the sun's core will be used up and it will "die", either by exploding as a supernova or by collapsing and turning into a black hole. If you don't know this basic thing about stars, don't even try to talk about a god.
mathhenr 1 year ago
@mathhenr
Ohh Really your another dam fool. Why not make a sun then dumass if your so smart by transforming them into helium and releasing atomic energy. Your just average atheist and fool speaking out of your ass. Read dr frog story in my channel!
TheVedicStudent 1 year ago
@TheVedicStudent You didn't even understand what I just explained. Go study some physics for heaven's sake.
And yes, I'm an atheist. I don't need a make-believe god to enjoy my life, I can do it on my own.
mathhenr 1 year ago
@mathhenr
Ohh so you do believe their is a heaven, now you will be going to hell. Enjoy life with the pigs.
TheVedicStudent 1 year ago
@TheVedicStudent Hell, Underworld, Limbo, I don't care which one you believe on.
mathhenr 1 year ago
@TheVedicStudent I do believe there is a heaven. It's a magical perfect place where no one has to deal with religious idiots like you. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem I'm getting there any time soon.
mathhenr 1 year ago
@mathhenr
Then your just another rascal in sheep's clothing. Now your coming out of closet of God conscious human being. You aren't a fool as I thought. Good work.
TheVedicStudent 1 year ago
@TheVedicStudent Can't you tell when I'm making fun of you? Think again, Einstein.
mathhenr 1 year ago
@mathhenr
At least you have an impression of the hell you will going to. For an atheist that should be scary enough? Good work on creating your hell now. After death hope you live in peace their for few lifetimes.
TheVedicStudent 1 year ago
i know all that dude because i also watch discovery channel, that youtube user is just religious and thats healthy for some people, i dont see the point in calling him/her an idiot, you lose nothing if that person believes in god right?
xanthegreat1 1 year ago
@xanthegreat1 I agree with you, I don't mind people being religious. But spreading wrong information to back oneself up on about a religious belief is a terrible idea and it's not fair to people who will read that and think it's true. The way I see it, who does that may as well receive the "idiot" title.
mathhenr 1 year ago
@TheVedicStudent And yet the sun will one day burn out as it exhausts all its hydrogen fuel, as with the rest of the stars in the universe, as all life shrivel and dies because there no longer is any energy to sustain it once all the stars themselves die out.
Take your religious bullshit somewhere else, like one of those wacky nutjob religious videos or a mental institution.
r31ncarnat3d 1 year ago
@TheVedicStudent
I did.
hempheadfor20 1 year ago
this processor is available at newegg for $1,140. So, in other words, if you got thousands laying on your desk, this processor is a BEAST!!!!
oooooo..... 6 cores all at 3.33ghz with 12mb of l3 cache and the "new" lga 1366 layout!!!! AMAZING JOB INTEL!!! now, please work on the price, lol. ;P
bmw2go11 1 year ago
core i7 not i9...
66Metalforlife66 1 year ago
@66Metalforlife66 this was originaly introduced as an i9 CPU
yc1494Tech 1 year ago
its not i9..
prolol1337 1 year ago
@prolol1337 originally inrtoduced as i9
yc1494Tech 1 year ago
is the socket still 1366? please say yes.
jsutton414 2 years ago
it still is
nelizmastr 2 years ago 2
@jsutton414 yup same socket just bios update :)
ArmyofSeaturtles 1 year ago
yes
getlow1985 1 year ago
it is
psp785 1 year ago
@jsutton414 yes
feAr636 1 year ago
Jay finally i will eb play GTA 4 at reasonable framerate :D
Zblj1987 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Heh, or you get an xbx 360 and that game for like 1/10th of the cost and it'll be as smooth as the smoothest. =P
NoneImparticular 2 years ago
actually 360 has framerate issues even though it was made to play games, rather than do everything else a computer can do.
AndrewDaniele87 1 year ago
@Zblj1987 Intel has a xenon quad core and mac pro support two xenon quad cores which equals 8 cores so this will be slower
jon204 2 years ago
right, but a mac pro is a server, not a big deal compare a server to a pc..for a single cpu this(non-xeon) this is pretty impressive, and of course in the future we will see even i9 xeon, thanks to intel
DarkS3phiroth17 2 years ago
no its not. you need to buy two xeon processors to do the same job that one can do...
elchicoboy 1 year ago
to maximise this advance in technology the software programs must be written to take advantage of all the cores very few are.a mac pro 12core is going to be my next computer,so cool.
creamywhip 2 years ago
dude its six cores x 2 threads if HT is Enabled. it just means 2 apps per core flawless.
TYRONEBIGGLES 2 years ago
extreme decktop?
mastergiux 2 years ago
who sings that song, btw
foxmino 2 years ago
youre only telling jokes
ago94 2 years ago
24 cores? O_O
road2moon 2 years ago
No... 6 cores, each core can do 2 things... and I guess he has two whole CPUs in the system to make up the 24.
phopojijo 2 years ago
Naah..its tested on an embedded server with more than one intel i7 on it..
SynodCenturion 2 years ago
nah right now theres a SediC-COre?
TYRONEBIGGLES 2 years ago
So,.. whats the song name?
TheKottmur 2 years ago
You guys are stupid,
Moore's law doesn't say the speed of cpu's double
it says the the number of transistors "that can be placed" double.
You know i was giving it some thought and you don't have to have all cores in use to have a faster cpu. If all 8 cores are designed differently and the cpu can decide which core is fastest for the app being used. Then you have a faster cpu simply by having multiple core options.
Arkimedes999 2 years ago
I agree also the newest computers are probably 100 times faster then a 486 today.
TheMadOrc 2 years ago
It's all in programs of today. If a program isn't programmed to use threads, than having an overkill CPU isn't going to help much. I have an Intel i7 which a game, video encoder and a live feed going now...yet 4 of my core CPUs are idle. When trying to over kill the system, I can't get more than around 30% CPU usage. may sound really cool, but the system slows down due to the fact that the programs are not threaded and at the end, more or less, the system slows down.
OZtwo 2 years ago
Well, I think you answered yourself. For the tasks which wont be increased that much probably won't terribly matter, since general computer applications already run plenty fast enough.
Vire70 2 years ago
That's true, but from my understanding companies already do that with servers and supercomputers. As for diminishing returns with multi-cores... I'm not sure that's strictly true. A prudent example might be the fastest computer in the world - the human brain. It's relatively slow, around 200mhz, but extremely parallel, thus has potential for enormous calculative power.
Vire70 2 years ago
Tomorrow comes today! ( :
its my mine.
I'v the core i7..but its HAAARD
WoooW :D
please the song name:D very cool...
daweboy27 2 years ago
Recently a scientist(didn't remember the name)said that the speed of computer processors has limits,in other words,the speed of processor will stop at a certain point and won't go any further,so expecting 100 to 200 cores in a single processor is foolishness,because if one core can handle even 5000mhz,than 200 cores can 1000000mhz.And that kind of speed is totally overkill plus unnecessary,
awesomesoccerfan 2 years ago
Wrong wrong wrong.
CPUs have already hit their mhz limit, in any practical sense anyway, which is around 4ghz. Once you've got it that fast it's easier, cheaper and cooler to just add more cores.
You said it yourself, having 100-200 cores would make your comp extremely fast. Which is exactly what we want. And no, it wouldn't be overkill at all. There's a ton of stuff that takes a long time to do even on upercomputers (which already utilize 100's of cpus)
Vire70 2 years ago
it doesn't work like that (unless your a console manufacturer trying to trick people)
Hz (Ghz Mhz) are how quickly the transistors change. a cpu vs an identical cpu but with a higher Hz the higher Hz will win
it all comes down to transistor count, a higher Hz cpu vs 1 with 25% more transistors the more transistors will win
multi core is better because more people need the multitasking capabilities
ie if you have 2 cars that can go 50 mph it isnt the same as 1 car going 100 mph
andyp363 2 years ago
@awesomesoccerfan That scientist is stupid. But your even more stupid to believe it.
tech2kn0w 2 years ago
why does it show 24 squares
AGRcactus 2 years ago
As fast as Core i7 980x is, it still can't beat ATI STREAM or NVIDIA Cuda in terms of encoding videos.
MajinGotan 2 years ago
i cant wait to get this
alex61830baller 2 years ago
hex core o_o arn't they for servers and not so much for personal pc's
RedRay81 2 years ago
Damn...I wonder how much will it cost..considering the i7 price... :O but y need so many cores? We don't use all of them often niwaes... haha
Blackcandlez 2 years ago
gamers? and u can get a shitload of screens on one pc.. some people do use computers to that extent and in 15-20 years we could all be using 40-100 cores who knows
fergoway2go 2 years ago
gigabyte released a bios update with support for Gulftown yes!!!!!!!
histatimaniples 2 years ago
core i 9 is a bit overkill , only in the next 2 years will it only show its true pottential
Manewalis 2 years ago
i'm sticking with my i7 until I can get a huge difference in processing power. obviously this is better than the i7, but if the difference between them is almost unnoticable, why upgrade?
yermommy777 2 years ago
dude *facepalm* thats just like saying there is no difference betwen at dual and quad core
metalmulisha98101 2 years ago
@metalmulisha98101 after the 3rd core, most games can't take advantage of all the processing power available. just look up the charts on tomshardware on how many cores most games now can use.
yermommy777 2 years ago
hmmmm maybe but it would be future proof
metalmulisha98101 2 years ago
That may be true of games made TODAY, but it won't be of games going forward...
Also, I like not having to close down my browsers every time I want to play a game....
As it is, I can leave FF/Chrome in the background whoring up 1/3 of my RAM and STILL play COD5 at pretty much the maximum settings available @1600 x 1200 pixels, and STILL get good FPS.
SacredByte 2 years ago
Excuse my ignorance but would this cpu need a new type of mobo?
Would i be able to use the same mobo that the i7 uses?
3dot141 2 years ago
it uses the 1366 socket, same as the 'Good' i7's
NOTE: i say good cause the midrange i7's use the same architecture as i5, (socket 1156) these are the 8xx series models. If u have a core i7 9xx model, u should have no problems in a upgrade.
If the numbers are good, ill be upgrading :D
l2Bubble 2 years ago
ill stick with my e8400 for a bit :3
McNuggets010 2 years ago
i hope amd will strike back... i know, phenom II cant beat nor i7...
fzotya22 2 years ago
another kick ass cpu from intel that i won't be able to afford :)
Aragiss 2 years ago 7
win the lottery xD
LordofWar199215 2 years ago
I can
ryotaryuu 2 years ago
congrats i'll give you a medal :)
Aragiss 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
AMD new Cpu will beat this like the AM3 beat the core i7
67CopperHead 2 years ago
We don't know yet! What is AMD's 6 core called?
dkstyrere 2 years ago
bulldozer
ViniciusLimaRS 2 years ago
it is AMD will beat this? it is it will make 6 core 12 threads desktop processor. oh just quite no product to release. or in lab
zulboy45 2 years ago
am3 couldnt even compete with high end quad 2 quads...
devkamal 2 years ago
lol its the 28nm processor not 32..32 is the i7 processor..Lmaoo.! do some more research plz.!
clubfantasy9 2 years ago
Stop the video at 1:00 and look at CPU-Z. You can see it says i7, but it has 6 cores and 12 threads, so it's I9!!!
dkstyrere 2 years ago
yeah because CPUZ doesnt recognize i9's yet.
afreshreaction 2 years ago
you do some research too LMAO! the i7 is 45. the i9 is 32.
Ardonn 2 years ago 5