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  • Moral schmoral !!!

    If you have words like educated, thoughtful, reasonable and compassionate why do you have to even consider a buzzword like moral?

    Just say no to the creationists attempt to hijack human decency! Tell them we have that covered in a superior way without mixing it with guilt and sin and all the rest of the crap they want to shove down our throats to make us feel miserable for feeling joy and have lust for life and care for friends for no other reason than it feels good.

  • Pretty good educational video i guess. my view about christian morality, is that everything that is not of God, Jesus Christ, is immoral or sin, so then it cant be connected to the morality of the world, so yea he cant just say, atheist are immoral blah. Dude throughout the whole video i thought you needed to take a piss.

  • nice video, covered most of what i was thinking during that other dudes video

  • This is what happens when the FBI stops the X-Files project... Mulder turns Atheist.

    Boodoom Ting!

  • People call themselves agnostics, or atheists because they love their SIN. Judgement day is coming, Repent or Perish. doug

  • @veraberry

    lol

    One reason why I should choose your god over any other?

  • @veraberry When judgement comes the rationalists and people with good hearts will get a pat on the back, a good hug, and a push into the heaven they didn't believe in. They will, they will be laughing: Oh, there you go! What a nice surprise!

  • I am the Way, the Truth and the Life, no man comes to the Father but by Me. (Jesus) The surprise is knowing that you good works were not good enough when compared to perfection and that all your sexual sins will be held up as a testimony against you. You can be free of that!

  • @Ejolina i always thought even atheists could get into heaven if they are good people, other wise why would i wanyt to go there? what if you're a christian and you die and allah is sitting there with a chainsaw, saying, i tried to tell you man

  • @veraberry uh, no, you act out and bitch about everyone elses sin becasue you are worried about your own

  • I like this guy. Like a small town Mathew Broderock. Subscribing.

  • 無心論者です。 i , personaly use "god" ina rhetorical manner. like when i say "oh my god" i mean nothing by it :3

  • "a" is latin for from.

  • we're using the 'a' from ancient greek

  • I couldn't help but notice that you disabled comments on your "You are not an atheist" video, excatholics. Why?

    You seem to have no problem discussing your views... well, maybe discuss isn't the right word. A discussion cannot take place while you have your fingers in your ears - a tactic I've seen personally many times before. You seem to like to hear yourself talk, but don't want to listen.

    Quite ballsy to lock your comments, then go to other people's rebuttals to "discuss" - e.g. preach.

  • I noticed that straightaway as well--no comments, no ratings.

  • @excatholics still sounds like the planets a toruture chamber. if he made everything and is omnipontent, then he created us with our sin, knowing if we would go to hell or not, there is no free will in that. it's like buying a puppy, feeding it full, then locking it in a room ready to smack it soon as it shits on the carpet, only forever in fire, it's ridiculous. i even heard people say there are good people in hell. i ask you, do you not care about that? as long as you get paradise? that's not

  • @excatholics moral at all, you only do good becasue you get rewarded? i help people becasue i like to help people, not becasue i am threaten with the worse eterenity ever, that's just foolish

  • I'm not pretending, excatholics, but you are delusional.

  • @excatholics so are you really an ex catholic? or are you just trying to be a douche?

  • Atheist & other non-theist aren't going on & on about god cause we secretly believe in him. how arrogant can you be?

    The root of our disdain isn't god, it's his fan club.

  • so u dont belive in atheists cuz they talk about god? ROFLMFAO

  • @excatholics was your computer in the bible? then it dont exsist lol

  • Question: Please be honest. But as a atheist. Do you engage in Buddhist or Hindu practices such as Yoga or Meditation? If you do. You are in engaging practices of a religion. But I such is the case with most Atheist. This is a contradiction. That would indulging a form of worship of a god or gods.

    Yoga. The universal spirit Brahman or wisdom of confucius Tai Shi.

    And it's good you are not thinking of Jesus Christ when you are the bathroom

    Danny

  • practice yoga or meditation does not mean you are a Buddhist or Hindu People practice it to stress issues . I should know my parents are Buddhist.

  • Thanks for the video, I would like to tag my response along as the excatholic is not allowing response to his nonsense.

  • Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

    Their are many sections of the bible that advocate murder.

  • amoral - falling asleep...

    What if you fall asleep when you're supposed to be defending the earth from brainsucking ectopharks??? HUH??? Surely THAT's immoral??

    *cough*

    sorry...

  • lmao 3:30

    "lets get mutha fuk1ng thru this!"

    hahahahahaha......love it

  • Kenneth Miller, Roman, Catholic, Christian; concerning this man, how does he work out the first chapter of Genesis with the Evolution Theory.

    "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth" This is the first verse of the Bible :). It then goes on to say that the world and all that are upon it was created in six days, then God rest on the seventh.

    The first chapter of the Bible talks of a creator. You must accept that fact. The Bible is for creationism, and that Creator is God.

  • Part b

    Who define good or evil?

    If man defines it then it not permenant, and can shift according to society, situation and many things.

    If man define what is good or evil then what makes his definition better than anyone then.

    This generation is gonna be interesting. :)

    Read the story of Jonah, of the Bible?

    If you read it take note of when Jonah deliever the message of God to the people of Nineveh. Jonah told the message but didn't care if they listen, in fact he want them to die.

  • Part a

    Q: Who is a Christian?

    A: One that follows Jesus the Christ.

    Anyoneb regardless of the building(denomination) or establishment(man centered/selfcentered), that does not follow Jesus is not a Christian, they only have the title.

    Q. Can an atheist be moral?

    A. Yes they can be.

    My Question is why are they moral tho? If you live for the present life and only that, why not enjoy everything about it; what makes your moral standards better than another.

  • Hey, squarecircle, very good response, especially that it was well organized while not being scripted. One point though, I've often thought about Huxley coining the term "agnostic" which etymologically means "not esoterically knowledgeable" but does not exactly mean that in "modern" definition. In modern definition, there are many agnostics who hold a fair degree of esoteric knowledge but who would call themselves agnostic meaning they do not hold fixed beliefs and are continually learning.

  • Very well done.

  • I myself am a utilitarian atheist. I myself have never read a bible. Now many people around me talk about the bible and christianity. I, being the athiest I am, believe that happiness is of the utmost importance. Just stating that before I get into this.

    So they say man was created in gods image. So, maybe god(I use that term lightly) holds some ideals of just about every religion, although I doubt satanism would be included. That's just my opinion.

  • Agnostic Atheist here, just to avoid arrogance :P

    Great video.

  • you're a smart guy. and it was a very good movie.

    great work!

  • Good video. Calm, intelligent and clear. No insults, anger or anything negative. A lot better than I probably would have done! Especially as the video you are responding too is particularly, shall we say "antagonistic". 5 stars.

  • well said ... 5 stars !!!

    Yes you are absolutely right, people are people. This is always my argument, if religion is just like any other ideology that can be manipulated and twisted to ones immoral or moral objectives, then that's absolute proof there is no divinity in any religion because at the end it's your innerself that is really the judge of things.

  • I'm NOT an atheist, BUT you show a great deal more grasp and fairness than the Excatholic loonies. I've been banned from all their sites: I got a sole one-word response from them after reproaching them for their lies and distortions - predictably, it was "Repent"!

    BUT you should know the Bible more if you're going to deploy it: you have to read Marx and his commentators before attempting to refute him!

  • excatholics splaps himself on the back by posting this

    "134 comments and 1,195 hits-thanks for all those that took part in this debate.

    Nothing new was offered by any "atheist" and a couple even did their own videos in response.

    Look out for a SERIES on the silliness of atheism very SOON."

    So it appears that he also has a whole new definition of the word 'debate'

  • Good video. Reproduce soon.

  • Well done, squarecircle. I foolishly left a comment on excath's video to be told that it's 'pending approval'.  Quelle surprise!

  • The whole "You are not an Atheist" is a trick made by "Way of the master", a ministry led by Ray Comfort. The argument they are using is to deceive you into thinking that you're really an "agnostic" so they can then manipulate you into considering their ideology. It's really just a sales tactic.

  • Who are you again? Oh, right, you're that nobody I shouldn't have responded to a long time ago.

    Glad you want the viewers to make up their own minds. Maybe you'll accept this as a video response, then. No? Oh, so you're a liar? Well, whatever, I barely remember who you are anyway.

  • @excatholics You hypocrite !!! How dare you say things like "leave the viewers to make their own views" (oh, btw, make their own views up is incorrect, it's make their own views or make their own mind up).

    How dare you make such a statement when you disable the comments and ratings on your video; Basically you don't want to see what others have to say about your ideas but you have no problem commenting on another video. Who does that? You must be a special kind of idiot to do that.

  • Btw, your filthy mouth is the reason why people like you do more harm than good to your cause. "Atheism" is ones own god and therefore "accountability" to oneself is most absurd, silly and rather ridiculous, not to mention dangerous.

    On the subject of morals, as you cant agree to absolutes in good and evil, you cannot criticise atrocities around the world, because its survival of the fittest.

  • "'accountability' to oneself is most absurd, silly and rather ridiculous, not to mention dangerous."

    What? How in the world is this dangerous? This is the first time I've heard taking responsibility is dangerous.

    "On the subject of morals, as you cant agree to absolutes in good and evil, you cannot criticise atrocities around the world, because its survival of the fittest."

    Look up secular humanism.

  • ''"Atheism" is ones own god and therefore "accountability" to oneself is most absurd, silly and rather ridiculous, not to mention dangerous.''

    Atheists don't believe in gods to start with.

    I also don't understand your accountability remark. We are accountable to our families, to the law, to the government, our countries and so many more real authorities. Why would being accountable to an unknowable undefined being be not dangerous?

  • If you are accountable to an undefined undefined being is dangerous in the sense that people start to define it and put doctrine to it stating they know exactly what that "unkwowable" being wants. Its dangerous in that people will stop being rational to follow a doctrin they may or may not have a moral issue with. Take for example in the news about the woman who killed her children because she was told by this "undefined unknowable being" that they were going to hell if they stayed in this world

  • Or an ill child who died because their parents refused go to a doctor in favour of prayer and that "undefined unknowable" would save their child. Dangerous much? Being accountable to a god isnt the problem its the actions taken by theists that may harm others that is. Like 911? If a theist did something wrong now there would be no punishment or stop until the person is dead...that doesnt help those who are still alive so thats why people are accountable to the people they share the planet with.

  • Why? Psychologically, they are angry with Him for not helping them out. People wouldnt scream His name out if He didnt exist. Even words like Hell and Damn are Biblical. You cant escape it, Hes real and you know it!

  • "People wouldnt scream His name out if He didnt exist. Even words like Hell and Damn are Biblical."

    They're just words that happened to have integrated into the current English lexicon as expletives.

    It has absolutely nothing to do with the words themselves, other than the fact that they're considered profanity. Proclaiming loudly "fuck me dead!", one of my father's favourite expletives, has no correlation with a literal invitation to do just that.

  • 8.58 what a colossal waste of time, but I need to share my views with you, nonetheless:

    This presentation was a lazy, ignorant, juvenile and even laughable account for your religion.

    And no surprise, but I think you've deliberately misunderstood me. When people are in a real jam, they blaspheme the name of Jesus/God.

  • Methinks you are talking about your own nonsense.

  • That was a response to the excatholic, by the way.

  • Explain.

  • YOU ARE NOT AN AMORALIST!

  • How the hell did you manage to respond? His video finished ten minutes ago and I'm still drooling.

  • Thanks for the info, I'll check out those videos.

    I originally made this video not realizing excatholics didn't allow video responses. So I uploaded it anyway and tagged it exactly the same way and made the title in such a way that it should clearly be a response and come up in related videos when people view his.

  • Thanks square circle, great video. This shit needed to be cleared up, cause excatholic is a dumbass and hasn't a clue what he's talking about.

  • Quote from excatholics:

    "God does not love every one, this is an illusion started with "Liberation Theology" by the Liberal church of the 1960s so beware of them!

    Finally unless you repent, as commanded by the Lord Jesus in John 3:3, your final destination will be found with horrific detail in the Book of Revelation 21:8-9."

  • I agree 100%. Mr Excatholics does not allow video responses, he also censors the responses. I have been trying to debate him, but he says "your a fool so says god..." and never allows any debate that actually stands up to him.

    Good response

    squarecircle

  • wow all this makes me dissy o.0

  • I enjoyed your video, thanks for a really nice 8:58

  • You're welcome.

  • Christians can be very immoral in the name of god. And no one get's their morals from the bible. If they did Christians wouldn't be such hypocrites.

  • I'm not arguing those points. I don't care about them. Christians can also be very good people. Some of my best friends are Christians.

    I don't think that Christians are inherently hypocrites. I think it's a little hateful to say something like that, in fact.

  • Biblical ideals and morals are impossible to live up to if you're a fallible human being.

  • @dudev I beg to differ, some christians do follow the bible and the end up in jail. of course they can't follow the entire bible because the bible it's self is hypocritical. It contradicts it's self a lot.

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