so just becouse im a muslim im a terrorist i was flying the other day at the sucurity check point they thought my cousin was a terrorist he had a pound cake and a computer charger in his bag they thought it was c4 u idiot rasists dont know what your doing i belive in allah and im proud of it
Hell yes we should profile terrorists. We certainly do it with child rapists, serial killers, & other criminals in order to catch them. You've got to have your head up your ass or just want more attacks on America to not want to profile terrorists.
Profiling is common sense. Because of stupid liberals we have 5 year old white boys and girls being crotch searched while Muhammed walks through no problem. Go fuc yourselves
well since any one could be a potential terrorist we should just profile everyone, right palin? the most dangerous form of terrorist is the WHITE american with a suit and briefcase because no one suspects that person. so you are 'radical' and just downright racist for singling out one particular ethnic group.
He didn't start shooting at Ft. Hood because he was a radical muslim, get your facts straight. He started shooting because all of his patients that had talked to him told him they broke the rules of war and commited war crimes. He said he was going to say something and turn them in but he would have been ridiculed so he just lost it. I'm not saying he was right or wrong, it's a tough spot... Do you file a report on soldiers breaking the rules or keep your mouth shut. I wouldn't have said NEthing
No no Sarah, the problem is not that you're "radical or extreme, which you are" No you see the problem is that you are the MOST uninformed candidate for ANY PUBLIC OFFICE in the history of the fucking world. But I would just love to do you.
Take it from this American living in Mexico…if you think the carnage that I’m witnessing here in this country is grotesque, wait till the tribulation comes. Then you will see what the Muslims will do to the world!!!!
JESUS Loves you, and HE wants to Save you. Go to HIM in prayer today, before it is too late… and this “Land of Confusion”, as so brilliantly depicted by Genesis in their song…explodes into the war between the Muslims and their messiah, the antichrist, against us, the Christians in the West, the last remaining bastion of freedom in the Tribulation, and the Nation of Israel in the East…in the war that will end all wars!!!!! Amen!!!!!
Muslim is a religion of terrorism. The Koran is a book that was dictated in person by Satan to Mohammed. Who in turn was an agent of the Vatican, who created this false religion when true Christianity was spreading through the Middle East and Africa, as a means of obstruction. The 666 in the Greek, is nothing more than the symbol at the end on the Muslim flag. The Serpent that the Apostle John saw almost 600 years before there was even a “prophet Mohammed”…
Muslim is a religion of terrorism. The Koran is a book that was dictated in person by Satan to Mohammed. Who in turn was an agent of the Vatican, who created this false religion when true Christianity was spreading through the Middle East and Africa, as a means of obstruction. The 666 in the Greek, is nothing more than the symbol at the end on the Muslim flag. The Serpent that the Apostle John saw almost 600 years before there was even a “prophet Mohammed”…
@NechamaMoonStone They most certainly ARE innocent american lives, and we're protecting THEM just as much as anyone else when we acknowledge who is most likely to pose a threat at this point in history.
@ADEAL416 You seem to not have an actual understanding of Islam. Any true Muslim would be disgusted what so called Muslim extremists act out.
A woman in a Hijab does not pose any more threat than a woman wearing a Tichel, or a woman in a business suit. Racial profiling is what lead to 6,000,000 Jews being led to their deaths, all because of the stigma of being a Jew. As a Jew, and as a German, it is my duty to stand against racial profiling everywhere.
Nope, sorry, what led to the the Holocaust was a desire for GENOCIDE, not a desire to STOP attempts at genocide, which is what is behind the racial profiling necessary in this case. We are not "stigmatizing" anyone, we are recognizing where the majority of the threat comes from, and thus acknowledging that this is where the scrutiny should be. I understand Islam just fine, thank you very much, and I'm well aware that the real ones should be (and generally are) disgusted with the radicals
The problem is that since terrorists don't exactly wear a sign on their backs that say "Hi, I'm your friendly terrorist" we have no way of knowing who poses a threat and who does not without intense scrutiny, and it's pure and simply asinine to not put the focus of said scrutiny (not limited only there, because then they will find ways around that) on the population where most of the threat comes from. And those are statistical realities, however inconvenient they may be
And by the way, if there had been a small but significant sect of Jews who had openly declared their attempt to eliminate the nation of Germany, the Germans would have had EVERY RIGHT to single out Jews for more significant scrutiny, which, without a desire for genocide (which the Nazis had and we most certainly do not) one poses absolutely ZERO danger of leading to the other.
@ADEAL416 It is this type of thought that alienates American Muslims, and you cannot say it doesn't happen. I have witnessed it first hand the type of treatment they receive. And it sickens me. Someone's religion or ethnic background is no validated reason to scrutinize them.
Sorry, statistics demonstrate otherwise. If they are treated unprofessionally in the process of receiving said scrutiny, then our screeners are not doing their jobs and should be fired. But our policies have to reflect the situation as it actually IS and not how we want it to be. And if American Muslims are so short-sighted to not understand that this extra scrutiny protects THEIR lives as much as anyone else, then they're the problem if they can be "alienated" by us protecting THEM
@ADEAL416 I can honestly tell you that every single Muslim I personally know would not fall into your so called "statistics." Also, if you have even taken a simple statistics course, you know that they are almost always unreliable.
I came to the US to attend University, and as a student, I have been exposed to many different types of people. And it breaks my heart to see the discrimination that American Muslims face because of racial profiling and Islam-phobic media. I love my fellow man.
I love my fellow man too. I love them enough to protect them, whatever the hell it takes. It is not "discrimination" to recognize the reality of where the VAST majority of the threat comes from. I'm aware that most Muslims anyone may know do not pose this threat. But the threat DOES come primarily from that community, and we ignore that FACT at our own peril (and the peril of the overwhelming majority of Muslims who are innocent). And yes, I have taken statistics, and I know no such thing
@ADEAL416 If you've taken a statistics course and haven't learned that, you didn't learn anything about Statistics. The vast of majority of threat does not come from American Muslims. Therefore, to racially profile them is ridiculous. Racist. Bigoted. And utterly wrong.
@NechamaMoonStone Nope, it's paying attention to where the greatest threat comes from, and trying to pretend that fact away doesn't make it true. The facts speak for themselves. That's where ALL the airplane related terrorism in the last 25 or so years has come from. THAT statistic does not lie. Exotic ones, maybe, but these are pretty simple. And it's not "racist" or "bigoted" to acknowledge reality. It is DANGEROUS and DEADLY not to do so
@zakirnaikmuzzymonkey All terrorists are Muslims? Tamil Tigers are Hindu, RIRA are Catholic, Shining Path is atheist, Lord Salvation Army is Christian, Jewish Defense League (obviously Jewish), and I can continue if you wish. Historically what about the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, and the Russian Pogroms? Terrorism by definition is: "the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes." "muslims, - your number is up." Who's the terrorist here?
@DarkAnderebu And the TOTAL membership of all those other groups COMBINED is probably somewhere around 100,000 if that. The number of radical Muslims in this world numbers anywhere from 16 million to 160 million depending on the estimate. And we're not talking about the past here, we're talking about the PRESENT. Because that's what we have to deal with TODAY
@ADEAL416 100,000 total? Something tells me you need to check your numbers. Besides, that was only the beginning of the list. I can keep going if you desire. I just prefer to state those groups over and over because I hate wasting my time on things I know. I own a Qur'an which I have in fact read and am learning Arabic so I am beginning to read the Arabic texts as well. Real Christians don't commit genocide or bomb buildings (abortion clinic bombers in the US) Neither do real Muslims.
@DarkAnderebu So keep going and you MIGHT get up to 1 million, NONE of which have the desire of full genocide of two entire nations. "Real" Muslims may not, but that doesn't change the fact that there are anywhere from 16 million to 160 million who call themselves Muslims in the world who live for nothing but genocide.
@ADEAL416 Again I am pretty sure your numbers are horribly off on how many non-Muslim terrorists there are. In addition, you don't think there are genocidal terrorist groups of non-Muslim origins? The Aryan Republican Army obviously doesn't want genocide? No, of course not.... You realize that Al-Qaeda as of 2001 was estimated to only have 500-1,000 operatives? Meanwhile, the Lord's Resistance Army (Christian) in Uganda is estimated from 4,500-9,000. It's about insanity, not religion.
@DarkAnderebu Nope, sorry, they're not. And they certainly don't pose a genocidal threat. It isn't just Al-Qaida, it's all who espouse to their genocidal philosophy, which again, is estimated at anywhere from 1-10% of the Muslim population, so 16 million to 160 million. It's about insanity COMBINED with religious indoctrination. The Aryan Republican Army has NO resources, no support from any governments, nothing that would enable them to do ANY significant damage. Unlike Jihadists.
@ADEAL416 The fact the Aryan Republic Army has few resources changes their intent... how? Sure it makes one more dangerous than another, but you are not proving Islam to be the problem. You have only proven the radicals that believe they need to wage a war on the rest of the world are bad, which I agree with 100%. My problem with the man I commented against was that he said "all terrorists are muslims." and "muslims, - your number is up. soon, islam will be no more." He's a terrorist.
@DarkAnderebu I didn't say "Islam is the problem"--I said the VAST majority of the threat comes from the Muslim community. Two very different contentions. And yes, the person who said "Islam will be no more" is making terroristic threats (though ones that he I'm sure also has no power to act on). I said the problem is insanity, in this case COMBINED WITH religious brainwashing.
@ADEAL416 Then I don't see why we're disagreeing? I was targeting zakirnaikmuzzymonkey for the quotes I stated in the last comment. We don't seem to disagree other than I think there are higher non-Muslim terrorist numbers than you do. That's really not something I care to argue about. I want to stop racism and descrimination of religions. It was a fun debate nonethelessl. Think I'm going to stop it since we aren't argueing the same issue though. I'll continue if you want though. Not sure what.
@DarkAnderebu The only issue I'd take with your comments is that it's not "racism" or "discrimination" to acknowledge facts that are staring us in the face. We ignore those facts at our own peril (and the peril of plenty of innocent American Muslims as well)
@ADEAL416 What I meant when I said "to stop racism and descrimination of religions" is that I try to fight against racism and descrimination of many different kinds. I try to help people who are Muslim, Hindu, Wiccan, etc. as well as people of different ethnicities fight against those that spread hate against them without actually understanding them. Once more, those comments were directed originally toward the man that said all Muslims were terrorists and I thought you were supporting his claim
@DarkAnderebu Man you two keep going in circles. Here it is. I've been reading your back & forth and want to settle the matter once and for all. I'm an American Jew. To me the most prolific terrorists are Christians. Well come on now, look at history. The crusades, inquisitions, pogroms and holocaust. No one kills like European Christians. Millions upon millions. In this country the scariest bastards are the right wing Christian gangs. The US Nazi party, Birch society, the Clan to name a few.
I agree with Sarah 100%. And based on Jared Loughner's terrorist actions in Arizona, I think we should profile all white males between the ages of let's say, 16 and 30?
@StageMan231 I'm sure you said that to be funny because otherwise you obviously do not understand what an American is and that is really sad. I would bet money that if you don't look it up , you have no idea what profiling really means.
i am confused i dont know if your making fun of republicans and islamophobes or if your delusion, anyways its funny if your making fun hahahaha how can a nationality and a faith be the same thing? LOL
Fort hood didn't happen because of the lack of racial profiling. It happened because of incompetence. The signs were there and normal investigative intelligence should have caught it. It has nothing to do with left wing, right wing, chicken wing or any other wing.
@LadyTerj121 Should we have several lines at the airport? One for people with islamic names, one for people that look islamic, one for people that might be islamic, one for, the musician formaly known as Cat Stevens and one for everybody else?
@LadyTerj121 Should we have several lines at the airport? One for people with islamic names, one for people that look islamic, one for people that might be islamic, one for, the musician formaly known as Cat Stevens and one for everybody else?
@LadyTerj121 Should we have several lines at the airport? One for people with islamic names, one for people that look islamic, one for people that might be islamic, one for, the musician formaly known as Cat Stevens and one for everybody else?
I'm all for profiling, also. That's why I will never support a religious zealot like Palin for any kind of public office. In fact, I wouldn't trust her to clean my house.
gotta profile, sorry boys but that's the way it works...if not profile, then have your silly little political correct lives, and the next attack, the temperature of Mecca and Modina will become a balmy 5,000 degrees. War over
@AceofDiamonds0 LOL every one here seem to miss how non revilent her lame statement is ,being Muslim is a religon ,WTF does she think that people walk around with some sort of relgious ID exposed for law enforcement to read ? Or maybe she thinks they need to force Mosques to turn over membership lists. Muslims cover the entire spectrum of races,talk about useless idiotic ideas for possible legislation, ignorance at it's finest hour !!!!!!
then the terrorists will get people who don't fit the profile
white people, black people, asian people etc
there's plenty of muslims who are not arab, in america about 30% of all muslims are either white, black, or asian and many arabs themselves look white
so it's very easy to get round the profiling thing in fact profiling aids terrorism because A) it means they can use people who don't fit the profile and B) it creates more terrorists
You're damn right you're going to get clobbered for it, because you deserve to be. These two morons just feed off each other with their ethno-centric ideas. I get what she means, but her approach is all wrong. Looking for telltale warning signs if one thing, profiling is another, and she clearly doesn't know the difference. This is just another way of her appealing to her anti-liberal base, and it's pathetic. Worse yet, it's working.
They don't give a fuck about American lives. The last Republican president we had started a still ongoing war, lives are still being lost, and their pockets are still getting fatter. Palin is among the top 5 dumbest politicians of the century if not all time. George Bush tops them all if you ask me.
The perpetrator of the 2nd largest terrorist attack in the U.S. was a white guy with a buzz cut. Maybe we should profile about 75% of the military. And the asshole who flew the plane into the IRS building in Austin was also white and was bald. Maybe we should profile Bill O'Reilly.
Both Muslims and Arabs supported George Bush more than Al Gore in 2000. Now look at how they are being repaid for their support. This is why no racial minority should ever be a Republican.
Mccain lost because Fox news covered him. Period. Yea he had cruddy coverage from other media, but he was a war hero too and that's a good seller. Lost because radical conservatives came up and supported him, along with kicking out everyone but anglo-americans and pro-idiocracy.
She is a bad example of an American, Im sure that there are good intelligent people who dont belive the bull said by the media especially Fox. No wonder why Mccain failed miserably. With Palin and people like her the world is inly filled with hate and more hate.
@xxxxBilaxxxx There are. I'm one of them. You're absolutely right about Palin spreading hate,and she doesn't even realize she's doing it. She's a fucking moron who has seduced too much of my country with her sparkle instead of her knowledge.
I love how Palin is like ,"Because I use the word Profile I'm going to get clobbered." Kind of like Glenn Beck saying because i made a statement that seemed racist i'm going to get called a racist. So essentially if you go on fox news and say, " and because what i just said was really stupid, I'm gonna get called stupid tomorrow" then somehow you become this misunderstood victim.
@EnigmaHood If she should be in prison for saying that, then 95% of the peopel who oppose her would also be in prison for the hateful things they say about her. You're a bright one, let me tell ya.
@EnigmaHood Oh yeah? You think someone should be put in prison for suggesting we profile terrorists, the same thing we do with other kinds of killers. You think someone should be put in prison, to shut them up, to violate their constitutional rights of freedom of speech just because you don't like what they say, and you think I'm the dumb one? Well if I were like you, I'd want you put in prison for your hate speech (eye roll), but I'd rather you be allowed to say what you want.
If my family were boarding a flight home from abroad, and they happened to be on the 'underwear bomber' flight. I'd like to have had this religious extermist profiled! To stop him before blowing up the plane, my family, the innocent passengers, and untold carnage and destruction on the ground in Detroit, makes sense.
Yes, I'd like profiling. Don't you care about your loved ones? I surely do.
Your 'teabagger' comment really was beneath you, sir or madam.
On the issue of profiling muslims; absolutely. Well, are they all terrorists? Of course not. Does their religion require them to kill us based on our society and religion? Absolutely, and I'll debate that with anyone, so try me. So, they all have the potential for terrorist acts, and we should not hesitate for 1 second to cause every one of them a little additional discomfort if it has the prospect alone to save 1 American life. Education is the answer, ignorance is the problem.
Glad someone knows their history; how Hitler's SS, in need of manpower in 1943, easily recruited thousands of Islamic folk. I hope people looking at this post pause a moment and Wiki this infromation, then do a little research-learn a little history-you know, to use the modern phrase: "get their knowledge on"--and then come back and have a rational discussion. We need profiling at all airports for inbound flights, and full body screening too. Evil Islam.
I can see you've done little research indeed. A small number of Arabs did side with the Germans in WW II, but this had nothing to do with their buying into fascism; it had to with the British and French double-crossing them after WW I. The allies had promised the Arabs independence if they aided them in their fight with the Ottoman Empire. The Arabs upheld their end of the bargain, but the British and French did not.
After WW I, the Middle East was carved-up by the mandate system ("mandate" is a nice way of saying "colony"), with the British and French each receiving big slices. The Allies then went about the business of plundering Middle Eastern oil, etc., etc.
Oh, and what about Islam do you find evil? Especially when it stands in contrast to Judaism or Christianity?
All the european countries involved in WWI before, during and after the fact were horrifically wrong in too many ways to even begin to even touch upon here . Taking out the maps and drawing lines and aligning this one to that one, etc., etc. Maybe contact thru utube messages?
Good show.
Anyway, I realize that simply saying Islam=Evil is simplistic and deserves explanation/clarification. I'll try to post another reply right after this one.
Islam=Evil. How so? It's the wrong interpretation of scriptures that leads Islamic folk to post things on YouTube like: Jew-Eating-Rabbit. Look it up! I kid you not, this is disgusting! So little kids are taught hate before kindergarden nap-time. This is broadcast by Al-Jazeera, and approved by the Islamic clerics widely throughout the middle east. This is merely example #1. I'll try to contact you thru the msg. from utube, ok?
welcome to USA the land that HITLER dreamed of. the land that truly stands for NAZISM. LET US send muslims to camps also. no no i got better, let us everyone who follows laws of Prophet Jesus(pbuH) die, or do a good deed. this is usa if you dont like it you must die. no option to speak or defend.
@Mahdiarmy This is so funny to me. Do you know who Hitler used as an ally? No? A Palestinian muslim named The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Sheikh Ekrima Sabri. He brought muslims to fill hitlers ranks. There were entirely muslim ss divisions, and the sheikh served as a major in Hitler's army. Now, do you know why this happened? Because they had the same goal they do now, the genocide of the Jews and the occupation of Israel. I am not surprised you don't know this, so research it.
OH MY GOD... did heeeee... ohhhhhhh amazing... ONE SINGLE shiek you say huhhh????? lol you little retard... you compare 1 sheik with the millions upon millions of bishop and priests in europe.. not to mention the satanic states of usa.
u stupid ignoraant fool.. we need to mark your hand for your stupidity...people should avoid your useless brain. u take the price of all the most stupid reply i have got in my 3 years on youtube...shittt
really, 3 years on youtube and that's the "most stupid reply" you've ever gotten? It would have been a litttle better if you had even read my response, and by the way, I will bring my hand anywhere you want me to, and if you can mark it, it will be marked. I would be more than willing to give you that chance, but I will assure you, someone will be "marked", but it won't be me or my hand.
You don't seem to realize the obvious, namely that the overwhelming majority of SS divisions were German and therefore CHRISTIAN!! That there was a French SS division (also Christian), an Austrian SS division (also Christian), an Italian SS division (also Christian), and a Ukrainian SS division (also Christian).
Read the new testament. It says nothing about Christians being justified. If you are Christ-like thus the definition for the status of Christian you love those who don't love you back and don't try to kill those who have sin.
@Mrashnico It doesn't matter what age you are, the truth is as simple as nature and the bible lines up with history so why is it so hard to believe that I would try to defend the truth. I'm not out to get anyone, I just have a solution. and I'm trying to help you from being mislead like a lot of moral people are.
@ADEAL416 Knucklehead. Listen. The IDF flew 3,000 sorties over Gaza, and I guarantee they weren't putting civilians or anyone else on notice where the bombs were going to drop. Good propaganda,--BUT WHAT SENSE WOULD THAT MAKE?! You're smarter than that. If you tell civilians where you're going to strike, you're also telling Hamas. Hamas would simply flee with their AK47s, RPGS, and rockets right along with the civilian population. IDF killing is just as indiscriminate as Hamas's.
@profd65 THEY PUT THE ENTIRE AREAS FROM WHICH HAMAS WAS LAUNCHING ITS GENOCIDE ATTEMPTS ON NOTICE THAT THEY WERE ABOUT TO TAKE ACTION TO CLEAN OUT HAMAS!!!!! Those are called FACTS!!!!, not "propaganda" And no, Hamas would not flee, because they only care about continuing their genocide, so they won't flee to areas from which their rockets can't reach Israel, which is where the civilians had EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO GO!!! Nothing "indiscriminate" about that, buster.
@profd65 Not to mention the FACT that staying in those areas (and trapping the civilian population in with them) gives those monsters from Hamas a WONDERFUL REAL PROPAGANDA TOOL to have civilian deaths that THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR be blamed on the entity that they're trying to WIPE OFF THE FACE OF THIS PLANET!!!! Pretty damn good propaganda, since people will only think about the actual bloodshed and claim your bullshit about who's the one actually CAUSING IT!!!!!!!!!
Any offer that doesn't offer to dismantle Israel is "ludicrous" by your sick mind, since you don't acknowledge Israel's right to exist. But every one of Israel's offers would have been accepted if the Palestinians really wanted peace--THEY DON'T! Also, try to process another concept. Say police have to subdue an armed murderer and innocent people are killed in the crossfire. Guess who's legally responsible for such deaths? That's right--THE MURDERER--NOT THOSE WHO MUST SUBDUE HIM!!!!
@ADEAL416 I do hope you never go to work for the police department. The police are governed by all sorts of protocols designed to protect innocent lives. For example, they aren't allowed to drive 100 miles an hour through residential areas even if they're in pursuit of a fleeing felon. But I deny the validity of your analogy anyway. The IDF is not a "cop" and Hamas is not a "murderer". The IDF and Hamas both spill innocent blood, but the IDF IS MUCH BETTER AT IT.
@profd65 Yes, they are governed by protocols that they must ATTEMPT to protect innocent lives (which is EXACTLY what Israel does when they WARN CIVILIANS TO EVACUATE BEFORE COMMENCING MILITARY ACTION!! And yes, Hamas IS a murderer, actually several steps above that, a GENOCIDE PRACTICER!!!! And the IDF is charged with PROTECTING THEIR POPULATION, same as the police force. And when you shoot at an armed murderer and innocent lives are lost in the crossfire, THOSE ARE THE MURDERER'S RESPONSIBILITY
@ADEAL416 I don't deny Israel's right to exist since you bring it up. I favor a two state solution wherein the Palestinians are given everything that's owed to them according to International Law. Now, turn back the hands of time to the 30s or 40s and I would have advocated a one state solution: One multi-ethnic state with a liberal immigration policy and safeguards in place to protect the minority.
Your solution from the 30's and 40's would never have worked for reasons I don't care to go into right now because that's in the past. As to the present, I also favor a two-state solution WHEN the Palestinians prove that their state will be anything other than a base from which to ANNIHILATE ISRAEL!!!! Until then, NOTHING is owed to them under "international law"--nowhere in international law is it written that a nation that exists solely to destroy its neighbor has ANY "rights"
Especially not when they've been OFFERED "everything that's owed to them under international law" many times over starting with the UN plan of '47 and most recently by Olmert in 2007, and EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME, THEY HAVE TURNED IT DOWN IN FAVOR OF CONTINUED GENOCIDE EFFORTS!!!! GET THAT SIMPLE FACT THROUGH YOUR FEEBLE, THICK-HEADED, BRAINWASHED, PROPAGANDA HOODWINKED SKULL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Of course they know the offers would be turned down because they know full well their enemies have no interest whatsoever in peace. And no nation under constant BOMBARDMENT FROM CIVILIAN-AIMED ROCKETS WANTS "STATUS QUO" you uninformed psychopathic, genocide applauding nutcase!!!! What they want is a legitimate peace partner, which they have NEVER had. What's a "violation of international law" is TARGETING ANOTHER NATION'S CIVILIANS POPULATION WHILE HIDING BEHIND YOUR OWN CIVILIANS!!!!!!!
NO offer was "ludicrous"--they've offered full statehood time and time again for the bargain basement price of RENOUNCING TERRORISM AND ABANDONING THE 60-YEAR-OLD GENOCIDE QUEST!!!! Most recently under Ehud Barak in 2001. Now at least Netanyahu has insisted on a few security assurances, insisting that the Palestinian state give up ONLY those powers that would allow it to CONTINUE TO TRY TO WIPE ISRAEL OFF THE PLANET!!!! IT'S THE PALESTINIANS WHO AREN'T SERIOUS ABOUT ANYTHING BUT THAT
@ADEAL416 I asked you to bring me an offer that wasn't ludicrous. This is what Barak's Foreign Minister, Shlomo Ben-Ami, had to say about that offer: "...if I were a Palestinian, I would have rejected Camp David as well." (Democracy Now!--YouTube video)
Regarding a Palestinian State, there are always 4 sticking points: borders, refugees, settlers, and The Temple Mount. Israel's offers ALWAYS ignore INTERNATIONAL LAW on one or more of those points, and that's why they're always turned down
@profd65 Of course he would have--because he knows Palestinians are not interested in peace, and if he were a Palestinian, he would not be interested in peace, he would be interested in Israel's DESTRUCTION!!!! and since the offer didn't allow for that, of course he would have turned it down
The 2001 included ALL of those offers, except for settlers, and funny thing about that point is, in order for there to be actual "refugees" returning, the nation being required to give it must have actually MADE THEM refugees--Israel did not--their OWN PEOPLE DID!! Thus, their OWN PALESTINIAN STATE (when they prove that such a state will not simply be a base from which to ANNIHILATE Israel) is the ons who MUST deal with such refugees and settle them in the homeland they could have had years ago
And it is possible to be anti-Semitic but recognize reality. That's what happened with the UN. The knew that it a post-Holocaust world things could only last so long without Israel's right to exist being recognized, so they did. Doesn't mean they can't try to undermine it from the start, giving Israel the left over scraps and constantly attacking its right to protect its own citizens
No, anyone who fails to prove credibility by failing to condemn the ACTUAL TERRORISTS HERE (HAMAS!!!!) lacks credibility. You can say bad things about Israel without pretending that killing civilians unintentionally whom you have warned to evacuate many times over is on the same level as TRYING TO WIPE OUT AN ENTIRE POPULATION, WHICH IS UNASHAMEDLY WHAT HAMAS'S DESIRE IS!!!!!! All these sources fail that simple test of credibility.
The civilians are supposed to go to other areas of Gaza where terrorists are not using them to launch GENOCIDE ATTEMPTS!!!! Only the area within a few miles of the boarderwith Israel was used for this, and ths only this area was targeted. Hamas USED ALL OF THESE SOURCES AS ROCKET LAUNCH BASES, YOU PSYCHOPATH!!! INCLUDING HOSPITALS!!! TO FOOL GULLIBLE IDIOTS LIKE YOU!!! AND IT WORKED!!! No one was "murdered" MURDER IMPLIES INTENT!!! WHAT PART OF THAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!!
@ADEAL416 You really are big on making wild assertions to achieve a rhetorical effect. PROVE that Hamas's goal is genocide, PRODUCE one Hamas document in which genocide is a stated goal,--if you can't do that, have the intellectual honesty to quit saying it. If you reply, "We can infer it from Hamas's actions", I'd say that it's just as easy to infer from Israel's actions that its bent on Palestinian genocide.
IT'S CALLED THEIR CHARTER, YOU UNINFORMED FREAK!!!! READ IT, AND THEN GET BACK TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hamas was CREATED FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF DESTROYING ISRAEL!!!!! that's called GENOCIDE, you son of a bitch
My nincompoop friend. "Genocide" is the extermination of a race of people. It is possible (you would have to admit) to deny the validity of a STATE, to refuse recognize its LEGAL STATUS, and have no intention whatsoever of EXTERMINATING THE RACE OF PEOPLE LIVING IN THAT STATE.
Many Israelis deny the validity of a Palestinian State, they want all of contiguous Israel to themselves--by your logic, THESE ISRAELIS ARE GENOCIDAL.
Except that Hamas does FAR more than simply deny the existence or fail to recognize the legal status of Israel in its charter. READ IT!!!!!! They call for the DESTRUCTION OF THE STATE AND ITS PEOPLE!!!!!! That's a HUGE step forward from what you're claiming. Israel on the other hand, is what you're describing. They have no intention whatsoever of exterminating the race or people living in the territories that could have been a Palestinian state long ago had they valued this over genocide.
@ADEAL416 Every major human rights organization has stated that no evidence exists showing that Hamas used human shields or that Hamas commandeered ambulances. You again simply ASSERT that Hamas used hospitals as launching points--PROVE IT. The Gaza sky was buzzing with Predator drones, war planes and helicopters--SURELY SOME PHOTOGRAPH OF A HOSPITAL ROCKET LAUNCH MUST EXIST. Can you imagine the propaganda value of such a photo? But I've not seen one....
Then explain to me WHY civilians were still in the targeted area-- Israel's dropping warning leaflets giving the citizens AMPLE time to evacuate has been corroborated over and over again by EVERY credible news source on this planet. If Hamas was not using human shields, the ONLY other explanation for why those civilians were still there is that they CHOSE to martyr themselves as propaganda against Israel (which actually makes sense if you listen to interviews with Palestinian mothers)
They did ALL of the above buster. Had they not done so, NONE of their civilians would have died, because Israel DOES NOT TARGET CIVILIANS!!!! Hamas was voted into office because most Palestinians WANT Israel destroyed-Hamas was the one promising to do it. Israel and the U.S. "didn't like it" when they were voted in because THEIR CHARTER CALLS FOR GENOCIDE!!!!!! GET THAT FACT THROUGH YOUR HEAD!!!!! I agree that there are times when our support of democracy can backfire, and this is one of them
When you use civilian neighborhoods to launch GENOCIDE EFFORTS, that constitutes a hijacking. It also assumes FULL responsibility for ANYTHING that happens to the residents of that neighborhood when the targets of your genocide attempts have to put a stop to it. And again, if they didn't hold civilians against their will, the ONLY other explanation for civilians not evacuating when given the chance is that they chose to martyr themselves--which again, is a possibility as well
Except that the FACT that Israel WARNED CIVILIANS TO LEAVE COMPLETELY ELIMINATES THIS AS A POSSIBILITY!!!!!!!!! Dresden and Hiroshima were in different times, when there WAS no ability to distinguish between targets. Now there is, and that's EXACTLY what Israel does. EVERY SINGLE PLACE THAT WAS BOMBED WAS BEING USED AS A LAUNCHING PAD FOR GENOCIDE-INTENDED ROCKETS!!! GET THAT SIMPLE FACT THROUGH YOUR THICK-HEADED SKULL!!!!!!!!!
Considering some have said (as they hold their newborn babies) that their greatest dream for him/her is that they may grow up to be a suicide bomber, so that actually does make sense that they chose to martr themselves. But YET AGAIN, those warning leaflets prove CONCLUSIVELY that there was NO INTENT TO KILL!!!!!!!! Israel has no need for propaganda photos--the FACTS on the ground speak for themselves
"The facts on the ground", as you put it, are now buried in the ground: 1,300 Palestinians slaughtered (versus-what?-14 or so Israelis?).
Admit it, Adeal, Palestinian civilians were NOT given the warning or opportunity to flee. Had they been given this, THEY WOULD HAVE FLED: IT'S HUMAN NATURE. I've seen a YouTube video that shows Palestinian girls running inside because they see an Israeli surveillance BALLOON in the sky! Please stay within the bounds of common sense.
No sir, because yet again, the term "slaughter" implies a little something called INTENT!!!!!! INTENT!!!!!! INTENT!!!!! INTENT!!!!! Get to fucking know that term. And yes, they were given the opportunity to flee, it has been corroborated by every credible news source on this planet. It may normally be human nature to flee, but NOT IN PEOPLE BRAINWASHED TO BELIEVE THAT MARTYRING THEMSELVES TO SLAUGHTER "INFIDELS" GETS THEM 72 VIRGINS IN PARADISE. What does this "video" have to do with ANYTHING?
"manSLAUGHTER" by definition has no INTENT, INTENT, INTENT.
Did the 100s of WOMEN and CHILDREN slaughtered in Gaza, did THEY martyr themselves in order to score the 72 virgins in the afterlife?? Is that what you're saying, Adeal? Perverted.
As I already pointed out to you, Israel clearly didn't warn anyone before it attacked, because
IF YOU WARN THE CIVILIAN POPULATION, YOU ALSO WARN HAMAS.
Some of them very well might have chosen to martyr themselves, or in the case of the children, their parents chose to martyr them, in which case THEIR OWN PARENTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR DEATHS!!!! Yet again, you use the word "slaughter" which AGAIN, imples INTENT!!!! INTENT!!!! INTENT!!!! First you say manslaughter, which is the worst Israel can be accused of, but then you use another word that has no application here, unless there is INTENT!!!!!
See here's where you go wrong. They were fine warning Hamas too, because then Hamas had the same option that the civilians had--to retreat to areas from which their genocide-aimed rockets could not reach Israel, (or in Hamas's case TO STOP FIRING THEM!!!!) Israel's warnings to civilians are WELL DOCUMENTED BY MUCH MORE THAN JUST FOX!!!!!!!
At the sight of anything even remotely connected to IDF bombing (a surveillance balloon, for example) THE GIRLS RAN! That contradicts your claim that the Palestinians were martyring themselves, that they obstinately remained in areas they were told to evacuate, that they are freaks who lack basic survival instincts.--They're just like you and me.
THE IDF IS A GANG OF HOODLUMS: QUIT IDEALIZING THEM.
I didn't say they all were martrying themselves. I said that is one of 2 possibilities for why civilians were in the areas from which the rockets were being fired despite warnings to evacuate, the other being that Hamas trapped them where they were. I'm sure some still do have basic survival instincts--those who the vipers have not brainwashed yet to martyr themselves in the effort of genocide. I KNOW IDF soldiers, buster. You're WRONG!!!!! --no one tries harder to protect civilians
I know the rules they are held to in an attempt to protect civilins, I know they go after their OWN soldiers if they are even SUSPECTED of going after a civilian, I have talked with people who were actually responsible for dropping those very warning leaflets that you and your darling terror sympathizers deny existed. Sorry buster, the FACTS here do not jive with ANYTHING you['re saying
@ADEAL416 The crime of murder may require intent, but other crimes don't require intent,--manslaughter and vehicular homicide, for example. But let's be honest now. If you dump a billion dollars in US munitions on a penned-in area that has twice the population density as Chicago and kill hundreds of women and children, how are you going to claim that you didn't "intend" to do it? When you meet God and he asks you about it, you're going to say, "I didn't mean to do it"--?
I'll tell you EXACTLY how. You're going to tell the TRUTH--which is that the neighborhoods had been HIJACKED by terrorists using them for GENOCIDE LAUNCHES!!! You tell them the TRUTH that you warned those trapped by the terrorists to evacuate. Once you do that, you then must act to protect your own citizens--you have given them the chance to save themselves. If they CHOOSE not to, that's on them. If they're prevented from doing so, that's on those who prevented them
And even if I give you anything else on the crimes point, you've still conceded that the MOST Israel can be charged with is manslaughter, while Hamas deals in COLD BLOODED, FIRST DEGREE MURDER--OVER AND OVER AND FOR THE PURPOSE OF ANNIHILATING AN ENTIRE POPULATION--A PRACTICE HERE IN THE CIVILIZED WORLD KNOWN AS "GENOCIDE"!!!!!!!!!!!!
Islam is not the problem our government is. If you profile one group then you have to profile them all this is not NAZI GERMANY
christian4yeshua1 1 month ago
seriously? some americans genuinely wanted her to be president? i though the USA was a developed country? fuck me...
mmc786 2 months ago
so just becouse im a muslim im a terrorist i was flying the other day at the sucurity check point they thought my cousin was a terrorist he had a pound cake and a computer charger in his bag they thought it was c4 u idiot rasists dont know what your doing i belive in allah and im proud of it
AdeleoSpagetio 5 months ago
Hell yes we should profile terrorists. We certainly do it with child rapists, serial killers, & other criminals in order to catch them. You've got to have your head up your ass or just want more attacks on America to not want to profile terrorists.
jboritzki 6 months ago
She's "all for " profiling" , but to give her credit: she obviously doesn't know what it means
TheToke4Ums 6 months ago
@pelle2sho I agree she is a fu**en idiot, but Obama is awful shit also.
musicfan088 7 months ago
Don't be so hard on her guys, she thought profiling has something to do with Facebook.
instereovideos 8 months ago 5
Profiling is common sense. Because of stupid liberals we have 5 year old white boys and girls being crotch searched while Muhammed walks through no problem. Go fuc yourselves
ManofManyPasswords 8 months ago
This is a sad interview.... This is what makes America WEAK.
davejsmith 9 months ago
well since any one could be a potential terrorist we should just profile everyone, right palin? the most dangerous form of terrorist is the WHITE american with a suit and briefcase because no one suspects that person. so you are 'radical' and just downright racist for singling out one particular ethnic group.
martinn92 9 months ago
I don't think she actually knows what profiling is.
TheBigEase 10 months ago
He didn't start shooting at Ft. Hood because he was a radical muslim, get your facts straight. He started shooting because all of his patients that had talked to him told him they broke the rules of war and commited war crimes. He said he was going to say something and turn them in but he would have been ridiculed so he just lost it. I'm not saying he was right or wrong, it's a tough spot... Do you file a report on soldiers breaking the rules or keep your mouth shut. I wouldn't have said NEthing
SilenceSlayer224 10 months ago
No no Sarah, the problem is not that you're "radical or extreme, which you are" No you see the problem is that you are the MOST uninformed candidate for ANY PUBLIC OFFICE in the history of the fucking world. But I would just love to do you.
Loejyrrab 10 months ago
dumb
bitch
Blindianboy 10 months ago
Take it from this American living in Mexico…if you think the carnage that I’m witnessing here in this country is grotesque, wait till the tribulation comes. Then you will see what the Muslims will do to the world!!!!
ponchorhino 10 months ago
JESUS Loves you, and HE wants to Save you. Go to HIM in prayer today, before it is too late… and this “Land of Confusion”, as so brilliantly depicted by Genesis in their song…explodes into the war between the Muslims and their messiah, the antichrist, against us, the Christians in the West, the last remaining bastion of freedom in the Tribulation, and the Nation of Israel in the East…in the war that will end all wars!!!!! Amen!!!!!
ponchorhino 10 months ago
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Muslim is a religion of terrorism. The Koran is a book that was dictated in person by Satan to Mohammed. Who in turn was an agent of the Vatican, who created this false religion when true Christianity was spreading through the Middle East and Africa, as a means of obstruction. The 666 in the Greek, is nothing more than the symbol at the end on the Muslim flag. The Serpent that the Apostle John saw almost 600 years before there was even a “prophet Mohammed”…
ponchorhino 10 months ago
Muslim is a religion of terrorism. The Koran is a book that was dictated in person by Satan to Mohammed. Who in turn was an agent of the Vatican, who created this false religion when true Christianity was spreading through the Middle East and Africa, as a means of obstruction. The 666 in the Greek, is nothing more than the symbol at the end on the Muslim flag. The Serpent that the Apostle John saw almost 600 years before there was even a “prophet Mohammed”…
ponchorhino 10 months ago
So American Muslims aren't "innocent American lives"? Ah, stupid, stupid woman.
I'm not an American Muslim, by the way.
I'm a German-Jew.
NechamaMoonStone 11 months ago
@NechamaMoonStone They most certainly ARE innocent american lives, and we're protecting THEM just as much as anyone else when we acknowledge who is most likely to pose a threat at this point in history.
ADEAL416 10 months ago
@ADEAL416 You seem to not have an actual understanding of Islam. Any true Muslim would be disgusted what so called Muslim extremists act out.
A woman in a Hijab does not pose any more threat than a woman wearing a Tichel, or a woman in a business suit. Racial profiling is what lead to 6,000,000 Jews being led to their deaths, all because of the stigma of being a Jew. As a Jew, and as a German, it is my duty to stand against racial profiling everywhere.
That includes that of Muslims.
NechamaMoonStone 10 months ago
Nope, sorry, what led to the the Holocaust was a desire for GENOCIDE, not a desire to STOP attempts at genocide, which is what is behind the racial profiling necessary in this case. We are not "stigmatizing" anyone, we are recognizing where the majority of the threat comes from, and thus acknowledging that this is where the scrutiny should be. I understand Islam just fine, thank you very much, and I'm well aware that the real ones should be (and generally are) disgusted with the radicals
ADEAL416 10 months ago
The problem is that since terrorists don't exactly wear a sign on their backs that say "Hi, I'm your friendly terrorist" we have no way of knowing who poses a threat and who does not without intense scrutiny, and it's pure and simply asinine to not put the focus of said scrutiny (not limited only there, because then they will find ways around that) on the population where most of the threat comes from. And those are statistical realities, however inconvenient they may be
ADEAL416 10 months ago
And by the way, if there had been a small but significant sect of Jews who had openly declared their attempt to eliminate the nation of Germany, the Germans would have had EVERY RIGHT to single out Jews for more significant scrutiny, which, without a desire for genocide (which the Nazis had and we most certainly do not) one poses absolutely ZERO danger of leading to the other.
ADEAL416 10 months ago
@ADEAL416 It is this type of thought that alienates American Muslims, and you cannot say it doesn't happen. I have witnessed it first hand the type of treatment they receive. And it sickens me. Someone's religion or ethnic background is no validated reason to scrutinize them.
NechamaMoonStone 10 months ago
Sorry, statistics demonstrate otherwise. If they are treated unprofessionally in the process of receiving said scrutiny, then our screeners are not doing their jobs and should be fired. But our policies have to reflect the situation as it actually IS and not how we want it to be. And if American Muslims are so short-sighted to not understand that this extra scrutiny protects THEIR lives as much as anyone else, then they're the problem if they can be "alienated" by us protecting THEM
ADEAL416 10 months ago
@ADEAL416 I can honestly tell you that every single Muslim I personally know would not fall into your so called "statistics." Also, if you have even taken a simple statistics course, you know that they are almost always unreliable.
I came to the US to attend University, and as a student, I have been exposed to many different types of people. And it breaks my heart to see the discrimination that American Muslims face because of racial profiling and Islam-phobic media. I love my fellow man.
NechamaMoonStone 10 months ago
I love my fellow man too. I love them enough to protect them, whatever the hell it takes. It is not "discrimination" to recognize the reality of where the VAST majority of the threat comes from. I'm aware that most Muslims anyone may know do not pose this threat. But the threat DOES come primarily from that community, and we ignore that FACT at our own peril (and the peril of the overwhelming majority of Muslims who are innocent). And yes, I have taken statistics, and I know no such thing
ADEAL416 10 months ago
@ADEAL416 If you've taken a statistics course and haven't learned that, you didn't learn anything about Statistics. The vast of majority of threat does not come from American Muslims. Therefore, to racially profile them is ridiculous. Racist. Bigoted. And utterly wrong.
NechamaMoonStone 10 months ago
@NechamaMoonStone Nope, it's paying attention to where the greatest threat comes from, and trying to pretend that fact away doesn't make it true. The facts speak for themselves. That's where ALL the airplane related terrorism in the last 25 or so years has come from. THAT statistic does not lie. Exotic ones, maybe, but these are pretty simple. And it's not "racist" or "bigoted" to acknowledge reality. It is DANGEROUS and DEADLY not to do so
ADEAL416 10 months ago
@ADEAL416 You should too, despite what their ethnicity might be.
NechamaMoonStone 10 months ago
Not only am I against everything she stands for but her voice is worse than 200 nails scrapping a chalk board!!!!
Vokab27 1 year ago 2
all terrorists are muslims.
asshole at Fort Hood exhibited the precise pre-atrocity behaviour of suicide murderers.
muslims, - your number is up.
soon, islam will be no more
zakirnaikmuzzymonkey 1 year ago
@zakirnaikmuzzymonkey good luck converting/murdering 1+ billion people. Remember to take plenty of water and ammo on your personal crusade :)
tyu3456 11 months ago
@zakirnaikmuzzymonkey All terrorists are Muslims? Tamil Tigers are Hindu, RIRA are Catholic, Shining Path is atheist, Lord Salvation Army is Christian, Jewish Defense League (obviously Jewish), and I can continue if you wish. Historically what about the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, and the Russian Pogroms? Terrorism by definition is: "the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes." "muslims, - your number is up." Who's the terrorist here?
DarkAnderebu 10 months ago
@DarkAnderebu And the TOTAL membership of all those other groups COMBINED is probably somewhere around 100,000 if that. The number of radical Muslims in this world numbers anywhere from 16 million to 160 million depending on the estimate. And we're not talking about the past here, we're talking about the PRESENT. Because that's what we have to deal with TODAY
ADEAL416 10 months ago
@ADEAL416 100,000 total? Something tells me you need to check your numbers. Besides, that was only the beginning of the list. I can keep going if you desire. I just prefer to state those groups over and over because I hate wasting my time on things I know. I own a Qur'an which I have in fact read and am learning Arabic so I am beginning to read the Arabic texts as well. Real Christians don't commit genocide or bomb buildings (abortion clinic bombers in the US) Neither do real Muslims.
DarkAnderebu 10 months ago
@DarkAnderebu So keep going and you MIGHT get up to 1 million, NONE of which have the desire of full genocide of two entire nations. "Real" Muslims may not, but that doesn't change the fact that there are anywhere from 16 million to 160 million who call themselves Muslims in the world who live for nothing but genocide.
ADEAL416 10 months ago
@ADEAL416 Again I am pretty sure your numbers are horribly off on how many non-Muslim terrorists there are. In addition, you don't think there are genocidal terrorist groups of non-Muslim origins? The Aryan Republican Army obviously doesn't want genocide? No, of course not.... You realize that Al-Qaeda as of 2001 was estimated to only have 500-1,000 operatives? Meanwhile, the Lord's Resistance Army (Christian) in Uganda is estimated from 4,500-9,000. It's about insanity, not religion.
DarkAnderebu 10 months ago
@DarkAnderebu Nope, sorry, they're not. And they certainly don't pose a genocidal threat. It isn't just Al-Qaida, it's all who espouse to their genocidal philosophy, which again, is estimated at anywhere from 1-10% of the Muslim population, so 16 million to 160 million. It's about insanity COMBINED with religious indoctrination. The Aryan Republican Army has NO resources, no support from any governments, nothing that would enable them to do ANY significant damage. Unlike Jihadists.
ADEAL416 10 months ago
@ADEAL416 The fact the Aryan Republic Army has few resources changes their intent... how? Sure it makes one more dangerous than another, but you are not proving Islam to be the problem. You have only proven the radicals that believe they need to wage a war on the rest of the world are bad, which I agree with 100%. My problem with the man I commented against was that he said "all terrorists are muslims." and "muslims, - your number is up. soon, islam will be no more." He's a terrorist.
DarkAnderebu 10 months ago
@DarkAnderebu I didn't say "Islam is the problem"--I said the VAST majority of the threat comes from the Muslim community. Two very different contentions. And yes, the person who said "Islam will be no more" is making terroristic threats (though ones that he I'm sure also has no power to act on). I said the problem is insanity, in this case COMBINED WITH religious brainwashing.
ADEAL416 10 months ago
@ADEAL416 Then I don't see why we're disagreeing? I was targeting zakirnaikmuzzymonkey for the quotes I stated in the last comment. We don't seem to disagree other than I think there are higher non-Muslim terrorist numbers than you do. That's really not something I care to argue about. I want to stop racism and descrimination of religions. It was a fun debate nonethelessl. Think I'm going to stop it since we aren't argueing the same issue though. I'll continue if you want though. Not sure what.
DarkAnderebu 10 months ago
@DarkAnderebu The only issue I'd take with your comments is that it's not "racism" or "discrimination" to acknowledge facts that are staring us in the face. We ignore those facts at our own peril (and the peril of plenty of innocent American Muslims as well)
ADEAL416 10 months ago
@ADEAL416 What I meant when I said "to stop racism and descrimination of religions" is that I try to fight against racism and descrimination of many different kinds. I try to help people who are Muslim, Hindu, Wiccan, etc. as well as people of different ethnicities fight against those that spread hate against them without actually understanding them. Once more, those comments were directed originally toward the man that said all Muslims were terrorists and I thought you were supporting his claim
DarkAnderebu 10 months ago
@DarkAnderebu Man you two keep going in circles. Here it is. I've been reading your back & forth and want to settle the matter once and for all. I'm an American Jew. To me the most prolific terrorists are Christians. Well come on now, look at history. The crusades, inquisitions, pogroms and holocaust. No one kills like European Christians. Millions upon millions. In this country the scariest bastards are the right wing Christian gangs. The US Nazi party, Birch society, the Clan to name a few.
Loejyrrab 10 months ago 2
I am so scared of the possibility of Palin becoming President in America. She's going to destroy the world.
SharnsiR 1 year ago
Why don't they consider profiling stupid asses like her? She is a danger to America and a danger to the world too!
ArmenFirman01 1 year ago
She's pandering.
peraspira 1 year ago
I agree with Sarah 100%. And based on Jared Loughner's terrorist actions in Arizona, I think we should profile all white males between the ages of let's say, 16 and 30?
Russellrks 1 year ago 8
We know she is a great republican based on how much the lefties hate her. Most of you dems are mean, hateful, unpatriotic people.
edpleasure 1 year ago
@edpleasure ...I think you mean republicans are.
xpressin 1 year ago
@edpleasure And that's the barometer for measuring republican success? How much "lefties" hate them?
No one the US is seen as a divided country!
nukedco 1 year ago
How could anyone vote for this woman?
Batistta56 1 year ago
Muslims can't be American! That's ridiculous! WE MUST PROFILE THEM ALL!
StageMan231 1 year ago
@StageMan231 I'm sure you said that to be funny because otherwise you obviously do not understand what an American is and that is really sad. I would bet money that if you don't look it up , you have no idea what profiling really means.
mcrich303 1 year ago
@StageMan231
i am confused i dont know if your making fun of republicans and islamophobes or if your delusion, anyways its funny if your making fun hahahaha how can a nationality and a faith be the same thing? LOL
CaligirlSofia 1 year ago
Fort hood didn't happen because of the lack of racial profiling. It happened because of incompetence. The signs were there and normal investigative intelligence should have caught it. It has nothing to do with left wing, right wing, chicken wing or any other wing.
mcrich303 1 year ago
@pelle2sho your are a stupid commi piece of shit and need to learn a new word it's call common sence you fucking morron
oldsmar2 1 year ago
We should racial profile. It's the only advantage we have over the terrorists. COMMON SENSE.
LadyTerj121 1 year ago
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mcrich303 1 year ago
@LadyTerj121 Should we have several lines at the airport? One for people with islamic names, one for people that look islamic, one for people that might be islamic, one for, the musician formaly known as Cat Stevens and one for everybody else?
mcrich303 1 year ago
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@LadyTerj121 Should we have several lines at the airport? One for people with islamic names, one for people that look islamic, one for people that might be islamic, one for, the musician formaly known as Cat Stevens and one for everybody else?
mcrich303 1 year ago
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@LadyTerj121 Should we have several lines at the airport? One for people with islamic names, one for people that look islamic, one for people that might be islamic, one for, the musician formaly known as Cat Stevens and one for everybody else?
mcrich303 1 year ago
How bout we profile our leaders and analysts so people don't have to worry or hear you again you dumb bitch...
lmfaouser 1 year ago
how does this bitch function?
Baseball5030 1 year ago
I'm all for profiling, also. That's why I will never support a religious zealot like Palin for any kind of public office. In fact, I wouldn't trust her to clean my house.
fearguis 1 year ago
Unbelievable people actually support her. Un fuckin believable! This woman could have easily been our VP and heaven forbid our President!
Kdubslugga 1 year ago
gotta profile, sorry boys but that's the way it works...if not profile, then have your silly little political correct lives, and the next attack, the temperature of Mecca and Modina will become a balmy 5,000 degrees. War over
hansumjoe 1 year ago
@hansumjoe
so its ethier generalize a group of people based solely on the actions of a few radical extremists.
or drop an atomic bomb on hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians, again.
great choices.
AceofDiamonds0 1 year ago
@AceofDiamonds0 LOL every one here seem to miss how non revilent her lame statement is ,being Muslim is a religon ,WTF does she think that people walk around with some sort of relgious ID exposed for law enforcement to read ? Or maybe she thinks they need to force Mosques to turn over membership lists. Muslims cover the entire spectrum of races,talk about useless idiotic ideas for possible legislation, ignorance at it's finest hour !!!!!!
kamphwagon1 1 year ago
then the terrorists will get people who don't fit the profile
white people, black people, asian people etc
there's plenty of muslims who are not arab, in america about 30% of all muslims are either white, black, or asian and many arabs themselves look white
so it's very easy to get round the profiling thing in fact profiling aids terrorism because A) it means they can use people who don't fit the profile and B) it creates more terrorists
BlueLeopard200 1 year ago
@BlueLeopard200 Thank you for that, its about time we had some rational comment on YT.
nukedco 1 year ago
Palin left college in Hawaii because all the "ethnics" made her nervous.
loonmaniac 1 year ago
I want to put my wiener in her mouth
huckster699 1 year ago 2
You're damn right you're going to get clobbered for it, because you deserve to be. These two morons just feed off each other with their ethno-centric ideas. I get what she means, but her approach is all wrong. Looking for telltale warning signs if one thing, profiling is another, and she clearly doesn't know the difference. This is just another way of her appealing to her anti-liberal base, and it's pathetic. Worse yet, it's working.
misterzonker2584 1 year ago
They don't give a fuck about American lives. The last Republican president we had started a still ongoing war, lives are still being lost, and their pockets are still getting fatter. Palin is among the top 5 dumbest politicians of the century if not all time. George Bush tops them all if you ask me.
firstnamephil 1 year ago
The perpetrator of the 2nd largest terrorist attack in the U.S. was a white guy with a buzz cut. Maybe we should profile about 75% of the military. And the asshole who flew the plane into the IRS building in Austin was also white and was bald. Maybe we should profile Bill O'Reilly.
Palin, you twit!
dougmanjones 1 year ago
Both Muslims and Arabs supported George Bush more than Al Gore in 2000. Now look at how they are being repaid for their support. This is why no racial minority should ever be a Republican.
Wintermute01001 1 year ago
Mccain lost because Fox news covered him. Period. Yea he had cruddy coverage from other media, but he was a war hero too and that's a good seller. Lost because radical conservatives came up and supported him, along with kicking out everyone but anglo-americans and pro-idiocracy.
LordKaisen 1 year ago
im with her on that one
MrJasonz28 1 year ago
@MrJasonz28
How can you profile a Muslim. Please explain that.
Reqrezentin 1 year ago
She is a bad example of an American, Im sure that there are good intelligent people who dont belive the bull said by the media especially Fox. No wonder why Mccain failed miserably. With Palin and people like her the world is inly filled with hate and more hate.
xxxxBilaxxxx 1 year ago
@xxxxBilaxxxx There are. I'm one of them. You're absolutely right about Palin spreading hate,and she doesn't even realize she's doing it. She's a fucking moron who has seduced too much of my country with her sparkle instead of her knowledge.
misterzonker2584 1 year ago
I love how Palin is like ,"Because I use the word Profile I'm going to get clobbered." Kind of like Glenn Beck saying because i made a statement that seemed racist i'm going to get called a racist. So essentially if you go on fox news and say, " and because what i just said was really stupid, I'm gonna get called stupid tomorrow" then somehow you become this misunderstood victim.
codycaprio1 1 year ago
This is why she'll never be elected to office. She should be in prison for that hate speech.
EnigmaHood 1 year ago 9
@EnigmaHood If she should be in prison for saying that, then 95% of the peopel who oppose her would also be in prison for the hateful things they say about her. You're a bright one, let me tell ya.
jboritzki 6 months ago
@jboritzki And you're a dumb one, let me tell ya.
EnigmaHood 6 months ago
@EnigmaHood Oh yeah? You think someone should be put in prison for suggesting we profile terrorists, the same thing we do with other kinds of killers. You think someone should be put in prison, to shut them up, to violate their constitutional rights of freedom of speech just because you don't like what they say, and you think I'm the dumb one? Well if I were like you, I'd want you put in prison for your hate speech (eye roll), but I'd rather you be allowed to say what you want.
jboritzki 6 months ago
@jboritzki Shut the fuck up hick.
EnigmaHood 6 months ago
@EnigmaHood lol. Not a problem. Have a good one!
jboritzki 6 months ago
Scary, thank god she will never be president.
k1a1t1h1y1 1 year ago
We should start profiling right-wing teabagging government-is-the-problem types. Those persons are clearly terrorists who bear watching.
profd65 2 years ago
@profd65
Seriously now--
If my family were boarding a flight home from abroad, and they happened to be on the 'underwear bomber' flight. I'd like to have had this religious extermist profiled! To stop him before blowing up the plane, my family, the innocent passengers, and untold carnage and destruction on the ground in Detroit, makes sense.
Yes, I'd like profiling. Don't you care about your loved ones? I surely do.
Your 'teabagger' comment really was beneath you, sir or madam.
ThatMiserableCat 1 year ago
@ThatMiserableCat I completely agree! These liberals are all about "feelings" with no logic behind any of it.
allflight57 1 year ago
@Mrs.Palin,
my name is Khan and I'm NOT a terrorist
User19285 2 years ago
Whatever who said ONLY IN AMERICA !
was Right back then & IS RIGHT TODAY .
massimo38 2 years ago
god i hope she runs in 2012. it would either be an obama landslide or america would become biggest joke in the world.
ndesai256 2 years ago
Let's be profiling both Moslems and Alaskan skanks.
lumpagogo 2 years ago
It's amazing how she learned a couple of more words...
bassbart 2 years ago 36
Ms Palin. What do you think about the sings ignored b the Bush Administration in September of 2001?
Hulkamania4eva 2 years ago
On the issue of profiling muslims; absolutely. Well, are they all terrorists? Of course not. Does their religion require them to kill us based on our society and religion? Absolutely, and I'll debate that with anyone, so try me. So, they all have the potential for terrorist acts, and we should not hesitate for 1 second to cause every one of them a little additional discomfort if it has the prospect alone to save 1 American life. Education is the answer, ignorance is the problem.
watchhimgo27 2 years ago
@watchhimgo27-
Good Show!
Glad someone knows their history; how Hitler's SS, in need of manpower in 1943, easily recruited thousands of Islamic folk. I hope people looking at this post pause a moment and Wiki this infromation, then do a little research-learn a little history-you know, to use the modern phrase: "get their knowledge on"--and then come back and have a rational discussion. We need profiling at all airports for inbound flights, and full body screening too. Evil Islam.
ThatMiserableCat 2 years ago
@ThatMiserableCat
I can see you've done little research indeed. A small number of Arabs did side with the Germans in WW II, but this had nothing to do with their buying into fascism; it had to with the British and French double-crossing them after WW I. The allies had promised the Arabs independence if they aided them in their fight with the Ottoman Empire. The Arabs upheld their end of the bargain, but the British and French did not.
profd65 2 years ago
@ThatMiserableCat
After WW I, the Middle East was carved-up by the mandate system ("mandate" is a nice way of saying "colony"), with the British and French each receiving big slices. The Allies then went about the business of plundering Middle Eastern oil, etc., etc.
Oh, and what about Islam do you find evil? Especially when it stands in contrast to Judaism or Christianity?
profd65 2 years ago
@profd65--
Hello there again!
All the european countries involved in WWI before, during and after the fact were horrifically wrong in too many ways to even begin to even touch upon here . Taking out the maps and drawing lines and aligning this one to that one, etc., etc. Maybe contact thru utube messages?
Good show.
Anyway, I realize that simply saying Islam=Evil is simplistic and deserves explanation/clarification. I'll try to post another reply right after this one.
ThatMiserableCat 2 years ago
back@profd65--
Good, last one posted. All Right Then.
Islam=Evil. How so? It's the wrong interpretation of scriptures that leads Islamic folk to post things on YouTube like: Jew-Eating-Rabbit. Look it up! I kid you not, this is disgusting! So little kids are taught hate before kindergarden nap-time. This is broadcast by Al-Jazeera, and approved by the Islamic clerics widely throughout the middle east. This is merely example #1. I'll try to contact you thru the msg. from utube, ok?
ThatMiserableCat 2 years ago
Hitler loved Moslems and Japs.
lumpagogo 2 years ago
@watchhimgo27
OK--I'll debate it with you. I'll try you.
As a preliminary, prove your claim that the Muslim faith "requires them to kill us based on our society and religion."
profd65 2 years ago
welcome to USA the land that HITLER dreamed of. the land that truly stands for NAZISM. LET US send muslims to camps also. no no i got better, let us everyone who follows laws of Prophet Jesus(pbuH) die, or do a good deed. this is usa if you dont like it you must die. no option to speak or defend.
Mahdiarmy 2 years ago
what kind of fantasy are YOU living in???? Who ever said ANY of this!!!?????
ADEAL416 2 years ago
@Mahdiarmy This is so funny to me. Do you know who Hitler used as an ally? No? A Palestinian muslim named The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Sheikh Ekrima Sabri. He brought muslims to fill hitlers ranks. There were entirely muslim ss divisions, and the sheikh served as a major in Hitler's army. Now, do you know why this happened? Because they had the same goal they do now, the genocide of the Jews and the occupation of Israel. I am not surprised you don't know this, so research it.
watchhimgo27 2 years ago
OH MY GOD... did heeeee... ohhhhhhh amazing... ONE SINGLE shiek you say huhhh????? lol you little retard... you compare 1 sheik with the millions upon millions of bishop and priests in europe.. not to mention the satanic states of usa.
u stupid ignoraant fool.. we need to mark your hand for your stupidity...people should avoid your useless brain. u take the price of all the most stupid reply i have got in my 3 years on youtube...shittt
Mahdiarmy 2 years ago
really, 3 years on youtube and that's the "most stupid reply" you've ever gotten? It would have been a litttle better if you had even read my response, and by the way, I will bring my hand anywhere you want me to, and if you can mark it, it will be marked. I would be more than willing to give you that chance, but I will assure you, someone will be "marked", but it won't be me or my hand.
watchhimgo27 2 years ago
go back to irak you need more $ for your rent and computer
Mahdiarmy 2 years ago
@watchhimgo27
You are so funny to me.
You don't seem to realize the obvious, namely that the overwhelming majority of SS divisions were German and therefore CHRISTIAN!! That there was a French SS division (also Christian), an Austrian SS division (also Christian), an Italian SS division (also Christian), and a Ukrainian SS division (also Christian).
profd65 2 years ago
Read the new testament. It says nothing about Christians being justified. If you are Christ-like thus the definition for the status of Christian you love those who don't love you back and don't try to kill those who have sin.
blonderica09 2 years ago
And what is it blonderico09 that you believe in? 09? Wow, I'll bet you can stupify us all with your wisdon and intellect!!
Mrashnico 2 years ago
@Mrashnico It doesn't matter what age you are, the truth is as simple as nature and the bible lines up with history so why is it so hard to believe that I would try to defend the truth. I'm not out to get anyone, I just have a solution. and I'm trying to help you from being mislead like a lot of moral people are.
blonderica09 2 years ago
Her point is to upset liberals? She's a joke.
lhooq21 2 years ago
@ADEAL416 Knucklehead. Listen. The IDF flew 3,000 sorties over Gaza, and I guarantee they weren't putting civilians or anyone else on notice where the bombs were going to drop. Good propaganda,--BUT WHAT SENSE WOULD THAT MAKE?! You're smarter than that. If you tell civilians where you're going to strike, you're also telling Hamas. Hamas would simply flee with their AK47s, RPGS, and rockets right along with the civilian population. IDF killing is just as indiscriminate as Hamas's.
profd65 2 years ago
@profd65 THEY PUT THE ENTIRE AREAS FROM WHICH HAMAS WAS LAUNCHING ITS GENOCIDE ATTEMPTS ON NOTICE THAT THEY WERE ABOUT TO TAKE ACTION TO CLEAN OUT HAMAS!!!!! Those are called FACTS!!!!, not "propaganda" And no, Hamas would not flee, because they only care about continuing their genocide, so they won't flee to areas from which their rockets can't reach Israel, which is where the civilians had EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO GO!!! Nothing "indiscriminate" about that, buster.
ADEAL416 2 years ago
@profd65 Not to mention the FACT that staying in those areas (and trapping the civilian population in with them) gives those monsters from Hamas a WONDERFUL REAL PROPAGANDA TOOL to have civilian deaths that THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR be blamed on the entity that they're trying to WIPE OFF THE FACE OF THIS PLANET!!!! Pretty damn good propaganda, since people will only think about the actual bloodshed and claim your bullshit about who's the one actually CAUSING IT!!!!!!!!!
ADEAL416 2 years ago
Any offer that doesn't offer to dismantle Israel is "ludicrous" by your sick mind, since you don't acknowledge Israel's right to exist. But every one of Israel's offers would have been accepted if the Palestinians really wanted peace--THEY DON'T! Also, try to process another concept. Say police have to subdue an armed murderer and innocent people are killed in the crossfire. Guess who's legally responsible for such deaths? That's right--THE MURDERER--NOT THOSE WHO MUST SUBDUE HIM!!!!
ADEAL416 2 years ago
@ADEAL416 I do hope you never go to work for the police department. The police are governed by all sorts of protocols designed to protect innocent lives. For example, they aren't allowed to drive 100 miles an hour through residential areas even if they're in pursuit of a fleeing felon. But I deny the validity of your analogy anyway. The IDF is not a "cop" and Hamas is not a "murderer". The IDF and Hamas both spill innocent blood, but the IDF IS MUCH BETTER AT IT.
profd65 2 years ago
@profd65 Yes, they are governed by protocols that they must ATTEMPT to protect innocent lives (which is EXACTLY what Israel does when they WARN CIVILIANS TO EVACUATE BEFORE COMMENCING MILITARY ACTION!! And yes, Hamas IS a murderer, actually several steps above that, a GENOCIDE PRACTICER!!!! And the IDF is charged with PROTECTING THEIR POPULATION, same as the police force. And when you shoot at an armed murderer and innocent lives are lost in the crossfire, THOSE ARE THE MURDERER'S RESPONSIBILITY
ADEAL416 2 years ago
@ADEAL416 I don't deny Israel's right to exist since you bring it up. I favor a two state solution wherein the Palestinians are given everything that's owed to them according to International Law. Now, turn back the hands of time to the 30s or 40s and I would have advocated a one state solution: One multi-ethnic state with a liberal immigration policy and safeguards in place to protect the minority.
profd65 2 years ago
Your solution from the 30's and 40's would never have worked for reasons I don't care to go into right now because that's in the past. As to the present, I also favor a two-state solution WHEN the Palestinians prove that their state will be anything other than a base from which to ANNIHILATE ISRAEL!!!! Until then, NOTHING is owed to them under "international law"--nowhere in international law is it written that a nation that exists solely to destroy its neighbor has ANY "rights"
ADEAL416 2 years ago
Especially not when they've been OFFERED "everything that's owed to them under international law" many times over starting with the UN plan of '47 and most recently by Olmert in 2007, and EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME, THEY HAVE TURNED IT DOWN IN FAVOR OF CONTINUED GENOCIDE EFFORTS!!!! GET THAT SIMPLE FACT THROUGH YOUR FEEBLE, THICK-HEADED, BRAINWASHED, PROPAGANDA HOODWINKED SKULL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ADEAL416 2 years ago
Of course they know the offers would be turned down because they know full well their enemies have no interest whatsoever in peace. And no nation under constant BOMBARDMENT FROM CIVILIAN-AIMED ROCKETS WANTS "STATUS QUO" you uninformed psychopathic, genocide applauding nutcase!!!! What they want is a legitimate peace partner, which they have NEVER had. What's a "violation of international law" is TARGETING ANOTHER NATION'S CIVILIANS POPULATION WHILE HIDING BEHIND YOUR OWN CIVILIANS!!!!!!!
ADEAL416 2 years ago
NO offer was "ludicrous"--they've offered full statehood time and time again for the bargain basement price of RENOUNCING TERRORISM AND ABANDONING THE 60-YEAR-OLD GENOCIDE QUEST!!!! Most recently under Ehud Barak in 2001. Now at least Netanyahu has insisted on a few security assurances, insisting that the Palestinian state give up ONLY those powers that would allow it to CONTINUE TO TRY TO WIPE ISRAEL OFF THE PLANET!!!! IT'S THE PALESTINIANS WHO AREN'T SERIOUS ABOUT ANYTHING BUT THAT
ADEAL416 2 years ago
@ADEAL416 I asked you to bring me an offer that wasn't ludicrous. This is what Barak's Foreign Minister, Shlomo Ben-Ami, had to say about that offer: "...if I were a Palestinian, I would have rejected Camp David as well." (Democracy Now!--YouTube video)
Regarding a Palestinian State, there are always 4 sticking points: borders, refugees, settlers, and The Temple Mount. Israel's offers ALWAYS ignore INTERNATIONAL LAW on one or more of those points, and that's why they're always turned down
profd65 2 years ago
@profd65 Of course he would have--because he knows Palestinians are not interested in peace, and if he were a Palestinian, he would not be interested in peace, he would be interested in Israel's DESTRUCTION!!!! and since the offer didn't allow for that, of course he would have turned it down
ADEAL416 2 years ago
The 2001 included ALL of those offers, except for settlers, and funny thing about that point is, in order for there to be actual "refugees" returning, the nation being required to give it must have actually MADE THEM refugees--Israel did not--their OWN PEOPLE DID!! Thus, their OWN PALESTINIAN STATE (when they prove that such a state will not simply be a base from which to ANNIHILATE Israel) is the ons who MUST deal with such refugees and settle them in the homeland they could have had years ago
ADEAL416 2 years ago
And it is possible to be anti-Semitic but recognize reality. That's what happened with the UN. The knew that it a post-Holocaust world things could only last so long without Israel's right to exist being recognized, so they did. Doesn't mean they can't try to undermine it from the start, giving Israel the left over scraps and constantly attacking its right to protect its own citizens
ADEAL416 2 years ago
No, anyone who fails to prove credibility by failing to condemn the ACTUAL TERRORISTS HERE (HAMAS!!!!) lacks credibility. You can say bad things about Israel without pretending that killing civilians unintentionally whom you have warned to evacuate many times over is on the same level as TRYING TO WIPE OUT AN ENTIRE POPULATION, WHICH IS UNASHAMEDLY WHAT HAMAS'S DESIRE IS!!!!!! All these sources fail that simple test of credibility.
ADEAL416 2 years ago
Israel "blew the shit out of" ONLY the areas where HAMAS WAS USING THEM AS BASES FROM WHICH TO LAUNCH GENOCIDE!!!!!!
ADEAL416 2 years ago
The civilians are supposed to go to other areas of Gaza where terrorists are not using them to launch GENOCIDE ATTEMPTS!!!! Only the area within a few miles of the boarderwith Israel was used for this, and ths only this area was targeted. Hamas USED ALL OF THESE SOURCES AS ROCKET LAUNCH BASES, YOU PSYCHOPATH!!! INCLUDING HOSPITALS!!! TO FOOL GULLIBLE IDIOTS LIKE YOU!!! AND IT WORKED!!! No one was "murdered" MURDER IMPLIES INTENT!!! WHAT PART OF THAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!!
ADEAL416 2 years ago
@ADEAL416 You really are big on making wild assertions to achieve a rhetorical effect. PROVE that Hamas's goal is genocide, PRODUCE one Hamas document in which genocide is a stated goal,--if you can't do that, have the intellectual honesty to quit saying it. If you reply, "We can infer it from Hamas's actions", I'd say that it's just as easy to infer from Israel's actions that its bent on Palestinian genocide.
profd65 2 years ago
IT'S CALLED THEIR CHARTER, YOU UNINFORMED FREAK!!!! READ IT, AND THEN GET BACK TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hamas was CREATED FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF DESTROYING ISRAEL!!!!! that's called GENOCIDE, you son of a bitch
ADEAL416 2 years ago
@ADEAL416
My nincompoop friend. "Genocide" is the extermination of a race of people. It is possible (you would have to admit) to deny the validity of a STATE, to refuse recognize its LEGAL STATUS, and have no intention whatsoever of EXTERMINATING THE RACE OF PEOPLE LIVING IN THAT STATE.
Many Israelis deny the validity of a Palestinian State, they want all of contiguous Israel to themselves--by your logic, THESE ISRAELIS ARE GENOCIDAL.
profd65 2 years ago
Except that Hamas does FAR more than simply deny the existence or fail to recognize the legal status of Israel in its charter. READ IT!!!!!! They call for the DESTRUCTION OF THE STATE AND ITS PEOPLE!!!!!! That's a HUGE step forward from what you're claiming. Israel on the other hand, is what you're describing. They have no intention whatsoever of exterminating the race or people living in the territories that could have been a Palestinian state long ago had they valued this over genocide.
ADEAL416 2 years ago
@ADEAL416 Every major human rights organization has stated that no evidence exists showing that Hamas used human shields or that Hamas commandeered ambulances. You again simply ASSERT that Hamas used hospitals as launching points--PROVE IT. The Gaza sky was buzzing with Predator drones, war planes and helicopters--SURELY SOME PHOTOGRAPH OF A HOSPITAL ROCKET LAUNCH MUST EXIST. Can you imagine the propaganda value of such a photo? But I've not seen one....
profd65 2 years ago
Then explain to me WHY civilians were still in the targeted area-- Israel's dropping warning leaflets giving the citizens AMPLE time to evacuate has been corroborated over and over again by EVERY credible news source on this planet. If Hamas was not using human shields, the ONLY other explanation for why those civilians were still there is that they CHOSE to martyr themselves as propaganda against Israel (which actually makes sense if you listen to interviews with Palestinian mothers)
ADEAL416 2 years ago
@ADEAL416
Hamas did not use human shields, they did not "hijack" neighborhoods, they did not hold civilians against their will.--
If they engaged in such practices, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN VOTED INTO POWER BY THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE.
That is why Israel attacked Gaza in the first place: Hamas was chosen by the Palestinian People, and Israel and the US didn't like it.
So much for the vaunted American love of democracy.
profd65 2 years ago
They did ALL of the above buster. Had they not done so, NONE of their civilians would have died, because Israel DOES NOT TARGET CIVILIANS!!!! Hamas was voted into office because most Palestinians WANT Israel destroyed-Hamas was the one promising to do it. Israel and the U.S. "didn't like it" when they were voted in because THEIR CHARTER CALLS FOR GENOCIDE!!!!!! GET THAT FACT THROUGH YOUR HEAD!!!!! I agree that there are times when our support of democracy can backfire, and this is one of them
ADEAL416 2 years ago
@ADEAL416
I took your advice and read Hamas's Charter. It took a while--Thirty-Six Articles. But it was good advice, because
THERE'S NO MENTION OF GENOCIDE OF THE JEWS, NO MENTION OF A HAMAS "FINAL SOLUTION" TO THE JEWISH PROBLEM.
Sorry to disappoint you, Adeal.
profd65 2 years ago
There IS mention of DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL!!!!! That's called GENOCIDE!!!!!
ADEAL416 2 years ago
When you use civilian neighborhoods to launch GENOCIDE EFFORTS, that constitutes a hijacking. It also assumes FULL responsibility for ANYTHING that happens to the residents of that neighborhood when the targets of your genocide attempts have to put a stop to it. And again, if they didn't hold civilians against their will, the ONLY other explanation for civilians not evacuating when given the chance is that they chose to martyr themselves--which again, is a possibility as well
ADEAL416 2 years ago
There's another possibility too horrible for you to admit, namely: Israel indiscriminately bombed the hell out of the place.
WHAT MODEL BETTER EXPLAINS WHAT HAPPENED?
--ONE-HALF of the HOSPITALS were bombed
--ambulances were bombed
--mosques, minarets, and schools were bombed
--many hundreds of women and children were killed
...The "good guys" often DON'T care about civilian casualties, eg., Dresden, Hiroshima. It's not like Gaza was without precedent.
Kill today, "spin" tomorrow
profd65 2 years ago 2
Except that the FACT that Israel WARNED CIVILIANS TO LEAVE COMPLETELY ELIMINATES THIS AS A POSSIBILITY!!!!!!!!! Dresden and Hiroshima were in different times, when there WAS no ability to distinguish between targets. Now there is, and that's EXACTLY what Israel does. EVERY SINGLE PLACE THAT WAS BOMBED WAS BEING USED AS A LAUNCHING PAD FOR GENOCIDE-INTENDED ROCKETS!!! GET THAT SIMPLE FACT THROUGH YOUR THICK-HEADED SKULL!!!!!!!!!
ADEAL416 2 years ago
Considering some have said (as they hold their newborn babies) that their greatest dream for him/her is that they may grow up to be a suicide bomber, so that actually does make sense that they chose to martr themselves. But YET AGAIN, those warning leaflets prove CONCLUSIVELY that there was NO INTENT TO KILL!!!!!!!! Israel has no need for propaganda photos--the FACTS on the ground speak for themselves
ADEAL416 2 years ago
@ADEAL416
"The facts on the ground", as you put it, are now buried in the ground: 1,300 Palestinians slaughtered (versus-what?-14 or so Israelis?).
Admit it, Adeal, Palestinian civilians were NOT given the warning or opportunity to flee. Had they been given this, THEY WOULD HAVE FLED: IT'S HUMAN NATURE. I've seen a YouTube video that shows Palestinian girls running inside because they see an Israeli surveillance BALLOON in the sky! Please stay within the bounds of common sense.
profd65 2 years ago
No sir, because yet again, the term "slaughter" implies a little something called INTENT!!!!!! INTENT!!!!!! INTENT!!!!! INTENT!!!!! Get to fucking know that term. And yes, they were given the opportunity to flee, it has been corroborated by every credible news source on this planet. It may normally be human nature to flee, but NOT IN PEOPLE BRAINWASHED TO BELIEVE THAT MARTYRING THEMSELVES TO SLAUGHTER "INFIDELS" GETS THEM 72 VIRGINS IN PARADISE. What does this "video" have to do with ANYTHING?
ADEAL416 2 years ago
@ADEAL416
"manSLAUGHTER" by definition has no INTENT, INTENT, INTENT.
Did the 100s of WOMEN and CHILDREN slaughtered in Gaza, did THEY martyr themselves in order to score the 72 virgins in the afterlife?? Is that what you're saying, Adeal? Perverted.
As I already pointed out to you, Israel clearly didn't warn anyone before it attacked, because
IF YOU WARN THE CIVILIAN POPULATION, YOU ALSO WARN HAMAS.
--Think about.
I don't recognize Fox as a credible news source.
profd65 2 years ago 2
Some of them very well might have chosen to martyr themselves, or in the case of the children, their parents chose to martyr them, in which case THEIR OWN PARENTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR DEATHS!!!! Yet again, you use the word "slaughter" which AGAIN, imples INTENT!!!! INTENT!!!! INTENT!!!! First you say manslaughter, which is the worst Israel can be accused of, but then you use another word that has no application here, unless there is INTENT!!!!!
ADEAL416 2 years ago
See here's where you go wrong. They were fine warning Hamas too, because then Hamas had the same option that the civilians had--to retreat to areas from which their genocide-aimed rockets could not reach Israel, (or in Hamas's case TO STOP FIRING THEM!!!!) Israel's warnings to civilians are WELL DOCUMENTED BY MUCH MORE THAN JUST FOX!!!!!!!
ADEAL416 2 years ago
You didn't get the point of the video?
At the sight of anything even remotely connected to IDF bombing (a surveillance balloon, for example) THE GIRLS RAN! That contradicts your claim that the Palestinians were martyring themselves, that they obstinately remained in areas they were told to evacuate, that they are freaks who lack basic survival instincts.--They're just like you and me.
THE IDF IS A GANG OF HOODLUMS: QUIT IDEALIZING THEM.
profd65 2 years ago
I didn't say they all were martrying themselves. I said that is one of 2 possibilities for why civilians were in the areas from which the rockets were being fired despite warnings to evacuate, the other being that Hamas trapped them where they were. I'm sure some still do have basic survival instincts--those who the vipers have not brainwashed yet to martyr themselves in the effort of genocide. I KNOW IDF soldiers, buster. You're WRONG!!!!! --no one tries harder to protect civilians
ADEAL416 2 years ago
I know the rules they are held to in an attempt to protect civilins, I know they go after their OWN soldiers if they are even SUSPECTED of going after a civilian, I have talked with people who were actually responsible for dropping those very warning leaflets that you and your darling terror sympathizers deny existed. Sorry buster, the FACTS here do not jive with ANYTHING you['re saying
ADEAL416 2 years ago
@ADEAL416 The crime of murder may require intent, but other crimes don't require intent,--manslaughter and vehicular homicide, for example. But let's be honest now. If you dump a billion dollars in US munitions on a penned-in area that has twice the population density as Chicago and kill hundreds of women and children, how are you going to claim that you didn't "intend" to do it? When you meet God and he asks you about it, you're going to say, "I didn't mean to do it"--?
profd65 2 years ago
I'll tell you EXACTLY how. You're going to tell the TRUTH--which is that the neighborhoods had been HIJACKED by terrorists using them for GENOCIDE LAUNCHES!!! You tell them the TRUTH that you warned those trapped by the terrorists to evacuate. Once you do that, you then must act to protect your own citizens--you have given them the chance to save themselves. If they CHOOSE not to, that's on them. If they're prevented from doing so, that's on those who prevented them
ADEAL416 2 years ago
And even if I give you anything else on the crimes point, you've still conceded that the MOST Israel can be charged with is manslaughter, while Hamas deals in COLD BLOODED, FIRST DEGREE MURDER--OVER AND OVER AND FOR THE PURPOSE OF ANNIHILATING AN ENTIRE POPULATION--A PRACTICE HERE IN THE CIVILIZED WORLD KNOWN AS "GENOCIDE"!!!!!!!!!!!!
ADEAL416 2 years ago