The Day in 100 Seconds: Let's Go to the Hats

[tavadon777]

There is no place for your hatred, please, you do more harm to your side then good, try logic and reason and not just emotion. btw im a liberal

[kh739]

I'm a liberal too.

you're a racist fag

[dylanbryson]

Obama lied and a nation died.

[tavadon777]

Yeah a nation died after less then 5 months in office...ok...

[dylanbryson]

well you arn't arguing that he is a liar... worse than bush.

but give it time. the fall of the american empire is inevitable... unfortunatly

[tavadon777]

all politicians lie... It is impossible not to, and do not say it isn't, we all know it would be ideal for a completely honest politician but they would never get elected due to the way our political system is set up and the gap between the left and the right. my challenge to you, other then your dislike of the man, is to show me exactly how our nation has died, or will die due to Obama... other then sensationalism.

[dylanbryson]

Hes overinflating the currency. This is how empires usually collapse... well its not exactly him making the decision, we all know the country is run by international bankers... or at least that WAS common knowledge

[kh739]

it's ONLY 2.8 TRILLION :D

He can always print more ;)

But we need health care NOW.

We need it so badly that it won't be available until 2013

keep your head up, this fucker can't stay in forever...

[ThanksSaintJoseph]

"Commander in chief"? Barrack Hussien Obama is not President! Where's the birth certificate? Or should I say Barry Sotero?

[ilikepie11111]

... just shut up.

[ThanksSaintJoseph]

Why? This is a serious matter and many don't seem to care because their caught up in hysterical Obama Mania. The man is not Constitutionally President and has fought more than a hlf dozen court cases in order to not have to show his original birth certificate. The more people he appoints and laws he passes the bigger mess we'll have when we find he's not president and their all invalid. Whoever doesn't care about this issue doesn't care about the US Constitution and consequently our country.

[MadDogOfist]

No. You're wrong. A copy of his birth certificate is available online and has been ratified by even the most rabid of right wing mouthpieces. He has never fought a court case over it. Why don't you educate yourself about issues rather than attack in this perplexing manner. You can easily look to such things as the idea of permanently holding prisoners from Guantanamo without trial as being unconstitutional - and Obama is suggesting we do that. You're just a buzzword peddling imbecile.

[ilikepie11111]

right. because republicans just LOOOOVE the constitution. let's seeeee, OH! like passing that patriot act for example. bottom line, you're mad because WE won, and YOU lost, because your guy was stupid, and america didn't want another one.

[cArNiVal015]

go die

his middle name isn't scary. got it?

[exolonionocleus]

I like torture. Especially when its done to muslims.

[onerpone]

ITS OFFICIAL! I now despise Barack Obama as much as George W. Bush1He refuses to pressure the Attorney General to PROSECUTE Bush for his illegal WIRE TAPPING and TORTURING ways.Its becoming real clear that our government tortured detainees not for information but for forced confessions2He's NOT pushing for Single Payer Health Care3He's killing innocent civilians in Afghanistan and is killing Americans troops in these failed 2 wars he refuses to end. Even the NY Times says he's Dick Cheneys BITCH

[XxRoscoxX]

ya tortue was never TRULY illegal until a couple weeks ago, if i remember correctly. No i don't agree with the torture, but still, lets get the facts straight.

[CarryANation2]

Roscoe, Ronald Reagan signed a law making torture illegal, it's been illegal for a very long time.

[tomanyasses]

you want to feel torture try acid down your wind pipe getting to you lung, you will suffer so much you will think you will die. it happened to me and i have had water in my lungs its not even close to acid in the lungs

[DoctorMeh]

So many people led by the silly notion that water boarding feels like choking in a the pool when they were a kid, prattling on with your anecdotal "evidence"

This technique specifically stimulates a couple different reflexes that cause an involuntary panic/pain reaction. It. Is. Not. Choking. It actually the very reaction that you described with the acid.

[TheKINGofLIGHT]

The Navy Seals who were waterboarded as part of their training to prepare them for capture during the Vietnam War made a pact to die fighting rather than being captured with the possibility of waterboarding. The toughest men the USA produces consider waterboarding torture so vile they would rather die. That says it all.

[l1nuxun1l]

Waterboarding is not torture, most people have never even seen someone being tortured.

Go over to China or North Korea, they will show you torture...

Stupid liberals.

[1170bxl]

are you an idiot?

[l1nuxun1l]

listen buddy you want torture, pull out someones finger nails, and slowly i might add. just like the chinese. Peel back someones cornea while they are awake and stir their eye fluid around. Put a hot coal in someones throat, thats torture. Waterboarding might not be fun, but it sure as hell isnt torture.

[republicanfacistsdie]

I respectfully disagree. It was specifically mentioned in the Geneva convention and as internationall outlawed tactic. A conservative radio host--about as conservative as you can get--was recently waterboarded and he lasted about ten seconds. Afterward he vowed to call it torture on his program. So, again I can't agree with that.

[carrierexchange]

So comparing today's definition of torture with that of the 16th century is ok? Geneva convetions ring any bell? If you're watching Fox News, probably not.

[l1nuxun1l]

Umm... all those examples I gave you are things those governments do.... Today. Ring any bells?If your watching Msnbc, prolly not.

Pure and simple water boarding and enhanced interrogation techniques save lives. Or should we just be all nice to the terrorists and give them crackers and cheese and im sure ill let us know what their plans are.

Oh yeah btw, Im libertarian not republican so in my opinion both parties can go suck it.

[BenaffleckofSmeg]

l1nuxun1l, you have no idea what you are talking about. And you have terrible grammar.

[AZGingerproductions]

hi ,i was just wondering if you can check out my scooter tricks video

[7216sp]

Cheney takes husseins seeds and hands them to him . Hussein has no chance , he is in over his head. Hussein is a 2 year senator of which 1 year spent campaining and the other year voting present and hangs out with terrorist.

[republicanfacistsdie]

Cheney has spent his career lying to the American people. I would gladly take one Obama over ten-thousand Dick Cheney's. Cheney looked more like a confused, defensive old man looking for his lost dog! lol! nice try, though.

[JPPT1974]

Cheney and Obama are going at it. Now that is funny!

[Cheshirecatmeow1]

Everyone who doesn't think that waterboarding is torture should volunteer to be waterboarded. Every second they can handle it a donation should be made to military families.

[moregravyplease]

O'donnell makes a brilliant point: "if waterboarding isn't torture, then why didn't we do it to MORE people?" If 'enhanced interrogation' works, we would have done it to more prisoners, right?

I'd add this to his question: "if waterboarding is so effective, then where the heck is Usama Bin Laden?"

[tomanyasses]

are you an idiot cause you sound like one

[zame209]

rofl, water boarding isn't torture? right... lets see some of these ppl get water boarded and see if they change their mind..

[KaraLeroux]

Fawkes 2016!

[miglior57]

leave it up to fox news to keep on suckling on dick cheney's gop cock.

[samhamels]

Cheney 2012!

lol

[carrierexchange]

I can't believe there still is a debate about waterboarding being or not being torture!!! How can slowly drowning someone NOT be torture? Huh?

[TheNator9]

because cheney thinks it isnt and therefore fox news agrees and turns something that is clearly wrong into a debate about "keeping america safe" which means all the idiots panic and side with cheney/fox news.

[republicanfacistsdie]

Yes, exactly! Fear is a weapon all too often used in politics. People shouldn't be "scared" into believing something, but rather persuaded that the course is right when they are given all the facts. I can definitely agree with you there.

[TheNator9]

Problem is most people are too lazy/stupid to find out the truth. They blindly believe what is shown to them on the news (if you can call fox reporting "news") instead of bothering to find out the facts for themselves. I would bet a fair percentage of people wouldn't have a clue what water boarding is and still instantly agree that it was ok because cheney/fox news says so.

[tomanyasses]

do you think being in jail isnt torture, better ask lot of people in prison

[carrierexchange]

true, true

[WKaliberr]

I'll exchange 1 wall street banker for 1000 drug dealers

[potpie]

I like the new titles instead of just the date.

[pejovjos000]

Since water boarding works so well, why don't we use it on every prisoner in America?

[FDASARO]

Ventura 2016

[MooseOfReason]

Who for 2012 then?

[michaelzda]

Or to get people to admit that they've speeded, surely, less people breaking the speed limits keeps america safe.

[Chewy240284]

superior speech.....Cheney?......FOX NEWS

[etait612]

Seriously, I don't understand how they can believe their bullshit. Its not even funny, its frightening

[carrierexchange]

5 min. Cheney vs 1h Obama

[3star2nr]

Odonell vs cheney Ohhh snap he must have handed her her ass

[daniel8chang]

Congratulations, Class of 2009!

[k166a]

Guantanamo is one of our highest quality prisons? I think Jon Stewart described it correctly; it's like a do-it-yourself gazebo kit from walmart with a fence around it!

[nomercyrules10]

how the fuck can anyone say it's not torture? just because it leaves no physical marks doesn't mean it isn't fucking terrible. might as well say that rape with the use of condoms and lube is A-OK too

[tj5555555]

i was waterboarded 6 times in army flight school E&E course in 1969, it ain't torture it is good army training. It does no harm except make you THINK you are about to die. It's better than shooting someone in the leg or cutting one's head off like the other side DOES. What will it take for you to defend your own nation? Doc AC

[taoofmichael]

Yeah tj55555 -- those Motherfuckers shoot people in the leg, and cut people's heads off! America should never do anything that bad!

(100 detainees are dead at American hands. Hundreds of thousand dead civilians. 30,000 dead and severely wounded American troops, 3 million Iraqis displaced from their homes.)

We dont cut people's heads off, we bomb their whole family from a long distance away -- that makes us better!!

God bless America!!

[tj5555555]

if you have such a guilt trip about what the USA does why don't you personally accept the blame for it. I'm sure someone is just waiting to cut YOUR head off. America ain't perfect, it's just better than the rest. Doc AC

[taoofmichael]

I love America. But, you're right, we aint perfect.

I'm all about getting the truth out there, and cleaning up the messes we've made. Trying to do better for the future.

Denying history and truth does nothing to advance the American experiment.

[dogstar7]

"Guilt trip about USA"?

That would infer that torture is actually US policy for anyone to feel guilty about it.

Fuck you. America rejects Torture!

The same way AMERICA REJECTS CHENEY

The only thing any America should feel guilty about is letting this MANIAC have his way in the first place!

[taoofmichael]

We dont use swords and suicide vests to advance our political and economic dominance in the world. We use F-18s.

That makes THEM the terrorists, and makes US the........uuummm.....

BRINGERS OF DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM!!!

[jaekent]

Your ideology is primitive and weak minded. You obviously lack the intelligence to question why things are the way they are in the mid-east and choose believe everything you are told, like that they hate us because of our freedoms. In other words .. you eat the shit that they feed you and you do this with with a smile on your face and ask for more because is tastes so good to you.

[taoofmichael]

Do you know "why things are the way they are in the mid-east?"

Do you think it has anything to do with the Western World's mass consumption of oil?

America and the West bomb poor people for their resources -- its the way we maintain a lavish life-style for a portion of our population. We have done it for centuries. Its catching up with us.

If you dont know that, you have nothing to say on this subject.

[jaekent]

"for a portion of our population"

More like a tiny, minuscule, piece of the population. And believing that shit makes you come across as slow and not at all with the whole using your head to think thing.

[tj5555555]

Self loathing gets us no where. We are all in this togrther. Let us begin with those close to us and expand outward showing respect for other cultures but holding to those truths we hold dear. All men are created equal but not all cultures are equal. The superior culture is one that protects the individual's rights up to the point that one's rights conflict with someone else. Therefore is the basis for nationhood vs international one world control. Nations like persons are individual & separate.

[republicanfacistsdie]

I can agree with that. I can certainly agree that we are in this together. I can also agree that not all cultures are equal, also. I believe the rule of law is far superior to a theocracy or to facism or communism. A very good statement, in my opinion, tough we probably disagree on how to acheive the same end.

[tj5555555]

But your ideology is advanced? History is full of cases where inferior socities over took superior socities. I just don't want ours taken over just yet, Me and my kids are still using it to live.  Doc AC

[jaekent]

Absolutely .

[AnnaSmee]

It makes you think you're about to DIE?

That's fucking torture.

[tj5555555]

it doesn't draw blood. it's better then them not perfect, just better. Doc AC

[nomercyrules10]

Rape doesn't draw blood when done properly. The degrees of cruelty are subjective. Just the fact that we are using cruel methods makes us as bad as them. I can guarantee that if the people who don't oppose torture were born in such a place in the middle east, they would become suicide terrorists. If you can't be morally good in America, you sure as shit would be barbaric in the middle east.

[Nutrino2179]

O'Donnell raised a good question today - if the Cheney admin believed waterboarding was legal and effective, why didn't they summarily waterboard all detainees??

[TedinLasVegas]

"why didn't they summarily waterboard all detainees?? "<<<<< yours and O'Donnel's argument would also then Mean:

Death Penalty ensure no repeat offenders; why not execute them all?

[taoofmichael]

If waterboarding is legal, and if it works -- then every cop on the street should start using it on every person arrested -- to catch other criminals and prevent future murders.

If Cheney's defense is valid -- that prosecuting obscenely wealthy white men for their horrific crimes WOULD SET A BAD PRECEDENT, then I say, let that be the defense of every poor Black teenager in America, next time one gets caught spray-painting on a wall.

[burntonion05]

Liz Cheney is getting fatter, older, and grumpier every time I see her. She is turning into a dick at an alarming rate. Oh dear

[biggerflexible]

Sarah Palin

Michel Steele

Liz Cheney

fail fail fail, all the Republicans do is FAIL.

[tj5555555]

The Republic shall rise again.

[biggerflexible]

We can only hope.

[taoofmichael]

If they can convince the American people that THERE IS A LEGITIMATE DEBATE on torture, detention without due process, wire-tapping Americans, and all the other illegal abuses THAT AMERICANS HAVE BECOME ACCUSTOMED TO SEEING THEIR GOVERNMENT DO, AND DEFEND....

THEN THEY WIN.

There is no debate. Fuck Dick Cheney and his criminal oil cabal.

[ver506]

Well done tpmtv!

[WKaliberr]

today was a bad day

i didn't masturbate today

[crabbybastard1]

Don't think it's torture? Submit to waterboarding and after you can say what you want. Until then, shut up.

[taoofmichael]

If waterboarding isnt torture -- then why dont the police do it to every criminal in their custody -- to catch other criminals, and prevent murders?

If they did, they would be brought up on serious charges. Next question:

Why do obscenely wealthy white men GET AWAY WITH MASS MURDER, AND CONSPIRACY, AND WAR CRIMES? If a Black man did this (and this includes Barack Obama) do you think he would get away with it?

[WKaliberr]

I'll exchange 1 wall street banker for 1000 drug dealers

[tj5555555]

you would not do that if you were the banker.

[OlivierdeAthos]

You still wouldn't come out even on the amount of money that was stolen via criminal enterprise.

[tj5555555]

Obomba is stealing more than Bush ever could. Every administration is raiding the treasury for THE FEDERAL SYSTEM and all at the expense of the citizens. It's the FED that is the real enemy of the people. We should stop sniping at the puppets and aim at the string manipulators. Even though it's really not about money, it's about FREEDOM & POWER.

[tomanyasses]

yes he is

[rafflegomez]

"But it has a taint"

bwahahahahahaha

[Skurgefaust]

dosent everyone have a taint!

muhahaha

[CBRushing586]

I almost fell out of my chair I was laughing so hard...it has a taint

[voyeurdug]

Waterboarding is not torture.

Cigarettes are not addictive.

Water is not wet.

The sky is not blue.

Squirrels do not romp in Harvard Yard.

[tj5555555]

it's not perfect, just better then drawing blood, just ask anyone that has had thier head cut off. Oh sorry i forgot, you can't ask them BECAUSE THEY ARE DEAD !!!

[taoofmichael]

tj5555. I agree we are in the fight of our lives. But it is important to understand WHO THE ENEMY IS.

The ENEMY is religious fundamentalism (Muslim,Christian, Jew, Hindu, etc.)

Psychotic wealth accumulation by obscenely wealthy (usually white male owned,) multi-national corporations who PROFIT from the business of killing, weapons manufacturing and resource stealing.

The enemy is GREED and THINKING WE'RE SUPERIOR, AND MORE DESERVING OF HAPPINESS than all the other people in the world.

[tj5555555]

when is the last time you heard of a fundamental christian group cutting heads off, or jews for that matter. It is the muslims that are doing it this century as they have since the 7th century. Don't try to make a rule by pointing out long past exceptions. Happiness is what you make of it. Moslims are happy to cut your head off, i'm happy we try to stop them.

[taoofmichael]

Fundamentalist religion is all about CONTROLLING PEOPLE, AND GETTING THEM TO ACT IN THE WEALTHY RULING CLASS' INTERESTS. That is what fundamentalist religion HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT. Fundamentalists of all religions inevitably find ways to justify brutality.

Look up Manifest Destiny, and the American Slave Trade. All good Fundamentalist Christian endeavors.

Fundamentalist Muslims are doing the same thing. Neither group is better than the other. Gotta go. Its been real.

[americanmuslimgirl]

OMG its a Muslim and she doesnt want to cut off either of your heads!! And, like, she knows maybe hundreds or thousands who agree with her just anecdotally. I think maybe me and my friends should be worried around you.

[moregravyplease]

I feel the same way. I am not afraid of terrorists at all. What I fear are rednecks and the crackheads who live down the street. I am much more likely to be assaulted, robbed, etc, by an AMERICAN, than by some foreign threat.

[RoseSkye]

*cough* Christians have been doing shit like that since the Dark Ages.. and still do it today with the death penalty and torture *cough*

*Cough* The witchhunt burned innocent women at the stake and drowned people to death *cough*

*Cough* Crusades have killed non-christians *cough*

[dogstar7]

War is Peace;

Freedom is Slavery;

Ignorance is Strength.

Who knew Dick Cheney thought '1984' was a Users Manual?

[irvrod]

lets go to the hats

for some reason that was funny to me lol

[SubmarinerAndroid]

The cable news bullshit circus is torture.

[StunningBlow]

Fuck you liberal

[zndprophet]

wait, i thought the media was liberal.

[notscooter952]

Everyone knows that facts have a notoriously liberal bias.

[dogstar7]

StunningBlowHard LOL!