Damn!! Nakmeezy looking mean as hell in this vid!!! Nak would fo sho wreck rahmel scott and ben hill's students.I think all the shit talkin they do on Nak has made him train harder!!!!!!......not knockin metaphysics,he looked tight too but Im talkin about all the smack ben hill and scott been postin.
(continued) So many whites back then looked at it as a savage form. They often called them "nigger fights." This is what my neighbor explained to me how it was looked in the 1960s of the south.
Its so funny how ignorant youtubers like to say that 52 is just wing chun mixed with boxing when I compared them there is almost no resemblences to wing chun. I showed it to my teacher who is a wing chun specialist and he sees told me he saw almost none at all. 52 blocks is a mix of African, European, and modern mma as well as some oriental martial arts from Japan and China. The old style is more of a brutal form and there was almost no boundaries in street fighting at that time. (continued)
@0114770 Limb destruction is best explained in person but I can give you a textual explanation. When someone jabs or crosses, you can have your elbow pointed at it. When their knuckles hit your elbow, your elbow "destroys" their hand. Destruction is used in Filipino, Thai, Malaysian, and Indonesian martial arts.
Is there any way i can get involved in this, i want to know more im from the UK and i just want to see or learn more weather it be videos or a forum let me know please
this shit looks like slap boxing and i used to slap box all tha time when i was 7 so lemme say slap boxin doesnt really do shit but piss off the dude ur fightin real men use haymakers little boys in the neighborhood use slaps if you wanna look like youre doin shit slap box or do whatever this shit is but if you dont wanna piss off tha dude and get your face slammed in tha gravel for fightin like a girl scout learn how to actually punch for shit
@LaVivaGan real men use haymakers??lol until they come across a good defensive counter puncher. That haymaker all out swinging means nothing if you don't know why and where you are throwing it. Haymakers only win fights against people with no knowledge or technique in real combat.
Peace God Peace. My name is Rah...I Mean COCKmel Scott. I Am GOD. Yes I said it, I'm GOD. Nevermind I'm A Convicted Felon. That's right GOD almighty is a convicted felon. I talk about my fellow man everychance I get bc I"M GOD. I have never fought anyone in real life and there is no one to vouch for my background in fighting. Why bc I make everything up.
This is COCKmel Scott checking in...AND I BLOW NUTS
Hello this is an amazing boxing style. Im Mexican but I like boxing style like Zab Judah, Floyd Mayweather, Mike Tyson, Bernard Hopkins, and other greatest black fighters and now with 52 blocks I see where come from that particullary style of boxing. Im self studing pity shell, shoulder roll, PeekaBoo, but this is amazing i wanna learn. But I have a question I see great protection in face but what do you do with body punches? you know, hook to liver and something like that
i kinda agree... it looks like boxing with a lot of wasted movement... can farisdaniel upload any videos of them sparring amauter or semi pro boxers id like to see how they guys would do
@ZombieNGhost depends on what you want to do tothe body knuckles are best against flesh, where open hands work better for the head. but you can work strikes with either or.
Man that straight jab looks like it hurts, love the switching of stance though angles and defense. It's just so quick, good stuff though. He caught that one jab though I was loving that.
@FarisiDaniel Yes I see its sparring and it looks good. I wanna learn more about the 52 blocks. Im gonna check it out on youtube. Im alwayz looking for more Martial Knowledge. Thanks. Peace from Rotterdam!
@FarisiDaniel THEY DO THE SAME THINGS IN THE TEXAS PRISON SYSTEMS, THAT'S HOW I LEARNED THE 52 BLOCKS & CROSSBONES, BUT I'VE BEEN SEEING THIS FIGHTING STYLE SINCE I WAS A CHILD, I'M 24 GOING ON 25 NOW, & LET ME SAY THIS, THESE NON-BELIEVERS CAN DOUBT THIS STYLE ALL THEY WANT, BUT IT'S VERY EFFECTIVE! YOU GUYS SHOULD COME TO HOUSTON & TEACH THIS IN A GYM, BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY TO LEARN THIS IN TEXAS IS IF YOU GO TO PRISON, OR A DUDE WHO HAS CAME HOME FROM PRISON TEACHES A FAMILY MEMBER OR BEATS
yall two are killing me lol chill for awhile X-) my personal opinion, i'd like to learn this style of fighting. it make my muay thai game that much more better
this was actually better than people are giving credit for...
it's not traditional boxing, but especially in a street fight, i can see how it would be effective...most kats wouldn't know how to approach someone like that...
i've sparred with someone who did a style VERY similar to 52, an while i got the better of him, it definitely was a little strange tryin to adjust to how he deflected/counter struck...
keep doin what you doin, i'd just like to see 52 incorporate some trapping techniques...
how was this a "52 blocks beatdown"? Muay Thai guy landed cleaner and better shots and also took less damage. even at about 43 seconds he blocks 52's left right uppercut perfectly. The only thing 52 did was catch his jab a couple of times and had Muay Thai guy trained in other arts he should have used a bong block to stuff 52's arms and rushed him, or pull his trapped arm back as he pushed the opponent. Kung fu style breaks man.
@amritaherbs they are at a 52 seminar where they did what they learned that day. thus the MT guy is boxing in 52 form. and the karate guy is doing the same, so you see it's not that easy and they did a great job. so this is not a style against style but two men rep ing for 52 to the thier best
@amritaherbs Lets not forget that the gloves helped him trap his hand. I doubt this happens without the gloves on or in a situation where his opponent might rush him and take him down if he gets tangled up.
@tuopvm I USE ALL CAPS BECAUSE I SPECIALIZE IN CAPILTILIZING ON OTHERS MISTAKES.... IN THE RIGN ECT... AND YOUR MISTAKE WAS THINKING THAT THE GLOVES HELPED. AT THE POINT OF TIME WHERE HE CAUGHT THE GUYS HAND THEY WERENT EVEN SWEATING YET WHICH MEANS THEY WERE STILL PRETTY MUCH DRY. AND HIS TIMING WUZ PERFECT. ONCE THE GUYS HANDS WERE CAUGHT HE WAS LIKE WTF U CAUGHT THEM. LOL SO ITS ALL ABOUT TIMING. THATS WAT IT WAS MADE FOR. LOLOL IF YOUR TIMING IS DOWN AND YOUR NOT LOOSE THIS WONT WORK FOR YOU
@tuopvm DUDE REALLY CLOWN ONLY A CLOWN WOULD TAKE TIME OUT OF HIS/HER LIFE TO CALL ANOTHER PERSON A CLOWN. LMAO BUT U KNOW AT THEY SAY DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFFERENT FOLKS. ESPECIALLY SINCE I REALLY HAVE SEEN THIS USED AND HAVE USED IT MY SELF. GET REAL THIS IS JUST SPARRING THEY ARENT REALLY GOIN AT IT. ITS CONTROLLED. AKA PRACTICE. YOU CLOWN JUST DELETE YOUR YOUTUBE IF U GON TAKE TIME TO DIS SUMTHIN THAT U HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT
@youngvtec Yes you're a clown. Clowns type in all caps like it somehow makes their point more valid. Clowns say stupid shit like"I SPECIALIZE IN CAPILTILIZING ON OTHERS MISTAKES"." Tyson's punches were as tight and sharp as any small fighter. It's technique. I didn't dis anything I made a comment based on observation and common sense. Guys like u r lame. U post shit, then get mad when ppl say things u don't like. If they don't want comments they shouldn't post vids.
@youngvtec They should just keep practicing in their basement or the park or whatever. Don't post a clip then expect everyone to bow to your greatness especially when what you're showing isn't that impressive. It's easy to just call ppl haters instead of admitting what you're doing might be wack or have flaws. Go back to the park if u just want ass pats
@tuopvm bro have u sparred anybody that uses this style... i would take it that u havent. y dont u try fighting a person that really uses this style. or way of life. because thats what this really is. its not even a style cuz styles fade in and out, this way of life is real. so y dont u fight a practioner of the 52 that really knows wat he doin.... that is all... BARTENDAZ LG
what the h--l is this : S Just a bunch of clowns beating echother. I mean where is the footwork, the real guard, bobbing and whewing, working with echother. That's how you lern. That was just stupid
@croccofanto no its training for what they learned that day... i kno for sure that if u came and sparred with any of us u would get beat down... this is real and u need to realize that... there are bobbing and weaving... footwork is always there. they were doing the basics if you could tell... come on guys stop dissing this culture. learn what it is before you jack it up..... V5TEC2
@youngvtec i bet i would get beaten down, but that's just because thy are bigger then me. "this is real" what is more real here then lets say a regular boxing gym with pugilist sparing?
@croccofanto size makes no difference bro. really trust me.... because size makes for slow opponents therefore you should be faster and more agile than alot of bigger guys. unless of course they are trained fighters. there are in's and out's of everything. a bigger guy can hit harder than a smaller one, but a smaller one can throw more direct blows than a bigger one which makes for the same force that the big guys blow had on you.
@youngvtec If size doesn't matter why do they have weight classes? Why do fighters cut weight to fight in a lower division? I know they don't weight for fun. Size is not the end all be all but it most definitely matters. Size has nothing to with how "direct" a fighters punches are thats technique. You wouldn't put Paquiao in the ring with Tyson.
@tuopvm actually pacman and tyson might be pretty well off lmao real talk... and size has some detail in it. but not enough to prove that. the bigger a fighter is the wider his punches are...a smaller fighter actually has more narrow punches because of his body type
@5jama Yes it will last against muay thai. It all depends on ruleset,venue etc. Muay thai hands are weak therefore in the street(where no one kicks) 52 is at an advantage. In a ring with judges rounds points and full MT rules 52 is at a disadvantage. I know what i'm talking about since I trained with the best in 52 AND Muay Thai. These include Farisi Daniel 52 Kawaun 52 Lyte burley 52 AOD. Aziz Nabih Muay Thai,Phil Nurse,Saenchai sor Kingstar and Orono Muang Ubon.
@5jama Cont I trained and sparred in Holland with legends like Lucien Carbine at FFC, Ivan Hyppolite at Vos Gym. Also trained and sparred with Murthel Groenhart from Mikes Gym amsterdam home of Badr Hari and Melvin Manhoef. I used 52 inspired boxing and left with every gym I mentioned with the respect of their top fighters and trainers. Peace
See how their legs are open to kicks... Muay thai would kill this style of fighting... but I would say that it is superior to traditional boxing... Only cause you never know what they are gonna do dancing round like that..
@NAKMEEZY You have an advantage because you train muay thai... How many others have done the same? The only reason why you wouldnt use 52 blocks vs a muay thai fighter is because it would be totally ineffective... I saw your fights on your channel. You didnt use 52...!!! Why not???
@JohnnyVegaz007 Because I havent trained in 52 since the day of this vid 08'. Besides 52 is situational and when you have judges scoring based on your understanding and execution of MT techniques you dont need to mix it with anything.
@NAKMEEZY I got you... It looks cool. And I can see how it would be effective in the streets and prisons where it originated. I just dont see it as being effective against the trained fighter. Like I said before, you may be the exception because of your training and understanding of different fighting techniques.
@JohnnyVegaz007 first off bruh it didnot originate in Prison or the streets. like any art it goes where the people go. you say it wouldn't work against a trained fighter "how do you know that" you a trained fighter, our brothers in this clip were just getting started, and look at the work they put in, now someone that's been at it for a while another story keep watching with your eyes closed that's the best way to see everything peace
@FarisiDaniel It is where the people go??? It goes where the people from the streets and prisons go... Your brothers in the video were just getting started slapping each other and dancing around... Like I said... Muay Thai vs 52, Muay thai comes out on top hands down!!! Its funny how you call me blind and then say peace... Little bit of a contradiction, no???
@JohnnyVegaz007 Watching with your eyes closed isn't the same as being blind. with out site, you just choose to see what you want to see. Plus they are slap boxing not fighting, which you would have seen if you had opened your eyes. as for Muay Thai I'm sure it's a fighter's thing and not the art since you have not seen a 52 fight yet, and I bid all peace whether we agree or not peace
It is boxing like open hands, but if you pay close attention you can see that, they incorporate the 52 blocks in there defence. They do it quickly....then switch to a quick counter strike.
It is boxing like open hands, but if you pay close attention you can see that, they incorporate the 52 blocks in there defence. They do it quickly....then switch to a quick counter strike.
The guy with the yellow gloves is scary, i can feel his hooks, just by watching em. Hes very explosive, i see so alot of the martial principles that went behind this style.This clip just got me interested!
@newyorkfightnights in this clip these guys are slap boxing which is boxing with open hands. the difference here is that they are trying to add 52 in while the bang.there are more clips that have 52 in it from us check it out
are all of them from the wing chun family. Boxers can be trapped. The reference point is different. The fencing concept of jkd was the interception , or as Sigung Lee named "The Stop Hit". As a true JKD practitioner I follow thw original recipe " Absorb what is useful, discard what is useless, and add what is specifically your own." Also " The truth in combat is different for each individual, what works for one may not work for another". God Bless.
@research256 First let me say beautifully spoken, as I always welcome insight and comments from seasoned Martial Artist. I don’t disagree but always felt that the trapping was more Kali than wing chun. And since you teach Boxing you already know that styles ranges from Sugar Ray Robinson to Archie Moore, in distance. Bruce use Ali as a guide as Ali was both outside and inside. Fencing aspect is more inline with the footwork, on the cross.
@FarisiDaniel In Boxing we call trapping a pin, or tie up the clinch is a throw back to the days of Prize fighting when wrestling was a big part of the game.
More Free style, and in some cases my opinion a little catch. The reason I said it would be hard to trap a boxer is due to the false lead, and there is no pinning a strong left hook.
@FarisiDaniel The wrestling trap I’ll take your experience on that one, other than crossing them up never had much success in trapping them. Inosanto is one of mine favored MA, and thus I really appreciate you taking the time to comment and leave a little wisdom for the people.
52 is not slap boxing this the safest way to spar when your skills are not up to par
@FarisiDaniel Slaps mimic the variation of the blow, changing angles while setting up the counter, and follow up it. When not sparring on demoing the art it can get a bit testy. May I direct you the a clip called the worlds fastest heavy weight. That’s the movement our practitioners are striving for Peace and God Bless you too…
@FarisiDaniel Yes you are correct but the trapping motion changes considerably. The trapping becomes more defensive minded and includes zoning borrowed from Panantukan which is Filipino Boxing. The wing chun portion can be used, but it is done from a defensive position pulling the boxer off balance. The person needs the attributes to pull it off. He would have to have spent time boxing to understand how to trap a boxer..lol.
@research256 in boxing we call trapping catching, as you can't trap or hold without eating the other hand. plus unless cornered most people won't continue to come forward, thus pull away from you. I agree that you have tohave some boxing know how to deal with a boxer and just know the punch, but how the weight is displaced and the setup for the counter, a good boxer can bounce or sit dropping weight into the blow off setting a still opponent. so we practice with a moving target peace
@FarisiDaniel Thank you. It is obvious that you also have knowledge my friend. I am truly enjoying this conversation. Yes, the problem with JKD is that it has become commercialized, and split! There are factions thast stick with the training of what Bruce did. They don't realize that it was the way Bruce fought for his attributes. JKD is so much deeper. One can infuse anything from arts that are valuable. I would like to research your style more to see what could be added to my training.
@FarisiDaniel base art was boxing..Street Boxing as taught by the guys in the neighborhood. I remember slap boxing on the street..lol I never thought that those concepts would be put into a martial arts system like you do. Much respect for that! perhaps you could email me contact info for purchasing a video. All arts are useful, but it ultimately comes down to the individual.
Gee, I have heard so many reference the whole bit about discarding and absorbing all too often... funny as how most of the mediocre crap gets absorbed, and then really good stuff is discarded... Im not goin to bother with explaining this, one of the next jkd guys to fall will be the one right here in town, hes been teaching easily twice as long as you (30 or so years), JKD just really doesnt work, I should know, I have fought more instructors and broke them than you can imagine...
And if you need an idea how we fight and what we do (since I already know what you do, you posted it) just look at my profile and read the info there. Dont bother replying to me if you havent read and absorbed the info on what we do. -b boy
@bakakata First off slow down my friend. This is a convo of humility..martial artists exchanging their viewpoint. JKD is a concept. You are essentially utilizing the concepts of JKD, which is range fighting.JKD itself is not an art but concepts. I have seen instructors from all arts fall..It is not the art it is the individual.If karate man beats a restler does it mean karate is superior..No. it is about the individual. Your concepts and weay you fight essentially is JKD..MMA is JKD.
@bakakata What happens if the next JKD instructor you fight beats you does that mean that your method is useless..NO. You happened to lose to soemeone that has superior atribuites, or simply got the drop on you. In all honesty, this is not a pissing contest. I am enjoying a positive conversation with Farisi Daniel. I have had my share of conflicts and have trained my share of champions..I have no need to seek challenges to prove myself. So unless you would like to provide enlightenment in a
You fail to see what I am actually getting to here. Its not the individual alone that makes a style good, obviously the art is limited by the individual... however, the door swings both ways. The individual is also limited by the art (Ex. TKD). It is funny how various artist always claim to be better than another, yet when challenged they use the excuse "all arts are good/the same, its actually the individual" Basically you preach JKD, yet when confronted, provide that BS excuse?
@bakakata I have had my share of conflicts, and I have done my share of damage. My students have also won in the ring and outside the ring. Your point was understood when you started talking. You deal in the realm of self preservation, as do I. I also teach in the realm of self perfection. The principles are the same only the delivery system is different. Stop wasting your time with me my friend. Having the ability to defend yourself is a gift..Use it wisely! we are done talking.
Now then, to further my arguement :) It is not just I who has fought other artist/styles/systems in full contact low-rules fights, students of mine (low ranking vs those they fought to boot) have provided the same results. I have been training since I was 2 1/2 and have invested more time than you have been walking on this planet. I have fought individuals who are stronger, faster and more powerful. The methods I use are the same I have taught to military, simply, they work better
The "drop" is outside of "style/training/system" and outside of "superior attributes" so that is not easily quantified, train realistic. Lee/JKD really did not provide anything new, he only brought light to what had already been around and known for a very, very long time. Virtually all of his methods were just fragments of other systems. Now the concepts and way I fight is like JKD? World apart... easier to demo on you. Keep smokin your cat hair bud. You dont know so much.
@bakakata Your response is that of arrogance considering that you know nothing about me or what I teach. I have encountered the same results as you my friend. The core of jkd which only REAL practitioners train in is the same as your curriculum. I teach no rules!! for self defense..When Bruce was serious about a fight he always resorted to dirty fighting. There were two sides to JKD.Your style is no different than any other combat close quarter system. You have no rules,and so do I.
trap, but to remove a barrier. There was only one method infused in jkd at the time prior to Sigung Lee's death, and that was wing chun. Trapping is found in mauy thai, silat, etc. but from different reference points. The wing chun method was used to remove a barrier as one is hitting, so one can keep hitting. If you are looking to trap, it won't happen. Trapping a boxer is possible, and more so with a wrestler. To do so you must understand boxing and wrestling. The traps that work on wrestlers
yes I am, but I am also a boxing coach and muay thai coach. I research all styles. Boxing was my base art and i spent many hours researching to makwe my boxing functional. I disagree with the fencing and boxing as a range in jkd. That was pre Buce Lee's death before the other concepts of the arts were fused in by Sifu Inosanto. Trapping is effective.The problem is that most jkd practioners miss the boat when it comes to trapping. Trapping is a means to an end. The purpose and the goal is not to
I do not see it's effectiveness overall..I see a lot of traditional slap boxing from the hood, but fights mutate, and there are no rules in street fighting. Both practitioners are only flowing at one range. What about the other ranges of combat ( kicking, trapping, & grappling)? It also leaves the practitioners open to more injury fighting like this against limb destructions and low line kicking. Not to mention elbows and knees. Still not buying it.
@research256 No problem your comments sound like a JKD practitioner, not realizing that boxing n fencing are the foundation for range in combat. These guys are slap boxing, not fighting, if they were the range would have changed several times during the course of this encounter. other tha grapple on the ground it's all in there, and I love how we still hold on to traping even though no one has done it on a boxer, or wrestler . it works as it was designed for wing chun and jkd peace
Nice, reminds me of back in the day 1976, Flatbush ave, me and my boy Melacon, he had just came home from Rikers after a 26 month bid, speed and fluidity. Nice my brothers nice.
I like the gogo music in the background. Now real hard sparring/alive training like this is what is good. I see a lot of 52 videos on here from some guy that looks like he's dancing around more than fighting. Good job man. Just like in JKD the quality of training is dependent on the trainer, you sir are legit.
What matters is that your doing it... you guys keep impressing me.. i started out watching the ghetto workout video. keep it up. i like the whole thing about "physical fitness, self empowerment" thats sick..
The shorter guy needs to learn how to catch a jab. He was getting tagged in the chin over and over again. If anything he should adopt a Philly Shelling Defense. He would get owned by a guy actually punching using his current defense.
The taller guy defense was solid. He seem to be doing a lot of shelling. Actually look alot like the Crazy Monkey Defense developed by Rodney King SBG.
Incredible display of defensive boxing. Hand speed is remarkable. Systems like wing chun and 52 seem to focus more on training the central nervous system. More efficient, similar to Z-health.
Please keep up the remarkable work you are doing. You are inspiring people to think outside the box while spreading a culture and style of respect.
I don't care what people say. These guys are training hard. The end to all of these "my style is better than yours" arguments will be: Its the fighter not the style. Like I said, I am getting back into boxing, then will move on to other styles but I like this. Good work gentlemen!
From what I see 52 is a more complete system then modern boxing is. The footwork and defense along with its surprise angles of attack make this style legit in my eyes. We do the Elbow strike agianst punches and kicks too in Muay Thai but i like how flexible and easy you guys make it look.
you train to slap you going to slap when you fight guy. i will say this look better then that shit mr 52 is showing on the tube, but put one of these guys in a real boxing ring they not last! that real talk!
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In all my years of Boxing .. I never slapped my opponents or sparring partners .. it was always closed fist ... I can still do light sparring with a closed fist.
No offense man but these dudes are predictable. Boxers and others who are really good with their hand use better combinations. 3 and 4 punch combos that go either all to the head or all to the body are worthless against anyone who knows what they are doing, but they do serve the purpose of making your system look good against itself. With the way your guys hide behind that high guard, a good boxer would toss out a 1,2, followed by a hook to the liver that would be the beginning of the end.
BTW this open hand stuff is a good way to learn bad habits and mess up your hands. There is no reason to do this other than to try to make this look applicable to MMA. By doing this, your fighters lose their realistic sense of range. It is also impossible to throw hooks and uppercuts using the proper mechanics using open hands and whether you would like to believe it or not your fighters will fight like they train.
Not here to question anyone's abilities or manhood, but I'm also not making the "BEST HANDS IN MMA" claim that is tagged to alot of this guys 52 blocks stuff. And if you do know a "lil bit" about fighting(which I suspect means more than the average guy), then you almost have to agree that sparring should be done with gloved fists instead of slapping. And you also have to admit that the "Best hands in MMA" claim is gonna be offensive to some people who have put a lot of years into striking
Guy in black has good muay thai walk.
h4s4t4n 3 weeks ago
looks so simple...
TheMrRanz 1 month ago
this nigga look like KOBE BRYANT
TheMonkeyboy225 1 month ago
Damn!! Nakmeezy looking mean as hell in this vid!!! Nak would fo sho wreck rahmel scott and ben hill's students.I think all the shit talkin they do on Nak has made him train harder!!!!!!......not knockin metaphysics,he looked tight too but Im talkin about all the smack ben hill and scott been postin.
GableTrainedPower 2 months ago
(continued) So many whites back then looked at it as a savage form. They often called them "nigger fights." This is what my neighbor explained to me how it was looked in the 1960s of the south.
TheBanditghettoninja 4 months ago
Its so funny how ignorant youtubers like to say that 52 is just wing chun mixed with boxing when I compared them there is almost no resemblences to wing chun. I showed it to my teacher who is a wing chun specialist and he sees told me he saw almost none at all. 52 blocks is a mix of African, European, and modern mma as well as some oriental martial arts from Japan and China. The old style is more of a brutal form and there was almost no boundaries in street fighting at that time. (continued)
TheBanditghettoninja 4 months ago
Black shirt can get get get it!
SLIMGOODIES06 4 months ago
Where im from we call that shit slapboxing.
BoricuaAltaHueso787 4 months ago
that guy looks like Kobe Bryant
cjr122006 5 months ago
@FarisiDaniel
The protection looks great.. for the face.. but what if i was aim to do limb destruction?
OVERCAPITALIZE 6 months ago
@OVERCAPITALIZE there is more to the art than that, this is just slap boxing 1/3rd of the art.
peace
FarisiDaniel 6 months ago
@OVERCAPITALIZE limb destruction? what are you talking about?
0114770 3 months ago
@0114770 Repeatedly hitting a certain limb over and over. So as for this case, damage the leg and you'll end up having a broken fibula or femur.
OVERCAPITALIZE 3 months ago
@OVERCAPITALIZE idk bro that sounds a little unrealistic to me
0114770 3 months ago
@0114770
Haha its possible, just don't think about breaking a bone. Think about deadlegs. :P
OVERCAPITALIZE 3 months ago
@OVERCAPITALIZE well ill give that to you could jack someones limb by hitting it hard
0114770 3 months ago
@0114770 Limb destruction is best explained in person but I can give you a textual explanation. When someone jabs or crosses, you can have your elbow pointed at it. When their knuckles hit your elbow, your elbow "destroys" their hand. Destruction is used in Filipino, Thai, Malaysian, and Indonesian martial arts.
h4s4t4n 3 weeks ago
Is there any way i can get involved in this, i want to know more im from the UK and i just want to see or learn more weather it be videos or a forum let me know please
Ghandiknowsbest 6 months ago
this shit looks like slap boxing and i used to slap box all tha time when i was 7 so lemme say slap boxin doesnt really do shit but piss off the dude ur fightin real men use haymakers little boys in the neighborhood use slaps if you wanna look like youre doin shit slap box or do whatever this shit is but if you dont wanna piss off tha dude and get your face slammed in tha gravel for fightin like a girl scout learn how to actually punch for shit
LaVivaGan 6 months ago
@LaVivaGan real men use haymakers??lol until they come across a good defensive counter puncher. That haymaker all out swinging means nothing if you don't know why and where you are throwing it. Haymakers only win fights against people with no knowledge or technique in real combat.
getmajor 6 months ago
dude to left is ufc fighter R.evans brother
jgutta216 7 months ago
Peace God Peace. My name is Rah...I Mean COCKmel Scott. I Am GOD. Yes I said it, I'm GOD. Nevermind I'm A Convicted Felon. That's right GOD almighty is a convicted felon. I talk about my fellow man everychance I get bc I"M GOD. I have never fought anyone in real life and there is no one to vouch for my background in fighting. Why bc I make everything up.
This is COCKmel Scott checking in...AND I BLOW NUTS
ImMr52EatDick 7 months ago
Some exercises are very similiar to chinese style Wing Chun
danilo666 7 months ago
Hello this is an amazing boxing style. Im Mexican but I like boxing style like Zab Judah, Floyd Mayweather, Mike Tyson, Bernard Hopkins, and other greatest black fighters and now with 52 blocks I see where come from that particullary style of boxing. Im self studing pity shell, shoulder roll, PeekaBoo, but this is amazing i wanna learn. But I have a question I see great protection in face but what do you do with body punches? you know, hook to liver and something like that
danilo666 7 months ago
1:8 He Caught that man.....It was over before it started.
tittyballz2 8 months ago
so 52 is boxing with advance defense? I'd like this I always wanted to box
fredyzpt 8 months ago
waste of energy!
starzkee 10 months ago
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@starzkee
i kinda agree... it looks like boxing with a lot of wasted movement... can farisdaniel upload any videos of them sparring amauter or semi pro boxers id like to see how they guys would do
xxgunslingerxx 9 months ago
Slap boxing looks strong and fast so is punching really better?
ZombieNGhost 10 months ago
@ZombieNGhost depends on what you want to do tothe body knuckles are best against flesh, where open hands work better for the head. but you can work strikes with either or.
peace
FarisiDaniel 10 months ago
Man that straight jab looks like it hurts, love the switching of stance though angles and defense. It's just so quick, good stuff though. He caught that one jab though I was loving that.
Scarecrowman27 10 months ago
Wow I wan a learn that like how much it cost? Were is it at?
jmac23192 10 months ago
Good stuff, but its more like boxing isnt it??
minasz 11 months ago
@minasz yes slap boxing with is a good way to spar for cats just starting out. no one is very skilled in this clip
just heart
peace
FarisiDaniel 11 months ago
@FarisiDaniel Yes I see its sparring and it looks good. I wanna learn more about the 52 blocks. Im gonna check it out on youtube. Im alwayz looking for more Martial Knowledge. Thanks. Peace from Rotterdam!
minasz 11 months ago
@minasz great let me know if you need any info peace
FarisiDaniel 11 months ago
@FarisiDaniel wow you're pretty fast...where are you guys located and do u accept asians?
VanMedia 10 months ago
@VanMedia we are located in new york and yes we work with every one peace
FarisiDaniel 10 months ago
@FarisiDaniel THEY DO THE SAME THINGS IN THE TEXAS PRISON SYSTEMS, THAT'S HOW I LEARNED THE 52 BLOCKS & CROSSBONES, BUT I'VE BEEN SEEING THIS FIGHTING STYLE SINCE I WAS A CHILD, I'M 24 GOING ON 25 NOW, & LET ME SAY THIS, THESE NON-BELIEVERS CAN DOUBT THIS STYLE ALL THEY WANT, BUT IT'S VERY EFFECTIVE! YOU GUYS SHOULD COME TO HOUSTON & TEACH THIS IN A GYM, BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY TO LEARN THIS IN TEXAS IS IF YOU GO TO PRISON, OR A DUDE WHO HAS CAME HOME FROM PRISON TEACHES A FAMILY MEMBER OR BEATS
IAMGulfKoastGangsta 9 months ago
@IAMGulfKoastGangsta we are coming to Houston this summer lookout for us peace
FarisiDaniel 9 months ago
@FarisiDaniel ALREADY!
IAMGulfKoastGangsta 9 months ago
@FarisiDaniel YOUR ASS!
IAMGulfKoastGangsta 9 months ago
dude in the black is nice!!
bigscore 11 months ago
52 slaps
jaiharman1 11 months ago
@jaiharman1 wow it is slap boxing that there are doing so yes. but there were no sound effects added so the hit was real
FarisiDaniel 11 months ago
oh shit there was a caucasian in the video...
BareseMaledetto 1 year ago
yall two are killing me lol chill for awhile X-) my personal opinion, i'd like to learn this style of fighting. it make my muay thai game that much more better
mcdade89 1 year ago
soy español y me gusta es sistema de combate y defensa q aveis creado un arte q se creo en la esclavitud verdad y en las carceles
magnifico6666 1 year ago
this was actually better than people are giving credit for...
it's not traditional boxing, but especially in a street fight, i can see how it would be effective...most kats wouldn't know how to approach someone like that...
i've sparred with someone who did a style VERY similar to 52, an while i got the better of him, it definitely was a little strange tryin to adjust to how he deflected/counter struck...
keep doin what you doin, i'd just like to see 52 incorporate some trapping techniques...
HapkidoGuy1983 1 year ago
whoops, my bad, it was "throwdown" not beat down.
:(
Still, my points are valid.
52 what?
:)
amritaherbs 1 year ago
@amritaherbs not really they look good for 3 hours of training
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
how was this a "52 blocks beatdown"? Muay Thai guy landed cleaner and better shots and also took less damage. even at about 43 seconds he blocks 52's left right uppercut perfectly. The only thing 52 did was catch his jab a couple of times and had Muay Thai guy trained in other arts he should have used a bong block to stuff 52's arms and rushed him, or pull his trapped arm back as he pushed the opponent. Kung fu style breaks man.
amritaherbs 1 year ago
@amritaherbs they are at a 52 seminar where they did what they learned that day. thus the MT guy is boxing in 52 form. and the karate guy is doing the same, so you see it's not that easy and they did a great job. so this is not a style against style but two men rep ing for 52 to the thier best
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
@amritaherbs Lets not forget that the gloves helped him trap his hand. I doubt this happens without the gloves on or in a situation where his opponent might rush him and take him down if he gets tangled up.
tuopvm 1 year ago
@tuopvm IT CAN STILL HAPPEN TRUST ME. ITS ALL ABOUT TIMING. GLOVES ONLY SOFTEN THE BLOW TO THE TARGET AREA...
youngvtec 1 year ago
@youngvtec Not likely. What's with the all caps dude? Come on son.
tuopvm 1 year ago
@tuopvm I USE ALL CAPS BECAUSE I SPECIALIZE IN CAPILTILIZING ON OTHERS MISTAKES.... IN THE RIGN ECT... AND YOUR MISTAKE WAS THINKING THAT THE GLOVES HELPED. AT THE POINT OF TIME WHERE HE CAUGHT THE GUYS HAND THEY WERENT EVEN SWEATING YET WHICH MEANS THEY WERE STILL PRETTY MUCH DRY. AND HIS TIMING WUZ PERFECT. ONCE THE GUYS HANDS WERE CAUGHT HE WAS LIKE WTF U CAUGHT THEM. LOL SO ITS ALL ABOUT TIMING. THATS WAT IT WAS MADE FOR. LOLOL IF YOUR TIMING IS DOWN AND YOUR NOT LOOSE THIS WONT WORK FOR YOU
youngvtec 1 year ago
@youngvtec U use caps because you're a clown. Gloves most definitely played a part as well as the fact they weren't going full speed.
tuopvm 1 year ago
@tuopvm DUDE REALLY CLOWN ONLY A CLOWN WOULD TAKE TIME OUT OF HIS/HER LIFE TO CALL ANOTHER PERSON A CLOWN. LMAO BUT U KNOW AT THEY SAY DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFFERENT FOLKS. ESPECIALLY SINCE I REALLY HAVE SEEN THIS USED AND HAVE USED IT MY SELF. GET REAL THIS IS JUST SPARRING THEY ARENT REALLY GOIN AT IT. ITS CONTROLLED. AKA PRACTICE. YOU CLOWN JUST DELETE YOUR YOUTUBE IF U GON TAKE TIME TO DIS SUMTHIN THAT U HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT
youngvtec 1 year ago
@youngvtec Yes you're a clown. Clowns type in all caps like it somehow makes their point more valid. Clowns say stupid shit like"I SPECIALIZE IN CAPILTILIZING ON OTHERS MISTAKES"." Tyson's punches were as tight and sharp as any small fighter. It's technique. I didn't dis anything I made a comment based on observation and common sense. Guys like u r lame. U post shit, then get mad when ppl say things u don't like. If they don't want comments they shouldn't post vids.
tuopvm 1 year ago
@youngvtec They should just keep practicing in their basement or the park or whatever. Don't post a clip then expect everyone to bow to your greatness especially when what you're showing isn't that impressive. It's easy to just call ppl haters instead of admitting what you're doing might be wack or have flaws. Go back to the park if u just want ass pats
tuopvm 1 year ago
@tuopvm bro have u sparred anybody that uses this style... i would take it that u havent. y dont u try fighting a person that really uses this style. or way of life. because thats what this really is. its not even a style cuz styles fade in and out, this way of life is real. so y dont u fight a practioner of the 52 that really knows wat he doin.... that is all... BARTENDAZ LG
youngvtec 1 year ago
@youngvtec Also gloves weren't intended to soften the blow to the opponent they are intended to protect the fighters hand.
tuopvm 1 year ago
@amritaherbs ...but he didnt.
jeff61177 11 months ago
Are they bitch slapping eatch other?
connymat 1 year ago
what the h--l is this : S Just a bunch of clowns beating echother. I mean where is the footwork, the real guard, bobbing and whewing, working with echother. That's how you lern. That was just stupid
croccofanto 1 year ago
@croccofanto no its training for what they learned that day... i kno for sure that if u came and sparred with any of us u would get beat down... this is real and u need to realize that... there are bobbing and weaving... footwork is always there. they were doing the basics if you could tell... come on guys stop dissing this culture. learn what it is before you jack it up..... V5TEC2
youngvtec 1 year ago
@youngvtec i bet i would get beaten down, but that's just because thy are bigger then me. "this is real" what is more real here then lets say a regular boxing gym with pugilist sparing?
croccofanto 1 year ago
@croccofanto size makes no difference bro. really trust me.... because size makes for slow opponents therefore you should be faster and more agile than alot of bigger guys. unless of course they are trained fighters. there are in's and out's of everything. a bigger guy can hit harder than a smaller one, but a smaller one can throw more direct blows than a bigger one which makes for the same force that the big guys blow had on you.
youngvtec 1 year ago
@youngvtec If size doesn't matter why do they have weight classes? Why do fighters cut weight to fight in a lower division? I know they don't weight for fun. Size is not the end all be all but it most definitely matters. Size has nothing to with how "direct" a fighters punches are thats technique. You wouldn't put Paquiao in the ring with Tyson.
tuopvm 1 year ago
@tuopvm actually pacman and tyson might be pretty well off lmao real talk... and size has some detail in it. but not enough to prove that. the bigger a fighter is the wider his punches are...a smaller fighter actually has more narrow punches because of his body type
youngvtec 1 year ago
THIS IS BAPHOONERY TO ME. A WAIST OF TIME
SHABAZZTRIBE 1 year ago
@SHABAZZTRIBE I'm not surprised that you cant see it for what it is.....you cant even spell!
NAKMEEZY 1 year ago
@NAKMEEZY ITS JUST MY OPINION BRO . CALM DOWN BRO. STOP BEIN CUNTY! AND EMOTIONAL
SHABAZZTRIBE 1 year ago
@SHABAZZTRIBE NOT TO MUCH ON DA HOMIE... HE TELLIN THE TRUTH...
youngvtec 1 year ago
tight shit!
goods1ful 1 year ago
1:33
wesl8160 1 year ago
what crap this sport is? it wouldnt last 3 min against muay thai
but I respect the guys who invented it for trying because it looks cool
5jama 1 year ago
@5jama Yes it will last against muay thai. It all depends on ruleset,venue etc. Muay thai hands are weak therefore in the street(where no one kicks) 52 is at an advantage. In a ring with judges rounds points and full MT rules 52 is at a disadvantage. I know what i'm talking about since I trained with the best in 52 AND Muay Thai. These include Farisi Daniel 52 Kawaun 52 Lyte burley 52 AOD. Aziz Nabih Muay Thai,Phil Nurse,Saenchai sor Kingstar and Orono Muang Ubon.
NAKMEEZY 1 year ago
@5jama Cont I trained and sparred in Holland with legends like Lucien Carbine at FFC, Ivan Hyppolite at Vos Gym. Also trained and sparred with Murthel Groenhart from Mikes Gym amsterdam home of Badr Hari and Melvin Manhoef. I used 52 inspired boxing and left with every gym I mentioned with the respect of their top fighters and trainers. Peace
NAKMEEZY 1 year ago
See how their legs are open to kicks... Muay thai would kill this style of fighting... but I would say that it is superior to traditional boxing... Only cause you never know what they are gonna do dancing round like that..
JohnnyVegaz007 1 year ago
@JohnnyVegaz007 Not if you have an understanding of how to deal with muay thai. Like I do.
NAKMEEZY 1 year ago
@NAKMEEZY You have an advantage because you train muay thai... How many others have done the same? The only reason why you wouldnt use 52 blocks vs a muay thai fighter is because it would be totally ineffective... I saw your fights on your channel. You didnt use 52...!!! Why not???
JohnnyVegaz007 1 year ago
@JohnnyVegaz007 Because I havent trained in 52 since the day of this vid 08'. Besides 52 is situational and when you have judges scoring based on your understanding and execution of MT techniques you dont need to mix it with anything.
NAKMEEZY 1 year ago
@NAKMEEZY I got you... It looks cool. And I can see how it would be effective in the streets and prisons where it originated. I just dont see it as being effective against the trained fighter. Like I said before, you may be the exception because of your training and understanding of different fighting techniques.
JohnnyVegaz007 1 year ago
@JohnnyVegaz007 first off bruh it didnot originate in Prison or the streets. like any art it goes where the people go. you say it wouldn't work against a trained fighter "how do you know that" you a trained fighter, our brothers in this clip were just getting started, and look at the work they put in, now someone that's been at it for a while another story keep watching with your eyes closed that's the best way to see everything peace
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
@FarisiDaniel It is where the people go??? It goes where the people from the streets and prisons go... Your brothers in the video were just getting started slapping each other and dancing around... Like I said... Muay Thai vs 52, Muay thai comes out on top hands down!!! Its funny how you call me blind and then say peace... Little bit of a contradiction, no???
JohnnyVegaz007 1 year ago
@JohnnyVegaz007 Watching with your eyes closed isn't the same as being blind. with out site, you just choose to see what you want to see. Plus they are slap boxing not fighting, which you would have seen if you had opened your eyes. as for Muay Thai I'm sure it's a fighter's thing and not the art since you have not seen a 52 fight yet, and I bid all peace whether we agree or not peace
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
It is boxing like open hands, but if you pay close attention you can see that, they incorporate the 52 blocks in there defence. They do it quickly....then switch to a quick counter strike.
bololove1580 1 year ago
It is boxing like open hands, but if you pay close attention you can see that, they incorporate the 52 blocks in there defence. They do it quickly....then switch to a quick counter strike.
bololove1580 1 year ago
very good work--can see this complimenting traditional martial arts. really like the realistic speed.
cantwait2look 1 year ago
nice catch at 106 that was bad ass
rex2074 1 year ago
He had to take some nice hits
Guard655 1 year ago
The guy with the yellow gloves is scary, i can feel his hooks, just by watching em. Hes very explosive, i see so alot of the martial principles that went behind this style.This clip just got me interested!
bezerka 1 year ago
Looks like boxing with open hands. That's all
newyorkfightnights 1 year ago
@newyorkfightnights in this clip these guys are slap boxing which is boxing with open hands. the difference here is that they are trying to add 52 in while the bang.there are more clips that have 52 in it from us check it out
peace
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
@FarisiDaniel i would like say ok , and really please call me . i'm ding
nattyemma 1 year ago
@newyorkfightnights i agree looks like boxing with open hands.
kungfuspic 1 year ago
@kungfuspic yes, slp boxing but this was more boxing... 52 has more ways to strike open handed
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
who is the guy with the yellow gloves his fast
KrazyRMjumps 1 year ago
@KrazyRMjumps that's Nak
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
@FarisiDaniel it looks hard.. but it looks pretty bad ass
KrazyRMjumps 1 year ago
@KrazyRMjumps yeah we keep you inshape peace
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
are all of them from the wing chun family. Boxers can be trapped. The reference point is different. The fencing concept of jkd was the interception , or as Sigung Lee named "The Stop Hit". As a true JKD practitioner I follow thw original recipe " Absorb what is useful, discard what is useless, and add what is specifically your own." Also " The truth in combat is different for each individual, what works for one may not work for another". God Bless.
research256 1 year ago
@research256 First let me say beautifully spoken, as I always welcome insight and comments from seasoned Martial Artist. I don’t disagree but always felt that the trapping was more Kali than wing chun. And since you teach Boxing you already know that styles ranges from Sugar Ray Robinson to Archie Moore, in distance. Bruce use Ali as a guide as Ali was both outside and inside. Fencing aspect is more inline with the footwork, on the cross.
Which the old timer new all to well.
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
@FarisiDaniel In Boxing we call trapping a pin, or tie up the clinch is a throw back to the days of Prize fighting when wrestling was a big part of the game.
More Free style, and in some cases my opinion a little catch. The reason I said it would be hard to trap a boxer is due to the false lead, and there is no pinning a strong left hook.
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
@FarisiDaniel The wrestling trap I’ll take your experience on that one, other than crossing them up never had much success in trapping them. Inosanto is one of mine favored MA, and thus I really appreciate you taking the time to comment and leave a little wisdom for the people.
52 is not slap boxing this the safest way to spar when your skills are not up to par
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
@FarisiDaniel Slaps mimic the variation of the blow, changing angles while setting up the counter, and follow up it. When not sparring on demoing the art it can get a bit testy. May I direct you the a clip called the worlds fastest heavy weight. That’s the movement our practitioners are striving for Peace and God Bless you too…
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
@FarisiDaniel Yes you are correct but the trapping motion changes considerably. The trapping becomes more defensive minded and includes zoning borrowed from Panantukan which is Filipino Boxing. The wing chun portion can be used, but it is done from a defensive position pulling the boxer off balance. The person needs the attributes to pull it off. He would have to have spent time boxing to understand how to trap a boxer..lol.
research256 1 year ago
@research256 in boxing we call trapping catching, as you can't trap or hold without eating the other hand. plus unless cornered most people won't continue to come forward, thus pull away from you. I agree that you have tohave some boxing know how to deal with a boxer and just know the punch, but how the weight is displaced and the setup for the counter, a good boxer can bounce or sit dropping weight into the blow off setting a still opponent. so we practice with a moving target peace
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
@FarisiDaniel Thank you. It is obvious that you also have knowledge my friend. I am truly enjoying this conversation. Yes, the problem with JKD is that it has become commercialized, and split! There are factions thast stick with the training of what Bruce did. They don't realize that it was the way Bruce fought for his attributes. JKD is so much deeper. One can infuse anything from arts that are valuable. I would like to research your style more to see what could be added to my training.
research256 1 year ago
@FarisiDaniel base art was boxing..Street Boxing as taught by the guys in the neighborhood. I remember slap boxing on the street..lol I never thought that those concepts would be put into a martial arts system like you do. Much respect for that! perhaps you could email me contact info for purchasing a video. All arts are useful, but it ultimately comes down to the individual.
research256 1 year ago
@research256
Gee, I have heard so many reference the whole bit about discarding and absorbing all too often... funny as how most of the mediocre crap gets absorbed, and then really good stuff is discarded... Im not goin to bother with explaining this, one of the next jkd guys to fall will be the one right here in town, hes been teaching easily twice as long as you (30 or so years), JKD just really doesnt work, I should know, I have fought more instructors and broke them than you can imagine...
bakakata 1 year ago
@research256
And if you need an idea how we fight and what we do (since I already know what you do, you posted it) just look at my profile and read the info there. Dont bother replying to me if you havent read and absorbed the info on what we do. -b boy
bakakata 1 year ago
@bakakata First off slow down my friend. This is a convo of humility..martial artists exchanging their viewpoint. JKD is a concept. You are essentially utilizing the concepts of JKD, which is range fighting.JKD itself is not an art but concepts. I have seen instructors from all arts fall..It is not the art it is the individual.If karate man beats a restler does it mean karate is superior..No. it is about the individual. Your concepts and weay you fight essentially is JKD..MMA is JKD.
research256 1 year ago
@bakakata What happens if the next JKD instructor you fight beats you does that mean that your method is useless..NO. You happened to lose to soemeone that has superior atribuites, or simply got the drop on you. In all honesty, this is not a pissing contest. I am enjoying a positive conversation with Farisi Daniel. I have had my share of conflicts and have trained my share of champions..I have no need to seek challenges to prove myself. So unless you would like to provide enlightenment in a
research256 1 year ago
@research256
You fail to see what I am actually getting to here. Its not the individual alone that makes a style good, obviously the art is limited by the individual... however, the door swings both ways. The individual is also limited by the art (Ex. TKD). It is funny how various artist always claim to be better than another, yet when challenged they use the excuse "all arts are good/the same, its actually the individual" Basically you preach JKD, yet when confronted, provide that BS excuse?
bakakata 1 year ago
@bakakata I have had my share of conflicts, and I have done my share of damage. My students have also won in the ring and outside the ring. Your point was understood when you started talking. You deal in the realm of self preservation, as do I. I also teach in the realm of self perfection. The principles are the same only the delivery system is different. Stop wasting your time with me my friend. Having the ability to defend yourself is a gift..Use it wisely! we are done talking.
research256 1 year ago
@research256
Now then, to further my arguement :) It is not just I who has fought other artist/styles/systems in full contact low-rules fights, students of mine (low ranking vs those they fought to boot) have provided the same results. I have been training since I was 2 1/2 and have invested more time than you have been walking on this planet. I have fought individuals who are stronger, faster and more powerful. The methods I use are the same I have taught to military, simply, they work better
bakakata 1 year ago
@research256
The "drop" is outside of "style/training/system" and outside of "superior attributes" so that is not easily quantified, train realistic. Lee/JKD really did not provide anything new, he only brought light to what had already been around and known for a very, very long time. Virtually all of his methods were just fragments of other systems. Now the concepts and way I fight is like JKD? World apart... easier to demo on you. Keep smokin your cat hair bud. You dont know so much.
bakakata 1 year ago
@bakakata Your response is that of arrogance considering that you know nothing about me or what I teach. I have encountered the same results as you my friend. The core of jkd which only REAL practitioners train in is the same as your curriculum. I teach no rules!! for self defense..When Bruce was serious about a fight he always resorted to dirty fighting. There were two sides to JKD.Your style is no different than any other combat close quarter system. You have no rules,and so do I.
research256 1 year ago
@bakakata in a positive way. Please stay out of the conversation.
research256 1 year ago
trap, but to remove a barrier. There was only one method infused in jkd at the time prior to Sigung Lee's death, and that was wing chun. Trapping is found in mauy thai, silat, etc. but from different reference points. The wing chun method was used to remove a barrier as one is hitting, so one can keep hitting. If you are looking to trap, it won't happen. Trapping a boxer is possible, and more so with a wrestler. To do so you must understand boxing and wrestling. The traps that work on wrestlers
research256 1 year ago
yes I am, but I am also a boxing coach and muay thai coach. I research all styles. Boxing was my base art and i spent many hours researching to makwe my boxing functional. I disagree with the fencing and boxing as a range in jkd. That was pre Buce Lee's death before the other concepts of the arts were fused in by Sifu Inosanto. Trapping is effective.The problem is that most jkd practioners miss the boat when it comes to trapping. Trapping is a means to an end. The purpose and the goal is not to
research256 1 year ago
I do not see it's effectiveness overall..I see a lot of traditional slap boxing from the hood, but fights mutate, and there are no rules in street fighting. Both practitioners are only flowing at one range. What about the other ranges of combat ( kicking, trapping, & grappling)? It also leaves the practitioners open to more injury fighting like this against limb destructions and low line kicking. Not to mention elbows and knees. Still not buying it.
research256 1 year ago
@research256 No problem your comments sound like a JKD practitioner, not realizing that boxing n fencing are the foundation for range in combat. These guys are slap boxing, not fighting, if they were the range would have changed several times during the course of this encounter. other tha grapple on the ground it's all in there, and I love how we still hold on to traping even though no one has done it on a boxer, or wrestler . it works as it was designed for wing chun and jkd peace
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
if this works so well then maybe they should try it out against an mma guy. it sure doesn't look like it would work.
dougerber 1 year ago
@dougerber you're right
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
These sparring partners are missmatched, peace
bangbangdivine 1 year ago
Nice, reminds me of back in the day 1976, Flatbush ave, me and my boy Melacon, he had just came home from Rikers after a 26 month bid, speed and fluidity. Nice my brothers nice.
relentlesslion4848 1 year ago
@relentlesslion4848 that's peace my brother thanks
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
Damn, I like the fighting spirit on display here!
charliekkendo 1 year ago
killer match. great respect....honor in there.
mcul2112 1 year ago
I like the gogo music in the background. Now real hard sparring/alive training like this is what is good. I see a lot of 52 videos on here from some guy that looks like he's dancing around more than fighting. Good job man. Just like in JKD the quality of training is dependent on the trainer, you sir are legit.
Whoamazing83 1 year ago
what was the green shirt guy trained in? slapping? :S
rutturu 1 year ago
What matters is that your doing it... you guys keep impressing me.. i started out watching the ghetto workout video. keep it up. i like the whole thing about "physical fitness, self empowerment" thats sick..
paulrpmg 1 year ago
All I'm saying is this, I want to see the 52 blocks guy against a TRUE and TESTED Muay Thai Fighter.
FishinAddiction 1 year ago 8
@FishinAddiction ok.
NAKMEEZY 1 year ago
The shorter guy needs to learn how to catch a jab. He was getting tagged in the chin over and over again. If anything he should adopt a Philly Shelling Defense. He would get owned by a guy actually punching using his current defense.
The taller guy defense was solid. He seem to be doing a lot of shelling. Actually look alot like the Crazy Monkey Defense developed by Rodney King SBG.
atran35 1 year ago
@atran35 far from Crazy Monkey, but thanks for the comment
Peace
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
Incredible display of defensive boxing. Hand speed is remarkable. Systems like wing chun and 52 seem to focus more on training the central nervous system. More efficient, similar to Z-health.
Please keep up the remarkable work you are doing. You are inspiring people to think outside the box while spreading a culture and style of respect.
astpierre9 1 year ago
@astpierre9 thank you and we will
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
I don't care what people say. These guys are training hard. The end to all of these "my style is better than yours" arguments will be: Its the fighter not the style. Like I said, I am getting back into boxing, then will move on to other styles but I like this. Good work gentlemen!
Amir842003 1 year ago
@Amir842003 thanks, each day we strive to be better than the next onward and upward
peace
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
song?
allshallbelosttoyou 1 year ago
@allshallbelosttoyou Miracles by mumbo sauce
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
From what I see 52 is a more complete system then modern boxing is. The footwork and defense along with its surprise angles of attack make this style legit in my eyes. We do the Elbow strike agianst punches and kicks too in Muay Thai but i like how flexible and easy you guys make it look.
anhkhoinguyen 1 year ago
Thank you, and you are correct
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
@anhkhoinguyen guy you nuts they slap boxing. lol
you train to slap you going to slap when you fight guy. i will say this look better then that shit mr 52 is showing on the tube, but put one of these guys in a real boxing ring they not last! that real talk!
mmaboxerful 1 year ago
fast hands haha
ginman1595 1 year ago
2 dudes with super nice hands!!! great fight
boeryan 1 year ago
I want to see how this matches up against boxing. Using two guys of = skill in both of there respective styles
sz42781 1 year ago
52 Blocks vs Stato Fist, a documentary on the history 52 Blocks in America, email danielmarks52@yahoo(dot)com to get a free viewer password to watch it online.
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
CATFIGHT
boxingfanofthegame 1 year ago
yup listen to the smack pow!
PEACE
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
Yeah .. if I slap in across the face it will make a ''pow'' sound effect... LOL ..Keep on posting the cat fights.. good to laugh at
boxingfanofthegame 1 year ago
@boxingfanofthegame I'll make you famous on youtube for being a victim of the slaps.
NAKMEEZY 1 year ago
I'll slap you in the eardrum punk .. lol .. NAH .. slaps are for bitches .. I close the fist & use real force...
boxingfanofthegame 1 year ago
@boxingfanofthegame sOUNDS GOOD. lET ME KNOW WHERE AND WHEN. I WILL MAKE YOU RESPECT THE SLAPS.
NAKMEEZY 1 year ago
You will get hurt
boxingfanofthegame 1 year ago
retard this is just a light sparring and why need to hurt other people you train with ?
hopestealer 1 year ago
Cause .. your supposed to close your fist when you punch .... dumbass
boxingfanofthegame 1 year ago
Cause it's a light sparring dumbshit ain't supposed to have closed fist.
You can argue with me if you want i have been coaching for 3 year i know what i talking about.
hopestealer 1 year ago
In all my years of Boxing .. I never slapped my opponents or sparring partners .. it was always closed fist ... I can still do light sparring with a closed fist.
boxingfanofthegame 1 year ago
i do my light spar closed fist as well but for a lot of the beginner i had it was alway fist open
and i was mma trainer not boxing but did 2 year before i switch to mma
hopestealer 1 year ago
This is not boxing you dumb bastard! If you hate us so much,why do you keep watching? thanks for all the hits!
NAKMEEZY 1 year ago
ok.. girly man
boxingfanofthegame 1 year ago
enough talk gym, gloves ding ding
peace
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
Slip to overhand puts either of these clowns to sleep.
Blaphtome 1 year ago
ok then we like to see that move like no one has ever done that before, look at the sweeping hook again. had it be fist we would have had a problem
peace
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
No offense man but these dudes are predictable. Boxers and others who are really good with their hand use better combinations. 3 and 4 punch combos that go either all to the head or all to the body are worthless against anyone who knows what they are doing, but they do serve the purpose of making your system look good against itself. With the way your guys hide behind that high guard, a good boxer would toss out a 1,2, followed by a hook to the liver that would be the beginning of the end.
Blaphtome 1 year ago
BTW this open hand stuff is a good way to learn bad habits and mess up your hands. There is no reason to do this other than to try to make this look applicable to MMA. By doing this, your fighters lose their realistic sense of range. It is also impossible to throw hooks and uppercuts using the proper mechanics using open hands and whether you would like to believe it or not your fighters will fight like they train.
Blaphtome 1 year ago
Thanks for the useless advise blah blah tome. I know how to fight a lil bit so if you wanna show me something in person i'd be willing to learn.
NAKMEEZY 1 year ago
US TOO
FarisiDaniel 1 year ago
Not here to question anyone's abilities or manhood, but I'm also not making the "BEST HANDS IN MMA" claim that is tagged to alot of this guys 52 blocks stuff. And if you do know a "lil bit" about fighting(which I suspect means more than the average guy), then you almost have to agree that sparring should be done with gloved fists instead of slapping. And you also have to admit that the "Best hands in MMA" claim is gonna be offensive to some people who have put a lot of years into striking
Blaphtome 1 year ago