Lieber Fliegerfreund bei 2.08 hättest es knapp werden können. Ein Fallwind oder ne Bö von rechts.
Es gibt an diesem Platz keinen Grund soooooooo tief anzufliegen!
Der bekannte Spruch:
Es gibt viele junge Flieger und viele alte Flieger; es gibt gute und schlechte Flieger, aber es gibt WENIG alte schlechte Flieger;schlechte Flieger werden nämlich nicht alt. Im Sinne der Demut - die uns Fliegern grundsätzlich gut tut - nach Antoine de Saint de Exupery
Hold on.. lemme get this straight, You are a pilot and a cyclist? dude you are my role model! I am 29 and getting my commercial so I can make aviation my career but cycling will always be my other main hobby. Greetings from southern california.
@reddishknight007 : I feel same. Would a steeper descend with same air speed decrease the ground speed and see and feel better? Can the uncoordinated maneuver help that too?
@SuperApple1995 ja, war mal auf einem modellflugtag dort, aber leider noch nie mit der cessna, ich fliege eig. immer nach süden, ... in die berge ... :-)
This landing looks like a normal little controlled aerodrome- nothing difficult about it at all. I have landed in areas that make this one look easy. For one, his approach was too shallow as he came too close the ground too fast. 2nd, doing a "short field" approach with full flap would make this an EASY landing. There's no reason to approach an aerodrome in this manner. If he had an engine failure on final, he'd be hitting the trees on weeds just before for the seal of the runway.
nice video but a fairly low approach, even though the runway is short try not to come in so low it's a bad habit to get into. Maybe a strong, sudden gust and you are in the trees.
@BPeden99 What ? Are you a pilot ? I am not a flight instructor. It is just common sense. I take the life of myself and my passengers seriously, no way I would come in so low like that. I know it is a short runway there, but you can still slip it onto the numbers safely and have plenty of runway. It is 1300 feet, lots of room to stop a small plane.
Lol there's no way you had to be that low. You were 10 feet above the trees at the end! You'd be surprised how quickly you can stop a 172 with the combination of aerodynamic braking and hydraulic braking.
Dude, you should really come in a bit higher, there is no need to be that low. If your engine goes on you on short final, you have no options. Happy flying!
i want to learn to fly soooo bad, my wife doesnt want me to cause shes in fear of losing me to a failure of the aircraft and that and i respect and love my wife very much so i havent taken classes but my passion is flight and i do want to fly soo bad it hurts
I live in Holland and Germany is not too far away for me... I would like to let you know I really like your videos! Can you upload some more if you have more aviation videos? I really love this airstrip.
I didn't see anything that was too crazy. But then I learned to fly in Alaska where I'm from. You should see some of landing Iv'e made on sandbars in a river.... It's really not that hard after you learn how. and of course knowing the limits of your aircraft & skill.
Incapable of exercising risk awareness and felt the need to buzz the trees? There are multiple, safer, ways to drop altitude and still make this approach. Would not fly with this character.
No pun intended, the Rawalakot Airport runway, Northern Pakistan, makes this one look like a walk in a super mall. There it is 2900 feet runway surrounded by hills and trees to all sides of the runway, at 5500 elevation. Landing needs some real skill, take off, extreme care. Winds keep shifting most of that compass rose from calm to 12 knots.
golf clap to that did you hit a tree ot something on final and i agree judging the height from the trees is hard i can land a 747 on a sim and have had a lesson but very nice landing. i woulda shit my pants probably when i was going to fast at the end. what plane was this.
Love it how everyone is saying that it wasn't difficult... I bet there all the "flight simulator" 15 year old kids, who think they know everything just because they can land a 747 on a sim... Gimps
Its quite hard to judge the height of the trees, Anyway... you did a good job!
@OMFGitzDannyP That is an easy approach.. I am a PPL and have flown in Alaska and now fly in New Zealand. This pilot is reckless and/or unskilled and/or not properly trained for landing so low so fast.. Why would anyone ever record and place this embarrassing video on YouTube?
Nothing difficult about at this airfield, you just came in too low.. People think the runway is very short, it just seems short as the runway isn't very wide. You can come in much higher than that, Cessna's and all other single engine props are designed to come in at a high angle incase they have an engine failure.
I didn't see a need for coming in so low. I'd come in higher with full flaps and 60 kts, for that airplane. it didn't seem windy or the field very short but I'm use to that. if your from a big field this would be challenging.
@grissomairport I had 60kts plus full flaps too, when you come in much higher, you are not able to reduce speed safely and you can run out of runway quite easily. the field is only (too)short, when you miss the threshold ...
@wildflyer1de, full 45 deg of flaps in a 172 will more than allow you to increase your decent angle without increased airspeed. Do a search for short field landings in 172 on Youtube.
@wildflyer1de but..... you were dragging it in and had to add power to keep from touching early. It's hard to tell, but I do believe you touched down before the runway starts. Isn't that a displaced threshold? It's 'not legal' to land there.
@wildflyer1de Do you play Flight Simulator X? :D I don't like flying small airplanes in that game cuz its unstable and too slow. Big commercial jets are much more easier to land.
@wildflyer1de Still it is what, 1300 feet at least, you can come in high and slip it in. No need to drag it in over the trees like that ! I just don't want to see you get killed if you had an engine failure on final.
@grissomairport Nonsense - he didn't come in too low at all. His aiming point was necessarily well before the runway threshold and the distance between the point at which he closed the throttle and the threshold was simply devoured by the round-out and hold off. Admittedly, doing it this way does subject the aircraft to ground effect for longer than other short landing techniques do which isn't helpful but, overall, I thought that it was a very good landing.
@bravobravo74 Having a aiming point before the threshold is a bad habit...one that could end in a accident if you had an engine stall on final. Happened to me once, engine died on final....I picked my spot 1/3 down the runway but made it to the numbers. Maybe saved the aircraft. Bad habits cost lives and damage airplanes
@jonanthonywpg I don't agree I'm afraid. It's not a bad habit to endeavour to land shortly after the threshold when operating from very short strips. You could take the precaution of landing long every time just in case the engine fails on final but overrunning the prepared surface is a sure-fire way to damage a perfectly serviceable aeroplane.
Is ja cool. Bist aber extrem niedrig angeflogen. Ich war an eurem Flugplatz noch nie (wie ist denn der Code?), aber als Fremdling wäre ich DEFINITIV höher angeflogen. Im Sommer stelle ich mir den Anflug richtig spannend vor über dem Wald.
Ahhh, I love the state of Bavaria - especially Garmisch-Partenkirchen! May I add my, as we say in the U.S., "two cents"? With all due respect, I could not bring myself to fly that approach, a lot of the time; is just a bit to "shallow" for me, plus I would be scared of those trees! :-) How about coming in high, and use an "aggrivated slip"; that is, unless the POH advises against doing that. However, great video!! Thanks, N-6395T
@mmichaeldonavon if you like bavaria, watch the video "Zugspitze 2010 - very spectacular flight !! 1080p" in my channel, there I fly just above it and all the great mountains around garmisch/partenkirchen
@TheRedge12 hab ich noch nicht gesehn, aber könnt ich mir schon vorstellen. die meisten, die den platz noch nicht kennen kommen aber zu hoch/schnell rein und kriegen dann evtl probleme mit der kurzen bahn, aber in der regel ist das alles kein problem hier, informieren sollte man sich aber schon etwas, bevor man hier landet ...
I see what you did there. The point of your approach is to start an early flare with little energy and touch on the first available bit of runway. You could, however, choose to fly a standard 3° glidepath with your aiming point on the grass in front of the runway. That way you would clear all obstacles with a better margin and still land on the first bit of runway available near stall speed.
@sphinxbot exactly the same idea I had too, when I made my first landing here, this works great, when you have strong head wind. without wind like in the video and lightweight, you touchdown in the middle and you have only 200m of runway left to brake. I aim at the last trees, over them I want to have minimum altitude AND speed incl. usage of the engine if necessary (as in the video). come here, watch the local aircrafts approach for some time, then you will understand :-)
@sphinxbot shut up pussy badass pilots like myself and this fucker like to run risks cause were fucking badass, fuck a "3" degree glideslope aka the pussy approach! i have balls of steel so i cut corners and run risk and fly drunk ! unlike you rule abiding faggots
This went from a 3 degree glide path to a 1 degree glide path at about 2:10. Would you have still done that if there were people or cars on the road infront of the runway? I'm sorry but I don't believe you when you say "if you don't approach it like this then you end up somewhere in the middle". Just because it's got a forrest infront of it doesn't make the runway any different.
@shirty2 runway is short, narrow, not flat, has a forest on one end and a downward slope on the other (difficult to break, when you hit the runway too late). I had already full flaps, aircraft very light (1person, little fuel), big ground effect, no headwind, 90deg sidewind. if you come in too steep, you are too fast on days like this. many pilots here choose to fly low over the trees ... btw. the tower controls a traffic light for the road, so no cars are crossing when aircrafts approach.
@wildflyer1de I still maintain that the last 5 to 10 seconds of your approach was too shallow. All runways are designed to accomadate a standard visual approach without the need of trimming the grass before touchdown. Just cut the power 2-3 seconds earlier in short field approach config (which you did at 60kias) and you'd be able to touch down at the threshold with no problems. A lighter Cessna will give you a shorter breaking distance since the aircraft has less inertia.
@shirty2 did I trimm the grass ? I hit the runway exactly where I wanted to hit it. "just before the threshold". I wish, every landing would succeed like this one. there will always be different opinions about approching or landing, and it is always good, to discuss that to improve your skills.
Unneccessarily low over the trees. What if you'd had some sudden sink? At times you were just a foot or two from dragging the wheels through the tops. That really quite easily could have ended up with you nose down in the forest. The fact that you were so low once you cleared the trees that you had a practically flat approach just goes to show. That was poor airmanship and dangerous flying. I agree with teh other chap who said they would have taken the controls off you.
@ConradTheCruel this cannot be meant serious, it seems, you just wanted to write sth "cruel", because your name is "TheCruel" ... you never approached this airport and you want to take controls away of someone, who made more than 100 landings there ? are you crazy ? ... btw it looks lower than it is in reality, I think, you didnt know that :-). Thank god, I make my checkrides with pilots, who really know how to approach these kind of airports, because they made thousands of landings here before.
@ConradTheCruel I agree. Way to flat. It's a short strip but better to abort the landing than clip a tree or experience a power loss on final. As a CFI, that scares the crap out of me lol.
Die Flugleiterin sollte sich wohl einmal mit den Rechten und Pflichten eines Flugleiters an einem unkontrollierten Landeplatz vertraut machen!
pm1248 2 hours ago
nice landing!!!
cesaradrian06 10 hours ago
It's not a runway...it's a frickin' TAXIWAY!!!!
:)
Starclassic24 1 day ago
you forgot to arm the autobrake and set the reverse thrust Loool
hsguitarist 3 days ago
No need to go that low at all
slav4o1 3 days ago
That's a short strip ? Not where I come from.
taildragginone 5 days ago
Just wow!
mansanraps 5 days ago
Great, great quality! Nice with those communications :)
JorritdeBruin 5 days ago
your landing was quite too fast and your altitude was too low which makes it difficult to land
AirlineFilms 6 days ago
Lieber Fliegerfreund bei 2.08 hättest es knapp werden können. Ein Fallwind oder ne Bö von rechts.
Es gibt an diesem Platz keinen Grund soooooooo tief anzufliegen!
Der bekannte Spruch:
Es gibt viele junge Flieger und viele alte Flieger; es gibt gute und schlechte Flieger, aber es gibt WENIG alte schlechte Flieger;schlechte Flieger werden nämlich nicht alt. Im Sinne der Demut - die uns Fliegern grundsätzlich gut tut - nach Antoine de Saint de Exupery
Alles Gute und many happy landings!
ThePilot314 6 days ago
Hold on.. lemme get this straight, You are a pilot and a cyclist? dude you are my role model! I am 29 and getting my commercial so I can make aviation my career but cycling will always be my other main hobby. Greetings from southern california.
bugnut82 1 week ago
@bugnut82 yes, I like flying and cycling :-) ... greetings from munich.
wildflyer1de 1 week ago
Very nice vid...just touched down a bit short
5StarDirector 1 week ago
Was it just me or did you touch down on the displaced threshold?
Sweber1983 1 week ago
too gay
snoopdiego9 1 week ago
too low
Ardix89 1 week ago
wir haben gleich ums eck eine ähnliche situation. flugplatz speck bei fehraltdorf. final ist auch über ein waldstück
rockangel1967 1 week ago
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@reddishknight007 : I feel same. Would a steeper descend with same air speed decrease the ground speed and see and feel better? Can the uncoordinated maneuver help that too?
AgedRider 1 week ago
not to be too critical but on short final you were a little low over the forest and trees a touchdown 50ft after the numbers would have been better
reddishknight007 1 week ago
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arrtatube 1 week ago
very nice !
dnhug 1 week ago
@wildflyer1de warst du schon mal in meinerzhagen (EDKZ) in NRW??
SuperApple1995 1 week ago
@SuperApple1995 ja, war mal auf einem modellflugtag dort, aber leider noch nie mit der cessna, ich fliege eig. immer nach süden, ... in die berge ... :-)
wildflyer1de 1 week ago
@wildflyer1de ja im süden is auch schöner. ich finde die berge echt toll, EDKZ is halt nur in meiner nähe, deswegen wollte ich das wissen ;)
Danke, und schönes Video!!
SuperApple1995 1 week ago
error de novato el querer aterizar con llegada baja si llegas con el avion planeando estaria mejor
gomezlima59 1 week ago
Viel zu flach. Für kurze Landungen muss man nicht flach anfliegen. Das würde ich mir schnell wieder abgewöhnen.
chloratum 1 week ago
@chloratum es sieht im video flacher aus, als es in wirklichkeit war ...
wildflyer1de 1 week ago
@chloratum 100.000 Punkte ........ Du hast absolut recht.
Viel zu flach und Touch Down viel zu früh .........
Er hätte den Wald höher überfliegen müssen und dann kontinuierlich sinken!
ThePilot314 6 days ago
it wasn't really necessary to fly that low. But it was cool to watch!
TomCook1993 1 week ago
Why so low approach? In my opinion on flaps you can have much greater angle of descend without fear of hiting the trees.
DelfinoDelphis 1 week ago
Not gonna lie, i was trying to get that mark off my screen and then i realised it was the plane windshield...
Georgieisaporgie 2 weeks ago
@Georgieisaporgie damn, I should have cleaned the windshield ... :-)
wildflyer1de 1 week ago
This landing looks like a normal little controlled aerodrome- nothing difficult about it at all. I have landed in areas that make this one look easy. For one, his approach was too shallow as he came too close the ground too fast. 2nd, doing a "short field" approach with full flap would make this an EASY landing. There's no reason to approach an aerodrome in this manner. If he had an engine failure on final, he'd be hitting the trees on weeds just before for the seal of the runway.
skibumwa2001 2 weeks ago 2
nice video but a fairly low approach, even though the runway is short try not to come in so low it's a bad habit to get into. Maybe a strong, sudden gust and you are in the trees.
NightSchifter 2 weeks ago 15
@NightSchifter good advice for sure.. that runway seemed like a joke tho!
BluesSkillz 4 days ago
Don't want to be rude but you shouldn't be so reckless - aim further down the runway and don't skim the grass.
animotioned 3 weeks ago 6
Very nice...what type of camera setup do you use?
Arbiter419 3 weeks ago
@Arbiter419 its a sony, but older model ...
wildflyer1de 1 week ago
great video and great landing! you are a great pilot, if you are ever in texas ill take you flying
jackfernandez1 3 weeks ago
@jackfernandez1 thx :-)
wildflyer1de 1 week ago
It looks like you come in a bit lower than you would have to, is this the case?
diablovt108vt109 3 weeks ago
That was so low I have to say it was dangerous. If you had an engine failure on final you would have been in the trees.
jonanthonywpg 3 weeks ago
@jonanthonywpg Thanks Mr. flight instructor
BPeden99 3 weeks ago
@BPeden99 What ? Are you a pilot ? I am not a flight instructor. It is just common sense. I take the life of myself and my passengers seriously, no way I would come in so low like that. I know it is a short runway there, but you can still slip it onto the numbers safely and have plenty of runway. It is 1300 feet, lots of room to stop a small plane.
jonanthonywpg 3 weeks ago
@jonanthonywpg Haha, naw I work road construction but I think any landing you can walk away from is a perfect one.
BPeden99 2 weeks ago
@BPeden99 I see what your saying but why take an extra risk on your life when you don't have to ?
jonanthonywpg 2 weeks ago
@jonanthonywpg Then why take an extra risk and go flying if you dont have to?
johnmcknoll 2 weeks ago in playlist Landings 100927
Lol... That didn't look very difficult.......
holthan 3 weeks ago
Oops!! Party Foul there buddy... landed on what seems to be an extended threshold. Nice video though!
BadAssWeed 3 weeks ago
Great Video! What are the cost to fly in Europe? Is it affordable or do Fees really make a difference? Thanks!
galvaflyer 4 weeks ago
@galvaflyer about 100-200 euro per hour
wildflyer1de 1 week ago
Whew thought you were gonna land on the grass there for a sec.
ke3wh 4 weeks ago
Lol there's no way you had to be that low. You were 10 feet above the trees at the end! You'd be surprised how quickly you can stop a 172 with the combination of aerodynamic braking and hydraulic braking.
rampmonkeyyyj 4 weeks ago
man, why the low approach? i thought you were going to land in the grass im front of the runway.
jleebesaw 4 weeks ago
Real shallow approach. Nice...thought you were trying to get that first turnoff at first....
WilliamJSSequeira 1 month ago
Very, very good landing. But, perhaps a tiny bit too low?
TheMobius09 1 month ago
As a low houred (100hr) PPL myself, why would you make your final approach so low?
rsyodi 1 month ago
Dude, you should really come in a bit higher, there is no need to be that low. If your engine goes on you on short final, you have no options. Happy flying!
vindication444 1 month ago
@vindication444 exactly. Shorter runway there, 1300 feet, but you can always slip it onto the numbers if you are worried about runway length.
jonanthonywpg 3 weeks ago
Check EPGY
YeahPL 1 month ago
Nice, engine failure on take off from the reciprocal runway might be a bit hair raising though!
llanbo 1 month ago
Came close to the trees there man. Great Job!!
madzane94 1 month ago
What kind of cheapskake build that runway?
kokalti 1 month ago
Didnt you come in too low?
kwalliander 1 month ago
@kwalliander I was thinking the same, no need to come in so low! Nice video though
jumbo04 1 month ago
Your videos are awesome! keep them coming! I'm a fan of flying too :D
srivasvivaz 1 month ago
illuminati backyard approach
rcacad 1 month ago
lol you barely made that landing
lkorn9150 1 month ago
Nice job! What is the name of this airport?
skeazle 1 month ago
@skeazle hi, the name of the airport is "Jesenwang", EDMJ. it is about 40km west of the city of munich in bavaria/germany.
wildflyer1de 1 month ago 2
At 2:16 I thought you were going to mow some grass as it looked quite low...lol. As long as you land in 1 piece - it's a good landing :o)
Shez74 1 month ago
i want to learn to fly soooo bad, my wife doesnt want me to cause shes in fear of losing me to a failure of the aircraft and that and i respect and love my wife very much so i havent taken classes but my passion is flight and i do want to fly soo bad it hurts
diamondrio21 1 month ago
@diamondrio21 You gotta do it.
Mightiflier 1 month ago
@diamondrio21 Do what I did....ditch the women and go flying...best thing I ever did , lol
jonanthonywpg 3 weeks ago
Nice
ecarrace100 1 month ago
Hey, wenn du mal mit ner gescheiten höhe angeflogen wärst, gehts einfacher, dann musst dich auch nicht bis zur schwelle Quälen
AirberlinLufthansa1 1 month ago
I live in Holland and Germany is not too far away for me... I would like to let you know I really like your videos! Can you upload some more if you have more aviation videos? I really love this airstrip.
Greetings from Holland
MrStefanomusic 1 month ago
@MrStefanomusic hi, thx for your comment.I like flying very much, too :-). there are more videos to come, soon ...
wildflyer1de 1 month ago
I didn't see anything that was too crazy. But then I learned to fly in Alaska where I'm from. You should see some of landing Iv'e made on sandbars in a river.... It's really not that hard after you learn how. and of course knowing the limits of your aircraft & skill.
KenaiFlyer 1 month ago
@KenaiFlyer hi, if you know what do to, its not that hard, true :-)
wildflyer1de 1 month ago
@KenaiFlyer This wasn't Alaska...sometimes you gotta land in some crazy tight spots but he had no excuse to come in so low here.
jonanthonywpg 3 weeks ago 2
Incapable of exercising risk awareness and felt the need to buzz the trees? There are multiple, safer, ways to drop altitude and still make this approach. Would not fly with this character.
MrMattmcallister 2 months ago 2
Echt beeindruckend mit den Bäumen und den flachen Überflüg von der Straße ;)
HamburgAirport 2 months ago
holy your bad in flying almost hit a tree and the ground what pilot are you :S
alecdepalect 2 months ago
why not use slip? too low to save engine out landing. never gonna make it to runway.
TheJessehart05 2 months ago
There's some crap on your windshield. I thought at first that it was on my LCD.
rolfen 2 months ago 8
@rolfen I should have had cleaned the window before flying :-)
wildflyer1de 2 months ago 5
@rolfen thats clean enough
TheThh 1 month ago
No pun intended, the Rawalakot Airport runway, Northern Pakistan, makes this one look like a walk in a super mall. There it is 2900 feet runway surrounded by hills and trees to all sides of the runway, at 5500 elevation. Landing needs some real skill, take off, extreme care. Winds keep shifting most of that compass rose from calm to 12 knots.
bluesky747er 2 months ago
You were flying to low. To low approach. I'd come lower for the landing.
SWE370 2 months ago 2
waau, diese Methode der Landung erfordert grenzenloses Vertrauen in den Motor, nice...
streamRBK 2 months ago
Nice!
ual744 2 months ago
what was so difficult in this landing? actually it was stupid to approach so low wihout a real reason
gresiek 2 months ago
Perhaps I've been flying taildraggers a bit too long; but this runway is not short; and doesn't appear difficult at all.
ParadoxByDesign 2 months ago
wtf you cant talk in a different language on the radios i thought it was all english, well im deffinately not flying to that country
lifes7holy7skateprk7 2 months ago
zu tief
Beachchiller014 2 months ago
right tittle:DIFFICULT PILOT LANIDING OVER THE FOREST ON AN NEW RUNWAY
stealhty1 2 months ago
Lol I flew a real 747 sim. Those $20 million dollar ones. Pretty sweet hehe
nintendokings 2 months ago
golf clap to that did you hit a tree ot something on final and i agree judging the height from the trees is hard i can land a 747 on a sim and have had a lesson but very nice landing. i woulda shit my pants probably when i was going to fast at the end. what plane was this.
patrickmollette15 2 months ago
Love it how everyone is saying that it wasn't difficult... I bet there all the "flight simulator" 15 year old kids, who think they know everything just because they can land a 747 on a sim... Gimps
Its quite hard to judge the height of the trees, Anyway... you did a good job!
OMFGitzDannyP 2 months ago
@OMFGitzDannyP That is an easy approach.. I am a PPL and have flown in Alaska and now fly in New Zealand. This pilot is reckless and/or unskilled and/or not properly trained for landing so low so fast.. Why would anyone ever record and place this embarrassing video on YouTube?
skibumwa2001 2 weeks ago
The displaced threshold is there for a reason - don't land short.
JWY 2 months ago
Not to flat approach or ???
cichy1970 2 months ago
Nothing difficult about at this airfield, you just came in too low.. People think the runway is very short, it just seems short as the runway isn't very wide. You can come in much higher than that, Cessna's and all other single engine props are designed to come in at a high angle incase they have an engine failure.
TheMattyccc 2 months ago 2
Holy shit, a plane video that's not filmed in Flight Simulator. So rare these days.
armorfid 3 months ago
too low brother!!
sergiopiloto87 3 months ago
Please for the next time, make the apch a little bit high .... i think is possible...
combarbala 3 months ago
I didn't see a need for coming in so low. I'd come in higher with full flaps and 60 kts, for that airplane. it didn't seem windy or the field very short but I'm use to that. if your from a big field this would be challenging.
grissomairport 3 months ago 29
@grissomairport I had 60kts plus full flaps too, when you come in much higher, you are not able to reduce speed safely and you can run out of runway quite easily. the field is only (too)short, when you miss the threshold ...
wildflyer1de 3 months ago 5
@wildflyer1de, full 45 deg of flaps in a 172 will more than allow you to increase your decent angle without increased airspeed. Do a search for short field landings in 172 on Youtube.
sexcation 3 months ago
@wildflyer1de but..... you were dragging it in and had to add power to keep from touching early. It's hard to tell, but I do believe you touched down before the runway starts. Isn't that a displaced threshold? It's 'not legal' to land there.
flintp51 2 months ago
@wildflyer1de Do you play Flight Simulator X? :D I don't like flying small airplanes in that game cuz its unstable and too slow. Big commercial jets are much more easier to land.
zszs100 2 months ago
@zszs100 try x plane
BasszusX 1 month ago
@BasszusX Why X plane? whats the advantage of X plane over FSX?
zszs100 1 month ago
@wildflyer1de Still it is what, 1300 feet at least, you can come in high and slip it in. No need to drag it in over the trees like that ! I just don't want to see you get killed if you had an engine failure on final.
jonanthonywpg 3 weeks ago
@grissomairport Yeah, plus that approach gradient leaves no margin for engine failure over those nice BIG trees.
gusyboyy 1 month ago
@grissomairport Nonsense - he didn't come in too low at all. His aiming point was necessarily well before the runway threshold and the distance between the point at which he closed the throttle and the threshold was simply devoured by the round-out and hold off. Admittedly, doing it this way does subject the aircraft to ground effect for longer than other short landing techniques do which isn't helpful but, overall, I thought that it was a very good landing.
bravobravo74 1 month ago
@bravobravo74 Having a aiming point before the threshold is a bad habit...one that could end in a accident if you had an engine stall on final. Happened to me once, engine died on final....I picked my spot 1/3 down the runway but made it to the numbers. Maybe saved the aircraft. Bad habits cost lives and damage airplanes
jonanthonywpg 3 weeks ago
@jonanthonywpg I don't agree I'm afraid. It's not a bad habit to endeavour to land shortly after the threshold when operating from very short strips. You could take the precaution of landing long every time just in case the engine fails on final but overrunning the prepared surface is a sure-fire way to damage a perfectly serviceable aeroplane.
bravobravo74 2 weeks ago
@grissomairport Bro come on, it's YouTube not a flight school.
BPeden99 3 weeks ago
Please explain the dificulty here?
westexpipeliner1 3 months ago 6
@westexpipeliner1 the main difficulty is in writing the word "difficulty" correctly imo :-)
wildflyer1de 3 months ago 24
@wildflyer1de thats pretty low landing it wouldve been a little safer for an extra 50ft incase of a failure
MrJohnnyhye 2 months ago 2
@westexpipeliner1
What about slip?? If you have an engine out on final just abouve the trees with full flaps..... no place to go!
just my opinion..
geo2121geo 3 months ago
Not difficult but don't come too down .
david230196 3 months ago
Not a difficult landing in that strip you just came in way too low! Look how much clearance you have on your short final.
sahandn9 3 months ago
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fincasandaluciablog 3 months ago
2:17 Grass landing. nice try though
fincasandaluciablog 3 months ago
@fincasandaluciablog sorry, you are wrong, but nice try :-)
wildflyer1de 3 months ago
@wildflyer1de jajaja :-)
fincasandaluciablog 3 months ago
@fincasandaluciablog :-)
wildflyer1de 3 months ago
Hi sir,where did you do fix the camera? I normally put mine on the dashboard and its not as stunning as yours.
Physicspilot 3 months ago
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i think it's not a difficult place to land, you have chosen just too low flight path that's all..
TheAntfun 3 months ago
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TheAntfun 3 months ago
Low and hot
allen764 3 months ago
Awesome!! grwat vid thanks for share it;)
wero8a1 3 months ago
Is ja cool. Bist aber extrem niedrig angeflogen. Ich war an eurem Flugplatz noch nie (wie ist denn der Code?), aber als Fremdling wäre ich DEFINITIV höher angeflogen. Im Sommer stelle ich mir den Anflug richtig spannend vor über dem Wald.
wseucan 3 months ago
2:14 Did you hit the ground there?
Anyway, awesome skills!
MrBlankBarcode 3 months ago
@MrBlankBarcode thx for your comment. no, I didnt hit the ground at 2:14, there is only one touchdown, just before the threshold.
wildflyer1de 3 months ago
eigentlich war das weder schwer noch gefaehrlich
ottavva 3 months ago
you were flying much too low !!! the forest is far away !! you're lucky you did not end up in the tree(s) !!
ottavva 3 months ago 2
I could land a fully loaded Cherokee Six in there and takeoff again.. and not break a sweat.
jmr604 3 months ago
Ahhh, I love the state of Bavaria - especially Garmisch-Partenkirchen! May I add my, as we say in the U.S., "two cents"? With all due respect, I could not bring myself to fly that approach, a lot of the time; is just a bit to "shallow" for me, plus I would be scared of those trees! :-) How about coming in high, and use an "aggrivated slip"; that is, unless the POH advises against doing that. However, great video!! Thanks, N-6395T
mmichaeldonavon 3 months ago
@mmichaeldonavon you already have full flaps, i was told in school that it can be dangerous to slip with full flaps. I dont want ot try that :-)
wildflyer1de 3 months ago
@mmichaeldonavon if you like bavaria, watch the video "Zugspitze 2010 - very spectacular flight !! 1080p" in my channel, there I fly just above it and all the great mountains around garmisch/partenkirchen
wildflyer1de 3 months ago
ist da schon mal jemand im gras gelandet? Oo sehr gut geflogen. respekt!
TheRedge12 3 months ago
@TheRedge12 hab ich noch nicht gesehn, aber könnt ich mir schon vorstellen. die meisten, die den platz noch nicht kennen kommen aber zu hoch/schnell rein und kriegen dann evtl probleme mit der kurzen bahn, aber in der regel ist das alles kein problem hier, informieren sollte man sich aber schon etwas, bevor man hier landet ...
wildflyer1de 3 months ago
Wonderful piloting!
NBCboy1 3 months ago
i hate when people who dont know shit about planes think they know everything...
SneakyBever 3 months ago
I see what you did there. The point of your approach is to start an early flare with little energy and touch on the first available bit of runway. You could, however, choose to fly a standard 3° glidepath with your aiming point on the grass in front of the runway. That way you would clear all obstacles with a better margin and still land on the first bit of runway available near stall speed.
sphinxbot 4 months ago 6
@sphinxbot exactly the same idea I had too, when I made my first landing here, this works great, when you have strong head wind. without wind like in the video and lightweight, you touchdown in the middle and you have only 200m of runway left to brake. I aim at the last trees, over them I want to have minimum altitude AND speed incl. usage of the engine if necessary (as in the video). come here, watch the local aircrafts approach for some time, then you will understand :-)
wildflyer1de 4 months ago
@sphinxbot correct! Regards
giuligenti 3 months ago
@sphinxbot shut up pussy badass pilots like myself and this fucker like to run risks cause were fucking badass, fuck a "3" degree glideslope aka the pussy approach! i have balls of steel so i cut corners and run risk and fly drunk ! unlike you rule abiding faggots
alaskanthizzlam 3 months ago
@alaskanthizzlam lol, can you say Macho and anti-authority... good luck staying alive bud
david27peters 1 month ago
@david27peters ur a fucking faggot
alaskanthizzlam 1 month ago
@alaskanthizzlam ha, gotta love that maturity level of your comments
david27peters 1 month ago
@sphinxbot you know, you just sound like a flight simulator expert. :P
fenderstratocaster96 3 months ago
This went from a 3 degree glide path to a 1 degree glide path at about 2:10. Would you have still done that if there were people or cars on the road infront of the runway? I'm sorry but I don't believe you when you say "if you don't approach it like this then you end up somewhere in the middle". Just because it's got a forrest infront of it doesn't make the runway any different.
shirty2 4 months ago
@shirty2 runway is short, narrow, not flat, has a forest on one end and a downward slope on the other (difficult to break, when you hit the runway too late). I had already full flaps, aircraft very light (1person, little fuel), big ground effect, no headwind, 90deg sidewind. if you come in too steep, you are too fast on days like this. many pilots here choose to fly low over the trees ... btw. the tower controls a traffic light for the road, so no cars are crossing when aircrafts approach.
wildflyer1de 4 months ago
@wildflyer1de I still maintain that the last 5 to 10 seconds of your approach was too shallow. All runways are designed to accomadate a standard visual approach without the need of trimming the grass before touchdown. Just cut the power 2-3 seconds earlier in short field approach config (which you did at 60kias) and you'd be able to touch down at the threshold with no problems. A lighter Cessna will give you a shorter breaking distance since the aircraft has less inertia.
shirty2 3 months ago
@shirty2 did I trimm the grass ? I hit the runway exactly where I wanted to hit it. "just before the threshold". I wish, every landing would succeed like this one. there will always be different opinions about approching or landing, and it is always good, to discuss that to improve your skills.
wildflyer1de 3 months ago
@wildflyer1de any landing you walk away from is a good one!
sirtango1 3 months ago
planes clipin down trees. gr8. one more thing crazy tree hugers are gonna be mad about. :/
njs43 4 months ago
Nice evening. If you ever fly the chinook zone in the lee of the rocky mountains, make sure to get a briefing from a local pilot.
MrSunrise1961 4 months ago
Unneccessarily low over the trees. What if you'd had some sudden sink? At times you were just a foot or two from dragging the wheels through the tops. That really quite easily could have ended up with you nose down in the forest. The fact that you were so low once you cleared the trees that you had a practically flat approach just goes to show. That was poor airmanship and dangerous flying. I agree with teh other chap who said they would have taken the controls off you.
ConradTheCruel 4 months ago
@ConradTheCruel this cannot be meant serious, it seems, you just wanted to write sth "cruel", because your name is "TheCruel" ... you never approached this airport and you want to take controls away of someone, who made more than 100 landings there ? are you crazy ? ... btw it looks lower than it is in reality, I think, you didnt know that :-). Thank god, I make my checkrides with pilots, who really know how to approach these kind of airports, because they made thousands of landings here before.
wildflyer1de 4 months ago
@ConradTheCruel I agree. Way to flat. It's a short strip but better to abort the landing than clip a tree or experience a power loss on final. As a CFI, that scares the crap out of me lol.
Vincentvuoto 4 months ago
wo ist das?
MelihAlex 4 months ago
@MelihAlex nähe münchen, ca. 50km westlich
wildflyer1de 4 months ago
気持ちよさそうですね！！
FPTAKA21 4 months ago
$20 for a landing? You've got plenty of fields around to go!
hulkari 4 months ago