Debate: Is Biblical Christianity a religion of Peace? part 3

[Argon09b]

Mr. Fullerton's ceaseless accusations about cherry-picking are somewhat ironic considering his insistence on focusing on his own (one might add, massively flawed) interpretations of a few select passages.

He insists that Scot take the Bible in context, and rightly so. In its full context, the Bible is an excellent explication of how a people were taught to seek God, and eventually found total fulfillment in his only begotten son, Jesus Christ.

[mohdjamlimustafa]

Tsunami,volcanic eruptions and earthquake are the work of god. Since Jesus is god so Jesus is killing innocent people.

[GenghisKrahn]

Both these dudes just need to realize that each of their religions are pretty much the same, and both as ridiculous as they point out each others to be.

[beachman007]

does this Pakistani Pastor guy speaks in English or Gibberish don't mean to offend him but i can not understand him at all???

[followerofjesus1984]

what nadi doesnt realise, is that the old testament has 2 two way line of understanding, 1 the horrific things that happened in the old testament, is that we two learn what we are not to do, we take a stance that we can read and undersand the way God handled sinful people

2 i as a christian im not instructed to take these teachings in such a case, somethings are profitable to live out in life, and the others are there profitable in the sense that as knowledge

[followerofjesus1984]

luke 19 : 27 is the tale end of a situation where the handful of servent who r the followers of Chris, are to spread the gospel and if we fail to do this ten we will be banished

[1257khan]

Yea! Haleluja! GRACE!!! What a HYPOCRISY! If its grace period..tthen starting from All the wars that have been fought by the Christians since..say..600AD..The massacres of the crusaders,Spanish Conquistadors massacring Aztecs..man more,Iraq(On pretext of wmd's) ,Serbian(Christians)Genocide,R­ussians(CHRISTIANS)massacring Chechens,I can go on & on.Its GRACE for Christians whener it pleases them.."pack of hungry wolves in sheepskins!"

[1257khan]

Typical Christian preachers- They DONT even remember their simple verses from their Bibles and then have trouble locating it in the Bible! they STUTTER..FUMBLE..and are experts at EVASION TACTICS!..just like the... NAVY SEALS!!

[BabylonFading2012]

If anyone here has studied Islam, it has a very evil approach to soul-winning: "Do you want to become a muslim, if you say no I'm gonna cut your head off!" That is called Jihad (holy war) this is why Muslim extremists blow themselves up, they beleive that they will go to Islamic paradise (the place where u can do everything u couldn't do as a muslim on Earth. In this paradise are: No women (they have no souls), lots of pork, wine and orries (angelic beings that sexually-satisfy the men forever)

[Squee505]

wow this guy really wishes he could commit genocide.... and the other guy really likes grace... seven times.

[IslamIsTruth2255]

@Squee505 He doesnt want to commit genocide, read the title of the video. He's debunking the Christians claim that the Bible only teaches peace.. and quite successfully i might add.

Allahu Akbar!

[BabylonFading2012]

Daniel Scot clearly won! Such a wise fellow!

[tryingtobegood1]

lol you were being sarcastic right?

[imreadyyo26]

wow this christian just confirmed from his rambalings that moses was not like jesus. he said moses brought law and scripture and jesus did not. that confirms that muhammad is the last messanger since god said in the old testament that there will be a prophet like that unto moses. sorry from this statement right here i will convert to islam .

[bindumas]

So what Daniel Scot is saying is when jesus was on earth the 1st time he was a nonviolent gandi but when he returns he will be a violent dictator who will mass murder all non christians.

[Nocturnalux]

I find it odd how the Muslim did not seem to have any problems with that. The way Daniel Scot presented it makes it seem like Christians must be nice for a while and then Jesus returns and slaughters everyone who is non-Christian and that is perfectly fine.

[achilleus11]

grace grace grace.

PIECE OF SHYT ANSWER THE QUESTION.

PUT THAT GRACE IN YOUR ASS

[simpleOgre]

Another moron.

Well it is in the bible that a father is giving his daughter in law (one of his sons wife) to all his sons and eventually he gets her too. Watch the series (sex in bible).

You are taught how to do incest in your own bible.

SICK!!

[gagnashdiak]

As FMProductionz says.

[FMProductionz]

Daniel Scot got slaughtered

[glenedictaz289]

nadir ahmed ,you are a lost soul

[simpleOgre]

and you are the one who should commits genocide according to your bible.

[aramide1818]

It you is totally lost why is it that Christian select the verse of the bible that favour them? if bible is real and you believe in it!

[confusedimigrant]

this is not fair Christian guy speaks good and fast English so he manages to make best of the given time. on the other hand things are not very favorable for Muslim fella.

[mustafagtgt]

They both speak good english!

David is traind at gving a good talk...

[confusedimigrant]

on you can clearly see he is suffering to complete his sentences.

[ahmadh007]

Alhumdulillah, ty for the share

[mustafagtgt]

Christianity actually influences transgression because Christians are taught to be onlookers rather then making effort to purge evil.

Even according to this Christian speaker evil should be tolerated at all levels. Of course in a realistic environment (the real world) evil and transgression should not be tolerated and when ever a true moral human being witness evil he should try his best to stop it.

When a Muslim witnesses transgression, oppression or mischief he/she should try to stop it.

[musliminshallah]

but then why are muslim countries the worst? believe me i went to soudi in ramzaan and bro there all gays man no joke!

[PrInCeSsuk8]

r u muslim?

[mustafagtgt]

This Christian Pastor is so inconsistent with his own arguments. On one hand he is admitting that Jesus ordained genocide on a mass scale but then also argued and admitted that Jesus accepted repentance later on when he became flesh. We can conclude that Jesus had a hypocritical nature and his own laws were abrogated. Simple question, why couldnt Jesus forgive Adam? Where was the grace?

[musliminshallah]

lol, u athiest? if Isa had a hypocritical nature then you deny ur own prophet, muslims why dont u realise jesus is our prophet aswel, stooopid idiots, u lot have no understanding of islaam, if u did u wudnt keep debating christians!! u argue with the people wich our own book confirms are also the people of God, u muslims aint muslims ur frikkin jews man

[mustafagtgt]

I am talking about the Jesus of the Bible NOT the Jesus according to Islam. Jesus/ Isa (pbuh) was not hypocrytical but the Jesus ACCORDING to the Christians was truly hypocritical.

As Muslims we belive that Jesus (pbuh) is a mighty prophet AND the final Messiah sent to the Jewish community. We are the ONLY relgion besides Chrsitianity to accept Jesus (pbuh) as a mighty beloved prophet and a messenger to Allah.

Your ignorant comments shows that you are not a Muslim at all.

[musliminshallah]

WRONG.. jesus was the ONLY messiah according to all religions.. and NO.. jesys is prophet in many faiths even sikhism he is a man of God and prophet.. he is also prophet in other faiths if u want me to name them i wil?...

[mustafagtgt]

Islam is the ONLY relgion that belives in JESUS AS A MESSENGER AND ABIDES BY HIS TEACHINGS. Sikh people do not follow Jesus in fact their scripture is purly man inspired! It came after Islam!

[musliminshallah]

wake up you fool, i dont want to debate here if u want to debate me tho just say? anyway islam does not abide by his teachings becuase if u did u wud believe killing is forbiden, and wat does it matter if sikhism came after islam? do u know in the bible there are no messangers from the line of ishmael and there is no prophet after messiah? just becuase they believe that doesnt meen its true tho, do u want me to name all the diferent religions that believe jesus?

[mustafagtgt]

I dont mind engaging in a debate with people such as your self, but the real question is whether YOU are mentally prepared for a defeat!? Your lack of tangible information reveals your ignorance. Dont bother wasting precious time sifting through the internet. LOL You are such a looser.

You have sown the seeds for your own demise.

[musliminshallah]

loool sifting throu internet? im not like you bro i read what the holy books say im not copy pasting like u... u havnt even answerd wot i said typical lier just twist my words and try 2 make it like i said wot i didnt!! loool bro even devil worshipers believ jesus y u make it a big deal hahaha this doesnt prove ur good infact it proves ur very decieving becuz u use prophets names 2 try show ur religion is valid, go bak 2the cave...

[mustafagtgt]

Its not simply about accepting a prophets reality rather it is about actually implementing the prophet and accepting him as a messenger of Allah! Even Satan is aware of the Allahs reality but Satan CHOOSES to deny his commands and he has sworn to be Allahs enemy. It is HIGHLY significant for a sincere believer to follow and believe in the prophets since if we dont believe in the messenger then obviously you wont believe in the message!

[musliminshallah]

lool, uno something even ahmadans believe in the messangers even joseph smith cult believe messangers u stildont get it quran teaches opposite way 2 live life 2 torah and injil even hindu and bhuddist scriptures r more closeley related 2 bible!! im not guna debate, i do believe muammad was a good man but u muslim say his religion is the only way this is not true theres many contradiction in quran

[pillgrimz]

name them to me please.

[ooklepookle]

because Christians don't know anything about Islam so we tell them.

[musliminshallah]

so does that meen God couldnt preserv his other books? did he let people corrupt the older messages? bro im not here to debate my fellow muslims i know il win, but it will just fall on deaf ears, my advise is stop listning to you corrupt and hate filled wahabi teachers! we are all one

[PrInCeSsuk8]

shat up!!! u fool!!

[musliminshallah]

u have no brain believe me

[jaffrson]

[15.9] Surely We have revealed the Reminder and We will most surely be its guardian.

[15.10] And certainly We sent (apostles) before you among the nations of yore.

[15.11] And there never came an apostle to them but they mocked him.

[5.48] And We have revealed to you the Book with the truth, verifying what is before it of the Book and a guardian over it, therefore judge between them by what Allah has revealed,

[ooklepookle]

God already knew what people were going to do when he created us it says it in the Torah,bible and the Quran. He knew what we were going to do but he allowed us to do it instead of changing things because he is love

[musliminshallah]

yeah.. he knew what they where guna do, but he let 124,000 prophets message get corupted .. exept one!! so all other messages of his he let people corrupt them and let them enter hell exept one.. brother i cant be botherd lol u can never explain these things to some1 with 1 eye n a hardend heart

[ooklepookle]

are you referring to yourself or me?

[mustafagtgt]

Allah never let them get corrupted, you dummy Allah kept on sending new prophets as warners to nations one after the other. Our beloved prophet (pbuh) was the FINAL Prophet and a culmination to all other previous prophets. Very simple to understand

[musliminshallah]

then if he dont let them get corrupted why not follow judaism or christianity? where are 124000 prophets books?

[mustafagtgt]

Not all sent down revelations, there is a differece between a Nabi and a Rasool. You are SOOO dumb! LOL

[musliminshallah]

was muhammad nabi or rasool? he cant have been nabi becuase he didnt even know God existed when he was born, he only knew that the jews and christians believed in 1 God wud it be fair to say he got his knowledge from them? it would be easy for me to say that.man u r sooo dumb im not guna say anymore becuase i dont wana put down any prophet but if i wanted to i cud debunk ur whole beliefs but fuk it i cant b arsed i got a job and a life unlike u

[mustafagtgt]

Smell the coffee beans mate, you are not that clever and your comments stem from your absolute ignorance of this topic. Only retarded people comment gibberish such as your self. Your profile and your comments highlight your absolute stupidity since there is no substance to what you say First go and LEARN the BASICS and fundamental tenants of Islam before even TRYING to criticize it. May Allah guide people like you to some commonsense.

[mustafagtgt]

Do you know that all the ten gurus were born after the ascension of Jesus (pbuh)? All the 11 teachers or mentors of Sikhism were the founders of Sikh philosophy and salivation was not associated with Jesus (pbuh) at all.

You need to appreciate your stupidity LOL

[musliminshallah]

when did i say salvation is throu jesus in sikhism? and by the way i know quran, guru granth sahib and sikhism and im not copy pasting like you.. the difference btwn islam and every other religion is u think u will go to heaven by believing prophets, where as the prophets themselves said its only through good deeds and actions etc u will get 2know God, the funniest thing is u say u believe jesus yet u do EVRYTHING he told people not 2do LOL

[mustafagtgt]

It is an article of FAITH that makes Islam unique from other world religions. What you dont understand is the fact that Islam does not simply accept the possibility of Jesus being a prophet rather we believe with full conviction that ALL the prophets mentioned in the Bible are legitimate and we highly respect ad revere their points. We derive wisdom and knowledge from them as no other religion does except for Judaism and Christianity.

[musliminshallah]

dont tel me what i understand brother i have studied quran and sunna since last year its like im sayin potato and ur saying tomato any1can believe a prophet exist u follow DIFFERENT teaching to judaism even they have 10 commandment 1 is u shall not commit murder yet its DEATH if some1 leave islam! jesus said love those who hate u muhammad teaching is 2kill those those who hate islam or put jizia tax on them y u using prophet name sayin u believ them what is point if u do OPPOSITE 2wat they teach

[mustafagtgt]

Guru Granth Sahib says: "God is not the monopoly of a group or person,

Any one can receive His grace through love and devotion (page 658)."

Jesus has NOTHING to do with Sikh philosophy.

[bindumas]

christian stop pretending to be muslim

[dilawer321]

hes not pretending, he is a ex muslim scholar who converted to christianity

[bindumas]

scholar..lol ? I want to see the ijazah until then I don't buy it.

[dilawer321]

u dont have 2 buy it i dont think it realy matters if u do or not, but hes a pakistani, and in pakistan he was 1 of the top 10 scholars of islam in the 60s/70s, thats 1 of the reasons that a lot of people in pakistan want to shut him up, they dont want any1 to see that some1 with that sort of knoweledge of islam has rejected islam, but im not putting you down, we are all the same, we will stick 2 our faiths nomater what the evidence against it, i think u will agree....

[bindumas]

based on what?

[dilawer321]

huh? what u mean based on what? are u trying to debate me or sumthin?....

[muslim9x9x]

why did god wait 1,500 years to send jesus? why did the holy prophet come 600 yrs after Jesus? It is god's will, the early Revelations were allowed to be corrupted so the FINAL and COMPLETE divine law shall supersede it.

[musliminshallah]

thats not the point, becuase no other jewish or christian prophet ever said that the words or books of previous prophets were corrupted, only the prophet muhammad pbuh said all other revelations before him are corrupted.. get it?..

[mustafagtgt]

Our beloved prophet did not say it ALLah said it in the Quran. The Previous scripture should have been taken care of by the people becasue they had responsibility of the revelations. The Jewish high priests did not carry out their responsibilities.

[musliminshallah]

you just say Allah never let his word get corrupted? now u say the jewish high priests corrupted them? brother u are not bieng consistant make up your story then write it you not making sense?..

[RapaTerntSanga]

what is peace? lol

is being oppressed & not reacting to it an act of peace??..

[mustafagtgt]

Its not really one sided because David Wood who is a Christian debater regularly wants to have debates and sends challenges to popular Muslims.

Christians boast about their evangelical faith and not Muslim but today it is MORE important for Muslims to defend their faith.

I hope you appreciate these hard times.