Don't Panic - A Case Against Catastrophic Warming Forecasts

[NASAsCO2LIES]

A warmer planet would be a good thing. Fossil records show an abundance of life when CO2 levels are higher and temps are warmer. Clouds are a GHG, and are by far the most effective gas. Thank God for global warming and stop cursing man.

[cypress1337]

settled science or not, action is better then inaction.. i hate burning fossil fuel.

[tybouk]

@cypress1337

No matter what that action would include?

[cypress1337]

I think there will be taken action accordingly how serious the situation is. If the skeptics are wrong we will have more suffering, and if the greenist wrong we have renewable energy. I think its not a hard choice.

[SniperViper1000]

@cypress1337 Every type of resource is renewable.

Some just take longer to renew then others.

[OxAO]

@cypress1337

said, "action is better then inaction"

First I agree with your second point. I hate burning Islamic fossil fuels as well and would love to stop giving them money.

But action without thought is always wrong.

For example: which statement is true:

A. The earth is at an extremely low CO2 concentration level based on the last 500 million years

B. The earth is at an extremely high CO2 concentration level based on the last 500 million years

If you picked B your wrong

A: true

[kenjibeast]

cocksucking faggots

[suemorphplus2009]

The time is now for politicians simply to show some helpful ideas, such as approving of nuclear power easing so that it should make a comeback ASAP, and a way of being exempt from this cap and trade bill, for even the people who would go deep into debt from buying solar! The politicians' lack of really including the general public in their special ideas is what really drives the opinion down gradually about Global Warming over this decade, because the politicians' words show more exclusion!

[quuaa1]

I've heard from multiple sources temperature drives Co2, not the other way around, you're wrong.

[hayesism]

Yep that comes mainly from ice core data. It's demonstrably true that temperature variations have preceded CO2 changes, and even the alarmists haven't been able to come up with a counterargument to this (not even a poor one). They just dismiss it as irrelevant. Hence, they're antiscientific.

[surferpeteinspace]

@cowinyourface

I noticed they are spamming you too.. they are retarded... really.

you wrote - "The Myth of Dangerous Human-Caused Climate Change "

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icecap[.]us/images/uploads/200 705-03AusIMMcorrected.pdf

[cowinyourface]

YouTube facists are SPAMMING freedom of speech.

Surferpeteinspace remarks ARE NOT SPAM.

[prunar]

Just saw for the first time in human history polar ice may completely break up for the summer. Glad to know it's not anthropogenic global warming.

[packrat76]

First time in human history? I highly doubt that. Just because our ancestors didn't record it, doesn't mean it didn't happen before.

[prunar]

packrat, I don't know if you are ignorant of fossil records ("coccoliths" in this case) or maybe you subscribe to Young Earth Creationism. If you "doubt" it, read about it. Between 700,000 to 4 million years ago was the last time there was open ocean in the Arctic. Humans have been around since about 200,000 years ago. If you think science is in conflict with your religion/politics, then feel free to give me a thumbs down.

[packrat76]

We really don't know how long we've been around. I don't think it's only a few 100,000 years. If we did really evolve it was only 200,000 years ago we ended up close to what we are today? I think it would take more time. The fossil records we actually discovered don't have all the answers. The ice never did completely melt this summer. Are you disappointed? Feel free to thumb down my comment.

[prunar]

200,000 years since we became a unique species from the ancestral species. It was only used to compare the time element of polar ice cap existence anyway. Fossil records do not tell the story, but they can give much information in the context of other data.

No, I don't rejoice in the melting of the ice caps, and I offended you I see. My bad.

[EmperorJ666]

you need to go research the "little ice age" and the medieval warm period.

[prunar]

Little Ice Age and Medieval Warm Period are both thought to involve North Atlantic regions only, as no other supporting evidence exists. During both times, CO2 proportion was the same as last 800,000 years. Only in the last 100 years did we change that variable. It's hard to imagine but we continuously spew more than 130 times amount of CO2 that volcanoes exhaust in an average year. Check gristmill(dot)grist(dot)org.

[Gwynne66]

The LIA and MWP are known to have been felt all through the northern hemisphere. The MWP was documented primarily in Europe for the obvious reason that Europe was both densely populated and maintained detailed records during the time. However, there is abundant indirect evidence that the temperature changes weren't limited to Europe.

[prunar]

If by "indirect evidence" you mean geological markers, I would prefer to give more weight to that, than to anecdotal records that cannot be verified for accuracy. That means, the markers ought to be present where ever MWP was supposed to have taken place.

[Gwynne66]

Yeah, I mean evidence from observations of geological markers, vegetation, dead critters, etc. The idea that the MWP wasn't widespread was just a brief nonsensical claim because Mann's now-debunked "Hockey Stick" did away with the MWP. We now know it is because Mann was a piss-poor scientist and may have committed actual fraud - depending on whether you believe he was a liar or a fool.

[prunar]

Do you feel that the rapid deforestation of Europe circa 1000 AD had any possible significant effect on MWP? I'm having difficulty finding sources in major climate research orgs that state MWP was global, or at least throughout northern hemisphere.

[Gwynne66]

I don't know about deforestation in Europe around 1000 AD, rapid or otherwise.

I have seen papers claiming to have evidence of the MWP in areas from North America to Europe, to Siberia to China. I haven't looked at the evidence too closely but it superficially seems more plausible than the lone claims of the IPCC that the MWP was localized to Europe.

[SniperViper1000]

@prunar WOW! I've never heard such a bigger lie!

[prunar]

@SniperViper1000 What is this? Stupid Comment Day? Oh, I guess you are still drunk...

[SniperViper1000]

@prunar Which comment may I ask you were referring too?

[cowinyourface]

Global Warming is a GLOBAL FRAUD, to get you paying Carbon Credit Taxes.

Fact is the earth is cooling again.

So they are spraying Chemtrails to poison and keep in heat.

We the people are sick and tired of the crazy fake paid off scientists, in any other industry they would be disciplined for professional misconduct.

In the 80's it was OZONE !

In the 90's - Global Cooling

In the 00's - Global Warming

Now 2010 - Global Cooling again !!

SEE

/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI

[prunar]

Tundra peat melts release CO2, as does desertification, and increasing acidity of oceans due to absorption of CO2. Seems like a lot riding on your assumptions.

[StevePlague]

I have never believed in global warming and it was simply because of the stupidity and the RAGE of the belivers who HATED me for showing them they knew nothing, and since I also knew nothing about the issue at the time, I knew they were just plain stupid. Now I can show them how stupid they REALLY are.

[jnr1989]

fake!

[carlgt1]

jeez, why bother with science if the spawn of right-wing idiots can do it all!

[OxAO]

that is the best video I have seen on what the argument is.

Thank you

[EasyEs]

Great video. Anyone following the recent science on the feedback mechanisms will clearly see that the science is not settled. Cloud formation, permafrost methane, Arctic albedo changes all appear to be be minor or negative feedbacks.

[DrCantankerous]

Finally!