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  • i am 12 and am 6ft tall ( ik im pretty abnormal ) and i play soccer i have been doing lunges and lung jumps and calf raisers for a long time for conditioning and was wording if you could show some drill to help u jump higher

  • I'm not trying to hate or anything but, these shoes are most effective when you jump with footwork that gives you the maximum output of energy such as going for a dunk in basketball. When you do a normal hop, I don't there will be much difference

  • @Ilikesoda100 I hear you and I tried doing some running jump sin another one of my videos. I didn't get anywhere near as high in the APL's. They just seem to feel heavy when i wear them and I end up jumping noticeably lower in them because of it.

  • I'm 14 in the 8th grade and can grab the top of the net and I really want to dunk.

    Is there any tips and workouts that will help my jump get higher?

    is there any certain shoes that would work too?

    (I'm 6ft btw)

  • @BehindMyIphone You should visit verticaljumpingDOTcom and read the free jump training articles and watch the free jump training videos. There are no sheos the can replace the benefits of proper training, especially the APL's which if you ask me, simply are a scam.

  • those shoes cost like 100000 dollars lol

  • Well you where the one jumping so I'll take your word for it. I got the shoes and for me they slightly work but your right they're not worth the money.

  • No efforts given jumping in the apls, your just flopping your hands up and down unlike with the Kobe's where show more effort

  • @StMiikey DO you really beleive that? Why would I not try on the APL's. If they worked I would tell everyone to buy a pair. There is a good reason they don't sell these in stores, it is because everyone would be able to try them on and see that they don't work before they paid for them. These shoes are a scam if you ask me.

  • @VerticalJumping - So if you want to show they don't work, that's just fine. Retest them, starting with one of the other pairs as the first attempt, the APL's in the middle, and the other pair last. Make sure you use appropriate (or at least consistent between attempts) technique for every attempt. Ideally, you would jump, wait, jump, etc. rather than four rapid jumps in succession. Those rapid jumps are NOT the kind of jump technique the APL's would theoretically increase.

  • @biggsphotography I did test them in a more single jump type environment - see my other video on this. And they were worse in that test as well. It shouldn't matter how you jump in them, if they worked I should be able to jump higher. The adfvertising never mentions you need to jump in a certain way for them to work. I say again - the reason they are only available online is because people would otherwise test them in stores and upon discovering they don't work, not buy them.

  • @VerticalJumping - 'The advertising never mentions you need to jump in a certain way'... Are you serious? If you want to test something you to do it in a controlled variable circumstance. That means putting the test and the control under the same circumstances. To do otherwise is like saying one car is faster than another but testing the control car on a 1/4th mile track prepped for racing and testing the claimed faster car on the street from stoplight to stoplight. It's biased and bad testing.

  • @biggsphotography Your argum ent makes no sense. I tested them against several pairs of shoes in exactly the same way and each time they failed to match the jumps I got in the regular shoes. That isn't bad or biased, that is how they should be tested. You were the one suggetsed I needed to jump in a certain way for them to work - I merely pointed out that they should work no matter hwo you jump - which to me, they don't.

  • @VerticalJumping - I did watch that video as well and it also appeared in that one that you were giving less than maximum effort. It's apparent that you are biased and don't believe the shoes work, which the might not, I don't know. But because of your obvious bias you shouldn't be the one testing them. Want a QUALITY test? Give three pairs shoes to someone else and make them jump in all of them and measure their results and interview about their thoughts WITHOUT telling them about APL's claims.

  • @biggsphotography Now this I totally agree with. A blind test method would be the best way to go but you know if I did that I would almost certainly have people commenting on the video claiming I worded people up beforehand. I wish the shoes worked for me, I would love a couple of extra inches. However, they just don't. Others say they do and good for them. If they really worked they would be the number 1 selling basketball shoe in the world. Even at $200 a pair.

  • i like my kobe's....but they really dont give me that much ankle support and they have come off my foot during games sometimes (only twice but still) there still really light shoes

  • @MrJartmen Try the new Hyperdunks. They are light also but have higher ankle support. I have a pair and I love them. I like the Kobe's more though!

  • @MrJartmen dude, adidas crazylights, lightest shoes ever in basketball history :D

  • @Princejabba I would love it if the Crazylights came in a low cut.

  • U run this website and you can't even jump...

  • @maraouiandre Actually my current running vertical is about 34 inches which at near 37 years old and not training for vertical in well over 2 years is pretty good. And if I can be frank this is most likely better than yours.

  • every variable is a factor. You must have the same jump every time to get conclusive results.

  • What was that little gadget you have? I'd love to get one of those!

  • @d63sx5 It is a Myotest device. Very simple to use vertical jump and power output measurement tool. I use it for all sorts of things such as bar speed, jump height and velocity etc to help determine optimal training loads and volumes.

  • They weigh 16.3 ounces. also this video has inconclusive results, I do not own any of the shoes shown in this video so you can be sure im not just routing for my favorite shoe. The tests cannot be concidered accurate because the athlete clearly does not load in his jump while wearing the APL shoes, while at the same time he does load while wearing the other shoes (note his arms in each jump) and tries considerately harder to jump higher with the other shoes.

  • @TheVideoGuru1 Hi Video Guru, I know that on the first jump in the APL's that is shown on the video I didn't use my arms as much. This was not intentional and I sure as hell tried to jump as high as I could. The result shown in the video is actually the best result I got in the APL's. Most tests they weren't even that good. If they weight 16.3 as you say they are considerably heavier than the Nike Kobe's. They feel noticeably heavier on your feet. They don't work. At All.

  • not that i'm buying the apl's but i seriously think you put more effort in the nike and wade jump tests

  • i agree these shoes are heavy, its like running with cardboard heavy boxes on your feet. dont get it its a waste of money!!!!!!

  • You said these were heavy. How many ounces?

  • @jabbowokee13 I don't know to be honest. It doesn't say on their website either. They definitely feel much heavier than the Nike Kobe Zoom's though.

  • it looks like youre on some kind of mat.  test them on hardwood.

  • @7vgitz It is hard rubber gym mat. I also tested them on the hardwood. See my other video for that one. The reality is it shouldn't make too much difference as I was comparing them to different shoes - all tested on the same surface.

  • they did say some people got to 3 or more inches and some wont get any so they could still work for some

  • @grantd272 And this is the problem. If you pay $200 for a pair of shoes on the premise that they help you jump higher - which is a VERY bold claim indeed, you would expect that they work. And if the shoes were really as good as advertised they should work for everyone, otherwise, it isn't really the shoes at all.

  • im actually thinking about getting these shoes. i want to try them and see whether i can jump higher or not but if not then its alright. i can wear them as a casual shoe or basketball shoe.

  • @schecterguitarsfan If you live in Melbourne Australia and are a size 10.5 you are welcome to come over and try a few jumps in them. They don't help me jump higher but I like the look of them so I still occasionally wear them in pick up games and casually. They are ok to play in, but a bit heavy for my liking.

  • Do they work if you strap them to your head? If you get some many more inches then you would need to strap them to your head so you don't hit the roof.... You could then bounce up and down like a yo yo...

    Stand on your head and try them again. I hear they work better...

    What stupid people will buy. I also have the twin towers for sale! Any takers.

  • now u should sue them coz it not work

  • u didnt even try on the apls

  • @ChillyPCA Was this directed at me? If so did you watch this video or my other one? When I jump in them I get less jump height than I do in the Nike's (and several other pairs of shoes I own for that matter). I love the look of the APL shoes, but for me they don't help me jump higher.

  • @SuperPhillips69 I definitely didn't try harder in the Kobe's. Why would I do that? I don't work for Nike. The shoes simply don't work.

  • @VerticalJumping I think you could have given more effort in all tests. I think the effort factor was significant. Also trying different jumping mechanisms would definitely help comparisons, as would more data sets for each shoe. It sounds incredibly fishy the way you present and defend your results.

  • @SuperPhillips69 I definitely didn't try harder in the Kobe's. Why would I do that? I don't work for Nike. The shoes simply don't work.

  • it could work based only on placebo effect

  • I suggest using one foot, instead of just using only two feet in all of your APL Shoe test's. It depends on how much explosive power you have on your legs. Maybe work on your legs a little more, and then test the APL Shoes again. Instead of doing 3 tests using two feet, try doing 6 tests, half are using two feet to jump, and the other half using only one foot to jump (while running). Try to make a video of my idea please. I just want to see if there will be a difference on jumping with one foot.

  • @iReviewTechno It shouldn't matter if I jump off one or two feet, the alleged mechanism for giving extra inches should work just the same. Also I have plenty of explosive power in my legs, the shoes don't help at all.

  • didnt u jump with the apl first though? so the reason y u jumped higher with the kobe n wades is cuz u were warmed up

  • @RayMangahasTV I tried the APL's shoes before and after the Kobe's. No matter what I tried they never resulted in a higher jump. They don't work. I have a second video where I did running jumps in them too. Same result - lower jumps in the APL Concept 1's.

  • can you make a video of you jumping off two feet with the APL shoes with a running start

  • @BRBeatz Hi BrBeatz, I might just do that next Tuesday morning for you. Stay tuned

  • I totally agree with you. Shoes that make you jump higher is a scam...especially for $200. However, I will say that in theory they COULD probably only work during a "running" two foot jump. Also, only those that can already jump pretty high (over 36" running) claim they help, where as those with sub-par hops claim they don't. That being said, if one can't jump they just can't jump. Whereas if you take a guy with hops, you could have him jump with and w/o a sweatshirt on and see a difference.

  • This is an extremely biased experiment. You go into the test thinking that the APLs are not going to work and therefore consciously or subconsciously put less effort into the APL jumps. It is easy to see this by the video. I'm not saying APL's do or don't work. But this video doesn't prove anything. I'll assume you've taken some statistics in your day, so you should know that for a true experiment the shoes should be tested against one another without the subject knowing which one he has on.

  • @J0shTh0mas42 See my comment. I agree with you BOTH to a degree. I can jump pretty high and am a two foot jumper, if should have some springs in front, I would almost guarantee one could get a little higher consistently, but I only think that applies to those with above average hops off 2 feet. Just my thoughts.

  • @cbdud Fair enough!

  • @J0shTh0mas42 absolutely right Josh. A sample size of 1 is also not ideal. However Josh for the life of me I tried jumping my ass off to get higher. I have also played games in them and done some max effort jumping. They are heavy and cumbersome compared to the Nike Kobe's that I used in the video. I wish they weren't and I would happily say so if they worked.. They just don't.

  • it's pronounced kobE you say the e at the end

  • @thomas3718 lol

  • @thomas3718 SOrry Thomas. No offence intended. I am actually a massive Kobe Bryant fan.

  • @VerticalJumping no worries man, I've been a kobe fan since I was a kid. it was just buggin me haha

  • @thomas3718 Its his accent bell

  • You can send me the apl's if you don't want them lol

  • @macdaddy888beast Ha ha. I actually play my pick up games in them pretty regularly. Not because they help me jump higher (which they sure as hell do not) but because I paid money for them and despite not working, they do look cool.

  • You used your arms harder with the Kobes on, and with the Converses. I stopped watching after that. Good video though. Also, where the fuck are you? Why is it like an all white, empty room in the back? lol

  • @Deadpool013 I am in my private gym. At the time of that video I didn't have doors etc. I did a bunch of tests in the APL's none of them got near the Kobe's, the one shown was the best result. The arm swing certainly wasn't deliberate

  • @VerticalJumping Private gym?! That's sick. It looks cool, that's why I asked. And I know the arms weren't intentional I was just saying...again, sick room.

  • @Deadpool013 Thanks man. My wife and I recently built a new house, part of the design was ensuring I had a big space and facilities for training people at home. I am very lucky.

  • @Shabiooo like the Kobe's myself

  • Dude if you watch as you jump when you throw your arms you jumped quite about higher but on your 2nd, 3rd, and 4th jumps were all quite a bit lower...and when you jumped with the APL's all your jumps were pretty equal...the shoe trying swinging your arms when trying them and you just might get better results because i know as a fact you jump higher when you swing your arms rather than not

  • you retard the APL's make you run faste if you run faster you jump higher and if you just use the shoes like you should it they would increase your verical leap they did with me i could dunk i took the shoes on now im dunking

  • They were banned for a reason.

  • @DanPrinMan Apparently. I wish I knew what that reason was though. These shoes definitely do not help you jump any higher.

  • umm... on the kobe and converse shoe tests on your initial jump you held your arms out in front of you and swung them more giving you extra power in your jump. on the apl test you started with your arms hanging by your side.

  • @kb24forMVP I hadn't noticed that. However I actually don't think it would make much difference because the test was over 4 reps and it was maximum height I used which would most likely have come from the 2-3 jumps, not the first one. Also I actually did a about 5-6 tests using the APL shoes and I would definitely have used the same arm swing motion on some of the others but in none of the tests did I get close to the Nike Kobe result.

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  • Nice try... not very representative, cause only one tester....

  • @fabianjucker You are absolutely right. A true scientific test would involve a lot bigger sample size than just the one person. However, I never claimed it was anything other then me testing the shoes. I also did a whole bunch of other tests in them and they never got close to the Nike Kobe's. Last night I also played a game in them and again, did a few max effort running jumps. Usually I can still grab the rim but in the APL's I was just able to touch it. They definitely don;t work for me.

  • I have to say that the apl gave me like half an inch. but that's not a whole lot. and definitely not what they claimed. basketball performance wise, it's not that good.

  • Didnt even know about these things.

    Glad I didnt, cause I certainly would have bought them, haha.

    Good review, thanks alot!!

  • you saved many people a lot of money

  • gr8 vid

  • Hey Jack, thanks for doing this, what a great test! You tested the APLs afterwards as well? My concern originally was that you were just getting warm, but it seems as though you tested the APLs several times.

  • @Cloud3205 I did indeed test the APL shoes a few times. They just never gave me as much as height as the Nike's on any of the tests.

  • @VerticalJumping That's a good deal man, I actually bought some track waffles after seeing this.

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  • cool stuff, would have been interesting to see a couple running jumps also

  • I would like to see this same device/test used in a type of running vertical jump or a drop step and on hardwood.

  • @evolvedfootwear Certainly you could do this test with a Vertec on a basketball court but I would expect the outcome to be similar. Given the constant conditions I used used - same day, same location, same surface, 5 minutes apart, I would expect the APL shoes magic to have worked if there was any.

  • You should do the same thing with running shoes (say, Nike Darts IV) and Nike Waffles.

  • @Raptorel I think the lighter shoes would probably win by more.

  • @VerticalJumping No kidding? Well that was my point... basketball shoes SUCK HARD for jumping.

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