Skyrim is smaller than oblivion

[trypthetryped]

I Cant Wait For The Day When Bethesda Goes Crazy And Lets You Play On This Whole World !!!

[OmnomTheDevourer]

@trypthetryped THat was in Arena and they said they wouldn't do that again

[trypthetryped]

@OmnomTheDevourer bummer :(

[TheWhatify]

@trypthetryped they need to make Elder Scrolls the new MMORPG to play on all continents. that would be epic win! Plus it wouldnt be a WoW clone either so DOUBLE Epic Win!

[omfgitsjarrad]

he said at E3 that the map was gonna be smaller than oblivion's

[sashRKO]

this is sirodil, not oblivion

[kaas298]

@sashRKO cyrodiil and your right

[TheWhatify]

@sashRKO Oblivion is the game, Cyrodiil for a more correct spelling. we all knew whatthe OP was talking about lol....

[DrLynch2009]

actualy... ALL TAMRIEL IS IN SKYRIM...

[valdyrgramr]

My comment is surrounded by virgins.

[MaxSenj]

hmm oblivion is a sort of hell but that is not oblivion that was cyrodiil

[danerman73]

Cyrodiil greater in size than Skyrim in the world of Nirn, that is true. But as far as the actual size of the gaming world according to locations and quests, they seem fairly equal to me. Have not seen a comparison to see which is actually a "bigger" gaming world. I know the biggest Elder Scrolls "gaming world" by far is Daggerfall. Last I saw the only game to ever have a bigger "gaming world" is World of Warcraft and that is an online game with dedicated servers.

[TheBigdaddymaster]

GAGAGAGAY

[ChiefderWahrheit]

you have no idea what oblivion is right? oblivion is a DIMENSION. that what you mean is Cyrodiil -.- you must admit that was stupid

[topjager]

wtf isn't whiterun west of the throat of the world instead of east?

[Maximus317]

Technically speaking, yes, Cyrodiil is larger than Skyrim. However, the developers made the game world of Skyrim the SAME size as the game world of Oblivion. They just populated it more. Plus, all the mountains and winding roads makes the game seem larger than it really is. Not to mention more depth in dungeons.

[gibzit]

I think cyrodil is like a capital country so i dont think that skyrim would be bigger

[TheNesiag]

You even don't know where is TES IV.TES IV Cyrodiil TES V Skyrim

[ikeiser]

I thought markarth was at the border of high rock/hammerfell in skyrim

[HaldirIthillen]

Okay, it looks like someone needs a Cartography/TES History lesson. TES IV was set in Cyrodiil. TES V is in Skyrim.

[jamacinboxify]

skyrim is much bigger and even if it was smaller theres much more places cause cyridil is mainly trees and grass and skyrim has loads of citys

[requywolf]

cyrodil island is smaller. 

[Xaeterza]

No rage :) Your pc don't support Skyrim :D

[GenericAsianBoyLTD]

Technically, since Oblivion's not a region, it's a game, the PROVINCE of Skyrim would be bigger, cause, you know, Oblivion's a CD

[Daleborn]

Cyrodiil ! It's called Cyrodiil ! For god's sake it's written on your map !

[Droidflute]

@Daleborn Yes, but that is still Oblivion.  He's talking about the land used in the ES: IV.

Derp.

[MrMmmmmmm33]

i hate the person who made this

[Rallepoo92]

I will look forward to High Rock *cough*.

[TheGreatRakatan]

None of the games are made to scale, so your point is invalid.

[DragonSimon007]

erm... who cares?...

[soldaatjhu]

i hope, i really do, that someday, in the future there will be a ElderScrolls game with all the continents!

[BewareOfLyon]

@soldaatjhu They already have, it's called ARENA.

It's free on the Elder Scrolls website.

[soldaatjhu]

@BewareOfLyon :p i mean a good one! xD i mean with loads of quests, loads of NPC and of course nice graphics

[ratchetisratshit]

you can go to morrowind and cyrodiil in skyrim

here's proof: /watch?v=Yxg9LLo010g&feature=r­elated

[CrapStickPro]

I never noticed how much Tamriel looks like Eurasia...damn...

[SuckOnaFart]

hammefell loo like italy

[frenchtoaster1000]

Ever notice that Tamriel is Asia 0_0

[lavadud]

its cyrodill not oblivion

[Zuken91]

Oblivion is not Cyrodiil motha fucka!

[OhioStateBuckeyes96]

You mean cyrodill Oblivion is the name of the game because Mehrunes Dagon was trying to capture the world because he believes it's a plane of oblivion that he rightfully owns so he opens the gates of oblivion and let the creatures of his oblivion plane out, Oblivion is large plane much like tamriel though it is not actully endless as most peple believe The only endless plane is "the Void" where the god Sithis lies Sithis is also as endless as the void Wow thatwas the most nerdy thing i ever said

[TigerGuttfan]

uhhh... yeh... well done.... great spot...

[soopie1]

Map projections distort area according to relative position to equator and poles so comparison of placing areas over each other is not valid proof...

[TehMagikBagel]

Thats not true. Bethesda makes all there maps hand made.That means that there's no scale to go by as far as how small/big maps are compared to each other.

[HiGGiiiNz]

@TehMagikBagel Hm, I did see a picture once, cannot be sure of it's accuracy, but it showed how big the map was in game compared to the Tamriel map, and Vvardenfell, Skyrim and Cyrodiil were almost exact, which would mean Cyrodiil is bigger, but then again not sure how right it was.

[MrMaradok]

@TehMagikBagel

You could also add in the games point of view. People from Rome had a different looking map than those from China for example. In the lore, it could be the same thing.

[BicycleOwnage]

Norway is smaller than Canada! Just keeping you updated...

[simpower7]

@BicycleOwnage thanks 

[incredicassio]

Well, the terrain in Cyrodiil is randomly generated, and in Skyrim, it's all hand-drawn by Bethesda. You can't expect them to draw/build everything in Cyrodiil by themselves, can you? At least not in this generation.

[Saddydaddy1]

Cyrodill is bigger

Skyrim is much better

[shadowmare97]

You could at least compare Skyrim to Oblivion... but noooo, you can't even read the damn map which has the province clearly labelled as "Cyrodill"

[Crosby4hyg]

Cyrodill was bigger. Skyrim is better.

[TheAvidGatherer]

Oblivion is the demonic realm of MANY DIFFRENT PLANES, of course Skyrim is smaller!

[xXJmcmaxminecraftXx]

@TheAvidGatherer actually. the only plane of oblivion you go into in oblivion was the deadlands owned by Mehrunes Dagon

[Baikie93]

@xXJmcmaxminecraftXx Shivering Isles, Boethiah's quest, Peryite's quest and so one, all sent you to different planes of oblivion

[Mivdyr]

@xXJmcmaxminecraftXx what about Boethias tournament grounds or when you have to rescue Peryites followers, i know it has the same look but they are not the deadlands, mankar camorans paradise is technically also a plain of oblivion

[aRMEd8uLL]

@xXJmcmaxminecraftXx Don't forget about the Shivering Isles. That is the Plane of Sheagorath.

[TheRedwolf11]

@xXJmcmaxminecraftXx WRONG!You also go into Boethia and Peryites plane of oblivion...And if you bought Shivering Isles(FOR 30 FUCKING DOLLARS!WHAT A RIP OFF!) you also go into Sheogorath!

[Tralfamador5]

@xXJmcmaxminecraftXx also not true.

[Rabenbarde]

@xXJmcmaxminecraftXx actually. the second plane of oblivion you go into in oblivion was Mankar Camoran's Paradise. Yes, it is definitely one. Using instructions left by Mehrunes Dagon, he created his own personal plane of Oblivion. And of course the Shivering Isles in the Addon were another one.

[CursadeOfficial]

How come the map for morrowind looks nothing like it does in the game

[JacobStupify3]

@CursadeOfficial in morrowind u dont play on the entire map, just part of it, atleast thats what ive read

[KingofTheMafia]

@CursadeOfficial Thats because TES 3 took place on the island of vardenfell in the province of morrowind, morrowind is actually quite larger than the game version.

[atrumluxangelus]

Ironically every elder scrolls game has gotten smaller as far as gameplay area. Daggerfall was huge, much larger than Morrowind, then Oblivion was smaller than Morrowind, and it wouldn't surprise me if Skyrim is smaller that Oblivion.

[TheOmgitspeanut]

@atrumluxangelus i hope you know, that the gameplay area of morrowind is smaller than Cyrodill...?

[atrumluxangelus]

@TheOmgitspeanut Really I swore Morrowind was a bigger game. It certainly felt bigger. Then again that might have just been the fact that so many of Morrowind's areas had a different feel to them.

[TheOmgitspeanut]

@atrumluxangelus well, morrowind's gameplay was only limited to the island in the middle, what makes cyrodills gameplay area bigger, sinec you could go anywhere you liked.

and Skyrim is also bigger than cyrodill, than not specificly as it shows on the map, but there are more reachable areas and moreplaces to go, that's what makes Skyrim genneraly bigger....

IF oblivion was made like skyrim, Cyrodill was bigger ofc... just saying... :P

[Theelderscrollsftw94]

@atrumluxangelus you say something reasonable there... I didn't like Skyrim at all... I think they're just make the series worse and worse!:( the AI sucks, The countryside sucks, the expectations BGS gave us was some overrated crap! The storylines are baad because they are so short. They should make long and few quets instead of short... and make them variable and good.

[Clank5678]

@atrumluxangelus Actually Morrowind was smaller than Skyrim and Oblivion

[TheOmgitspeanut]

@Clank5678 you just repeated me..

[russianrl]

I really would love to see a game set in the summerset isles under thalmor rule. Joining the Psijics would be awesome.

[NeDeR96]

Wow, this really gets me nowhere

[tesrules]

Hmmm Cyrodil is bigger than Skyrim, then again high rock is about the size of England, it's also get 900,000 human's and about 1000 dungeons.

[pptpedro]

this guy needs a girlfriend

[PSKBclan]

Cyrodiil in TES4 is about 17 square km, so is Skyrim in TES5. Add Shivering Isles, and TES4 becomes much larger. Vvardenfall in TES3 was only 10 square km.

[LulzAreGud]

no shit

[spartanguynoble6]

well if the game is realistic and more detailed, then you would expect the land of skyrim to be smaller because the creators would spend more of their time trying to make the armor, weapons,monsters and all of that, if you made skyrim bigger it would be a lot more work tand the game probably wouldnt have been realeased until 2014

[LightLink1992]

Thanks captain obvious!

[robertsmile1999]

Skyrim is muuuuuuuch more bigger than Oblivion

But smaller than Cyrodiil

PS. Skyrim has got a lot more stuff underground

[PSKBclan]

@robertsmile1999 Apparently you have no idea how big Oblivion. There are 20 realms of Oblivion. In TES4, only 4 realms were visited. Mehrunes Dagon's deadlands, Sheogorath's Shivering Isles, Mankar Camoran's Gaiar Alata, and Peryite's realm (I don't know the name). Altogether, Oblivion is infinite in size, most of it being part of Hermaeus Mora's Apocrypha.

[Jumpedfungus]

So what if Skyrim is smaller than Cyrodiil, everyone knew that..

[jjsmith93]

Was going to make the point about Cyrodiil/Oblivion but then realised every other nerd also realised -_-

[espaulsen]

Haha, dork. Morrowind, Cyrodiil and Skyrim are not made 1:1 after the map.. Daggerfall is. Tamriel is _huge_, but u can't make games that big. Or, u could, but it would be repetitive.

[The24RaidenAssassin]

try walk from bruma to leyawiin and then from solitude too falkreach, skyrim takes more time

[Bashzog]

Cute. Next, line it up against Hammerfell and High Rock. Then, compare how long it takes to cross the TES II and the TES V game worlds.

Your point is stupid. 

[Otholar]

Nerd fact: Skyrim is not bigger than Oblivion. Oblivion is a multi-dimensional realm seperate from the world of Nirn and the continent of Tamriel. The Planes of Oblivion have no beginning or end and are in fact infinite.

[zieba]

You mean Skyrim is smaller than Cyrodiil, right? Oblivion is endless.

[aswmmc]

dont you mean cyradiil? oblivion is another dimension...

[joelaquacherry]

who cares, really man

[godfighter16]

for one skyrim is a contry in tamriel and OBLIVION IS WHERE THE DEADRA LIVE IN ANOTHER DIMENSION!

[mrclaymore30]

In game, it's the same...

[Rubbleification]

Cyrodiil....

[Rubbleification]

@Rubbleification Not Oblivian..

[Jables185]

......yes.

[numba1spartan]

238 people disagree with geometry. (Rhyming points!)

[KoriLuvsNuggets]

Just saying but of course Cyrodiil is larger! It's the capital of the empire. Skyrim is a baby compared to it!

[kapinder123]

anyone else notice that morrowind was even bigger

[Compootor]

@kapinder123 Well, Technically, Morrowind only took place on Vvardenfell, which is the island in the middle of Morrowind, and if you compare Vvardenfell to the size of Cyrodiil or Skyrim, you'll find that it is considerably smaller than both. If you meant all of Morrowind, you'll find that Cyrodiil and Morrowind are very similar when it comes to surface area.

[thecadaver33]

Oblivion is an endless underworldly realm of infinite darkness, of course it's bigger than Skyrim; I'm quite sure you meant Cyrodiil.

Also, no shit, sherlock. :)

[kingsmill77]

Aye, i agree with Quick Target. In cyrodil you don't have to climb bloody mountains all the time

[sparenade]

Skyrim is bigger because the beneath Skyrim it's just caves, meaning the underground of Skyrim is all hollow. I mean, you'd think the land would just sink and ruin everything since there's nothing supporting it...

[QuickTarget]

First off the lands not called oblivion its called Cyrodil and it looks small on the map but actually skyrim is the same surface area as cyrodil has but except compacted.

[CanOfMapleSyrup]

I totally couldnt see that without you cutting it out in digital cardboard

[GingerKibble]

Well im sure you mean Cyrodiil not Oblivion.

[all41ger]

You know...

As skyrim has big mountains the actual 3d map ist as big as cyrodiil

[DiomedesStrosMkai]

@all41ger Well since you're getting technical, it's worth noting that the high amount of terrain altitude variation in Skyrim increases its actual surface area, which means it has more square miles than a 2D map would show.

[all41ger]

@DiomedesStrosMkai

For sure but as you flaten the area it woud be much bigger.

An on top of that, its a much longer way to walk over a mountain than over flat land.

(and Bethesda said that)

[DiomedesStrosMkai]

@all41ger That's exactly what I'm saying, that the 2D map doesn't properly reflect the actual distance from one side to the other

[all41ger]

@DiomedesStrosMkai

Well, thats what I tried to say, too but my english is poor :(

[xTwinBladEx]

bethesda said that the map is not actually that accurate

[mayorbee11]

yer but they've packed more into skyrim like i would walk for about 1 hr while playing oblivion and only run into a few wolfs in skyrim in that time id run into dragons, trolls, bandits, thalmor, bears ect

[MrStratoholic]

On that map it is. but in game Skyrim and in game Cyrodiil are about the same size. Something like 25 sq miles. The Elder Scrolls II Dagerfall had a landmass the size of the real world United Kingdom, and 700,000 NPC's even though it's supposed to be tiny compared to Cyrodiil or Skyrim.

[sithunter2]

@MrStratoholic daggerfall was 7 times hte size of the uk just sayin

[123valivali]

oblivion means hell. its called cyrodiil

[InzaneMode]

You know that oblivion isn't actually the land where the GAME oblivion took place, right? At least you weren't in oblivion all the time ^^

[ebanker1]

now how do you know thats the exact comapisom?

[JetLife0111]

Technically, you are saying Skyrim is smaller than Cyrodiil.

[Cchrisp1994]

now look at the size of vardenfell compared to cyrodil

[dawgalova]

*reads title*

......

......

*facepalm*

[qwertyghk]

Good observation

[oblivionfreaksssssad]

just play TES2, Daggerfall. THAT is one motherfucker of a big big Map.

[WhiteTiger225]

@oblivionfreaksssssad Its mostly randomly generated actually. So its more like you have to walk through a shifting void for an amount of time before you get from point A to B, and there was only like, 3 different buildings in the entire game. This coming from a fan of it.

[oblivionfreaksssssad]

@WhiteTiger225 u got me ;) i love all TES Games

[Hedhnter]

And Vvardenfell is smaller than Cyrodiil.... but TES III Morrowind still had a larger in game world than Oblivion did. Actual size doesn't matter since Skyrim has more content packed into that area...

[GrizzLBD]

You also have to take into account that Cyrodiil has places that may not have been seen. Morrowind took place on a small island, but the terrain generated for it made it one of the largest games ever

[KSIMuskratLuv]

Well, the planes of Oblivion are infinite. You're wrong.

[jameseichelisme]

just brilliant!

[EggsAndBacon44]

thanks man really informative, I especially loved it where you rotated it to the same position twice just to make it extra clear.

[TheRatedMformature]

dumbass its cyrodill not fucking oblivion thats where daedra reside

[xSceneRock12x]

You no say?!

[TheWassabassa]

well no shit

[defteyy]

they need to have game were they have all of them together like skyrim hamerfell all that itt would be big

[Devilasaur2]

that's stupid

[stupefy777]

Too bad that's not oblivion.

[Dinomino21]

Skyrim may be smaller than Cyrodiil however they made the map and scaled it so it would be a similar size in-game

[abelhaumado]

que estupidez,y seguro que si lo hubiesen sacado mas pequeño siendo un juego de nueva generacion estarias aqui quejandote de ello,pringao ¬¬

[pinchafinch]

Skyrim has infinite hours of gameplay. Cyrodill...does not.

[PedroPaulo744]

Skyrim is smaller than Oblivion... YOU DON'T SAY!

[JutzBuddy]

Next game should be all of Tamriel

[GlitchMaster137]

@JutzBuddy The first game was all of Tamriel.

[JutzBuddy]

@GlitchMaster137 Wow, I didn't know that. My bad.

[mrtrololorific]

not a single life was given that day

[Game117Fanatic]

Cryodill is larger than Skyrim... Oblivion is larger than Tamriel

[longhelltime]

@Game117Fanatic Umm....Tamriel is the whole continent, and oblivion is just the game's name ,or the diffferent dimension.

[Game117Fanatic]

@longhelltime Exactly my point... Oblivion is an infinite plain, or however they describe it...

[GameCreatorJJ]

oblivion is actually infinite , never ending, but oblvion is cyrodill now is it

[creapah]

i wonder whats next? Hammerfell?

[LunarEclipseTonite]

The Skyrim map is spreaded out so it feels like the size of both Morrowind and Oblivion. Plus it's Cyrodiil.

[Watchurstep]

United States is bigger than Mexico but slightly smaller than Canada which is a bit bigger than Tamriel. however, its not as big as Hyrule.

[132gunloaded]

@Watchurstep you just got me confused

[Predator1997m]

@Watchurstep Russia is still biggest 

[TheThordir]

@Watchurstep

In terms of size, Tamriel is 12 million square miles (Lore, not in game).

[thepeacefulpokemon]

The land was called Cyrodil not Oblivion -_-

[TheFixXxerNL]

The land of skyrim is smaller then cyrodil yes, But, They made skyrim just as big as cyrodill if you know what i mean.

[mpme1509]

Was that spore music?

[TheMcSAMtek]

skyrim is a bit more bigger cos thay said wen thay were making skyrim tht skyrim would be bigger and better and it it bigger and better so put tht up ya shitty bum hole

[MultiChipper]

Note how this might not be accurate to the scale of the game world.

[Doomsdave96]

Am I the only one looking forward to Hammerfell, or Black Marsh?

[TheSpedy21]

CYRODIIL not oblivion you moron

[salehhaddad]

Actual size on the map means nothing. Bethesda scaled up the province to be as big as Cyrodiil. Actually I feel Skyrim playspace is larger than Oblivion's and even more interesting.

[CodeSworn]

@salehhaddad Not only that, but the entire world outside of skyrim is present in a rudimentary state. For instance, disable the borders and head east from riften and you'll come across red mountain.

[marcuszero105]

its cyrodiil

[Shooter2151]

It's called being Compact

[JacobTheGreat2]

They probably mad Skyrim smaller so they could fit all of the detail and random things they put in it.

[MegaLink117]

where is oblivian on the map anyway?

[VerlindeTV]

Wtf hammerfell has italy in it???

[klaridon]

I think he means smaller then cyrodiil..

[Diablo3898]

@klaridon Oblibion was based in Cyrodil, he meant game titles, game 4 Oblivion, game 5 Skyrim

[klaridon]

@Diablo3898 Yes, but that insinuates that the game is smaller, meaning less content, but he's actually comparing maps, not games.