Before the Second Sino-Japanese War started, western countries had many colonies in the world, and westerners had operated an obscurant policy in the colonies. The Japanese only had been had equal treatment from westerners. Therefore, Japan proposed The Racial Equality in Paris Peace Conference in 1919. However, the U.S and British took strong opposition in the conference, so the proposal did not get the approval. We should know this fact.
According to the testimonies in The International Military Tribunal for the Far East (IMTFE), Chinese government could not prove the murder of 340,000. Therefore, the Chinese government was absorbed in collecting proofs even during the IMTFE. In other words, the Chinese government had already fixed the number of casualties into more than 300,000 before they began to collect the evidence.
Japan only wanted equalities among Western powers but not among Asian countries. Japan wanted to be the leader nation in East Asia, to be a colonizer nation.
Before the Second Sino-Japanese War started, western countries had many colonies in the world, and westerners had operated an obscurant policy in the colonies. The Japanese only had been had equal treatment from westerners. Therefore, Japan proposed The Racial Equality in Paris Peace Conference in 1919. However, the U.S and British took strong opposition in the conference, so the proposal did not get the approval. We should know this fact.
A big earthquake hit Japan in March 2011. 5700 of safety boxes were swept away. Total 24 hundred million yen were missed. However, 96% of safety boxes and money were backed to each owner by police officers. On the other hand, when Sichuan earthquake hit China in 2008, many lootings happened. Some Chinese and Korean want to appeal Japan is low moral country. Exactly the reverse is true. What a wonderful country Japan!
Thank God that the Japanese [Nazi of the Orient] were being paid back with 2 atomic bombs, earthquakes, tsunamis, nuclear power plant meltdowns. It is so amazing that they still have the ambition today that they want to grab the islands from China and Russia.
(Part1)the Japanese troops had the systematic mopping-up operation and found many Chinese soldiers hiding disguised as citizens. And some of them were put to death. In the operation, the Japanese troops had no intention of killing non-combatants. But arresting the hiding soldiers disguised as non-combatants created a great deal of misunderstanding among the westerners, giving the impression the Japanese troops had systematically committed the murder of civilians.
Before the entry of the Japanese, Chinese soldiers in their mad rush to discard their military uniforms and put on civilian clothes. In a number of incidents, Chinese soldiers killed their people to obtain their clothing. During the last few days, some violations of people and property were undoubtedly committed by them. James Espy, the vice American Council at Nanking, reported to the American Embassy
@tkmagunam Your English is pretty distorted so I don't really get the full picture but let me tell you something, my own grandmother was a witness to the Nanjing Massacre. What she has been through still haunts her today. Maybe there wasn't as many "rapings" or "killings" as suggested by the Chinese Communist Government but trust me, raping and killing did occur in Nanjing. In fact, it occurred during the Hong Kong Occupation as well. There are tons of reliable witnesses who are not Chinese too
@tkmagunam Don't get me wrong, I love Japan. I love their food, anime and style :) I even go there during holidays. I just think it is time for the Japanese government to acknowledge that women were raped and children were killed during these occupations. The fact that there are reliable witnesses (eg. missionaries, doctors and nurses who were not Chinese) proves it. The fact that this incident still haunts my grandmother is one too.
@mmeeee3 ■(Part1)There was the International Committee for Nanking Safety Zone. This committee consisted of 22 Westerners. This committee wrote reports regarding the security situation of Nanking city 61 times from Dec.13, 1937 to Feb.9, 1938 and sent the same reports to Japanese Embassy, Embassy of the United States, British Embassy and Germany Embassy. According to these 61 reports, they reported murder: 41, mayhem: 44, rape: 361, taking: 390, plunder and others: 170 for 2 months.
@mmeeee3 (Part2)However, all of these reports were “hearsay”. In other words, nobody of this committee witnessed them actually. The International Military Tribunal for the Far East (Tokyo Trial: 1946-1948) summoned 4 members of this committee included Magee, Ashmore Fitch, Bates and Wilson. They testified they did not witness any murder and heard from someone. This trial proved nobody witnessed murders actually and they wrote reports on the basis of”Hearsay”.
@undertakerRach I am actually a major in history at the University of Toronto, the sources I gathered regarding the Nanjing Massacre shows a completely different story. Can I also point out that just because 4 individuals did not witness any rapes or murders did not mean it didn't happen. How can 4 westerners possibly be there a the scene, obviously Japanese soldiers would know better. The fact that thousands of other commoners reported it shows consistency.
@mmeeee3 Also the 4 individuals could have never witnessed it because they were in the Safety Zone the whole time while commoners were brutally raped and murdered. I did not want to point this out but my own grandmother was a victim of rape. I had to force her to tell me and she did it with tears running down her eyes. Nevertheless, I actually have a life so I am not going to argue with you.
Respond to this video... Also I would like to apologize for what other Chinese Nationalists have sent you regarding the Japanese Earthquake. I feel ashamed of what they said and those who were affected by the Tsunami and the earthquake in Japan will be in my prayers. What the last generation did in both our countries should not be blamed on the new generation, period.
(Part2)This attitude, having the 'Chinese Plain-clothes soldiers' pretend to be non-combatants would be considered to come under Article 23 in 'Regulation respecting the laws and customs of war on land' (the 4th Hague Convention) concluded in 1907 that specifies an 'act of disloyalty' and it infringed on the international humanitarian law. Therefore, it was legal activity that the Japanese Army conducted the mopping-up operation to arrest and to intern the Chinese Plain-clothes soldiers.
@undertakerRach Oh and one more thing, although they didn't witness the actual rape and killings of individuals, they treated them. So rapes and killings did happen. Also, even today, it is highly unlikely for someone to witness a raping unless they are the victims themselves don't you think?
@mmeeee3 (Part1)Minnie Vautrin, a professor at the college, wrote 100 girls were raped by Japanese soldiers in her diary on Dec 16, 1937. Also, John Rabe, the leader of the Nanking Safety Zone, wrote in 17th that 1,000 women and girls are said to have been raped last night. James McCallum, a medical doctor in Nanking, wrote about rape crimes in his diary in 19th. However, these cases of rape were what these Westerners heard about from Chinese people.
@mmeeee3 (Part2)About two weeks later, as mentioned in the New York Times on January 4, 1938, Vautrin and other Ginling College professors got to know that the Chinese officers harbored by them had repeatedly raped in the Nanking Safety Zone and then blamed Japanese soldiers for their attacks. The New York Times reported, “(the) American professors…were seriously embarrassed to discover (it).” So would Rabe and McCallum have been.
@ (Part3)In February, as the Osaka Asahi Shinbun reported, the Japanese military arrested eleven hiding Chinese soldiers who had committed numerous atrocities in Nanking, speaking Japanese and wearing counterfeit of Japanese translator's armband to pose as Japanese. After they were caught, conspicuous cases of rape, looting and other atrocities did not take place. The Chinese have accused Japan about the rape crimes during the war. However, these crimes were definitely caused by the Chinese.
How can Japanese admit the wrong history such as the Nanking Massacre? Analyzing Photographic “Evidence” of the Nanking Massacre by historians and other recent scientific research reveal that there are no photographs attesting to a massacre in Nanking. You know, at least 143 pictures are distorted by Chinese government.
The Japanese were obsessed with the Shoah and what the Nazi did but at least, we saw them punished, we heard excuses and were sure Germany will never ever do such a thing again.
But Japan was just there, saying nothing ever happened and praying for these butchers' souls.
According to the report by the United Nation's Office on Drugs and Crime, the crime rate of rape in China is 2.84 to 100,000. South Korea is 12.98, Japan is 1.79. the crime rate of Robbery in China is 24.59. South Korea is 9.56. Japan is 4.07. According to the Nationalmaster statistics in the U.S said total crimes rate of China is 119 to 100,000, Japan is 54 to 100,000. The Japanese committed many crimes in Nanking city?
@undertakerRach Are you trying to say that you use today's statistics to prove that things couldn't have happened in the past? Interesting. The past years, more than 40,000 people a year were killed in the USA in car accidents. Using your logic, which one is true? Before the white men came to America, (1) the native americans already had cars (2) more than 40,000 of them died in traffic accidents. The answer to your question: article 11, remember?
@Loempieja (Part1)According to Summary report on the Investigation of Japanese war crimes committed in Nanking, prepared by the Procurator of the District Court in Nanking, to prepare for the IMTFE, the KMT set up the Nanking Investigation Committee for Antagonists Crime on November 7, 1945, and appealed to the Chinese public to report Japanese Army's crimes.
@Loempieja (Part2)It was reported, however, that few responded to the crimes committed by Japanese Army and some refused to testify or to deny the massacre occurred when they were asked for details. Then, the KMT reluctantly submitted the tentative report to the IMTFE on January 20, 1946. Except for one testimony made by a man named Lu Su, no other evidence of massacre by the Japanese Army was available, besides burial records.
Chinese victims couldn’t receive any medical treatment for they had no money. The Chinese government said, “You can get free medical treatment in hospitals if you said Japanese injured you.” That’s why; poor Chinese claimed “we were hurt by Japanese.” That’s why there are many verbal declarations in China. On the other hand, the Chinese government can’t hand in any conclusive evidence to the academic research investigation now.
@undertakerRach I think it's high time you do a little bit of self-reflection. Like: do I really believe what I'm writing down here? Do I really think no Japanese soldier committed a crime, although there's a lot of evidence out there, including admittances by those who did it? Is your mind as sick as that of these murderers? Where is your self-respect that you don't care that your name is connected to this nonsence?
@Loempieja (Part1)According to the ejcjs articles, the majority of academic research on the Nanjing Incident has been opened, some the Japanese, the Chinese and people who are speaking English have been attended the conference. Of the three language groups, Japanese has produced the most sophisticated research, with the debate in English lagging decades behind.
@Loempieja (Part2) The Chinese language materials are the collections of various primary sources, including the recollections of many of the Chinese military personnel.
@Loempieja (Part3)However, these Chinese collections show no evidence of any vigorous critical attempt to distinguish between valid primary materials and other materials: photographs, for instance, which are known to be fabricated, or from different areas and different times, continue to be used to "prove" Japanese guilt in the winter of 1937-38 at Nanjing.
Do you have conclusive evidence about the Nanking Massacre even though Chinese governmnet does not have any of one?
@undertakerRach I already know the routine; witnesses lie, Japanese soldiers admitting they joined the killing - well, they can't be liairs, because Japanese people don't lie - are not telling the truth, pictures are fabricaed - unless they can be used that Japanese soldiers were innocent - so there is no evidence. Like I said before, there's no evidence about the nucleair bombs either. You know, I even think the whole World War Two is made up by the Communists!
@Loempieja (Part1)Chinese government created many Japanese testimonies after the WW2 finished intentionally. After WW2, many Japanese soldiers who were dispatched China returned to Japan temporarily. However, they were caught by Chinese government as criminals. Many Japanese were in Chinese jails after finished the WW2, and they were tortured by them. The Japanese were forced to write what they did in China. In short, they had to write false diary stories which were directed by the Chinese.
@Loempieja (Part2)Definitely, the Chinese government needed Japanese evidence about committing many massacres in China. After the Japanese wrote in the diary which shows Japanese raped many Chinese women and killed many civilians, they could be free and go back to Japan. From the perspective of psychology, if people are forced to write false stories for long time, the false stories could be true memories.
@Loempieja (Part3)The Chukiren is a group which composed Japanese soldiers that came back from China has told these stories. A confession obtained by asking leading questions or torture is not recognized by the courts. These days, the Chinese government has still used these false stories for diplomatic cards between Japan and China. However, the Japanese were smart because they wrote another troop name which never has stayed in China.
@undertakerRach I could repeat my previous comment 1:1. There's power in repetition, as all brainwashers know, so I won't do it. Did you do a little bit of self-reflection already? Not all proof has been provided by the Chinese! At least one denier on You Tube made the 'mistake' to admit to the Japanese involvement by arguing about the number of victims. He at least shows some mental progress. Or do you see your stubborness as a proof of strenth? I think it's a sign of stupidity.
@Loempieja These Japanese were brainwashed by former Chinese government.
In fact, most Chinese students finish high school convinced that their country has fought wars only in self-defense, never aggressively or in conquest, despite the People's Liberation Army's invasion of Tibet in 1950 and the ill-fated war with Vietnam in 1979, to take two examples. Similarly, many believe that Japan was defeated largely as a result of Chinese resistance, not by the United States.
@undertakerRach Not only these Japanese were brainwashed. You'll be amazed to hear that a lot of people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki actually believe an atomic bomb was thrown on their city. They try to prove this by using all the means that are also used to prove Japanese war crimes: manipulated pictures and videos, brainwashed victim accounts and accounts by people who admitted throwing these bombs. At least, YOU must agree with that because that's how you can deny war crimes, too.
@Loempieja How Japanese government restricted people access to more internet sites? Have you heard Japanese government has blocked any news articles which it does not want people know the facts? On the other hand Chinese people can’t access any Egypt news which is showing protest against Egypt government. Can you search the word 茉莉花革命in net? Chinese government restricted the word of 茉莉花革命. This means Chinese government has mind controlled people.
@undertakerRach With you, I think the Japanese people already had full access to the internet in the first decades after World War Two, without any restriction by the Japanese government. And of course no other information was blocked. That's why the Japanese did not learn anything about WW II for decades. But explain how the fact the Chinese have no access to the news about Egypt proves that no war crimes were committed by Japanese in WW II.
@Loempieja According the NYT, a teacher said a blistering pace, during a lecture on China's relations with the world from 1929 to 1939 in one of this country's, Japan decided to pursue its own longtime desire for a continental empire, and attacked China. I heard teachers have used 1937 pictures which showed the fake of Nanking Massacre.
That’s why what Chinese people in youtube said were so one-sided.
@Loempieja How many people were living in the Nanking city in Aug 1937?
KMT troops runaway to Nanking city from Shanghai in Aug 1937, why?
Before Japanese attacked the Nanking city, the commander of the Japanese troops received a letter from a foreigner who has lived in Nanking. Who was that?
After Japanese troops enterd in the catsle of Nanking, what did they see?
@undertakerRach Nice you are trying to turn this into a quiz. The next thing you want to know is the names and the addresses of the people that were killed. But what's the relevance of q1? The massacre occurred later. You ask q2 because you want to hear the Japs defeated his forces. Q3, Alexander the Great, who asked him to bring along some Japanese stamps. Most people do not know that. Q4: Japanese correspondent Suzuki Jiro, who later wrote about the mass killings by Jap soldiers.
@Loempieja How many people were living in the Nanking city in Aug 1937?
KMT troops runaway to Nanking city from Shanghai in Aug 1937, why?
Before Japanese attacked the Nanking city, the commander of the Japanese troops received a letter from a foreigner who has lived in Nanking. Who was that?
After Japanese troop’s entered in the castle of Nanking, what did they see?
@LoempiejaHow many people were living in the Nanking city in Aug 1937?
KMT troops runaway to Nanking city from Shanghai in Aug 1937, why?
Before Japanese attacked the Nanking city, the commander of the Japanese troops received a letter from a foreigner who has lived in Nanking. Who was that?
After Japanese troop’s entered in the castle of Nanking, what did they see?
@undertakerRach 1. I'm glad we established that unit 731 is not a fake.
2. My answers you'll find below. I understand you want to show that you are the authority here. So prove it:
3. Where are the answers to my questions? You'll consider the questions irrelevant but your 'truth' on Nanking is based on the assumption that the Japanese treated their prisoners so well. So the answers to my questions are pretty inconvenient.
4. Two are related to Nanking, so let me answer them for you:
How many people were living in the Nanking city in Aug 1937?
KMT troops runaway to Nanking city from Shanghai in Aug 1937, why?
Before Japanese attacked the Nanking city, the commander of the Japanese troops received a letter from a foreigner who has lived in Nanking. Who was that?
After Japanese troop’s entered in the castle of Nanking, what did they see?
@undertakerRach .... of the International Military Tribunal for the Far East and of other Allied War Crimes Courts both within and outside Japan. Signed by Japan. So it's pretty easy. Matsui was found guilty of the Nanking Massacre and sentenced to death as a war criminal. By signing the treaty Japan accepts this judgment. You can lie all you want and play the expert but I don't care. Japan accepts the judgment that Japan was responsible for the Nanking Massacre.
@undertakerRach Mukai and Noda were engaged in a contest who could kill most Chinese by sword. Not in combat but most after their capture. They were sentenced to death and executed. Iwane Matsui was convicted of war crimes and sentenced to death by hanging by the International Military Tribunal for the Far East for responsibility over the Nanking Massacre. In 1951 Japan signed the treaty of San Francisco. Are you familiar with article 11? It states that Japan accepts the judgment of the
@Loempieja (Part1)A Chinese counselor for the defense clarified that ASAMI's article which was written about the 'Murder Race' story was proved to be nothing but a fiction in the Nanking Court-martial as follows:
1 The certificate sent on December 10, 1947, from ASAMI clarified that 'the article was by no means what he had witnessed'.
2 The units to which the accused MUKAI and NODA belonged had never been nor had a combat near at Purple Mountain (where the article covered). In other words, NODA had never been Purple Mountain.
@Loempieja (Part3)The only evidence provided was a Japanese newspaper. However, judicial precedents at the Chinese Supreme Court had declared that newspapers were not to be regarded as proof'. Chinese government has created a lot of Nanking Massacre evidence.
(Part1)The population of Nanking just before the Japanese occupation was about 200,000. About a week before the Japanese attack on Nanking, on November 28, 1937, the head of the Police Department of Nanking, Mr. Wan, announced at a press conference for foreigners, "About 200,000 people still live here in Nanking."
In manpower, China is larger than Japan & USA combined. So do not think that the Americans whose bodies are now full of ants can help you much, if you created troubles with the Chinese in this modern time. UndertakerRach, wake up & don't dream anymore!
@Yamashitaist Timperley was paid by the Ministry of Information in China for writing the book "What War Means". The book was written about the Japanese atrocity. Zeng Xubai, then chief of the international propaganda division, said in his autobiography (vol. I, p. 201) that the central propaganda bureau funded the publication of Timperly’s What War Means and Lewis S. C. Smythe’s War Damages in the Nanking Area. Both of these books must have Chinese propaganda books.
@undertakerRach You better ask the Japanese soldiers who were there. Or you could ask the survivors. The problem here is that you think you own the truth. You say there were only 200.000 inhabitants. (Or did you mean: survivors?) So we have to accept that as the truth. Do you have more 'truth' for us, like your emperor was a peace loving man, who sent away an army of gardeners to make the world a prettier place?
@Loempieja ■(Part1/4)Chinese government has claimed Japanese soldiers killed 300,000 Chinese civilians while the Japanese were staying in Nanking city in China. After the Japanese occupation, did the population of Nanking decrease by more than 300,000? Let’s look at many historical records. On Dec 8,1937， Tang Sheng-zhi, who was Chinese commander, warned that all the noncombatants should assemble in the Safety Zone, and the citizens rushed into the Safety Zone for the safety.
@Loempieja (Part2/4)As the result, there were no people within the castle except in the Safety Zone. John Rabe, the Safety Zone Committee (TSZC) member, wrote in his diary in Dec 10, when the Nanking battle began, the Nanking population was 200,000. TSZC described in the Document No.9 dated in Dec 17, "On the 13th when the Japanese entered the city, we had nearly all the civilian population in the Safety Zone, so the number 200,000 is no doubt.
@Loempieja (Part3/4) For TSZC, it was absolutely necessary to know the accurate number of people in order to distribute food to those refugees. After the Japanese victory and occupation took place, TSZC in its document dated on December 17, and in subsequent documents, consistently recognized this number. Afterwards how did the population of Nanking change? TSZC documents read that in January 1938 the population was 250,000.
@Loempieja (Part4/4)Lewis S. C. Smythe, professor of Nanking University investigated the population with the help of many Chinese staffs on February 1938. He wrote a report which shows the population of Nanking was 250,000 or 270,000 as of the end of March 1938. The Nanking City Administrative Office of the Nanking Restoration Government, which was established on March 28, 1938, registered 277,000 inhabitants. Japanese soldiers killed 300,000 Chinese people in Nanking city?
@Loempieja Records of the International Committee’s activities were published in 1939 as Documents of the Nanking Safety Zone by a British company in Shanghai, under the auspices of the Nationalist Government’s Council of International Affairs. According to those records, the population of Nanking prior to its occupation by the Japanese was 200,000. By the end of January, it had increased to 250,000. How can China claim 300,000 Chinese were killed by Japanese?
@Loempieja, you need to understand the evil mentality of the Japs, especially "UndertakerRach" who is a Jap agent stationed here in YouTube long ago, to give all the make-up stories & other baseless statements in order to cover up Japs' cruelty & brutality in their atrocities to the innocent civilians in Asia they had occupied. Japs are very much more cruel & evil than the NAZI Germans who did not gorge the babies' eyes out & left them to die in pain, but the Japs did that with joy.
@Sinexposer It is not that hard to understand the evil mentality of the undertaker. It has to do with the limitations of his brain capacity, I think. The only thing he does is 'proving' that Japanese soldiers could not have committed war crimes because of irrelevant other crimes and apparent good deeds by the Japanese. Like "Nazi Germans are innocent because in New York, in 1933, a Jew forgot to a 10% discount." To think you can convince anyone with arguments like that.....
UndertakerRach, stop all your nonsense here. Your inhumane & baseless statements will aggravate more hatred of our Japanese by the Chinese. The modern Chinese today are very different from those in 1937 when Japanese can bully & harm them. China now is the 2nd largest economy in the World, replaced Japan. Their people are more educated & wealthy. Their military has well trained fighters with better technological equipment & weapons. Why more foreign tourists & students go to China if it is bad?
(Part2)Even now, the people in Tibet are still abused, and their cultures are being destroyed. The very Communist China declared that the problem of Tibet is a problem relating to domestic affairs and refused the interference of the foreign nations. On the other hand, the CCP is loudly denouncing the Nanking Massacre which had been insisted on its happening more than sixty years ago, but this is not even clearly defined.
@undertakerRach ! As what you have said here that China has more crimes and with all the bad things you would like to say. How's that today many foreigners go there as tourists & investors go there to expand their business. Many Chinese going abroad to study too. Many Chinese investments growing in other countries as well. Wake up you Jap! Nobody will go to China if it is BAD. Achievements & progress will show the TRUTH. Today I see very few Jap tourists around. Are they too poor to travel??
@Sinexposer You believe Japanese people are the most mercilessness people because Chinese governmnet has taught so to schoolkids. This is the Anti-Japan policy in Chinese communist government. They have created much evidence which show Japanese atorocity.
However, most pictures and videos show Chinese pupblic executions. They put captions which say Japanese soldiers committed many crimes to the pictures and they spread out these to the wolrd.
(Part1) In fact, it estimated that a far larger number of 65,000,000 people had been victimized in China, is still existing under the dictatorial political system, and still persecuting minorities and committing human right violations ceaselessly. Especially in Tibet, more than 1,200,000 people, corresponding to roughly 20% of the total population, were massacred since being unfairly annexed to Communist China in 1955.
@undertakerRach ! Today it's the time China (the great victim of Japan in the Past) will rise like an awakening dragon of the EAST to protect Asia from the harassment by Japan again. Japs can only bully the weak & poor Asians. Can your Japs challenge the Chinese today?? Go & start an attack on China with your invincible Imperial Jap Army like in 1937 & see what will happen to your Japs. Don’t be cowards to call your Big Brother for help, as his body is already full of ANTS.
@Sinexposer (Part1)I don't think so. In fact, Chinese soldiers killed many Chinese civilians during the war. Chinese soldiers destroyed people’s houses and their properties in order to wipe out any possible supplies or shelter that could be utilized by the over-extended enemy troops. This strategy is called "The Clean Field Strategy" by China. Definitely, China has cruel war strategies in their history.
@Sinexposer (Part2)Tell the truth, Chinese soldiers killed 30,000 their own people in cold blood under the Clean Field Strategy in Changsha in 1938. In fact, Japanese didn’t attack the Changsha Chinese city. Furthermore, the 1938 Yellow River flood was a very famous Chinese military mission. As a result, the course of the Yellow River was diverted southwards for nine years afterward, inundating 54,000 km² of local provinces. All in all, the flood waters took an estimated 500,000 lives.
@undertakerRach ! I have to repeat the words again & again, because you Japs are the very hardheaded, arrogant & egoistic creatures on earth. They still think that they are the super-beings, out to bully the Asians again. So they are reluctant to admit their evil crimes, despite lots of evidence shown. As you Japs here said that the photos are fabricated and fake, why NOT Japan bring this matter to the International Court of Justice or complain it to the UN? Stop giving all these nonsense here.
@Medieviless, "undertakerRach" is not only a Jap, but an extremist and egoistic Jap AGENT posted here for a long time, trying to ward off any criticism on the crimes committed by the brutal & cruel Japs. "undertakerRach" could be a jobless Jap who could not find any better job, so he took up this employment. You can see him everywhere in YouTube, giving his own baseless statements.
However, these Chinese collections show no evidence of any vigorous critical attempt to distinguish between valid primary materials and other materials: photographs, for instance, which are known to be fabricated, or from different areas and different times, continue to be used to "prove" Japanese guilt in the winter of 1937-38 at Nanjing.
@ruebque I'm amazed at your gormless mind. Implying that the casualties at Pearl Harbour were higher than Nanjing is outrageous. At least the Japanese didn't mutilate, rape, torture the US soldiers? Japanese soldiers killed American soldiers - fair and square! The Americans, however - cowardly used to attack from 1000s of miles away- not caring if civilians lives would be lost. US fought the most cowardly war in WW2I - worse than the Nazis in fact. Period!
@ruebque What the..? Are you insane? The states never needed to forgive Japan for the bloody Pearl Harbour attack! They took a brutal vengeance for instead remember? Hiroshima? How about Nagasaki? It's the Japanese that should be forgiving the States - NOT the other way around. Pearl Harbour was a military attack. Nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were history's worst war crime ever!!
Now you tell me who really was the one who needed to pull the ''red flag'' out of their asses?
@undertakerRach Are you serious? Are you denying that many women and infants that supposedly were raped, got either a cane, bayonets, bamboo sticks or even bottles thrusted into their vaginas? Some had their breasts sliced up, and pregnant women were a target as to their ''wipe out the Chinese race'' strategy. Is all this really propaganda? What does it matter if 300 000 or 1 million or 20 civilians died this way - it's barbaric and completely dishonoring.
@Medieviless You believe what Chinese government said. However, the history which was taught by Chinese government is completely wrong. Many Chinese have learned that Japan was defeated largely as a result of Chinese resistance, not by the United States. About the Nanking Massacre, claiming Chinese has no historical basis. Since 2000 of the year, computer technology has revealed 143 pictures were edited, created or trimmed and changed the explanation by Chinese government.
@undertakerRach As for the evidence part... this was in 1937 - not every Japanese or Chinese walked around with a camera - so the evidence are never conclusive in wars like these. Though you can't deny that the Japanese army really went straight out of line here. History should remain history - but humans denying this ever happened is even more barbaric!
@Medieviless The Japanese want to correct wrong rumors which Chinese spread out to the world. Chinese people who are mind controlled by anti-Japanese policy after the Tiananmen Massacre in 1989, they started it, they have announced wrong myths about Japanese acts during the Sino-Japanese War ceaselessly.
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@undertakerRach I never said that I believe in any Governments story. I’m well aware of what a Government, democratic or not, can do in order to get what they want. I think both the Japanese and Chinese leaders have played dirty tricks to their own gain – not at least thinking of the real victims. However, my point in all of this is that these things really did happen that year. Numbers may have been played around with, but the genocidal raid was effectuated in December 1937.
@undertakerRach I’ve seen you write quite a lot about John Rabe telling two different stories. You may be correct here to some extent. I believe to gain respect or being highly ranked in status by Hitler – he may have lied somewhat about the casualties. But the letters he sent to Tokyo are by far from lies. What the hell would he gain there? There are stories told by Japanese veterans who confirmed the rape, the murders and the mutilations, not only in Nanjing, but in Philippines as well.
@undertakerRach I’ve read Mr. Higashinakano Shudo’s book on fiction and facts in the invasion and he makes some pretty notifying points there, but the contemporaneous records he is referring to is indecisive due to one thing – they are all referred to high linked foreigners working for US, British and German Governments. Most of them trying to protect Japan – the leading key role goes to the leaders of the States, the British and the Australians who had their own agenda at play.
@undertakerRach Hypocrisy – fighting against Japan in front of the audience, but behind the scenes they needed Japans Emperor not to be trialed as that would result to his removal and prolonging the war. Also the author forgets that General Hideki Tojo confessed to the war crimes he and his army was trialed for – while most others denied it. Why would a general do that, then later try to commit suicide?
@undertakerRach The pictures you find in books or net – especially on the case of Unit 731 are pretty Nazi-crime like – and if those pictures were fabricated, then the pictures you have provided on your homepage with Chinese children laughing and playing with the Japanese may also have been fabricated. A picture really doesn’t tell the truth, unless you find an original newspaper article with photos from that exact year which probably can be found in museums.
@undertakerRach A friend of mine is half Chinese and half Taiwanese, his Chinese grandparents were living in Taipei when the invasion of Nanjing happened. His grandaunt wrote letters from a nearby village in Jiangsu province and told them what was going on. She wrote them that several hundred of people had managed to escape Nanjing , and had taken shelter in neighboring cities. She also wrote them the stories of those she and others had sheltered which according to my friend was brutal..
@undertakerRach The case of Senkaku Islands is a different story than this. I should know; that maps and treaties that especially England and USA were involved in producing should be carefully investigated. As they have a habit of interfering with other countries laws. They’ve changed maps, divided other people’s countries and organized treaties to for their own selfish benefit. But this raid has little to do with what Chinese government is plotting on the Senkaku case.
@undertakerRach And last but not least, the newspaper you mention in your reviews Osaka Mainichi Shinbu is a Japanese newspaper. As a person very well known within the Media world - I simply doubt that they would tell the complete truth. No newspaper ever does that during an occupation that their own government have effectuated. That would be suicide! Have you read about ''The contest¨ that were covered by The Osaka Mainichi Shinbun and Tokyo Nichi Nichi Shinbun - is that a lie too?
@Medieviless Japan is not communist counntry such as China. Japan has freedom of speech. Some people think the Nanking Massacre was realy happnened in China. On the other hand, the massacre was fake story people think. This is a natural. However, Chinese people strongly believe the massacre was ture. This fact shows Chinese people are mind controled by the anti-Japanese policy under the governmnet.
@undertakerRach I'm not sure If I understood you correctly so I apologize. However, I now Japan isn't communist. otherwise there would have been a split war within Japan involving the Russians. Anti-Japanese policy under Chinese government? I can't argue with that because I have no sufficient evidence of their involvement. However - I don't believe you. You merely give links to websites that are mostly subjective and have no firm sources.
@undertakerRach Listen, you should stop proving this wrong. A war such as this can never be fictionalized. And there are plenty of evidences of Chinese people that still can prove what happened that year - like the children that were orphaned in China - and moved from cities to cities - witnessing the murdering. Do you need pictures or live people to identify the truth?
@Medieviless I don't think so. In Nov. 1937, during the Battle of Nanking, the Nationalist Party established The International Propaganda Section. The propaganda section created many fake pictures which were showd Japanese comitted crimes. However, these pictures which the KMT fabricated were revealed the truth by computers technology in 2000. Chinese governmnet is a liar.
@undertakerRach Forget the goddamn propaganda section! There are thousands of pictures out there - yet you only claim 143 or so being fake!! How many times do I have to tell you that I do not believe that every bloody picture out there is authentic to its core - but this is not about the pictures. The Chinese government probably did propaganda their cause, as often happens in wars. However, like I said - it's downright idiotic to say that the massacre actually never happened. Get it?
According to the ejcjs articles, the majority of academic research on the Nanjing Incident has been opened, some the Japanese, the Chinese and people who are speaking English have been attended the conference. Of the three language groups, Japanese has produced the most sophisticated research, with the debate in English lagging decades behind. The Chinese language materials are the collections of various primary sources, including the recollections of many of the Chinese military personnel.
@Medieviless However, these Chinese collections show no evidence of any vigorous critical attempt to distinguish between valid primary materials and other materials: photographs, for instance, which are known to be fabricated, or from different areas and different times, continue to be used to "prove" Japanese guilt in the winter of 1937-38 at Nanjing.
China has no right to accuse Japan of crimes such as the Nanking Massacre because the massacre was made up story using fabricated evidence. Obviously what China says is pure fiction! Demonstration of this fake story by the Chinese government is libel and slander. It is natural that Japanese raising an objection.
Japan should seek damages for demonstration of this fake story by the Chinese government!!
@ruebque Oh Nanking was but only one of the Chinese cities that the Japanese army bullied. They caused over nineteen million *deaths* in China. Of them some sixteen millions are *civilians*.
1. The Japanese military never reached the American mainland. Thus no atrocities there.
2. The American deaths less than five hundred thousand. Virtually all non-civilians.
3. Japanese is now under American military protection and heavy American influence.
@ruebque Do you know why the Chinese government uses the massacre persistantly? They want to hide many human problems in China using anti-Japanese policy. In China teachers have taught the Nanking Massacre to kids in order to get them angry. While they are being angry against Japan, China doesn't need to worry people rise to action such as Tiananmen incident in1989.
@ruebque@ruebque ! I have to repeat the words again & again, because Japs are the very hardheaded, arrogant & egoistic creatures on earth. They still think that they are the super-beings, out to bully the Asians again. So they are reluctant to admit their evil crimes, despite lots of evidence shown. As you Japs here said that the photos are fabricated and fake, why NOT Japan bring this matter to the International Court of Justice or complain it to the UN? Stop giving all these nonsense here.
@ruebque ! Well, I could be a reincarnation (rebirth) of one of the victims who suffered the worst torture before the devilish Jap beasts killed him & his family in China. Now it is the time to see the coming day when the Japs will fall flat and suffer. The wandering spirits (ghosts) of the victims who suffered & killed by the Japs are now haunting their killer Japs whose GOD Hirohito unable to protect them.
@ruebque China now is NOT like last time, when it was always bullied & harmed by foreign powers especially Japan. The Chinese were sick, poor & weak, so they were unable to defend their country & people. The evil Japs took this opportunity to invade China. They robbed, raped, tortured & killed many innocent Chinese civilians including infants. So China NEEDS to have a strong & powerful military force today. Japs are trying to distort History by input of untrue facts in school textbooks.
@ruebque ! As what you have said here that China has more crimes and with all the bad things you would like to say. How's that today many foreigners go there as tourists & investors go there to expand their business. Many Chinese going abroad to study too. Many Chinese investments growing in other countries as well. Today I see very few Jap tourists around. Are they too poor to travel??
(Part2/2) Why Chinese government paid money to Harold Timperley for writing book What War Means which was written about so-called the Nanking Massacre? Why Mao didn’t announce about the massacre in the international mass media conference from 1937 to 1938?
@ruebque ! What Japan & its Japs have done to OTHERS, OTHERS will one day do the same to them. Where there is an ACTION, there is an equal & opposite REACTION. Japs are good in Science, they should understand that. If you have tortured & brutally killed somebody and still keep on denying your crimes, you will suffer the SAME fate in the coming FUTURE as what you have done to your VICTIMS.
@Sinexposer (Part1/2) Why Chinese government edited at least 143 pictures in the Nanking Massacre Museum? Why Chinese government could not prove the murder of 340,000 when the IMTFE was opened?Where were 300,000 of dead bodies? Why many Chinese people came back to Nanking after Japanese occupied the city?
@undertakerRach Today it's useless for you to talk nonsense here all the time. It is now the time that China ( the great victim of Japan in the Past ) will rise like an awakening dragon of the EAST to protect Asia from the harassment by Japan again. Japs can only bully the weak & poor Asians. Can your Japs challenge the Chinese today?? Go & call your GOD Hirohito for help. Japan has failed to be the 2nd largest world economic country today & it is descending day after day.
@Sinexposer (Part1)During the Shino-Japanese war, Chinese military killed Chinese people as if they were a worm.
Have you heard Chinese people claims Japanese atrocity in the Nanking in 1937? The story is perfectly wrong. Exactly they want to hide the shameless Chinese acts during the war. In fact when Chinese military was dispatched in new place, they extorted money or expensive articles and raped Chinese women.
@Sinexposer (Part2)Generally, Chinese military either KMT, which was led by Chiang Kai-shek, or CPC, which was led by Mao were just a group of loafers. They were not high moral military. They joined to the military because they could eat everyday and robbery. In tradition of China, people used to be killed as if they were a worm by soldiers for their victory. In other words, Chinese civilians were never protected by any authorities during any war.
@Sinexposer (Part3) A Chinese man whose name was梁啓超 called Chinese people戮民, which means “never mind people die for our victory” That’s why Chinese people called CPC, Mao soldiers, 共匪 which means communists pirates because they raped many women, plundered many towns, and murdered people. Actually, Chinese commanders admitted many soldiers’ these acts at least a week after they visited a new town. If the commander had not admitted it, poor soldiers would have killed him.
@(4) Chinese soldiers destroyed people’s houses and their properties in order to wipe out any possible supplies or shelter that could be utilized by the over-extended enemy troops. This strategy is called "The Clean Field Strategy" by China. Definitely, China has cruel war strategies in their history. Tell the truth, Chinese soldiers killed 30,000 their own people in cold blood under the Clean Field Strategy in Changsha in 1938. In fact, Japanese didn’t attack the Changsha Chinese city.
@Sinexposer (Part5)Furthermore, the 1938 Yellow River flood was a very famous Chinese military mission. As a result, the course of the Yellow River was diverted southwards for nine years afterward, inundating 54,000 km² (21,000 square miles) of local provinces. All in all, the flood waters took an estimated 500,000 lives. The Chinese military did not care their people’s lives. Another example, during the Shino- Japanese War, there were barrier troops (督戦隊）in Chinese military.
@Sinexposer (Part6)When some Chinese soldiers escaped from the battle against Japanese, barrier troops killed them. Also, I read an article before, some Chinese soldiers died in the cave when Japanese soldiers arrived the somewhere in China, the Japanese suddenly sobbed because they were chained up. Another sources said Chinese soldiers were killed by barrier troop than Japanese killed.
In fact the Chinese government announced these all of the victims must have been killed by the Japanese.
@Sinexposer (Part7)Moreover, Chinese victims couldn’t receive any medical treatment for they had no money. The Chinese government said, “You can get free medical treatment in hospitals if you said Japanese injured you.” That’s why; poor Chinese claimed “we were hurt by Japanese.” That’s why there are many verbal declarations in China. On the other hand, the Chinese government can’t hand in any conclusive evidence to the academic research investigation now.
@undertakerRach ! It’s a waste of the readers’ precious time to read all your long rubbish stories here. Since you are a good writer of such stories you value as “ Real History “, why not you publish a book in English so that the world communities including the Chinese & other well known professors in History are able to read it? When are you going to publish that book? I am waiting for your ANSWER, as I am interested in your published book & not your long stories here. Sell your books around.
@Sinexposer Publishing book is notrelated to the fact of Nanking Massacre. One of the foundations of the massacre myth is based on the book which is called "What War Means", edited by Harold Timperley. But he was an advisor to the Chinese Nationalist government’s Ministry of Information. The section was propaganda section which was established by KMT (Kuomintang, Chiang Kai-shek) in China during the War. Timperley was paid by the propaganda section for writing the book.
@Sinexposer (Part8)In conclusion, Japanese should tell the true history because Chinese government has publicized faked stories even now. At least 143 pictures in the Nanking Massacre Museum were edited or distorted by the Chinese government.
@Sinexposer (Part2/2) Why Chinese government paid money to Harold Timperley for writing book What War Means which was written about so-called the Nanking Massacre? Why Mao didn’t announce about the massacre in the international mass media conference from 1937 to 1938?
@ruebque by saying that " invasion is evil then why other countries do that " will reveal that you are a very naive idiot who do not know what is GOOD & EVIL.
When a GANG of robbers invaded a HOUSEHOLD, robbed, raped, tortured & killed the family is EVIL, but the POLICE that invaded or raided the hide-out and killed those robbers in a shoot out is GOOD. Japs are the worst EVIL, but their days are numbered as NOW they are declining fast.The SUN is setting in the EAST soon!
Why Chinese government edited at least 143 pictures in the Nanking Massacre Museum? Why Chinese government could not prove the murder of 340,000 when the IMTFE was opened?Where were 300,000 of dead bodies? Why many Chinese people come back to Nanking after Japanese occupied the city?
Chinese collections show no evidence of any vigorous critical attempt to distinguish between valid primary materials and other materials: photographs, for instance, which are known to be fabricated, or from different areas and different times, continue to be used to "prove" Japanese guilt in the winter of 1937-38 at Nanjing. The Nanjing Incident Recent Research and Trends by David Askew said. The Nanking Massacre was made up story by Chinese government.
(Part2)Monition should be made here, however, that the Chinese themselves are not altogether exonerated of depredations, at least to some extent, before the entry of the Japanese. During the last few days some violations of people and property were undoubtedly committed by them. Chinese soldiers in their mad rush to discard their military uniforms and put on civilian clothes, in a number of incidents, killed civilians to obtain their clothing.
(Part1)Around December 10, which date was Japanese surrounded the Nanking city, the city was completely fallen into a state of anarchy by Chinese soldiers. The Chinese soldiers in holy terror came to be out of control and began looting. James Espy, the vice American Council at Nanking, reported to the American Embassy at Hankow concerning the aspect of the city right before the fall of Nanking as follows :
China has dreams . China dreams are (1) to occupy UK for Opium Wars (1839) (1856) and boxer revolution.(2) To occupy Japan for 1895 China -Japan war , 1900 boxer revolution , Nanking Massacre in China in 1937 and other Japan massacres in China from 1931- 1945 and (3) To occupy Indonesia for Indonesia Muslims who bullied and killed many Chinese Indonesians(1965- 1998).
fuck all the japanese, america should have rain you down with thousand of atomic bomb instead of 2, bunch of rapist and criminals,all of you should rot in hell, you are all seed of rapist and
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Before the Second Sino-Japanese War started, western countries had many colonies in the world, and westerners had operated an obscurant policy in the colonies. The Japanese only had been had equal treatment from westerners. Therefore, Japan proposed The Racial Equality in Paris Peace Conference in 1919. However, the U.S and British took strong opposition in the conference, so the proposal did not get the approval. We should know this fact.
undertakerRach 2 months ago
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According to the testimonies in The International Military Tribunal for the Far East (IMTFE), Chinese government could not prove the murder of 340,000. Therefore, the Chinese government was absorbed in collecting proofs even during the IMTFE. In other words, the Chinese government had already fixed the number of casualties into more than 300,000 before they began to collect the evidence.
undertakerRach 2 months ago
Japan only wanted equalities among Western powers but not among Asian countries. Japan wanted to be the leader nation in East Asia, to be a colonizer nation.
Thak11 2 months ago
Before the Second Sino-Japanese War started, western countries had many colonies in the world, and westerners had operated an obscurant policy in the colonies. The Japanese only had been had equal treatment from westerners. Therefore, Japan proposed The Racial Equality in Paris Peace Conference in 1919. However, the U.S and British took strong opposition in the conference, so the proposal did not get the approval. We should know this fact.
undertakerRach 3 months ago
Get ready Japan china don't forget
Smoking2muchcrack 3 months ago
A big earthquake hit Japan in March 2011. 5700 of safety boxes were swept away. Total 24 hundred million yen were missed. However, 96% of safety boxes and money were backed to each owner by police officers. On the other hand, when Sichuan earthquake hit China in 2008, many lootings happened. Some Chinese and Korean want to appeal Japan is low moral country. Exactly the reverse is true. What a wonderful country Japan!
undertakerRach 4 months ago
Thank God that the Japanese [Nazi of the Orient] were being paid back with 2 atomic bombs, earthquakes, tsunamis, nuclear power plant meltdowns. It is so amazing that they still have the ambition today that they want to grab the islands from China and Russia.
ld1711 4 months ago
≪the mopping-up operation≫
(Part1)the Japanese troops had the systematic mopping-up operation and found many Chinese soldiers hiding disguised as citizens. And some of them were put to death. In the operation, the Japanese troops had no intention of killing non-combatants. But arresting the hiding soldiers disguised as non-combatants created a great deal of misunderstanding among the westerners, giving the impression the Japanese troops had systematically committed the murder of civilians.
kaito8209 5 months ago
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Before the entry of the Japanese, Chinese soldiers in their mad rush to discard their military uniforms and put on civilian clothes. In a number of incidents, Chinese soldiers killed their people to obtain their clothing. During the last few days, some violations of people and property were undoubtedly committed by them. James Espy, the vice American Council at Nanking, reported to the American Embassy
undertakerRach 6 months ago
That Japanese military have not killed even 1 foreigners since WW2 for 65 years.
Until Iraq war, Military did not go to any foregin country.
They went to Iraq, but no fireing, they did not shoot nor kill at all , but did supporting mission.
65 years are not far from short.
China said 20,000 killed there after WW2 at first and now they say 300,000.
There are many faked photos and stories.
We do not deny the truth but deny the fake.
tkmagunam 7 months ago
@tkmagunam Your English is pretty distorted so I don't really get the full picture but let me tell you something, my own grandmother was a witness to the Nanjing Massacre. What she has been through still haunts her today. Maybe there wasn't as many "rapings" or "killings" as suggested by the Chinese Communist Government but trust me, raping and killing did occur in Nanjing. In fact, it occurred during the Hong Kong Occupation as well. There are tons of reliable witnesses who are not Chinese too
mmeeee3 6 months ago
@tkmagunam Don't get me wrong, I love Japan. I love their food, anime and style :) I even go there during holidays. I just think it is time for the Japanese government to acknowledge that women were raped and children were killed during these occupations. The fact that there are reliable witnesses (eg. missionaries, doctors and nurses who were not Chinese) proves it. The fact that this incident still haunts my grandmother is one too.
mmeeee3 6 months ago
@mmeeee3 ■(Part1)There was the International Committee for Nanking Safety Zone. This committee consisted of 22 Westerners. This committee wrote reports regarding the security situation of Nanking city 61 times from Dec.13, 1937 to Feb.9, 1938 and sent the same reports to Japanese Embassy, Embassy of the United States, British Embassy and Germany Embassy. According to these 61 reports, they reported murder: 41, mayhem: 44, rape: 361, taking: 390, plunder and others: 170 for 2 months.
undertakerRach 6 months ago
@mmeeee3 (Part2)However, all of these reports were “hearsay”. In other words, nobody of this committee witnessed them actually. The International Military Tribunal for the Far East (Tokyo Trial: 1946-1948) summoned 4 members of this committee included Magee, Ashmore Fitch, Bates and Wilson. They testified they did not witness any murder and heard from someone. This trial proved nobody witnessed murders actually and they wrote reports on the basis of”Hearsay”.
No the Nanking Massacre witnesses.
undertakerRach 6 months ago
@undertakerRach I am actually a major in history at the University of Toronto, the sources I gathered regarding the Nanjing Massacre shows a completely different story. Can I also point out that just because 4 individuals did not witness any rapes or murders did not mean it didn't happen. How can 4 westerners possibly be there a the scene, obviously Japanese soldiers would know better. The fact that thousands of other commoners reported it shows consistency.
mmeeee3 6 months ago
@mmeeee3 Also the 4 individuals could have never witnessed it because they were in the Safety Zone the whole time while commoners were brutally raped and murdered. I did not want to point this out but my own grandmother was a victim of rape. I had to force her to tell me and she did it with tears running down her eyes. Nevertheless, I actually have a life so I am not going to argue with you.
mmeeee3 6 months ago
Respond to this video... Also I would like to apologize for what other Chinese Nationalists have sent you regarding the Japanese Earthquake. I feel ashamed of what they said and those who were affected by the Tsunami and the earthquake in Japan will be in my prayers. What the last generation did in both our countries should not be blamed on the new generation, period.
mmeeee3 6 months ago
@mmee
(Part2)This attitude, having the 'Chinese Plain-clothes soldiers' pretend to be non-combatants would be considered to come under Article 23 in 'Regulation respecting the laws and customs of war on land' (the 4th Hague Convention) concluded in 1907 that specifies an 'act of disloyalty' and it infringed on the international humanitarian law. Therefore, it was legal activity that the Japanese Army conducted the mopping-up operation to arrest and to intern the Chinese Plain-clothes soldiers.
kaito8209 5 months ago
@undertakerRach Oh and one more thing, although they didn't witness the actual rape and killings of individuals, they treated them. So rapes and killings did happen. Also, even today, it is highly unlikely for someone to witness a raping unless they are the victims themselves don't you think?
mmeeee3 6 months ago
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@mmeeee3 (Part1)Minnie Vautrin, a professor at the college, wrote 100 girls were raped by Japanese soldiers in her diary on Dec 16, 1937. Also, John Rabe, the leader of the Nanking Safety Zone, wrote in 17th that 1,000 women and girls are said to have been raped last night. James McCallum, a medical doctor in Nanking, wrote about rape crimes in his diary in 19th. However, these cases of rape were what these Westerners heard about from Chinese people.
undertakerRach 6 months ago
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@mmeeee3 (Part2)About two weeks later, as mentioned in the New York Times on January 4, 1938, Vautrin and other Ginling College professors got to know that the Chinese officers harbored by them had repeatedly raped in the Nanking Safety Zone and then blamed Japanese soldiers for their attacks. The New York Times reported, “(the) American professors…were seriously embarrassed to discover (it).” So would Rabe and McCallum have been.
undertakerRach 6 months ago
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@ (Part3)In February, as the Osaka Asahi Shinbun reported, the Japanese military arrested eleven hiding Chinese soldiers who had committed numerous atrocities in Nanking, speaking Japanese and wearing counterfeit of Japanese translator's armband to pose as Japanese. After they were caught, conspicuous cases of rape, looting and other atrocities did not take place. The Chinese have accused Japan about the rape crimes during the war. However, these crimes were definitely caused by the Chinese.
undertakerRach 6 months ago
How can Japanese admit the wrong history such as the Nanking Massacre? Analyzing Photographic “Evidence” of the Nanking Massacre by historians and other recent scientific research reveal that there are no photographs attesting to a massacre in Nanking. You know, at least 143 pictures are distorted by Chinese government.
どのようにしたらこんな南京大虐殺のような嘘を認めることができようか。南京大虐殺の証拠品を検証した歴史家達と近年の科学的研究によって、虐殺を肯定できる写真などは存在しなかった。皆も知っているように、少なくとも143枚の写真は中国政府によってねつ造されているのだ。
undertakerRach 7 months ago
Nanking Massacre-Concrete Evidence Part 3 of 6
yulijin1 7 months ago
There are many many Chinese people hated Japan.
The Japanese were obsessed with the Shoah and what the Nazi did but at least, we saw them punished, we heard excuses and were sure Germany will never ever do such a thing again.
But Japan was just there, saying nothing ever happened and praying for these butchers' souls.
gonojaja 8 months ago
Why did the Safety Zone Committee say Nanking's population was 200,000 pre-occupation and 250,000 afterwards ?
The title of the fair book on amazon in USA and UK is "The Alleged Nanking Massacre : Japan's rebuttal to China's forged claims" .
Kawanya37 9 months ago
DEFECTIVE VIDEO
Beulah502 9 months ago
We have been keeping quiet even China and Korea’s outrageous attitudes to Japan for 65 years. We can’t keep quiet anymore!
undertakerRach 10 months ago
According to the report by the United Nation's Office on Drugs and Crime, the crime rate of rape in China is 2.84 to 100,000. South Korea is 12.98, Japan is 1.79. the crime rate of Robbery in China is 24.59. South Korea is 9.56. Japan is 4.07. According to the Nationalmaster statistics in the U.S said total crimes rate of China is 119 to 100,000, Japan is 54 to 100,000. The Japanese committed many crimes in Nanking city?
undertakerRach 11 months ago
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@undertakerRach I repeat: Well, it's all irrevant. See article 11, right?
Loempieja 11 months ago
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@undertakerRach I repeat my comment: it's all irrevant. See article 11, right?
Loempieja 11 months ago
@undertakerRach Are you trying to say that you use today's statistics to prove that things couldn't have happened in the past? Interesting. The past years, more than 40,000 people a year were killed in the USA in car accidents. Using your logic, which one is true? Before the white men came to America, (1) the native americans already had cars (2) more than 40,000 of them died in traffic accidents. The answer to your question: article 11, remember?
Loempieja 10 months ago
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@Loempieja (Part1)According to Summary report on the Investigation of Japanese war crimes committed in Nanking, prepared by the Procurator of the District Court in Nanking, to prepare for the IMTFE, the KMT set up the Nanking Investigation Committee for Antagonists Crime on November 7, 1945, and appealed to the Chinese public to report Japanese Army's crimes.
undertakerRach 10 months ago
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@Loempieja (Part2)It was reported, however, that few responded to the crimes committed by Japanese Army and some refused to testify or to deny the massacre occurred when they were asked for details. Then, the KMT reluctantly submitted the tentative report to the IMTFE on January 20, 1946. Except for one testimony made by a man named Lu Su, no other evidence of massacre by the Japanese Army was available, besides burial records.
undertakerRach 10 months ago
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@Loempieja During the Shino-Japanese war, Chinese military killed Chinese people as if they were a worm.
Chinese government shifted the blame to Japan
undertakerRach 10 months ago
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Where were 300,000 of dead bodies?
Why many Chinese people came back to Nanking after Japanese occupied the city?
Why Chinese government paid money to Harold Timperley for writing book What War Means which was written about so-called the Nanking Massacre?
Why Mao didn't announce about the massacre in the international mass media conferences from 1937 to 1938?
undertakerRach 11 months ago
Chinese victims couldn’t receive any medical treatment for they had no money. The Chinese government said, “You can get free medical treatment in hospitals if you said Japanese injured you.” That’s why; poor Chinese claimed “we were hurt by Japanese.” That’s why there are many verbal declarations in China. On the other hand, the Chinese government can’t hand in any conclusive evidence to the academic research investigation now.
undertakerRach 11 months ago
@undertakerRach I think it's high time you do a little bit of self-reflection. Like: do I really believe what I'm writing down here? Do I really think no Japanese soldier committed a crime, although there's a lot of evidence out there, including admittances by those who did it? Is your mind as sick as that of these murderers? Where is your self-respect that you don't care that your name is connected to this nonsence?
Loempieja 11 months ago
@Loempieja (Part1)According to the ejcjs articles, the majority of academic research on the Nanjing Incident has been opened, some the Japanese, the Chinese and people who are speaking English have been attended the conference. Of the three language groups, Japanese has produced the most sophisticated research, with the debate in English lagging decades behind.
undertakerRach 11 months ago
@Loempieja (Part2) The Chinese language materials are the collections of various primary sources, including the recollections of many of the Chinese military personnel.
undertakerRach 11 months ago
@Loempieja (Part3)However, these Chinese collections show no evidence of any vigorous critical attempt to distinguish between valid primary materials and other materials: photographs, for instance, which are known to be fabricated, or from different areas and different times, continue to be used to "prove" Japanese guilt in the winter of 1937-38 at Nanjing.
Do you have conclusive evidence about the Nanking Massacre even though Chinese governmnet does not have any of one?
undertakerRach 11 months ago
@undertakerRach I already know the routine; witnesses lie, Japanese soldiers admitting they joined the killing - well, they can't be liairs, because Japanese people don't lie - are not telling the truth, pictures are fabricaed - unless they can be used that Japanese soldiers were innocent - so there is no evidence. Like I said before, there's no evidence about the nucleair bombs either. You know, I even think the whole World War Two is made up by the Communists!
Loempieja 11 months ago
@Loempieja (Part1)Chinese government created many Japanese testimonies after the WW2 finished intentionally. After WW2, many Japanese soldiers who were dispatched China returned to Japan temporarily. However, they were caught by Chinese government as criminals. Many Japanese were in Chinese jails after finished the WW2, and they were tortured by them. The Japanese were forced to write what they did in China. In short, they had to write false diary stories which were directed by the Chinese.
undertakerRach 11 months ago
@Loempieja (Part2)Definitely, the Chinese government needed Japanese evidence about committing many massacres in China. After the Japanese wrote in the diary which shows Japanese raped many Chinese women and killed many civilians, they could be free and go back to Japan. From the perspective of psychology, if people are forced to write false stories for long time, the false stories could be true memories.
undertakerRach 11 months ago
@Loempieja (Part3)The Chukiren is a group which composed Japanese soldiers that came back from China has told these stories. A confession obtained by asking leading questions or torture is not recognized by the courts. These days, the Chinese government has still used these false stories for diplomatic cards between Japan and China. However, the Japanese were smart because they wrote another troop name which never has stayed in China.
undertakerRach 11 months ago
@undertakerRach I could repeat my previous comment 1:1. There's power in repetition, as all brainwashers know, so I won't do it. Did you do a little bit of self-reflection already? Not all proof has been provided by the Chinese! At least one denier on You Tube made the 'mistake' to admit to the Japanese involvement by arguing about the number of victims. He at least shows some mental progress. Or do you see your stubborness as a proof of strenth? I think it's a sign of stupidity.
Loempieja 11 months ago
@Loempieja These Japanese were brainwashed by former Chinese government.
In fact, most Chinese students finish high school convinced that their country has fought wars only in self-defense, never aggressively or in conquest, despite the People's Liberation Army's invasion of Tibet in 1950 and the ill-fated war with Vietnam in 1979, to take two examples. Similarly, many believe that Japan was defeated largely as a result of Chinese resistance, not by the United States.
Is this brainwash? Yes!
undertakerRach 11 months ago
@undertakerRach Not only these Japanese were brainwashed. You'll be amazed to hear that a lot of people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki actually believe an atomic bomb was thrown on their city. They try to prove this by using all the means that are also used to prove Japanese war crimes: manipulated pictures and videos, brainwashed victim accounts and accounts by people who admitted throwing these bombs. At least, YOU must agree with that because that's how you can deny war crimes, too.
Loempieja 11 months ago
@Loempieja How Japanese government restricted people access to more internet sites? Have you heard Japanese government has blocked any news articles which it does not want people know the facts? On the other hand Chinese people can’t access any Egypt news which is showing protest against Egypt government. Can you search the word 茉莉花革命in net? Chinese government restricted the word of 茉莉花革命. This means Chinese government has mind controlled people.
undertakerRach 11 months ago
@undertakerRach With you, I think the Japanese people already had full access to the internet in the first decades after World War Two, without any restriction by the Japanese government. And of course no other information was blocked. That's why the Japanese did not learn anything about WW II for decades. But explain how the fact the Chinese have no access to the news about Egypt proves that no war crimes were committed by Japanese in WW II.
Loempieja 11 months ago
@Loempieja I don't know anything about the Japanese War history? How much I don't know about that?
How about you? Do you know why Nanking citizens came back to the Nanking city after Japanese troops occupied the city?
Why Chinese government paid money to Harold Timperley for writing book What War Means which was written about so-called the Nanking Massacre?
undertakerRach 11 months ago
@Loempieja According the NYT, a teacher said a blistering pace, during a lecture on China's relations with the world from 1929 to 1939 in one of this country's, Japan decided to pursue its own longtime desire for a continental empire, and attacked China. I heard teachers have used 1937 pictures which showed the fake of Nanking Massacre.
That’s why what Chinese people in youtube said were so one-sided.
undertakerRach 11 months ago
@Loempieja How many people were living in the Nanking city in Aug 1937?
KMT troops runaway to Nanking city from Shanghai in Aug 1937, why?
Before Japanese attacked the Nanking city, the commander of the Japanese troops received a letter from a foreigner who has lived in Nanking. Who was that?
After Japanese troops enterd in the catsle of Nanking, what did they see?
undertakerRach 11 months ago
@undertakerRach Nice you are trying to turn this into a quiz. The next thing you want to know is the names and the addresses of the people that were killed. But what's the relevance of q1? The massacre occurred later. You ask q2 because you want to hear the Japs defeated his forces. Q3, Alexander the Great, who asked him to bring along some Japanese stamps. Most people do not know that. Q4: Japanese correspondent Suzuki Jiro, who later wrote about the mass killings by Jap soldiers.
Loempieja 11 months ago
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@Loempieja How many people were living in the Nanking city in Aug 1937?
KMT troops runaway to Nanking city from Shanghai in Aug 1937, why?
Before Japanese attacked the Nanking city, the commander of the Japanese troops received a letter from a foreigner who has lived in Nanking. Who was that?
After Japanese troop’s entered in the castle of Nanking, what did they see?
undertakerRach 11 months ago
@LoempiejaHow many people were living in the Nanking city in Aug 1937?
KMT troops runaway to Nanking city from Shanghai in Aug 1937, why?
Before Japanese attacked the Nanking city, the commander of the Japanese troops received a letter from a foreigner who has lived in Nanking. Who was that?
After Japanese troop’s entered in the castle of Nanking, what did they see?
undertakerRach 11 months ago
@undertakerRach My turn:
What's the name of the unit 731 doctor known for his torture of frozen captives?
Who admitted he took part in the Japanese biological attack on Ningbo?
Who wrote 'we kenpeitai men sent 3,000 people to their deaths in Unit 731'?
What was the average daily death toll of prisoners during the 16 months it took to build the Death Railway?
What was the contest between Toshiaki Mukai en Tsuyoshi Noda?
Matsui is a war criminal. Why does Japan has to accept this?
Loempieja 11 months ago
@Loempieja We are talking about the Nanking Massacre. The unit 731 story is not related to the fake of Nanking.
Where are your answers? You can't answers my questions that's why you asked me other qurstions.
You Chinese man is very dirty!
undertakerRach 11 months ago
@undertakerRach 1. I'm glad we established that unit 731 is not a fake.
2. My answers you'll find below. I understand you want to show that you are the authority here. So prove it:
3. Where are the answers to my questions? You'll consider the questions irrelevant but your 'truth' on Nanking is based on the assumption that the Japanese treated their prisoners so well. So the answers to my questions are pretty inconvenient.
4. Two are related to Nanking, so let me answer them for you:
Loempieja 11 months ago
@Loempieja (Part1)
How many people were living in the Nanking city in Aug 1937?
KMT troops runaway to Nanking city from Shanghai in Aug 1937, why?
Before Japanese attacked the Nanking city, the commander of the Japanese troops received a letter from a foreigner who has lived in Nanking. Who was that?
After Japanese troop’s entered in the castle of Nanking, what did they see?
undertakerRach 11 months ago
@undertakerRach .... of the International Military Tribunal for the Far East and of other Allied War Crimes Courts both within and outside Japan. Signed by Japan. So it's pretty easy. Matsui was found guilty of the Nanking Massacre and sentenced to death as a war criminal. By signing the treaty Japan accepts this judgment. You can lie all you want and play the expert but I don't care. Japan accepts the judgment that Japan was responsible for the Nanking Massacre.
Loempieja 11 months ago
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@Loempieja (Part2)
Where were 300,000 of dead bodies?
Why many Chinese people came back to Nanking after Japanese occupied the city?
Why Chinese government paid money to Harold Timperley for writing book What War Means which was written about so-called the Nanking Massacre?
Why Mao didn't announce about the massacre in the international mass media conferences from 1937 to 1938?
undertakerRach 11 months ago
@undertakerRach Mukai and Noda were engaged in a contest who could kill most Chinese by sword. Not in combat but most after their capture. They were sentenced to death and executed. Iwane Matsui was convicted of war crimes and sentenced to death by hanging by the International Military Tribunal for the Far East for responsibility over the Nanking Massacre. In 1951 Japan signed the treaty of San Francisco. Are you familiar with article 11? It states that Japan accepts the judgment of the
Loempieja 11 months ago
@Loempieja (Part1)A Chinese counselor for the defense clarified that ASAMI's article which was written about the 'Murder Race' story was proved to be nothing but a fiction in the Nanking Court-martial as follows:
undertakerRach 11 months ago
@Loempieja (Part2)
1 The certificate sent on December 10, 1947, from ASAMI clarified that 'the article was by no means what he had witnessed'.
2 The units to which the accused MUKAI and NODA belonged had never been nor had a combat near at Purple Mountain (where the article covered). In other words, NODA had never been Purple Mountain.
undertakerRach 11 months ago
@Loempieja (Part3)The only evidence provided was a Japanese newspaper. However, judicial precedents at the Chinese Supreme Court had declared that newspapers were not to be regarded as proof'. Chinese government has created a lot of Nanking Massacre evidence.
You should study first and write your comments.
undertakerRach 11 months ago
@undertakerRach Well, it's all irrevant. See article 11, right?
Loempieja 11 months ago
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(Part1)The population of Nanking just before the Japanese occupation was about 200,000. About a week before the Japanese attack on Nanking, on November 28, 1937, the head of the Police Department of Nanking, Mr. Wan, announced at a press conference for foreigners, "About 200,000 people still live here in Nanking."
undertakerRach 11 months ago
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China has no right to accuse Japan of crimes such as the Nanking Massacre because the massacre was made up story using fabricated evidence.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
In manpower, China is larger than Japan & USA combined. So do not think that the Americans whose bodies are now full of ants can help you much, if you created troubles with the Chinese in this modern time. UndertakerRach, wake up & don't dream anymore!
Yamashitaist 1 year ago
@Yamashitaist Timperley was paid by the Ministry of Information in China for writing the book "What War Means". The book was written about the Japanese atrocity. Zeng Xubai, then chief of the international propaganda division, said in his autobiography (vol. I, p. 201) that the central propaganda bureau funded the publication of Timperly’s What War Means and Lewis S. C. Smythe’s War Damages in the Nanking Area. Both of these books must have Chinese propaganda books.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach This sounds like propaganda. And it is.
Loempieja 1 year ago
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@Loempieja Yes, you are right. This was a Chinese propaganda.
The Nanking Massacre was a false story.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@Loempieja How could the Japanese kill 300,000 citizens in a city that held only 200,000 people?
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach You better ask the Japanese soldiers who were there. Or you could ask the survivors. The problem here is that you think you own the truth. You say there were only 200.000 inhabitants. (Or did you mean: survivors?) So we have to accept that as the truth. Do you have more 'truth' for us, like your emperor was a peace loving man, who sent away an army of gardeners to make the world a prettier place?
Loempieja 1 year ago
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@Loempieja ■(Part1/4)Chinese government has claimed Japanese soldiers killed 300,000 Chinese civilians while the Japanese were staying in Nanking city in China. After the Japanese occupation, did the population of Nanking decrease by more than 300,000? Let’s look at many historical records. On Dec 8,1937， Tang Sheng-zhi, who was Chinese commander, warned that all the noncombatants should assemble in the Safety Zone, and the citizens rushed into the Safety Zone for the safety.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
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@Loempieja (Part2/4)As the result, there were no people within the castle except in the Safety Zone. John Rabe, the Safety Zone Committee (TSZC) member, wrote in his diary in Dec 10, when the Nanking battle began, the Nanking population was 200,000. TSZC described in the Document No.9 dated in Dec 17, "On the 13th when the Japanese entered the city, we had nearly all the civilian population in the Safety Zone, so the number 200,000 is no doubt.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
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@Loempieja (Part3/4) For TSZC, it was absolutely necessary to know the accurate number of people in order to distribute food to those refugees. After the Japanese victory and occupation took place, TSZC in its document dated on December 17, and in subsequent documents, consistently recognized this number. Afterwards how did the population of Nanking change? TSZC documents read that in January 1938 the population was 250,000.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
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@Loempieja (Part4/4)Lewis S. C. Smythe, professor of Nanking University investigated the population with the help of many Chinese staffs on February 1938. He wrote a report which shows the population of Nanking was 250,000 or 270,000 as of the end of March 1938. The Nanking City Administrative Office of the Nanking Restoration Government, which was established on March 28, 1938, registered 277,000 inhabitants. Japanese soldiers killed 300,000 Chinese people in Nanking city?
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@Loempieja Records of the International Committee’s activities were published in 1939 as Documents of the Nanking Safety Zone by a British company in Shanghai, under the auspices of the Nationalist Government’s Council of International Affairs. According to those records, the population of Nanking prior to its occupation by the Japanese was 200,000. By the end of January, it had increased to 250,000. How can China claim 300,000 Chinese were killed by Japanese?
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@Loempieja, you need to understand the evil mentality of the Japs, especially "UndertakerRach" who is a Jap agent stationed here in YouTube long ago, to give all the make-up stories & other baseless statements in order to cover up Japs' cruelty & brutality in their atrocities to the innocent civilians in Asia they had occupied. Japs are very much more cruel & evil than the NAZI Germans who did not gorge the babies' eyes out & left them to die in pain, but the Japs did that with joy.
Sinexposer 11 months ago
@Sinexposer It is not that hard to understand the evil mentality of the undertaker. It has to do with the limitations of his brain capacity, I think. The only thing he does is 'proving' that Japanese soldiers could not have committed war crimes because of irrelevant other crimes and apparent good deeds by the Japanese. Like "Nazi Germans are innocent because in New York, in 1933, a Jew forgot to a 10% discount." To think you can convince anyone with arguments like that.....
Loempieja 11 months ago
UndertakerRach, stop all your nonsense here. Your inhumane & baseless statements will aggravate more hatred of our Japanese by the Chinese. The modern Chinese today are very different from those in 1937 when Japanese can bully & harm them. China now is the 2nd largest economy in the World, replaced Japan. Their people are more educated & wealthy. Their military has well trained fighters with better technological equipment & weapons. Why more foreign tourists & students go to China if it is bad?
Yamashitaist 1 year ago
UndertakerRach, you are really a inhumane Japanese LIAR & IDIOT living today.
You give Japan & our good Japanese a great SHAME !
Yamashitaist 1 year ago
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@Yamashitaist The Nanking Massacre was a false story.
Why Chinese government edited at least 143 pictures in the Nanking Massacre Museum?
Why Chinese government could not prove the murder of 340,000 when the IMTFE was opened?
Where were 300,000 of dead bodies?
Why many Chinese people came back to Nanking after Japanese occupied the city?
Can you answer my questions?
undertakerRach 1 year ago
(Part2)Even now, the people in Tibet are still abused, and their cultures are being destroyed. The very Communist China declared that the problem of Tibet is a problem relating to domestic affairs and refused the interference of the foreign nations. On the other hand, the CCP is loudly denouncing the Nanking Massacre which had been insisted on its happening more than sixty years ago, but this is not even clearly defined.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach ! As what you have said here that China has more crimes and with all the bad things you would like to say. How's that today many foreigners go there as tourists & investors go there to expand their business. Many Chinese going abroad to study too. Many Chinese investments growing in other countries as well. Wake up you Jap! Nobody will go to China if it is BAD. Achievements & progress will show the TRUTH. Today I see very few Jap tourists around. Are they too poor to travel??
Sinexposer 1 year ago 2
@Sinexposer You believe Japanese people are the most mercilessness people because Chinese governmnet has taught so to schoolkids. This is the Anti-Japan policy in Chinese communist government. They have created much evidence which show Japanese atorocity.
However, most pictures and videos show Chinese pupblic executions. They put captions which say Japanese soldiers committed many crimes to the pictures and they spread out these to the wolrd.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
(Part1) In fact, it estimated that a far larger number of 65,000,000 people had been victimized in China, is still existing under the dictatorial political system, and still persecuting minorities and committing human right violations ceaselessly. Especially in Tibet, more than 1,200,000 people, corresponding to roughly 20% of the total population, were massacred since being unfairly annexed to Communist China in 1955.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach ! Today it's the time China (the great victim of Japan in the Past) will rise like an awakening dragon of the EAST to protect Asia from the harassment by Japan again. Japs can only bully the weak & poor Asians. Can your Japs challenge the Chinese today?? Go & start an attack on China with your invincible Imperial Jap Army like in 1937 & see what will happen to your Japs. Don’t be cowards to call your Big Brother for help, as his body is already full of ANTS.
Sinexposer 1 year ago 2
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@Sinexposer (Part1)I don't think so. In fact, Chinese soldiers killed many Chinese civilians during the war. Chinese soldiers destroyed people’s houses and their properties in order to wipe out any possible supplies or shelter that could be utilized by the over-extended enemy troops. This strategy is called "The Clean Field Strategy" by China. Definitely, China has cruel war strategies in their history.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@Sinexposer (Part2)Tell the truth, Chinese soldiers killed 30,000 their own people in cold blood under the Clean Field Strategy in Changsha in 1938. In fact, Japanese didn’t attack the Changsha Chinese city. Furthermore, the 1938 Yellow River flood was a very famous Chinese military mission. As a result, the course of the Yellow River was diverted southwards for nine years afterward, inundating 54,000 km² of local provinces. All in all, the flood waters took an estimated 500,000 lives.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
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undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach Why are most of your comments either removed or reported as spam?
Medieviless 1 year ago
@Medieviless I don't know, but I have heard some words in my comments are restructed to showing in Youtube.
We are living in a freedom coutry, however, youtube is a communist company?
I know many Chinese are trying to annoy us.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach Are you a Japanese?
Medieviless 1 year ago
@Medieviless The Fake of Nanking Massacre-3 Population
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undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach ! I have to repeat the words again & again, because you Japs are the very hardheaded, arrogant & egoistic creatures on earth. They still think that they are the super-beings, out to bully the Asians again. So they are reluctant to admit their evil crimes, despite lots of evidence shown. As you Japs here said that the photos are fabricated and fake, why NOT Japan bring this matter to the International Court of Justice or complain it to the UN? Stop giving all these nonsense here.
Sinexposer 1 year ago 2
@Medieviless, "undertakerRach" is not only a Jap, but an extremist and egoistic Jap AGENT posted here for a long time, trying to ward off any criticism on the crimes committed by the brutal & cruel Japs. "undertakerRach" could be a jobless Jap who could not find any better job, so he took up this employment. You can see him everywhere in YouTube, giving his own baseless statements.
Sinexposer 1 year ago 2
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However, these Chinese collections show no evidence of any vigorous critical attempt to distinguish between valid primary materials and other materials: photographs, for instance, which are known to be fabricated, or from different areas and different times, continue to be used to "prove" Japanese guilt in the winter of 1937-38 at Nanjing.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@ruebque I'm amazed at your gormless mind. Implying that the casualties at Pearl Harbour were higher than Nanjing is outrageous. At least the Japanese didn't mutilate, rape, torture the US soldiers? Japanese soldiers killed American soldiers - fair and square! The Americans, however - cowardly used to attack from 1000s of miles away- not caring if civilians lives would be lost. US fought the most cowardly war in WW2I - worse than the Nazis in fact. Period!
Medieviless 1 year ago
@ruebque What the..? Are you insane? The states never needed to forgive Japan for the bloody Pearl Harbour attack! They took a brutal vengeance for instead remember? Hiroshima? How about Nagasaki? It's the Japanese that should be forgiving the States - NOT the other way around. Pearl Harbour was a military attack. Nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were history's worst war crime ever!!
Now you tell me who really was the one who needed to pull the ''red flag'' out of their asses?
Medieviless 1 year ago
Show me your conclusive evidence about the Nanking Massacre.
哪里尸体30万？为什么许多中国人民回到南京后，日本占领了城市？
なぜ南京市には30万の死体がないの? なぜ日本軍が占領した南京市に中国人がたくさん戻ってきたの?
Where were 300,000 of dead bodies? Why many Chinese people came back to Nanking after Japanese occupied the city?
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach Are you serious? Are you denying that many women and infants that supposedly were raped, got either a cane, bayonets, bamboo sticks or even bottles thrusted into their vaginas? Some had their breasts sliced up, and pregnant women were a target as to their ''wipe out the Chinese race'' strategy. Is all this really propaganda? What does it matter if 300 000 or 1 million or 20 civilians died this way - it's barbaric and completely dishonoring.
Medieviless 1 year ago
@Medieviless You believe what Chinese government said. However, the history which was taught by Chinese government is completely wrong. Many Chinese have learned that Japan was defeated largely as a result of Chinese resistance, not by the United States. About the Nanking Massacre, claiming Chinese has no historical basis. Since 2000 of the year, computer technology has revealed 143 pictures were edited, created or trimmed and changed the explanation by Chinese government.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach As for the evidence part... this was in 1937 - not every Japanese or Chinese walked around with a camera - so the evidence are never conclusive in wars like these. Though you can't deny that the Japanese army really went straight out of line here. History should remain history - but humans denying this ever happened is even more barbaric!
Medieviless 1 year ago
@Medieviless The Japanese want to correct wrong rumors which Chinese spread out to the world. Chinese people who are mind controlled by anti-Japanese policy after the Tiananmen Massacre in 1989, they started it, they have announced wrong myths about Japanese acts during the Sino-Japanese War ceaselessly.
Anti-Japanese Policy in China（English, Japanese and Chinese）
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undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach I never said that I believe in any Governments story. I’m well aware of what a Government, democratic or not, can do in order to get what they want. I think both the Japanese and Chinese leaders have played dirty tricks to their own gain – not at least thinking of the real victims. However, my point in all of this is that these things really did happen that year. Numbers may have been played around with, but the genocidal raid was effectuated in December 1937.
Medieviless 1 year ago
@undertakerRach I’ve seen you write quite a lot about John Rabe telling two different stories. You may be correct here to some extent. I believe to gain respect or being highly ranked in status by Hitler – he may have lied somewhat about the casualties. But the letters he sent to Tokyo are by far from lies. What the hell would he gain there? There are stories told by Japanese veterans who confirmed the rape, the murders and the mutilations, not only in Nanjing, but in Philippines as well.
Medieviless 1 year ago
@undertakerRach I’ve read Mr. Higashinakano Shudo’s book on fiction and facts in the invasion and he makes some pretty notifying points there, but the contemporaneous records he is referring to is indecisive due to one thing – they are all referred to high linked foreigners working for US, British and German Governments. Most of them trying to protect Japan – the leading key role goes to the leaders of the States, the British and the Australians who had their own agenda at play.
Medieviless 1 year ago
@undertakerRach Hypocrisy – fighting against Japan in front of the audience, but behind the scenes they needed Japans Emperor not to be trialed as that would result to his removal and prolonging the war. Also the author forgets that General Hideki Tojo confessed to the war crimes he and his army was trialed for – while most others denied it. Why would a general do that, then later try to commit suicide?
Medieviless 1 year ago
@undertakerRach The pictures you find in books or net – especially on the case of Unit 731 are pretty Nazi-crime like – and if those pictures were fabricated, then the pictures you have provided on your homepage with Chinese children laughing and playing with the Japanese may also have been fabricated. A picture really doesn’t tell the truth, unless you find an original newspaper article with photos from that exact year which probably can be found in museums.
Medieviless 1 year ago
@undertakerRach A friend of mine is half Chinese and half Taiwanese, his Chinese grandparents were living in Taipei when the invasion of Nanjing happened. His grandaunt wrote letters from a nearby village in Jiangsu province and told them what was going on. She wrote them that several hundred of people had managed to escape Nanjing , and had taken shelter in neighboring cities. She also wrote them the stories of those she and others had sheltered which according to my friend was brutal..
Medieviless 1 year ago
@undertakerRach The case of Senkaku Islands is a different story than this. I should know; that maps and treaties that especially England and USA were involved in producing should be carefully investigated. As they have a habit of interfering with other countries laws. They’ve changed maps, divided other people’s countries and organized treaties to for their own selfish benefit. But this raid has little to do with what Chinese government is plotting on the Senkaku case.
Medieviless 1 year ago
@undertakerRach And last but not least, the newspaper you mention in your reviews Osaka Mainichi Shinbu is a Japanese newspaper. As a person very well known within the Media world - I simply doubt that they would tell the complete truth. No newspaper ever does that during an occupation that their own government have effectuated. That would be suicide! Have you read about ''The contest¨ that were covered by The Osaka Mainichi Shinbun and Tokyo Nichi Nichi Shinbun - is that a lie too?
Medieviless 1 year ago
@Medieviless Some Japanese newspaper company is very close to Chinese people.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach Is that all you have to say for your accusations?
Medieviless 1 year ago
@Medieviless Japan is not communist counntry such as China. Japan has freedom of speech. Some people think the Nanking Massacre was realy happnened in China. On the other hand, the massacre was fake story people think. This is a natural. However, Chinese people strongly believe the massacre was ture. This fact shows Chinese people are mind controled by the anti-Japanese policy under the governmnet.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach I'm not sure If I understood you correctly so I apologize. However, I now Japan isn't communist. otherwise there would have been a split war within Japan involving the Russians. Anti-Japanese policy under Chinese government? I can't argue with that because I have no sufficient evidence of their involvement. However - I don't believe you. You merely give links to websites that are mostly subjective and have no firm sources.
Medieviless 1 year ago
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@Medieviless Anti-Japanese Policy in China（English, Japanese and Chinese）
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undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach Listen, you should stop proving this wrong. A war such as this can never be fictionalized. And there are plenty of evidences of Chinese people that still can prove what happened that year - like the children that were orphaned in China - and moved from cities to cities - witnessing the murdering. Do you need pictures or live people to identify the truth?
Medieviless 1 year ago
@Medieviless I don't think so. In Nov. 1937, during the Battle of Nanking, the Nationalist Party established The International Propaganda Section. The propaganda section created many fake pictures which were showd Japanese comitted crimes. However, these pictures which the KMT fabricated were revealed the truth by computers technology in 2000. Chinese governmnet is a liar.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach Forget the goddamn propaganda section! There are thousands of pictures out there - yet you only claim 143 or so being fake!! How many times do I have to tell you that I do not believe that every bloody picture out there is authentic to its core - but this is not about the pictures. The Chinese government probably did propaganda their cause, as often happens in wars. However, like I said - it's downright idiotic to say that the massacre actually never happened. Get it?
Medieviless 1 year ago
According to the ejcjs articles, the majority of academic research on the Nanjing Incident has been opened, some the Japanese, the Chinese and people who are speaking English have been attended the conference. Of the three language groups, Japanese has produced the most sophisticated research, with the debate in English lagging decades behind. The Chinese language materials are the collections of various primary sources, including the recollections of many of the Chinese military personnel.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
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@Medieviless However, these Chinese collections show no evidence of any vigorous critical attempt to distinguish between valid primary materials and other materials: photographs, for instance, which are known to be fabricated, or from different areas and different times, continue to be used to "prove" Japanese guilt in the winter of 1937-38 at Nanjing.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
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China has no right to accuse Japan of crimes such as the Nanking Massacre because the massacre was made up story using fabricated evidence. Obviously what China says is pure fiction! Demonstration of this fake story by the Chinese government is libel and slander. It is natural that Japanese raising an objection.
Japan should seek damages for demonstration of this fake story by the Chinese government!!
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@ruebque Oh Nanking was but only one of the Chinese cities that the Japanese army bullied. They caused over nineteen million *deaths* in China. Of them some sixteen millions are *civilians*.
1. The Japanese military never reached the American mainland. Thus no atrocities there.
2. The American deaths less than five hundred thousand. Virtually all non-civilians.
3. Japanese is now under American military protection and heavy American influence.
Please do get the right messages!
wc200709 1 year ago
@ruebque Do you know why the Chinese government uses the massacre persistantly? They want to hide many human problems in China using anti-Japanese policy. In China teachers have taught the Nanking Massacre to kids in order to get them angry. While they are being angry against Japan, China doesn't need to worry people rise to action such as Tiananmen incident in1989.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@ruebque @ruebque ! I have to repeat the words again & again, because Japs are the very hardheaded, arrogant & egoistic creatures on earth. They still think that they are the super-beings, out to bully the Asians again. So they are reluctant to admit their evil crimes, despite lots of evidence shown. As you Japs here said that the photos are fabricated and fake, why NOT Japan bring this matter to the International Court of Justice or complain it to the UN? Stop giving all these nonsense here.
Galseeker 1 year ago
@ruebque ! Well, I could be a reincarnation (rebirth) of one of the victims who suffered the worst torture before the devilish Jap beasts killed him & his family in China. Now it is the time to see the coming day when the Japs will fall flat and suffer. The wandering spirits (ghosts) of the victims who suffered & killed by the Japs are now haunting their killer Japs whose GOD Hirohito unable to protect them.
Sinexposer 1 year ago
@ruebque China now is NOT like last time, when it was always bullied & harmed by foreign powers especially Japan. The Chinese were sick, poor & weak, so they were unable to defend their country & people. The evil Japs took this opportunity to invade China. They robbed, raped, tortured & killed many innocent Chinese civilians including infants. So China NEEDS to have a strong & powerful military force today. Japs are trying to distort History by input of untrue facts in school textbooks.
Sinexposer 1 year ago
@ruebque ! As what you have said here that China has more crimes and with all the bad things you would like to say. How's that today many foreigners go there as tourists & investors go there to expand their business. Many Chinese going abroad to study too. Many Chinese investments growing in other countries as well. Today I see very few Jap tourists around. Are they too poor to travel??
Sinexposer 1 year ago
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(Part2/2) Why Chinese government paid money to Harold Timperley for writing book What War Means which was written about so-called the Nanking Massacre? Why Mao didn’t announce about the massacre in the international mass media conference from 1937 to 1938?
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@ruebque ! What Japan & its Japs have done to OTHERS, OTHERS will one day do the same to them. Where there is an ACTION, there is an equal & opposite REACTION. Japs are good in Science, they should understand that. If you have tortured & brutally killed somebody and still keep on denying your crimes, you will suffer the SAME fate in the coming FUTURE as what you have done to your VICTIMS.
Sinexposer 1 year ago
@Sinexposer (Part1/2) Why Chinese government edited at least 143 pictures in the Nanking Massacre Museum? Why Chinese government could not prove the murder of 340,000 when the IMTFE was opened?Where were 300,000 of dead bodies? Why many Chinese people came back to Nanking after Japanese occupied the city?
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach Today it's useless for you to talk nonsense here all the time. It is now the time that China ( the great victim of Japan in the Past ) will rise like an awakening dragon of the EAST to protect Asia from the harassment by Japan again. Japs can only bully the weak & poor Asians. Can your Japs challenge the Chinese today?? Go & call your GOD Hirohito for help. Japan has failed to be the 2nd largest world economic country today & it is descending day after day.
Sinexposer 1 year ago
@Sinexposer (Part1)During the Shino-Japanese war, Chinese military killed Chinese people as if they were a worm.
Have you heard Chinese people claims Japanese atrocity in the Nanking in 1937? The story is perfectly wrong. Exactly they want to hide the shameless Chinese acts during the war. In fact when Chinese military was dispatched in new place, they extorted money or expensive articles and raped Chinese women.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@Sinexposer (Part2)Generally, Chinese military either KMT, which was led by Chiang Kai-shek, or CPC, which was led by Mao were just a group of loafers. They were not high moral military. They joined to the military because they could eat everyday and robbery. In tradition of China, people used to be killed as if they were a worm by soldiers for their victory. In other words, Chinese civilians were never protected by any authorities during any war.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@Sinexposer (Part3) A Chinese man whose name was梁啓超 called Chinese people戮民, which means “never mind people die for our victory” That’s why Chinese people called CPC, Mao soldiers, 共匪 which means communists pirates because they raped many women, plundered many towns, and murdered people. Actually, Chinese commanders admitted many soldiers’ these acts at least a week after they visited a new town. If the commander had not admitted it, poor soldiers would have killed him.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@(4) Chinese soldiers destroyed people’s houses and their properties in order to wipe out any possible supplies or shelter that could be utilized by the over-extended enemy troops. This strategy is called "The Clean Field Strategy" by China. Definitely, China has cruel war strategies in their history. Tell the truth, Chinese soldiers killed 30,000 their own people in cold blood under the Clean Field Strategy in Changsha in 1938. In fact, Japanese didn’t attack the Changsha Chinese city.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@Sinexposer (Part5)Furthermore, the 1938 Yellow River flood was a very famous Chinese military mission. As a result, the course of the Yellow River was diverted southwards for nine years afterward, inundating 54,000 km² (21,000 square miles) of local provinces. All in all, the flood waters took an estimated 500,000 lives. The Chinese military did not care their people’s lives. Another example, during the Shino- Japanese War, there were barrier troops (督戦隊）in Chinese military.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@Sinexposer (Part6)When some Chinese soldiers escaped from the battle against Japanese, barrier troops killed them. Also, I read an article before, some Chinese soldiers died in the cave when Japanese soldiers arrived the somewhere in China, the Japanese suddenly sobbed because they were chained up. Another sources said Chinese soldiers were killed by barrier troop than Japanese killed.
In fact the Chinese government announced these all of the victims must have been killed by the Japanese.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@Sinexposer (Part7)Moreover, Chinese victims couldn’t receive any medical treatment for they had no money. The Chinese government said, “You can get free medical treatment in hospitals if you said Japanese injured you.” That’s why; poor Chinese claimed “we were hurt by Japanese.” That’s why there are many verbal declarations in China. On the other hand, the Chinese government can’t hand in any conclusive evidence to the academic research investigation now.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach ! It’s a waste of the readers’ precious time to read all your long rubbish stories here. Since you are a good writer of such stories you value as “ Real History “, why not you publish a book in English so that the world communities including the Chinese & other well known professors in History are able to read it? When are you going to publish that book? I am waiting for your ANSWER, as I am interested in your published book & not your long stories here. Sell your books around.
Sinexposer 1 year ago
@Sinexposer Publishing book is notrelated to the fact of Nanking Massacre. One of the foundations of the massacre myth is based on the book which is called "What War Means", edited by Harold Timperley. But he was an advisor to the Chinese Nationalist government’s Ministry of Information. The section was propaganda section which was established by KMT (Kuomintang, Chiang Kai-shek) in China during the War. Timperley was paid by the propaganda section for writing the book.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
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@Sinexposer (Part8)In conclusion, Japanese should tell the true history because Chinese government has publicized faked stories even now. At least 143 pictures in the Nanking Massacre Museum were edited or distorted by the Chinese government.
Shame on China! Chinese killed Chinese!
undertakerRach 1 year ago
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@Sinexposer (Part2/2) Why Chinese government paid money to Harold Timperley for writing book What War Means which was written about so-called the Nanking Massacre? Why Mao didn’t announce about the massacre in the international mass media conference from 1937 to 1938?
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@ruebque by saying that " invasion is evil then why other countries do that " will reveal that you are a very naive idiot who do not know what is GOOD & EVIL.
When a GANG of robbers invaded a HOUSEHOLD, robbed, raped, tortured & killed the family is EVIL, but the POLICE that invaded or raided the hide-out and killed those robbers in a shoot out is GOOD. Japs are the worst EVIL, but their days are numbered as NOW they are declining fast.The SUN is setting in the EAST soon!
Sinexposer 1 year ago
Why Chinese government edited at least 143 pictures in the Nanking Massacre Museum? Why Chinese government could not prove the murder of 340,000 when the IMTFE was opened?Where were 300,000 of dead bodies? Why many Chinese people come back to Nanking after Japanese occupied the city?
undertakerRach 1 year ago
Yea sure, there were no massacres by the Japs and no body droped any atom bombs on Japan either. Or we can face the facts.
hodaka1000 1 year ago
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0519075130 1 year ago
@0519075130 You are right!
undertakerRach 1 year ago
Chinese collections show no evidence of any vigorous critical attempt to distinguish between valid primary materials and other materials: photographs, for instance, which are known to be fabricated, or from different areas and different times, continue to be used to "prove" Japanese guilt in the winter of 1937-38 at Nanjing. The Nanjing Incident Recent Research and Trends by David Askew said. The Nanking Massacre was made up story by Chinese government.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
The truth in Nanjing.
The Chinese guerrilla army of 2000 people wore the service uniform of Japan.
This is a faked photo.
Sorokini376k 1 year ago
(Part2)Monition should be made here, however, that the Chinese themselves are not altogether exonerated of depredations, at least to some extent, before the entry of the Japanese. During the last few days some violations of people and property were undoubtedly committed by them. Chinese soldiers in their mad rush to discard their military uniforms and put on civilian clothes, in a number of incidents, killed civilians to obtain their clothing.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
(Part1)Around December 10, which date was Japanese surrounded the Nanking city, the city was completely fallen into a state of anarchy by Chinese soldiers. The Chinese soldiers in holy terror came to be out of control and began looting. James Espy, the vice American Council at Nanking, reported to the American Embassy at Hankow concerning the aspect of the city right before the fall of Nanking as follows :
undertakerRach 1 year ago
China has dreams . China dreams are (1) to occupy UK for Opium Wars (1839) (1856) and boxer revolution.(2) To occupy Japan for 1895 China -Japan war , 1900 boxer revolution , Nanking Massacre in China in 1937 and other Japan massacres in China from 1931- 1945 and (3) To occupy Indonesia for Indonesia Muslims who bullied and killed many Chinese Indonesians(1965- 1998).
andyhwang2009 1 year ago
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undertakerRach 1 year ago
戦時中、中国人民の本当の敵は日本軍ではなく、中国軍だった。そしてそれは今でも同じだ。
During the war, Chinese people's enemy was The Chinese military. Even now, peaceful Chinese are in the same situation.
戰時,中國人民真的對手並不是日軍,而是中共解放軍(或國民政府軍), 而且現在也是一樣的.
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undertakerRach 1 year ago
fuck all the japanese, america should have rain you down with thousand of atomic bomb instead of 2, bunch of rapist and criminals,all of you should rot in hell, you are all seed of rapist and