On Demand HUGE Hydrogen Production, How to Make Hydrogen

[nexus1g]

I imagine that the energy input > energy output, correct?

[knowpub]

@nexus1g NEVER EVER is that the case, ever. Energy out is ALWAYS less than energy in. Even if you burn a log, you do NOT get out the energy it took the sun to make it. Hydrogen is a method of TRANSPORTING energy from one source to another, and it is ALWAYS at a loss.

[nexus1g]

@knowpub Yeah, that's what I was trying to express. That energy out was less than energy in. I wanted to verify that (and make sure this wasn't some elaborate "free energy" scam) before asking my next question. What's the point of converting one fuel to another if you're just going to lose efficiency?

[knowpub]

@nexus1g umm... because you can't use silcon and lye in an engine, because you cant use plant leaves in an engine, because you can't use crude oil in a regular engine. They all have to be transformed into something that can be used in an engine. In the example of ALL of the above, they can all be converted into hydrogen or hydrogen and carbon monoxide and run in any engine. Plant material converted to hydrogen is great, even if it took a lot of solar to make it, you pick it up off the ground.

[nexus1g]

@knowpub In its gaseous state, the first issue that comes to mind is storage. Would the hydrogen need to be liquefied to be stored efficiently?

[knowpub]

@nexus1g Liquefied hydrogen is stupid for ground transportation. Just compress it into high pressure tanks, its done daily with natural gas and we show that in the 3.5 Hour DVDD - The Hydrogen Car and MultiFuel DVD in the WHERE TO START section at USH (dot) com

[omegapoint777]

Is this too expensive to be used industrially?

[knowpub]

@omegapoint777 Not if you mine the ferrosilicon then it is not too expensive to be used industrially, its one of the cheapest methods if you get mined ferrosilicon. Remember, when this was being used in the early 1900's, energy was a LOT more expensive than it is now, and we have much better mining efficiency NOW then we did THEN. Plus the reactant by product, Sodium Silicate (Water Glass) is a item that can be sold on the open market.

[nbrwn9]

Simply cool :P

[MichaelJE2]

Sure looks like acetylene to me.. Is that black substance calcium carbide by chance?

[knowpub]

@MichaelJE2 NO... its NOT acetylene, and NO its NOT calcium carbide. If you have the ANNOTATIONS turned ON... I show and explain EACH and EVERY chemical in the entire Production of the hydrogen. Its Silicon Metal and Sodium Hydroxide, watch the video with the ANNOTATIONS ON for the full STORY and details.

[mangyscavenger]

Does your book go into a controlled way to keep the reaction going? I see it makes a lot of hydrogen, but for how long? Can that time be extended?

Is this applicable to energy production at the home user level? Gasoline engines (generators) can be converted to run on hydrogen. Can this reaction keep one running for 2-3 hours? How much $ would that cost?

[knowpub]

@mangyscavenger The book we sell in the Hydrogen Section of USH2 (dot) com called The Chemistry and Manufacture of Hydrogen covers in DETAIL the methods and apparatus used for controlling the reaction and making hydrogen. Yeah, it can be economical IF you find a source of ferrosilicon from a mine. You really need to see the diagrams and such in the book, you control the amount of ferrosilicon going into the reactor and it moderates the amount of hydrogen made. I have a DVD by the same name.

[HybridWaterMan2]

Hahaha- Now THAT is hydrogen production! I wish we could get that on our hho generators! I will have to take a look at your books- nicely done.

[Scarl3tBlad3]

Looks to be the same chemicals used in Military Flame-less Ration heaters. They also produce high amounts of H2 gas as a by-product.

[knowpub]

@Scarl3tBlad3 NOPE, 100% different than the flameless military ration heaters....

[Ace011mm]

Nice video!

[blueshadow1996]

Wow..that looks like a great source of energy for pem cells.

[knowpub]

@blueshadow1996 Yes, it would work great or PEM cells, the particles clean up of it very easily and its pure hydrogen.

[lezbriddon]

Can the silicone from this get into the engine, that will upset the lambda sensor to death....

[knowpub]

@lezbriddon There IS NO SILICONE in the process. I said SILICON as in the METAL SILICON, nothing to do with silicone or anything else from Dow Corning.

[megvagyimmartizenyol]

as i tought... hyfrogen is INVISIBLE gas :/

[knowpub]

@megvagyimmartizenyol as the video states, its colored orange by the sodium hydroxide in the reaction.  Its burning "Sodium Orange" just like an orange sodium light.

[Texmurphy51]

How much of the energy liberated by this reaction does it take to mine the two chemicals that go into it?

Do you really think this is a solution to any energy problems?

[knowpub]

@Texmurphy51 that is one of the things about mining....it takes a lot less energy to get it than you get out of it... of course its worth it, of course its part of an energy solution. Especially when you recycle the product chemicals back into the process..its a wonderful chemical cycle.

[Texmurphy51]

@knowpub In order to "recycle" this you have to pump back the energy into it that came off of the reaction, minus loss. This might work as a hydrogen storage device but not to generate hydrogen for use.

You have not posted the amount of energy liberated so there is no way to know if it does take less to mine this than it puts out.

[knowpub]

@Texmurphy51 first, you can mine the ferrosilicon, so that takes care of the energy input, second and more important, you use solar heat to reprocess the byprodcut of the reaction back into two chemicals that will do the reaction again... so what you have is stored hydrogen from solar energy and that hydrogen can then be turned back into electricity. If you want to know the amount of hydrogen produced then watch the attached video called MORE On Demand HUGE Hydrogen Production...

[hhmm89]

can you use sand for this?

[knowpub]

@hhmm89 Please read the annotations....the chemical is made from sand.