Golf V GTI vs BMW E36 320

[radovane36]

FUCK THE VW BMW IS THE MACHINE

[nele954]

l love 1 test

[sony33flo]

wow a tuned BMW !!make a chip in the Golf then... time to say good bye!!!! HELL YEAH

[morph318]

The Golf is a way better car,especially the E30 - 230.. mine stays with a BMW 330 all the way to 150 mph .. hmm,& on the corners the Golf OWNs,eats the BMW alive.. & spits it out.. I've also owned 4 BMW's (only the last 2 shapes).. there's no doubt that they're beatifully designed cars,inside & out,but when it comes to getting a buzz on from handling,front end grip my E30 is in a different league completely...

[morph318]

I've a Mk.5 E30-230 (remapped to 250). Driving fast in a straight line is no test of any car's character - but down the country roads I keep with m8 in his STi,& smash my friend's R32.As for the Mk.3 & 4,these don't deserve to be called GTi's,or even a SE has they're so poor in all areas. Mk.1 &,Mk.2 loved them & ,Mk.5 & 6 - awesome cars; the best hot hatch has it's well owned throne back. The E30,only 1500 cars built gives more fun behind the wheel than cars with twice the bhp.One classic car

[kay19833]

@lardauk really? so where was the golfs ass in the second race ? OWNDED! bmw rulez!

[Cividate86]

I'm for the oldschool.bmw

[WolfsburgSlim]

Excuses, excuses

[187Overkillah]

THE BMW IS A 320 WITH MOTOR CHANGE TO 325 (M50B25) AND BORED TO 2,8LITERS !!!!!!!!!! SO THATS WHAT "BMW E36 320 (M50B28)" MEANS IN THE DISCRIPTION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sultinys]

@187Overkillah YES !

[Trystelune]

anyway, i would take the golf V gti everyday instead of an old E36

[maxsoldier20]

its not spins its wind sound loser

[Akeitsu20]

Golf has turbo..

[ivailo89]

320 ? with 2.8l and tuned from 193 to 246.....

and golf is stock ?

[PorschesSpeed]

1:55, there it is ;)

[Borkos98]

no ale golf to jaka pojemność???

[lascha89]

M50B28 no exist

[TheBMWDude21]

Most E36 owners install a Signature Motoring performance intake kit for around 9HP gain. Cost is a mere $150 or so, best value per HP gain in the E36 line.

Install time if only about 30-45 minutes in most applications. I have one in my 94 325i cabrio.

Crazy nice sound. Most performance guys install a Signature Motoring performance intake kit for around 9HP gain in the E30.

Install time is about 30 min, maybe 45 for two left hands. LOL

[Hinloopen]

How strange... The Golf is fwd but the beemer spins its wheels...

[Sultinys]

@Hinloopen A car has 4 wheels. No traction control and rwd. You think is very hard to spin the wheels with 241 HP? :)

[Jinppa]

@Sultinys

Compared to 230+hp FWD car, yes, it takes full retard to spin wheels more than that Golf.

[dikkesjiet]

you stupid facks, the normal gti has 200, then there are 2 limited editions; 230 nd 240 hp, the 3.2 isn't a gti it's an r32*, 4 wheel driven v6 golf

* r32 is another golf, not to be compared with the gti

[DEADmetal3]

nice

[miralemche]

e36 320 has 110KW (150HP)!

[sssukaPSN]

OWNED!

[wd320gb]

golf v gti pirelli edithion has 250 real not 230

[Sultinys]

@wd320gb wikipedia will help you

[DerTypIHS]

@Sultinys wiki will help u! look at modell 3.2 ! 184KW 250PS greetz from germany!

[DerTypIHS]

@DerTypIHS @Sultinys! Ok i see it my mistake,, its the tfsi with 230 ps

[wd320gb]

@Sultinys no cant help me dyno maybe this golf on a dyno has 250 real horse power

[90397651]

@wd320gb you are wrong don't exist a GTI whit 250hp

[ast79]

@wd320gb epic fail

[zalek178]

@wd320gb pirelli edition has 230hp a golf R32 3.2L V6 250PS

[BAXTSPRCHRGD]

Yeah I find it hard to believe that 14hp more in a car that weighs atleast 150kgs more is gunna make it faster

[DonnnyKhg]

Golf totally sucks , everybody knows :D !!!! bmw is the best :)!

[luki0170]

nie ma silnika M50B28 chyba ze ten zostal rozwiercony z 2.0 do 2.8 ale watpie...

[Sultinys]

@luki0170 bored from 2.5 to 2.8

[luki0170]

@Sultinys to zmien tytul z 320 na 325i ;)

[OG7474]

no blower :D opel sucks :D but BMW AUDI and Golf are great.

[HylianFury]

the gti is almost just as fast as your car but damn its ugly yellow !

where is it now ? ur filiming almosr right ahead of you instead of on the side >.>

by the way it passed you wwas probably rolling right beside you :D

Golf ftw^^i

[PS2Gameplays]

If that's a M50B28 then, it was engine swapped, wasn't it? It makes it a 328i not 320i..

[charlievtb]

what speed?

[pyccak4life]

golf ist eine missgeburt seit golf 3

[Luke1337]

@pyccak4life richtig

[KOVROL]

will you install M3 throttle bodies for the euro ITB?...one of my friends did that and the cars "main rpm(6-700rpm)" was too wrong......

[Sultinys]

@KOVROL I did it already and the power output was lower at the beginning but with the right ECU programming is good

[InVain345]

The golf went to mcdonalds and then came back, overtook you and you stopped because he had to take a happy meal for you right?

;)

Just kidding

[Sultinys]

@InVain345

Bollocks

Golf sux

[InVain345]

Oh come on I was just kidding

They´re both great cars.

I wouldn´t say no to both of them

[blower069]

@Sultinys All the german cars are great ;)

[peWpfLewts]

just because you cant see the golf doesn't mean its not right beside you.

[scorpionreptyle]

I`m planing to add an M50 manifold to my car. In this moment i have supersprint exhaust manifold + remus catback exhaust,M50B25 cylinder head and a custom CAI. After ECU remap,how many horsepower do you think i get?

[Sultinys]

i dont know

depends on ECU and how good it going to be made

[scorpionreptyle]

...you have engine swap i suppose on your car. M52B28 produce 193hp,..M50 is your only mod that give 246Hp?..or you have something else?

[Sultinys]

allinformation is in the description of the video

[cristhianarpeoso]

Lo curioso ademas es que se paran a un lado de la autopista....LOL!

[Texasfreebird1982]

Eins versteh ich nicht,der 320i hat Serie 150 PS und ist durch den Hubraum sowieso ziemlich träge,woher nehmen die echte 246 PS her???????????

Das kriegt ein professioneller Motorentuner mit viel kostenaufwand vielleicht gerade mal so hin!

Ich finde es immer Hammer wenn ich die Leute so mit den PS Zahlen rumschmeißen höre!!!

Meistens wird immer dann blöd gekuckt wenn Sie das Leistungsergebnis auf dem Leistungsprüfstand zu sehen bekommen!

[LotziGTI]

ich glaube du kennst dich mit zahlen eher schlecht aus oder was denkst du was M50b28 heisst!?

[gvierzig]

Ich liebe solche Videos. Krass, dass die 246 PS so sehr Traktion verlieren.

[LotziGTI]

ich kenn die zwar auch nicht aber wer lesen kann ist klar im Vorteil, da steht eindeutig zu dem BMW (in der beschreibung) das es nen M50B28 ist. Nur für die die garkein plan haben, das iss nen 2.8 L Reihen 6 zylinder...

[denizbmw]

Mit einer Ansaugbrücke vom 325 =)

[eyyschbik]

BMW muss man mit hohem drehzahl fahren dann kommt der richtig dann hat der golf keine chance mehr

[TheAscher123]

was den das für ein Vergleich ^^

[dartasweideris]

sultiny cia puse debilu youtube sedi nekreip demesio :D tegul vazineja su golfo poniais :D

[Golfgtiguy]

The bmw 320 is a nice looking car but way over priced . The GTi s value for money in comparison .And it's not a posers car ..

[Sultinys]

oh come on !

Old e36 is over priced?

You are joking

[Golfgtiguy]

Stop making excuses for bmw's .Get a life ,get a VW Gti ;-)

[Sultinys]

I dont want it

[beating2]

stock 2.8 has ~190hp and u r non turbo. so unless its turbocharged there is no way getting extra 56hp with rest of mods. i know i have one

[Sultinys]

you know nothing about performance cams, supersprint exhaust full system, M3 ITB, Vems ECU, bigger injectors?

What do you know? You know only what is stock engine? Hmm, time to read the books and forums about performance

[beating2]

bigger injectors on non turbo/supercharged? bigger ones just reduce the power or u dont gain any because more fuel doesnt mean more power. the ignition process slows down because there is not enough air flow like super/turbo chargers do. ecu adds like max 6 hp, and same with exhaust. doesnt mean u have bigger pipe u get more power. for example u can handle power easily with stock exhaust on 2.5 engine without super/turbo charge up to like 250bhp urs was 2l engine so makes sense

[beating2]

also to gain that power u need porting, polishing and internal engine changes

[Golfgtiguy]

You can't beat a Golf Gti ;-)

[Sultinys]

no, you are wrong, Golf can't beat me :)

[Golfgtiguy]

I think the video over rules your comment..

GTi's rock ;-)

[Sultinys]

you see what you want to see because you have golf

Good luck with your Golf :)

[05027802]

Have you converted it to 6 cylinder 2.8? With some serious N/A mods (including internals) you could see 246 bhp from a 6 pot 6 2.8 but not from a 4 pot 320 no matter what you do the internals. Forced induction would be the only way to achieve much over 200bhp from a 4 pot and even then you would need some serious supporting mods.

[Sultinys]

Oh Jesus! Help this guy!

He knows bmw's since e90 only

My GOD!

Dear chap, go to wikipedia, type bmw e36 series and read

[05027802]

You want me to go to wikipedia and look up the E36? Um, I don't think that will be necessary hahahaha

[Sultinys]

I think it is because you dont know if there were 4 pots 320 in e36 model range or not

learn!

[05027802]

Whoops! lol That was a genuine mistake on my part. But you will have to forgive me, i've been out of BMW for two years so apologies for that :). I would still like to know your mod list though.

Cheers

[siwyr10]

bmw faster :)

[pyccak4life]

golf 5 is so ein hässlicher kugelfisch

[stefancelmaredinroma]

nice video man....very good quality ;)

[wealllovederbycounty]

i wasnt aware that an E36 320i could be tuned to achieve 246bhp?!

[ady0scorpion]

with turbo can! ;)

[wealllovederbycounty]

ahh i see :)

[Sultinys]

that's not a turbo

[dartasweideris]

kokius pakeitimus darei savo 320? :) as turiu 325 94metu coupe po variklio kapitalkes galvoju kaska patobulinti :)

[Sultinys]

viskas parasyta

[Sultinys]

everything was tested on the dyno

read everything and not the last comment

tired of typing the same again and again

[n057828]

Mate a stock mk5 beat a wrx fwd fifth gear! why does porshe win on track with cars with more kw golf is getting to be top of its class! mk6 wow this is a mk5 vw!

[giezetpe]

m50b28 nie ma 2.0 l :)

[trakyaboy08]

hahaha lol mit 150ps das er so ghet , nene lass mal sein jungs wem wollt ihr veraschen was ist den es für eins 325 oder 328

[KorayRuthlessvillian]

such nice roads

[GodSaveDaOs]

BMW has open window...

[Sultinys]

no

camera is outside

[princesxella]

fake gold 5 gti sux is not winning

[hythekiller]

super video super wagen top beim zweiten start hat der keine chance sehr gut ich würde das erste versuch herausschneiden

sehr gut dein 2,8 :-)

[Sultinys]

danke

[Flori24]

Jetzt kommen wieder die BMW Fans und sagen ,das der Wind oder die Brotkrümel auf der Rücksitzbank schuld sind ;))

[Sultinys]

Lies den Text des Videos

[potzee81]

dann fang ich mal als bmw fan an. der vergleich hingt arg. der 320 als e36 hat nur 150ps. ;-)

ist aber typisch, wir müssen alle die bösen bmw´s verblasen.

seitdem die e36er so billig zu kaufen sind gibts bei bmw genauso hohle golf fritzen wie bei vw.

[richly1988]

320i with that bhp what you done to it i got a standard 325i mspec n its only 190 bhp

[Sultinys]

what?

[richly1988]

what do u mean what. you state your bmw 320 has 246 bhp. i asked what work you have done to it to getting those power gains. because i own a bmw 325i m spec which is 190 bhp as standard.

[Sultinys]

I see...

Engine M50B25, performance cams, 2.8 L crankshaft and pistons, bigger injectors 200 ccm, bigger compression ratio.

Now installing Euro M3 ITB and VEMS and I think I will gain more hp

[richly1988]

oh i see nice work there im focusing on my exterior looks of the car at the moment. but i have taken on board what you have does as eventually mine will bea track car woop. thanks for the replies and video

[nickolaus11]

ungleicher vergleich ..stupit

[OBUVWGTI]

good golf ehheeheheh

[MDF0815]

Ja irgendwie paßt da was nicht. M50 und 2,8??

Mir scheint das ein normaler 320i zu sein der nie im Leben ne Chance hat. Warum nicht 123d? Der hat 204 PS...

[Sultinys]

Umbau Umbau...

passt alles gut

[Musketier84]

echt lächerlicher Test! Man brauch nie einen 320er, egal ob E30, E36, E46 gegen einen Golf V GTI testen. Der BMW ist einfach nur eine lahme Krücke! Außerdem ist das ganze Gelaber von den Umbauten widersprüchlich!

[mybimmerishot]

You got to look at the tach when you gun the BMW, otherwise you will wreck the engine. It is a stick

[Sultinys]

the engine is already non stock

[johnkimble555]

Both of you need to chip your cars.

[Sultinys]

lol :)

[Almandino]

is it vanos engine or non vanos m50?

[Sultinys]

M50B25

non vanos

[jerry328i]

Did u Dyno your car or the 246hp is an estimate ? also, do u have lsd ?

cus if u installed the proper ZF transmission from a 328i when u did the engine swap and mated it with a proper ratio lsd u would rape that Golf if ur really pushing 246hp.

[Sultinys]

Yes, I did dyno many times to confirm my results and try two different dynos

My gearbox is from 323ti

In the long run I am sure I could defeat the Gold but from the standing start I doubt because I dont have launch control

[Golfgtiguy]

Should have bought the Golf GTI ..!

[Trystelune]

what are the mod on the bmw ?

[Sultinys]

2.8 conversion with performance cams, bigger injectors, ported head, full supersprint exhaust

[Sultinys]

why? I don't need it

[tautvydasv]

Are you going to do a remap? I think it would be better to it after your remap.

[Golfgtiguy]

You can't beat a Golf Gti !

[Sultinys]

no, GTI without mods cant beat me

[tautvydasv]

With only a remap it would easilly beat you

[Sultinys]

yo Tuti,

we talk about standard Pirelli

[tautvydasv]

I just added, that gti with only a remap will easilly beat that bmw.

230ps 1450kg vs 246ps 1300kg, so looking at these numbers bmw should easilly beat golf, however in reality it was different.

[Sultinys]

No Tuti,

actual weight of my car is about 1380 kg

[tautvydasv]

google says that 320 e36 weights 1270kg

[Sultinys]

yeah

google says one thing and my manual OEM BMW book says another. Remember, only the name is left of 320.

[tautvydasv]

Maybe you would like to try your moded bmw vs golf with remap ?

[Sultinys]

yes, sure why not

+5 HP is not a modification

[tautvydasv]

Deal, when and where. Please just do not forget your camera.

[Sultinys]

when there will be dry

I can at anytime

[doogeeunit]

What mods does the 328 have to give it 246 hp anyway?

[Sultinys]

that guy is me :)

Mods: 2.8 crankshaft and pistons, bigger fule injectores, performance camshafts, full supersprint exhaust system

[doogeeunit]

Guy in the bmw can't drive :S

Hits and stays at the rev limiter for a whole second.

[doogeeunit]

sorry, didn't realize the road was wet.