I am just sick and tired of seeing WWE and TNA bringing shit back that used to be cool 10 fuckin years ago. How many more watered down versions of past stables and tag teams do we need? I got my fill of old, boring, watered down stables when they brought back D-Geriatric X. We don't need anymore. I bet we'll see a new DX or nWo incarnation in 2020, smh.
@WrestlingBC11 dude dx is awsome fans want dx back did you here them back befor 2006 when ti get clsoer to 2006 you here them sya dx dx dx we wnat dx dam torll
i like the story behind it, but i agree with you they took far too long to jump the rail.
not sure where they are going to go with this, i personally think its a test to see if the ECW audiance which was the large audiance that purchased the first one night stand PPV will tune in to see this style again.
They need to wholesale fire all of their writers. Hell I'd even hire you as a writer for a storyline or two over the TNA guys. And the WWE guys for that matter....glad I only watch old school wrestling now.
Bill i have asked this to you before and you still have not answered me why dont R. O.H come on regular tv like usa network or spike tv why do they hide in the internet only and want a bigger fan base?
@readyeddie1966 Pro wrestling isn't popular enough to have a third wrestling compant go mainstream. if you have wwe and tna who are both losing ppv buyrates and ratings than no tv company will bring in another mainstream wrestling company. There's no demand so there doesn't need to be a supply.
I absolutely hate the ECW invasion theres no story behind it all it is is 4 former ECW originals showing up to a TNA show TNA claims there the alternative but yet they want to be exactly like the main company ROH is the best Pro Wrestling company in the world i can't wait for ROH Glory By Honor X its going to be in NYC!
ALL wrestling titles are props. Everything's scripted and they're told who gets the titles. Stop comparing a team's first tag title reign at a meaningless PPV to Shawn Michaels winning his first WORLD title at WRESTLEMANIA.
@whydontweberealhere No dude it makes sense. What TNA fails to do is tell a fucking story for its matches. Its massively stupid that they just won that shit without any hype and any build up. That's what he's getting at. If it was really such a special moment they would ave built the match up and not throw it together at like the last fucking second or whatever they did. They would have created a story. Saying all wrestling titles are "props" has nothing to do with anything kid.
You're hitting a lot of good points. I said it on Doug's video...the one thing that WWE does well is harp on their own legacy and promote the importance of their titles. Whether they treat them as such is a different story, but I feel like TNA would be doing themselves a favor by stressing the importance of each of their titles
I agree, that's exactly how they should've booked ECW's invasion. It was a dead giveaway for about a month that it was going to happen. TNA has been doing a horrible job lately with surprises. When they sign someone, instead of letting the person debut and it be a shocking event, they go on their website and promise a big "Surprise," and then it turns out to be Tommy Dreamer and there's a big letdown because you built up a "HUGE SUPRISE." Woulda been better had it just happened w/out warning
Ure too right man, once again you guys speak the truth. Glad to see ye are still doing wrestling videos. I feel ye guys are the voice of wrestling on the internet, and a strong vice dat gets heard world wide.. Please keep doing these videos guys i feel ye make a difference on wrestling here on youtube..
tell me where these guys/girls are? amazing red daniels eric young hamada homicide jimmy hart magnus odb orlando jordon rob terry rosie hall waltman shark boy tomko and if i missed some, im sorry cause there is a big list already.
without looking it up, tell me all the TNA title holders right now.
Every title holder without looking it up.
now, if u watch tna each week, and it's hard for u, (like it is for me) than TNA is not doing their job right. but than yet again, what have they done right latley?
@Headliner187 because look what One night stand led too =S sorry but are you fucking retarded don't you remember that disgrace on ScFi ECW cant be recreated
@murray1234567891011 What the hell are you talking about? One Night Stand got a great buy-rate, so TNA are doing the same thing and hoping to get a good buy-rate. How does the make ME retarded? I didn't say anything at all about ECW on SyFy.
@Headliner187 one night stand was a good thing that gotten taken to far and look what it created. that's why this tna thing cant end well. ECW is gone people need to accept it.
exactly. probably the most right you've been in a video. an invasion angle with ECW means nothing to only but a few hardcore fans. its just another part of the giant clusterfuck TNA has become
@IrishMetal I totally agree with you. These ECW guys had the same shot in 2005 at One Night Stand, and this just seems like TNA trying to one-up WWE, with this "we can do an ECW pay per view better than you!" mentality that TNA has. The only real way to fix TNA is 2 fold. A. Fire Russo and B. Hire Heyman. But that is just my opinion.
TNA do put on some decent matches but don't really build them up and advertise them like they should be. With this ECW invasion (if you want to call it that) TNA are paying out money, but why not put that money and hire a creative or a few marketing guys who can help get TNA name out there.
Now TNA Ratings have been increasing, I just don't hope they think things are going well that they need to make no changes. I would still watch TNA over WWE anytime!
I mostly agree with you man...but when i saw that ECW 'attack', the first thing I thought was like:"Omg, the're copying WWE"...It really reminds me of the NXT attack on Cena some time ago...
Too be honest with you I have hated being a wrestling fan for awhile now. But ROH is good wrestling I will give you that just the commentators ruin it for me they are boring. TNA has been lacking and I have really not cared but this ecw angle has got back some interest. But wrestling after all these years when I was very young to now has really let me down. I enjoy MMA though.
I have watched you long enough to know you switch loyalty to a company more than you change your socks. I like ROH but you sound like they are perfect. But you do any company. It makes you guys sound like when a company lets you down you support the next down. And I really enjoy ROH and agreed with you on alot of things. Just see an on going pattern here. And no one don't give me the whole "They go where the best wrestling is" Bet they have no idea what DGUSA is, Well till ROH lets them down.
@EternalDeathSavior Okay, we started doing videos in late '06 and I supported TNA when everyone was shitting on the product all the way through '09. I had my ups & downs with the company, but ultimately was hoping for consistency with the product which we never got. As fans we took our airplane & road trips, spent money on merchandise, and plugged the hell out of the product because we believed they were the future of the industry.
@rvdtito4life In 2008, I started investing more of my time getting to know the product and talent in Ring of Honor. I had the opportunity to see them live which is when I became a true fan of ROH. But according to you, I switch "wrestling companies" more than I switch socks, but the bottom line is I have the right to change my opinion after sacrificing my time, my effort, and my money in a product that has consistently let me down for several years.
@rvdtito4life Ultimately, I see that TNA is trying to make some changes. Sting, OJ, The Band, JJ are no focuses on television. I also recognize TNA is having some good matches with Kurt Angle & whoever he faces, MCMG & Beer Money, etc. I appreciate that, but the biggest change that needs to happen isn't out in that ring. It's behind the scenes. It's the creative & marketing direction of TNA. When was the last time you felt a PPV was must-see TV? I haven't felt that in a very long time.
the action in roh is awesome no question but theyre never gonna be selling out msg cause noone outside of wrestling fans sees it as anything but entertainment i wish they did but they dont!! going by the fans reaction i.e the ec dub chants whenevr those guys walked out,i would say they are still popular!! richards,dreamer,raven,rhyno can all still go!!did you see the promo with mcmg after the ppv? the guns gave a real heartfelt interview of what the belts mean!! 32 hour drive to see roh? DAMN
TNA > WCW. Just like in WCW, in TNA all of the talented stars can't get past the cluster fuck that is the main eventers. They have segments that don't make sense, and they are constantly dropping the ball on stuff.
Well I do think the invasion has been recycled wayy to much. But TNA is still a growing company and of course they will make mistakes, No company is perfect, but YES Ring of Honor where I live? I can take the train lol.
@AttitudeEra4life459 the MCMG have been a largely popular tag team in TNA for a very long time now, but had never captured the gold. They finally win it in a match that didn't have the best build up and wasn't really put over that they had finally won it in a big way, it sort of just went over like any match on impact, besides the crowd making SOME noise. i think that's what he meant
@shrekber well that's certainly a problem in itself. they barely even leave the impact zone anymore so its always in front of the same crowd. to be quite honest im not even interested in buying their ppvs when its just in the impact zone. its basically what you just get on impact.
I respect your opinion and you are right that TNA lacks meanings for their belts but that doesn't mean that the show isn't enjoyable. I enjoy impact and I am happy with the ECW invasion because I love the company ECW with all my heart. A LOT of people enjoy TNA and WWE now in days. Yes we all know the companies have problems and it can be FRUSTRATING but are we wrong for liking them? not in my mind because I have a different point of view than most fans.
so no one just wants to be entertained? all that matters anymore is the way a company does business and if you think its the right way? I guess i just don't get it. do i think TNA should be promoting ladder matches like they had on impact better? sure, but that wouldn't make it anymore fun to watch.
@splitz79 I diagree. This was NOT "the invasion. she "invited them". what is the point of this "sudden attack" then? People need to give it some time.
@TNAFutureofWrestling i dont know why I am responding with a name like that....but come on now.... if you cant see why younger is better then older then you need to get a reality check.
@jim6700 Look Jackass, I was asking in general. It varies on who is better between the young & old, like for example, Kurt Angle is better than over 95% of the "young" guys in TNA, he may just be better than all of them. So just because your "young" doesn't mean your better. If you took out all of the people in WWE & TNA who ARE NOT "young", that would be a bad thing. If you cant see that, then you need a reality check
@jim6700 And uh, the name has nothing to do with it idiot, because when I asked the question, I was asking in general, not just in TNA's case, but in all companies case. Dont comment when you dont even know what your talking about.
"i dont know why I am responding with a name like that"
They should of have the ECW guys invade right away and not waited for a month later. Does any one know why they edited out so much at the brawl at the end of Impact?
I'd like to bunch this faggot nerd right in the mouth, his whole life revolves around wrestling, he has no life besides watching wrestling and makes all these videos crying and screaming about wrestling with his annoying screeching voice, pimpled face and horrible hair.
@iliketoastsonsunday Me neither. The ROH show he's going to is 32 hours away from him and just 30 minutes away from me and yet I'm still not going lol
i like NXT invasion angle over ECW angle. Its about time WWE finally gave orton the right push. Orton is becoming huge and they are trying to make him the next big star of the company, so incase something happens to cena, we have Orton. Just like they had Austin and Rock. Its also great to see Evan Bourne being pushed, I really like Bourne now, even Sheamus is getting pushed.
I see what you mean bro. The over all product has changed so much in just one year and its still changing. The writing/booking is all over the place and TNA just keeps digging they self into a whole, instead of trying to climb there way out. You said it best, from january til now wit this ECW angle, they have changed so man damn times it doest make since. They just need a new writing/booking team and really needs to focus on stuff the long run and not just hot shotting stuff all the time.
New promotional material sent out for TNA's ECW-themed August PPV has a new name for the show - Hardcore Justice: One Last Stand. A new commercial for the show features fans chanting "ECW." It will be interesting to see how WWE reacts, if they do at all, to TNA using the ECW name to promote their product.
Now, mind you, I wouldn't have minded at all them building it up the way you suggested, but I have no problem with how it went down, either. Unpredictability for the sheer sake of unpredictability is normally not the best idea nor decision, but in this case, I feel it worked just fine and, more importantly, is a sensible thing to have leading up to the conclusion. There's usually more than 1 way of looking at things, is basically my point here.
Had they built-up towards the MCMG-BM match at VR with the main theme being The Guns' long road & struggle towards becoming champions... don't you think that would have made them winning the bout just a bit too predictable? The victory could've been made to appear more special had they gone that route beforehand, sure.. but the uncertainty of them walking out champions added to the excitement factor of it when it ocurred, too.
it's tna's last ditch effort to actually do something big for tna, what did hogan do... nothing, what did, ric do,,, nothing Dixie doesn't know what she is doing
thank you theirs a bunch of haters saying that ECW has risen AGAIN bs , they get pissed cause i said its been done before and now theyre just trying to redo whats been done, and ECW is officially D-E-A-D DEAD, and now they wanna revive it as their own little faction
@SiloNova25 Because its a struggle to find positives, you know its funny that the 2 biggest TNA marks I'd ever seen(until TNATheFutureOfWrestling came out of his cave) completely turned on the product, that should give people an indication as to were this company is headed, their 2 biggest fans who were actually the voice of TNAs fanbase(on their own youtube account & TNAs) can't stand the company anymore.
@Animation420 Most of the TNA fans who now hate the company, are mainly the ones who have been watching TNA since the early days. I have argued with TNA bashers before, and once they bring up the point saying "TNA should be original like it was back in 2005", thats when I stop arguing with them because they are the ones holding TNA down and they're the ones wanting it to be a super Indy promotion again. They wanted TNA to grow, but when they try, they complain. So I don't waste my time no more.
@SiloNova25 Exactly, people actually go so far as to say that TNA show be more like ROH, ROH, WHAT. The same people who accuse TNA of needing to find "their own identity" (even though they have their own identity), are saying that TNA's identity should be similar to ROH, lol, how does that sound?, it sounds hypocritical, and on top of that, that would be taking the company backwards, if they went back to the early days of TNA
@TNAFutureofWrestling You must be the only person that has replied to me here on youtube without saying:
"OH YAEH WEL TNA NOT ORIGNALZ ITZ WCW 2.0 SUKAZ!!!1!!1"
Lol.
You must be one of the few on this site that actually see's through the criticism TNA receives. Lets just face it, no matter what TNA does, the whole of the IWC will continue to bash there accomplishments and/or complain about how they've copied something from the 90's.
@TNAFutureofWrestling ''The same people who accuse TNA of needing to find "their own identity" (even though they have their own identity), are saying that TNA's identity should be similar to ROH, lol'' Show me where I said they needed to be like ROH and then tell me what exactly makes them different from other promotions we have seen in the last 15 years that supports your comment ''even though they have their own identity''.
@Animation420 Never pointed you out single handedly, did I?, so you fail. There are many people out there who claimed TNA should be more like ROH, thats no mystery. What doesn't separate them from any other wrestling company?, they have their own identity by default. Until TNA makes it known that they want to be the new/next WCW, ECW, WWE, etc, then you cant say they dont have their own identity. Its all opinion if you want to put it that way, and everyone has one, its not fact though
@SiloNova25 How is having a weekly tv show on Spike and running monthly ppvs being a super indy show? TNA is running more house shows now and thats the only difference in growth since 2005/6.
@Animation420 Thats what I mean. An Indy show, with PPV's and a TV deal. Thus, super Indy. Thats what people are wanting it to go back to. A lot of people who used to be TNA fans, who now hate it, are the ones that say TNA should go back to what it used to be. Where it was just high spots here and there and not much else. But now TNA has got in more drama, more things happening, and yet, they complain.
@SiloNova25 Because they stopped being original and completely changed the companies direction, it was growing at a rapid rate back in 2005/6 and then when they started their creative change their growth completely stalled. I don't exactly get your point ''Thats what I mean. An Indy show, with PPV's and a TV deal. Thus, super Indy'' What is it in your opinion that seperates indy from mainsteam?
@Animation420 My point is, TNA wouldn't have gotten as big as they would like to if they just stuck to the same direction they had those years ago. Everyone likes a mix of both, good storylines and good wrestling. TNA was mainly just plain good wrestling back then, and that was it.
@SiloNova25 What do you consider ''good sroylines''. Back in 2006 you had the Stings return storyline(VERY underrated) and LAX storyline(both pre-Russo) both of those were better than anything I've seen Russo do since hes been in TNA.
@Animation420 I consider what is going on right now "good storylines". the mysterious "they" of Abyss, Ric's "Fortune", The battle of the wrestling style between Kendrick and Douglas, TBP storyline, etc. You see what I mean? Negatives. Thats all people like you talk about.
@SiloNova25 I talk about negatives bacause they stick in my mind more than the positives, like Victory Road, I watched it and enjoyed Beer Money vs MCMG but eveything else just didn't do it for me. I don't like any of those supposed ''storylines''. The ''they'' of Abyss was marred by the fact they have changed him gimmick 3 times this year, freaky 1. Man-Child, 2. Hogan, ring wearing wannabe, 3. bat weilding wack job. I just don't buy the charcter anymore so I don't buy the ''storyline''.
@Animation420 As for the Douglas/Kendrick storyline, I don't like it one bit because they are booking Douglas' wrestling style as being ''boring'' for the X-Division which cheapens his wrstling ability when he could be something different for the division they are just building up him losing the belt to highflyer. The knockouts=Divas, don't care. I do like Flairs stable but everything surrounding it makes me uninterested.
@TNAFutureofWrestling The X-Division was a division that we had never seen in wrestling before it was mostly just cruiserweights but then Samoa Joe came into the fold and it became about being ''No Limits'', a no limit division based on athleticism. Angles like the ones I mentioned above weren't as over the top and came off more real and personal. Most importantly they stuck to their strenghts which is something they haven't done in years.
@Animation420 LAX was not original, Sting returning was not original, X Division being a modified cruiserweight division is somewhat original just for the simple fact that you can be any size. Just about everything in wrestling is no longer original, because most things have been done before in some form or fashion.
@Animation420 That makes no sense, he likes it deep down, just as everyone else who takes the time to watch it. If he didn't like it, he wouldn't waste his time watching. That goes for everyone & every wrestling promotion
@Animation420 Oh, and there is one big positive. Former ECW fans could be drawn in to this PPV to see the ECW originals once more. Then they realise that a promotion called TNA set this thing up, so they check them out, then they realise TNA is quite damn good, so they become TNA fans. Obviously not everyone will just convert to TNA fans, but you know what I'm saying. Thats why I hate it when people bash TNA without using common sense. Its upto TNA to advertise this PPV well to get the word out.
Its not an invasion if its just a few guys preventing some maniac from re-arranging their buddy's face with a fuckin 2x4 covered in nails. No-one grabbed a mic and proclaimed we're taking over. Those 4 ECW guys have been at 4 or 5 tvs and 1 ppv and the first time they get involved is when their friend is in serious danger. How more obvious does it have to be?!
Thank you for this. I missed the invasion and I don't really care right now. Wrestling has been slipping for me so I'm glad I heard of ROH a couple of months ago.
Like you said, there's no build ups to title matches anymore. TNA just changes champs every other week for the most part and WWE gives titles to the same four or five guys, which is their base roster now apparently.
@Animation420 yeah that wasnt that smart of them even though they already had a plan b if they couldnt sign them which seems like they really didnt think he would come in
Not every title win is going to have an HBK type build up, lol, if anything, the MCMG tag title win was 1 of the most anticipated title wins in a long time as far as mainstream wrestling goes
How was it not a surprise when ECW attacked Abyss instead of RVD when everything was leading to Abyss joining ECW with his "they are coming" promos?, I dont get that part, you obviously are not enjoying TNA because they are not giving you what you want, and thats too bad I guess, but give the angle credit
TNA has an identitly crisis, do they want to be a poor mans attitude era even though WWE proved in 2002/3 that fans wern't into that stuff anymore? Do they want to be a poor mans WCW by bringing in big WWE names and not pushing their own stars aswell as pushing former WCW stars and WCW storylines(The Band=NWO)? Or do they want to be an ECW rip-off pushing guys who were stars of that promotion 10+ years ago? TNA needs to be original and create their own identity if the want to grow. TNA sucks.
@TNAFutureofWrestling Because of the Invasion, it killed peoples interest and when they tried to re-create the attitude era(like TNA is doing now) nobody was interested. TNA is trying to re-create it but nobody cares, they sacrificed their die-hard fans to gain casual fans and its given them an extra 0.1/2 in ratings but killed their ppv buyrates since the diehards will order the ppvs and support your promotion but the casual fans could care less about paying money to see wrestling.
I'm only going on whats been said and thats more conformation than you can give to the contrary. Also your a mark so I really have no interest in talking to you. All you do is spend you days trolling the net defending TNA, do they pay you or something? Because defending TNA is a full time job since evryone hates it, oh wait now your going to brag about their 1.0 rating. Do you disagree with TNA having an identity crisis? Wait you don't because TNA is perfect. TNA sucks so fuck off troll.
@Animation420 Then dont reply to me than, I could care less. Like I said, prove to me the PPV buyrates, if you cant do so, than how can you talk about them as if its fact?, im no mark, im a wrestling fan. How am i a troll just because I am going against what you say?, lol, sad. I never said TNA was perfect, did I?, douche, stop being delusional, and know what your talking about before you speak.
@TNAFutureofWrestling I do know what I'm talking about, ever single negative TNA vid I see you jump at the chance to slurp TNA, ''oh no it makes sense for them to do this because blah blah blah''. Your a mark dude, if you defend one promotion to the ground(while bashing others) and beleive everyone who talks negatively about it is
Great video and I like your reasoning.
andywong4 1 year ago
This guy is right
p.s. fuck wee and its pg rating, I'm not seeing wwe till its bac to tv14
chumplaz 1 year ago
@chumplaz
You talkin' about Bill, or, what I was saying about how sucking WWE is?
tthomaselli2 1 year ago
I am just sick and tired of seeing WWE and TNA bringing shit back that used to be cool 10 fuckin years ago. How many more watered down versions of past stables and tag teams do we need? I got my fill of old, boring, watered down stables when they brought back D-Geriatric X. We don't need anymore. I bet we'll see a new DX or nWo incarnation in 2020, smh.
WrestlingBC11 1 year ago
@WrestlingBC11 dude dx is awsome fans want dx back did you here them back befor 2006 when ti get clsoer to 2006 you here them sya dx dx dx we wnat dx dam torll
ssjgotenks2009 6 months ago
TNA: "It's just a goddamn mess!" Pretty much nailed that one, man... :-)
ThexNextxReveur 1 year ago
ecfnw ecw ecw ecw ecw ecw rocks so fu
pillarvskidsintheway 1 year ago
This angle is going to be amazing.
THEBILLANDBILLSHOW 1 year ago
3:51.; What'd Bill say?
tthomaselli2 1 year ago 2
@TheFrankTT
When ECW really went to hell was in Mid-2006 when 'ECW On Sci-Fi' was thought up.
tthomaselli2 1 year ago 3
Out of the 'ECW Invades TNA' story-line in TNA, or, the 'Guest Host On 'RAW'' segment in WWE, I'd rather see the ECW/TNA routine.
tthomaselli2 1 year ago 5
@tthomaselli2 No one cares about pushing Old people :P Im TNA fan but I hate to see Hogan vs flair, Old people beat young guys!
thaiboypsp3000 1 year ago
wwe is shit dunno how it beats tna so much when tna is better
jobber25v 1 year ago
@TheFrankTT
WWE must've been on crack when they thought up 'ECW On Sci-Fi'.; I don't want that, again.
tthomaselli2 1 year ago
Both TNA and WWE suck these days! I have just gave up on mainstream pro wrestling altogether!
BIGDANNIEKAHUNA 1 year ago
@BIGDANNIEKAHUNA
TNA's better than WWE, at this point.
tthomaselli2 1 year ago
i like the story behind it, but i agree with you they took far too long to jump the rail.
not sure where they are going to go with this, i personally think its a test to see if the ECW audiance which was the large audiance that purchased the first one night stand PPV will tune in to see this style again.
they need to promote it more.
rossthebassmonster 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
No one cares.
deathpgt 1 year ago
How can they have any mention of ECW when wwe owns every intillectual property and copyright?
GenerationXeroFilms 1 year ago
piece of celery to a fat person... lol
natedoggcata 1 year ago
ecw whent out in 2009
jorge12652 1 year ago
@jorge12652 The real ECW went out in 2001, not that boring re-hash WWE made.
Guyver5182 1 year ago
@Guyver5182
Agreed.
tthomaselli2 1 year ago
u made some good points bill keep up the good work my friend
mh13382 1 year ago
They need to wholesale fire all of their writers. Hell I'd even hire you as a writer for a storyline or two over the TNA guys. And the WWE guys for that matter....glad I only watch old school wrestling now.
ShadowStalker999 1 year ago
Bill i have asked this to you before and you still have not answered me why dont R. O.H come on regular tv like usa network or spike tv why do they hide in the internet only and want a bigger fan base?
readyeddie1966 1 year ago
@readyeddie1966 Pro wrestling isn't popular enough to have a third wrestling compant go mainstream. if you have wwe and tna who are both losing ppv buyrates and ratings than no tv company will bring in another mainstream wrestling company. There's no demand so there doesn't need to be a supply.
madmanco17 1 year ago
I absolutely hate the ECW invasion theres no story behind it all it is is 4 former ECW originals showing up to a TNA show TNA claims there the alternative but yet they want to be exactly like the main company ROH is the best Pro Wrestling company in the world i can't wait for ROH Glory By Honor X its going to be in NYC!
WrestlingsSaviour 1 year ago
Here's a hint buddy...ready?
ALL wrestling titles are props. Everything's scripted and they're told who gets the titles. Stop comparing a team's first tag title reign at a meaningless PPV to Shawn Michaels winning his first WORLD title at WRESTLEMANIA.
whydontweberealhere 1 year ago
@whydontweberealhere No dude it makes sense. What TNA fails to do is tell a fucking story for its matches. Its massively stupid that they just won that shit without any hype and any build up. That's what he's getting at. If it was really such a special moment they would ave built the match up and not throw it together at like the last fucking second or whatever they did. They would have created a story. Saying all wrestling titles are "props" has nothing to do with anything kid.
ShadowStalker999 1 year ago
good video, good points, see you at the ROH show
mrgunz3 1 year ago
You're hitting a lot of good points. I said it on Doug's video...the one thing that WWE does well is harp on their own legacy and promote the importance of their titles. Whether they treat them as such is a different story, but I feel like TNA would be doing themselves a favor by stressing the importance of each of their titles
bighustle 1 year ago
I agree, that's exactly how they should've booked ECW's invasion. It was a dead giveaway for about a month that it was going to happen. TNA has been doing a horrible job lately with surprises. When they sign someone, instead of letting the person debut and it be a shocking event, they go on their website and promise a big "Surprise," and then it turns out to be Tommy Dreamer and there's a big letdown because you built up a "HUGE SUPRISE." Woulda been better had it just happened w/out warning
bighustle 1 year ago
@bighustle this was NOT an invasion... what the hell is wrong with you people?
nstopdriver 1 year ago
I'm overweight. And I'll have you know I love celery, jackass!
TheTripleB 1 year ago
rohbot right here. u aint got shit on ur homie
JOESGONNAKILLY0U 1 year ago
Ure too right man, once again you guys speak the truth. Glad to see ye are still doing wrestling videos. I feel ye guys are the voice of wrestling on the internet, and a strong vice dat gets heard world wide.. Please keep doing these videos guys i feel ye make a difference on wrestling here on youtube..
jamietna1 1 year ago
kingblingbla 1 year ago
without looking it up, tell me all the TNA title holders right now.
Every title holder without looking it up.
now, if u watch tna each week, and it's hard for u, (like it is for me) than TNA is not doing their job right. but than yet again, what have they done right latley?
kingblingbla 1 year ago
@kingblingbla rvd /terry/ mcmg /williams /angelina/ bp
shrekber 1 year ago
way less than 10,000 people paid to see Victory road
no one even streamed it for free.
that's how bad victory road did.
kingblingbla 1 year ago
One Night Stand did a great buy-rate so why not TNA give it a shot and see if they can get a decent one?
Headliner187 1 year ago
@Headliner187 because look what One night stand led too =S sorry but are you fucking retarded don't you remember that disgrace on ScFi ECW cant be recreated
murray1234567891011 1 year ago
@murray1234567891011 What the hell are you talking about? One Night Stand got a great buy-rate, so TNA are doing the same thing and hoping to get a good buy-rate. How does the make ME retarded? I didn't say anything at all about ECW on SyFy.
Headliner187 1 year ago
@Headliner187 one night stand was a good thing that gotten taken to far and look what it created. that's why this tna thing cant end well. ECW is gone people need to accept it.
murray1234567891011 1 year ago
exactly. probably the most right you've been in a video. an invasion angle with ECW means nothing to only but a few hardcore fans. its just another part of the giant clusterfuck TNA has become
IrishMetal 1 year ago
@IrishMetal I totally agree with you. These ECW guys had the same shot in 2005 at One Night Stand, and this just seems like TNA trying to one-up WWE, with this "we can do an ECW pay per view better than you!" mentality that TNA has. The only real way to fix TNA is 2 fold. A. Fire Russo and B. Hire Heyman. But that is just my opinion.
Vindicator18 1 year ago
Was the shot at ROHStyles neccessary? I mean, how do you know he doesn't want to eat celary?
Headliner187 1 year ago
your going to new york on september 11th? i bet the mood in the city that day will be loads of fun!
nickyj82 1 year ago
TNA do put on some decent matches but don't really build them up and advertise them like they should be. With this ECW invasion (if you want to call it that) TNA are paying out money, but why not put that money and hire a creative or a few marketing guys who can help get TNA name out there.
Now TNA Ratings have been increasing, I just don't hope they think things are going well that they need to make no changes. I would still watch TNA over WWE anytime!
philcanavan 1 year ago
I mostly agree with you man...but when i saw that ECW 'attack', the first thing I thought was like:"Omg, the're copying WWE"...It really reminds me of the NXT attack on Cena some time ago...
Rumci666 1 year ago
Too be honest with you I have hated being a wrestling fan for awhile now. But ROH is good wrestling I will give you that just the commentators ruin it for me they are boring. TNA has been lacking and I have really not cared but this ecw angle has got back some interest. But wrestling after all these years when I was very young to now has really let me down. I enjoy MMA though.
Shriekspear 1 year ago
I have watched you long enough to know you switch loyalty to a company more than you change your socks. I like ROH but you sound like they are perfect. But you do any company. It makes you guys sound like when a company lets you down you support the next down. And I really enjoy ROH and agreed with you on alot of things. Just see an on going pattern here. And no one don't give me the whole "They go where the best wrestling is" Bet they have no idea what DGUSA is, Well till ROH lets them down.
EternalDeathSavior 1 year ago
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@EternalDeathSavior Okay, we started doing videos in late '06 and I supported TNA when everyone was shitting on the product all the way through '09. I had my ups & downs with the company, but ultimately was hoping for consistency with the product which we never got. As fans we took our airplane & road trips, spent money on merchandise, and plugged the hell out of the product because we believed they were the future of the industry.
rvdtito4life 1 year ago
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@rvdtito4life In 2008, I started investing more of my time getting to know the product and talent in Ring of Honor. I had the opportunity to see them live which is when I became a true fan of ROH. But according to you, I switch "wrestling companies" more than I switch socks, but the bottom line is I have the right to change my opinion after sacrificing my time, my effort, and my money in a product that has consistently let me down for several years.
rvdtito4life 1 year ago
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@rvdtito4life Ultimately, I see that TNA is trying to make some changes. Sting, OJ, The Band, JJ are no focuses on television. I also recognize TNA is having some good matches with Kurt Angle & whoever he faces, MCMG & Beer Money, etc. I appreciate that, but the biggest change that needs to happen isn't out in that ring. It's behind the scenes. It's the creative & marketing direction of TNA. When was the last time you felt a PPV was must-see TV? I haven't felt that in a very long time.
rvdtito4life 1 year ago
@rvdtito4life And you do that with ROH when before you laughed at it.
EternalDeathSavior 1 year ago
SHUT UP HICK
dizzybone2000 1 year ago
the action in roh is awesome no question but theyre never gonna be selling out msg cause noone outside of wrestling fans sees it as anything but entertainment i wish they did but they dont!! going by the fans reaction i.e the ec dub chants whenevr those guys walked out,i would say they are still popular!! richards,dreamer,raven,rhyno can all still go!!did you see the promo with mcmg after the ppv? the guns gave a real heartfelt interview of what the belts mean!! 32 hour drive to see roh? DAMN
warriorsleftnut 1 year ago
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TNA > WCW. Just like in WCW, in TNA all of the talented stars can't get past the cluster fuck that is the main eventers. They have segments that don't make sense, and they are constantly dropping the ball on stuff.
cmaci8 1 year ago
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I gave up on TNA 4 months ago.
sonofsarek 1 year ago
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Fuck tna
d731andre 1 year ago
Damn...32 hour drive to New York? Good luck and have fun.
TheDrew4288 1 year ago
One Night Stand....more like One Last Paycheck
Dragonblack90 1 year ago
@Dragonblack90 HA!!!!
Syck589 1 year ago
Sometimes you remind me of my friend kenny, and as much as i like him sometime i just want to slap the shit out of him............
texanslive 1 year ago
@texanslive lol excellent commment i salute u!!
warriorsleftnut 1 year ago
Well I do think the invasion has been recycled wayy to much. But TNA is still a growing company and of course they will make mistakes, No company is perfect, but YES Ring of Honor where I live? I can take the train lol.
Gio447788 1 year ago
old skool ECW is the shit & im happy they r in TNA. then stop watching TNA. i use to be 100% in ur old videos but now im not. i love ROH
RDK619 1 year ago
Good move. Ny is cool at the end of the summer and it's Glory by Honor on ppv.
mhc12k 1 year ago
im sick of wrestling looking to the past for ratings, try making new guys
danverinodude 1 year ago
they don't have joey styles so they should not be doing it
crswcw 1 year ago
Great video Bill. I'll also will be going to the 9/11 ROH show as well. It's gonna be a HUGE show!!
UnlimitedStyle1989 1 year ago
great vid! 100% agree with you
hillbillyluchador 1 year ago
SPOT ON! Amen! My god how hard is it for TNA to get it!!!! But your're right...what do we the fans know?
genext7 1 year ago
you know your right the ecw guys can't go the distance anymore
kingmula2 1 year ago
How was the MCMG a bad moment??
AttitudeEra4life459 1 year ago
@AttitudeEra4life459 the MCMG have been a largely popular tag team in TNA for a very long time now, but had never captured the gold. They finally win it in a match that didn't have the best build up and wasn't really put over that they had finally won it in a big way, it sort of just went over like any match on impact, besides the crowd making SOME noise. i think that's what he meant
FaintestFusion 1 year ago
@FaintestFusion some noise is like a huge pop in the impact zone.
shrekber 1 year ago
@shrekber well that's certainly a problem in itself. they barely even leave the impact zone anymore so its always in front of the same crowd. to be quite honest im not even interested in buying their ppvs when its just in the impact zone. its basically what you just get on impact.
FaintestFusion 1 year ago
@FaintestFusion I actually agree. Impact zone PPVs is their biggest problem
shrekber 1 year ago
victory road really sucked, they could have made it really good.
muffunman 1 year ago
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ROH sucks balls.
dstebbin 1 year ago 3
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At least ROH isn't like WWE.; Selling out to a younger dempgraphic.
The same thing for TNA.
tthomaselli2 1 year ago
@tthomaselli2 Maybe they aren't "selling out," per se, but they STILL suck balls!
dstebbin 1 year ago
@dstebbin Bring back the Hall of Fame ring of POWERRRRRRR!!!! Now that was good booking.
gwar315 1 year ago
They're just doing it to get Paul Heyman in the company.
wwerulestna 1 year ago
I respect your opinion and you are right that TNA lacks meanings for their belts but that doesn't mean that the show isn't enjoyable. I enjoy impact and I am happy with the ECW invasion because I love the company ECW with all my heart. A LOT of people enjoy TNA and WWE now in days. Yes we all know the companies have problems and it can be FRUSTRATING but are we wrong for liking them? not in my mind because I have a different point of view than most fans.
Ericwwe211 1 year ago
Yeah, i really don't care for TNA doing this angle, but it did make for a good segment to end Impact.
DoubleCrossKing 1 year ago
It was supposed to be a mess. What is the point of "the sudden attack" if Dixie invited them?
johnnybbadass 1 year ago
so no one just wants to be entertained? all that matters anymore is the way a company does business and if you think its the right way? I guess i just don't get it. do i think TNA should be promoting ladder matches like they had on impact better? sure, but that wouldn't make it anymore fun to watch.
xeleven1310 1 year ago
completly agree! what is the point in this invasion? so they can have a hardcore ppv then what? dreamer, rhino, raven an stevie richards are past it!
ablakeway 1 year ago
I also like the celery comment. lol
splitz79 1 year ago
You are totally right Bill. They really dropped the ball
splitz79 1 year ago
@splitz79 I diagree. This was NOT "the invasion. she "invited them". what is the point of this "sudden attack" then? People need to give it some time.
johnnybbadass 1 year ago
@johnnybbadass Calm down man. It was my opinion, am I titled to an opinion?
splitz79 1 year ago
the ecw angle is stupid....hogan/bischoff/dixie need to realize it is NOT 1999!!!
as stupid as wwe is right now look at nexus vs ecw...whats the difference? ONE IS YOUNG the other have had their time to shine....
jim6700 1 year ago
@jim6700 So if your not young, then its wrong to go forward with anything that does not involve the young by default?
TNAFutureofWrestling 1 year ago
@TNAFutureofWrestling i dont know why I am responding with a name like that....but come on now.... if you cant see why younger is better then older then you need to get a reality check.
jim6700 1 year ago
@jim6700 Look Jackass, I was asking in general. It varies on who is better between the young & old, like for example, Kurt Angle is better than over 95% of the "young" guys in TNA, he may just be better than all of them. So just because your "young" doesn't mean your better. If you took out all of the people in WWE & TNA who ARE NOT "young", that would be a bad thing. If you cant see that, then you need a reality check
TNAFutureofWrestling 1 year ago
@jim6700 And uh, the name has nothing to do with it idiot, because when I asked the question, I was asking in general, not just in TNA's case, but in all companies case. Dont comment when you dont even know what your talking about.
"i dont know why I am responding with a name like that"
Douche
TNAFutureofWrestling 1 year ago
@TNAFutureofWrestling real mature there man.
splitz79 1 year ago
@splitz79 thanks alot
TNAFutureofWrestling 1 year ago
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@jim6700
"you make us regular tna fans ashamed"
lol, what is that suppose to mean?
TNAFutureofWrestling 1 year ago
Why do you think Dixie has been talking to Paul Heyman?
CanadianWarMachine 1 year ago
What exactly is so good about ROH? Truth Martini's promos? God... I am not a fan of WWE/TNA but ROH is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fucking overrated...
ajpwnjpw 1 year ago
@ajpwnjpw Yea, I feel ROH is a little overrated as well
TNAFutureofWrestling 1 year ago
They should of have the ECW guys invade right away and not waited for a month later. Does any one know why they edited out so much at the brawl at the end of Impact?
emeryDH 1 year ago
I'd like to bunch this faggot nerd right in the mouth, his whole life revolves around wrestling, he has no life besides watching wrestling and makes all these videos crying and screaming about wrestling with his annoying screeching voice, pimpled face and horrible hair.
WCWite 1 year ago
i dont like roh
iliketoastsonsunday 1 year ago 35
@iliketoastsonsunday Look all the thumbs up you got for that comment, amazing, isn't it?
TNAFutureofWrestling 1 year ago
@iliketoastsonsunday Me neither. The ROH show he's going to is 32 hours away from him and just 30 minutes away from me and yet I'm still not going lol
piscataway53 1 year ago
@iliketoastsonsunday sucks to be you then
5starwrestlingradio 1 year ago
@5starwrestlingradio sucks to have your own opinion? no, it sucks to be a rohbot.
iliketoastsonsunday 1 year ago
MCMG winning the titles was a great moment and met alot to every wrestling fan. Dont try to shit on just because you're a rohbot now.
notl33tatall 1 year ago 21
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Sorry but they won it 3 YEARS too late, didn't mean much if anything.
BuckyOfHonor 1 year ago
@BuckyOfHonor winning it in 3 YEARS ment MORE than everything
notl33tatall 1 year ago
@notl33tatall yeah and scott hall and kevin nash won the title big fucking deal
xxY2JLEDGENDKILLERxx 1 year ago
@notl33tatall lol you said rohbot =)
jayqu3 1 year ago
i like NXT invasion angle over ECW angle. Its about time WWE finally gave orton the right push. Orton is becoming huge and they are trying to make him the next big star of the company, so incase something happens to cena, we have Orton. Just like they had Austin and Rock. Its also great to see Evan Bourne being pushed, I really like Bourne now, even Sheamus is getting pushed.
snatchyme 1 year ago
I see what you mean bro. The over all product has changed so much in just one year and its still changing. The writing/booking is all over the place and TNA just keeps digging they self into a whole, instead of trying to climb there way out. You said it best, from january til now wit this ECW angle, they have changed so man damn times it doest make since. They just need a new writing/booking team and really needs to focus on stuff the long run and not just hot shotting stuff all the time.
BlacknRedTed 1 year ago
Wow. You ask them to do RVD vs Jerry Lynn. They do exactly that and you turn your back on them
rakafella2000 1 year ago
I take that celery comment offensive, but you got some points in your video.
BuckshotBrian24 1 year ago
New promotional material sent out for TNA's ECW-themed August PPV has a new name for the show - Hardcore Justice: One Last Stand. A new commercial for the show features fans chanting "ECW." It will be interesting to see how WWE reacts, if they do at all, to TNA using the ECW name to promote their product.
godsgift2x 1 year ago
i subscribed to you i see spinnernet like your videos so i watched i like them u know what your talking about keep up the vids bro
ShadyBanks20 1 year ago
so you're going by yourself to Glory by Honor or Doug is coming with you
crimsonshake 1 year ago
Now, mind you, I wouldn't have minded at all them building it up the way you suggested, but I have no problem with how it went down, either. Unpredictability for the sheer sake of unpredictability is normally not the best idea nor decision, but in this case, I feel it worked just fine and, more importantly, is a sensible thing to have leading up to the conclusion. There's usually more than 1 way of looking at things, is basically my point here.
Abyono 1 year ago
Had they built-up towards the MCMG-BM match at VR with the main theme being The Guns' long road & struggle towards becoming champions... don't you think that would have made them winning the bout just a bit too predictable? The victory could've been made to appear more special had they gone that route beforehand, sure.. but the uncertainty of them walking out champions added to the excitement factor of it when it ocurred, too.
Abyono 1 year ago
it's tna's last ditch effort to actually do something big for tna, what did hogan do... nothing, what did, ric do,,, nothing Dixie doesn't know what she is doing
thecrowrip 1 year ago
thank you theirs a bunch of haters saying that ECW has risen AGAIN bs , they get pissed cause i said its been done before and now theyre just trying to redo whats been done, and ECW is officially D-E-A-D DEAD, and now they wanna revive it as their own little faction
godsgift2x 1 year ago
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godsgift2x 1 year ago
Your comment at the 2:44 mark disappoints me. I'm fat and I love celery. VEGGIES-4-LYFE.
lrodzen 1 year ago
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lrodzen 1 year ago
How did I know this video was going to be a negative opinion just because its TNA...
SiloNova25 1 year ago
@SiloNova25 Because its a struggle to find positives, you know its funny that the 2 biggest TNA marks I'd ever seen(until TNATheFutureOfWrestling came out of his cave) completely turned on the product, that should give people an indication as to were this company is headed, their 2 biggest fans who were actually the voice of TNAs fanbase(on their own youtube account & TNAs) can't stand the company anymore.
Animation420 1 year ago
@Animation420 Most of the TNA fans who now hate the company, are mainly the ones who have been watching TNA since the early days. I have argued with TNA bashers before, and once they bring up the point saying "TNA should be original like it was back in 2005", thats when I stop arguing with them because they are the ones holding TNA down and they're the ones wanting it to be a super Indy promotion again. They wanted TNA to grow, but when they try, they complain. So I don't waste my time no more.
SiloNova25 1 year ago
@SiloNova25 Exactly, people actually go so far as to say that TNA show be more like ROH, ROH, WHAT. The same people who accuse TNA of needing to find "their own identity" (even though they have their own identity), are saying that TNA's identity should be similar to ROH, lol, how does that sound?, it sounds hypocritical, and on top of that, that would be taking the company backwards, if they went back to the early days of TNA
TNAFutureofWrestling 1 year ago
@TNAFutureofWrestling You must be the only person that has replied to me here on youtube without saying:
"OH YAEH WEL TNA NOT ORIGNALZ ITZ WCW 2.0 SUKAZ!!!1!!1"
Lol.
You must be one of the few on this site that actually see's through the criticism TNA receives. Lets just face it, no matter what TNA does, the whole of the IWC will continue to bash there accomplishments and/or complain about how they've copied something from the 90's.
SiloNova25 1 year ago
@TNAFutureofWrestling ''The same people who accuse TNA of needing to find "their own identity" (even though they have their own identity), are saying that TNA's identity should be similar to ROH, lol'' Show me where I said they needed to be like ROH and then tell me what exactly makes them different from other promotions we have seen in the last 15 years that supports your comment ''even though they have their own identity''.
Animation420 1 year ago
@Animation420 Never pointed you out single handedly, did I?, so you fail. There are many people out there who claimed TNA should be more like ROH, thats no mystery. What doesn't separate them from any other wrestling company?, they have their own identity by default. Until TNA makes it known that they want to be the new/next WCW, ECW, WWE, etc, then you cant say they dont have their own identity. Its all opinion if you want to put it that way, and everyone has one, its not fact though
TNAFutureofWrestling 1 year ago
@SiloNova25 How is having a weekly tv show on Spike and running monthly ppvs being a super indy show? TNA is running more house shows now and thats the only difference in growth since 2005/6.
Animation420 1 year ago
@Animation420 Thats what I mean. An Indy show, with PPV's and a TV deal. Thus, super Indy. Thats what people are wanting it to go back to. A lot of people who used to be TNA fans, who now hate it, are the ones that say TNA should go back to what it used to be. Where it was just high spots here and there and not much else. But now TNA has got in more drama, more things happening, and yet, they complain.
SiloNova25 1 year ago
@SiloNova25 Because they stopped being original and completely changed the companies direction, it was growing at a rapid rate back in 2005/6 and then when they started their creative change their growth completely stalled. I don't exactly get your point ''Thats what I mean. An Indy show, with PPV's and a TV deal. Thus, super Indy'' What is it in your opinion that seperates indy from mainsteam?
Animation420 1 year ago
@Animation420 My point is, TNA wouldn't have gotten as big as they would like to if they just stuck to the same direction they had those years ago. Everyone likes a mix of both, good storylines and good wrestling. TNA was mainly just plain good wrestling back then, and that was it.
SiloNova25 1 year ago
@SiloNova25 What do you consider ''good sroylines''. Back in 2006 you had the Stings return storyline(VERY underrated) and LAX storyline(both pre-Russo) both of those were better than anything I've seen Russo do since hes been in TNA.
Animation420 1 year ago
@Animation420 I consider what is going on right now "good storylines". the mysterious "they" of Abyss, Ric's "Fortune", The battle of the wrestling style between Kendrick and Douglas, TBP storyline, etc. You see what I mean? Negatives. Thats all people like you talk about.
SiloNova25 1 year ago
@SiloNova25 I talk about negatives bacause they stick in my mind more than the positives, like Victory Road, I watched it and enjoyed Beer Money vs MCMG but eveything else just didn't do it for me. I don't like any of those supposed ''storylines''. The ''they'' of Abyss was marred by the fact they have changed him gimmick 3 times this year, freaky 1. Man-Child, 2. Hogan, ring wearing wannabe, 3. bat weilding wack job. I just don't buy the charcter anymore so I don't buy the ''storyline''.
Animation420 1 year ago
@Animation420 As for the Douglas/Kendrick storyline, I don't like it one bit because they are booking Douglas' wrestling style as being ''boring'' for the X-Division which cheapens his wrstling ability when he could be something different for the division they are just building up him losing the belt to highflyer. The knockouts=Divas, don't care. I do like Flairs stable but everything surrounding it makes me uninterested.
Animation420 1 year ago
@Animation420 what was original in TNA?, why was TNA so "great" back then?, I personally think that TNA back at that time is a little overrated.
TNAFutureofWrestling 1 year ago
@TNAFutureofWrestling The X-Division was a division that we had never seen in wrestling before it was mostly just cruiserweights but then Samoa Joe came into the fold and it became about being ''No Limits'', a no limit division based on athleticism. Angles like the ones I mentioned above weren't as over the top and came off more real and personal. Most importantly they stuck to their strenghts which is something they haven't done in years.
Animation420 1 year ago
@Animation420 LAX was not original, Sting returning was not original, X Division being a modified cruiserweight division is somewhat original just for the simple fact that you can be any size. Just about everything in wrestling is no longer original, because most things have been done before in some form or fashion.
TNAFutureofWrestling 1 year ago
@Animation420 Actually, they can stand the company seeing how they just made a video about it, and obviously watched it no lesser than a few days ago
TNAFutureofWrestling 1 year ago
@TNAFutureofWrestling Well maybe he tolerates it but he certainly doesn't like it.
Animation420 1 year ago
@Animation420 That makes no sense, he likes it deep down, just as everyone else who takes the time to watch it. If he didn't like it, he wouldn't waste his time watching. That goes for everyone & every wrestling promotion
TNAFutureofWrestling 1 year ago
@Animation420 Oh, and there is one big positive. Former ECW fans could be drawn in to this PPV to see the ECW originals once more. Then they realise that a promotion called TNA set this thing up, so they check them out, then they realise TNA is quite damn good, so they become TNA fans. Obviously not everyone will just convert to TNA fans, but you know what I'm saying. Thats why I hate it when people bash TNA without using common sense. Its upto TNA to advertise this PPV well to get the word out.
SiloNova25 1 year ago
@Animation420 actually doug is a ufc/tna fan
rakafella2000 1 year ago
I going to GBH9 also. It'll be my first NYC show. Should be awesome as hell man
MrMarkman1981 1 year ago
You want the meaning? WATCH IMPACT!!!
ciaranod 1 year ago
Its not an invasion if its just a few guys preventing some maniac from re-arranging their buddy's face with a fuckin 2x4 covered in nails. No-one grabbed a mic and proclaimed we're taking over. Those 4 ECW guys have been at 4 or 5 tvs and 1 ppv and the first time they get involved is when their friend is in serious danger. How more obvious does it have to be?!
6steveo9 1 year ago
@6steveo9 finally someone with a brain
rakafella2000 1 year ago
What i fear the most if ROH should become mainstream, i hope they don't change their product.
AX7ROH 1 year ago
Thank you for this. I missed the invasion and I don't really care right now. Wrestling has been slipping for me so I'm glad I heard of ROH a couple of months ago.
Like you said, there's no build ups to title matches anymore. TNA just changes champs every other week for the most part and WWE gives titles to the same four or five guys, which is their base roster now apparently.
One thing though, I love celery. Haha.
MrCosstello 1 year ago
the ecw guys were actually suppose to attack after slammiversary but they couldnt get an agreement with heyman so thats why it took so long
psking777 1 year ago
@psking777 Which is ridiculous. Why would you start an angle with the HOPE that a guy is going to sign with your promotion.
Animation420 1 year ago
@Animation420 yeah that wasnt that smart of them even though they already had a plan b if they couldnt sign them which seems like they really didnt think he would come in
psking777 1 year ago
Not every title win is going to have an HBK type build up, lol, if anything, the MCMG tag title win was 1 of the most anticipated title wins in a long time as far as mainstream wrestling goes
How was it not a surprise when ECW attacked Abyss instead of RVD when everything was leading to Abyss joining ECW with his "they are coming" promos?, I dont get that part, you obviously are not enjoying TNA because they are not giving you what you want, and thats too bad I guess, but give the angle credit
TNAFutureofWrestling 1 year ago
TNA has an identitly crisis, do they want to be a poor mans attitude era even though WWE proved in 2002/3 that fans wern't into that stuff anymore? Do they want to be a poor mans WCW by bringing in big WWE names and not pushing their own stars aswell as pushing former WCW stars and WCW storylines(The Band=NWO)? Or do they want to be an ECW rip-off pushing guys who were stars of that promotion 10+ years ago? TNA needs to be original and create their own identity if the want to grow. TNA sucks.
Animation420 1 year ago
@Animation420 Also the ROH show your going too is gonna to be insane.
Animation420 1 year ago
@Animation420 Yet, once the attitude era ended, the ratings for WWE went down the tubes, and they never recovered them, I wonder why that is, hmm.
TNAFutureofWrestling 1 year ago
@TNAFutureofWrestling Because of the Invasion, it killed peoples interest and when they tried to re-create the attitude era(like TNA is doing now) nobody was interested. TNA is trying to re-create it but nobody cares, they sacrificed their die-hard fans to gain casual fans and its given them an extra 0.1/2 in ratings but killed their ppv buyrates since the diehards will order the ppvs and support your promotion but the casual fans could care less about paying money to see wrestling.
Animation420 1 year ago
@Animation420 Also TNA doesn't have enough talented mic workers justify the amount of promos they pack their shows with.
Animation420 1 year ago
@Animation420 Confirm the PPV buyrates, since you seem to have all the answers.
TNAFutureofWrestling 1 year ago
I'm only going on whats been said and thats more conformation than you can give to the contrary. Also your a mark so I really have no interest in talking to you. All you do is spend you days trolling the net defending TNA, do they pay you or something? Because defending TNA is a full time job since evryone hates it, oh wait now your going to brag about their 1.0 rating. Do you disagree with TNA having an identity crisis? Wait you don't because TNA is perfect. TNA sucks so fuck off troll.
Animation420 1 year ago
@Animation420 Then dont reply to me than, I could care less. Like I said, prove to me the PPV buyrates, if you cant do so, than how can you talk about them as if its fact?, im no mark, im a wrestling fan. How am i a troll just because I am going against what you say?, lol, sad. I never said TNA was perfect, did I?, douche, stop being delusional, and know what your talking about before you speak.
TNAFutureofWrestling 1 year ago
@TNAFutureofWrestling I do know what I'm talking about, ever single negative TNA vid I see you jump at the chance to slurp TNA, ''oh no it makes sense for them to do this because blah blah blah''. Your a mark dude, if you defend one promotion to the ground(while bashing others) and beleive everyone who talks negatively about it is