Google search - NYTimes Sues The Federal Government For Refusing To Reveal Its Secret Interpretation Of The PATRIOT Act. “We’re getting to a gap between what the public thinks the law says and what the American government secretly thinks the law says." There's a secret court ruling out there that says the government can spy on a ton of people under the Patriot Act, even though the text of the law seems to suggest otherwise.Senators Wyden & Udall have sued federal gov.Look it up!!! Pass it on.
Michael Moore is a great American, he helps to clean the dirt of the peoples eyes but only a few listen to him, its hard to penetrate skulls filled with entertainment, whats going to happen on jersey shore or who will be eliminated from american idol. cinema, video games, work work work.
the guy talking at 1.15 and on wards about when they put the bill in for voting is partly right, most bills that were most likely to be knocked back or voted against are brought forward on the last day before a holiday of some kind (most normally Xmas) where they are voted on rather quickly, and another point, those who do not vote are still counted as Yes for the bill, this is a fact i learned when watching Larry King and a bloke (cant remember his name) explained how it worked.
If anyone thinks giving up the 4th amendment makes us safer, they are mistaken. The founding fathers would never allow anything to pass that removes "probable cause" from the fourth. "Those who would give up a little liberty for a little security, deserve neither liberty nor security." - Ben Franklin The loss of the 4th will lead to the loss of the 2nd; the 2nd protects us from tyranny, foreign and domestic...
Way I see it crude politicians know about sleep and what to do. General staff has been provided and assets have been reviewed from the employees and who they asssign. Politcs as in Government like Govener and sheriff have purchased up to date technolgy following up with other countries in regards to abiltiy to process or acurate storage like core cpu or ssd hard drive. Usable equipment has been provided compatiable with most surounding countries Russia, Asia, and Germany.
You can blame Republicans all you want but President Obama re-newed the Patriot Act. He could have veto'd this bill and he didnt. Obama owns the Patriot Act now and everyone who voted for him owns this bill as well. The Senate is controlled by the Democrats; they could have voted no right down party lines and this bill would have been gone. But they didnt and Obama didnt. This is Obama's bill now and you can't blame anyone but him if you do not like the Patriot Act
What the heck do you Americans pay these people for? Sack em all, up with socialism, and all that. I hope the Australian government is better (though I sincerly doubt it).
This is what a Nazi Nation Looks like thank you voters for the Change & Hope you fucking morons. Voters are like Dogs they always return to their VOMIT
Why is Congress continuing to extend the Patriot Act without ANY reform of its unconstitutional spying powers? Please, join the protest against the Patriot Act:
12 NOON, March 12, 2011, assemble on the West side of the U.S. Capitol Building (the side facing the Washington Monument) to join a protest with one single, clear message to Congress: REPEAL THE PATRIOT ACT!
Search Facebook for "Patriot Act Protest" for more information.
What 's10X worse than the patriot act? When your kids are held hostage and used against you as they labeled it FAMILY LAW as if there is such a real thing HELPS DESTROY more families than any other act as you let them in.
This Goes Completly against the constitution! Do your Research! Ever since 9/11 they have used that to try and scare us into giving up our rights to protect america! A Great man once said "If people start giveing up their liberties for the sake of security the ultimate result will be we will have neither" --Benjamin Franklin-- We The People are the only ones that must always make sure to never give up our liberties because once we do we will slowly but surely lose them all.
@1947rande Are you confusing the Health Bill act? Besides , the Patriot Act was created and added to during Clintons time in office. 1996 to 2000 is 4 years of many additions. The Bush Admin did not add all those pages. They simply carried out what was already there.
@1947rande Hey.. smart guy... THE DEMOCRATS STARTED THE PATRIOT ACT... Jeeze, you people are like teenagers who have no idea about history. Bush did not create it. He only continued what Clinton created. STUDY!
@1947rande like obama is continuing some of the same fucked up policies bush started. mainstream politicians dont give a fuck about the common people. there too busy returning favors to all the organizations that got them elected
@erikdavis33 You do realize you need to actually no about history before trying to talk about it intelectually? It was the Democrats who created The Patriot Act. I'm not even going to share with you the details, you're going to have to get out of your pseudo-intellectual paranoid state of mind and research it for yourself.
@erikdavis33 You do realize you need to actually no about history before trying to talk about it intelectually? It was the Democrats who created The Patriot Act. I'm not even going to share with you the details, you're going to have to get out of your pseudo-intellectual paranoid state of mind and research it for yourself.
"Dictatorship is a lot easier." Bush is right. It is. In politics, like what happened in Russia, it was easy for Stalin because he could do whatever he wanted. You can take what I say how ever you want. Michael Moore, from what I understand, is just a fat director with a big mouth and no education, just like the rest of Hollywood in their little fantasy world. But I agree that the Patriot Act was a big mistake, especially since it's been dragging on forever. Now Obama has the power.
They are elected and paid to read these bills! If they can't read these important bills that become laws, then they need to find employment elsewhere. Get these people out and get people in who want to do the job and will read what the hell they are about to pass...before they pass it. Unbelievable!
Looks like the enemy has won. They took away our Freedom, put us in a state of fear, and terror, took away our money, and jobs. What's left? Better yet, who is our REAL enemy? I know, and you would rather not. GOD save you. The coup has been here sice before you were born, and the final solution is apon us. This is going to be bloody.
Such morons deciding the course for citizens and they don't bother reading an important bill before deciding to vote for or against. do we taxpayers around the world really pay the salary for these govt morons?
conclusion 1 we the people of the world are doomed.
conslcusion 2. I would make a lot of money if I had a position like theirs, making money sit on my ass, destroying peoples rights and dont give a fuck. nobody seems to bother neway why should i bother? i lost 23 y i'd go for the money
fuck congress they ignore us ! all the patriot act did was make more patriots ! arm yourself , the revolution is coming ! and the patriots are going to act .
@dfbhcf Except he tries to blame Republicans when it was very Liberal. In face, Harry Reid is now defending this piece of shit while Republican Rand Paul is against it and fighting tooth and nail to remove it.
@dfbhcf Except he tries to blame Republicans when it was very Liberal. In fact, Harry Reid is now defending this piece of shit while Republican Rand Paul is against it and fighting tooth and nail to remove it.
it just shows how unjust we are and how the government has to act with out the people opinion because there greedy and do benefit for themselves and its sad that no one read it..
Yes he did, if you go to my page and playlists of the Patriot Act I have the video of him telling us about how bad it is, and that he did vote against it.
our freedoms that are guaranteed in the amendments are slowly being ripped away from us through the intelligent wording of laws. the patriot act takes away our frredom of speech, cuz i cant say "im gonna bomb..." or anything like that bc that will get my phone listened to.
FISA was introduced after Watergate to prevent unsupervised surveillance. The bill set up a court which was intended to curtail illegal witetapping of U.S. citizens while allowing the tappers get an easy-to-receive warrant, which could even be granted 72 hours after the suspect was tapped. The PatAct updated FISA to circumvent the courts, even though they rarely declined requests.
Yeah that's pretty fucked up. But that's the price you pay for society accepting technology. You know me Armchair... The Machines will be our inevitable evolutionary step... and downfall.
@ArmchairRevolution You do realize you need to actually no about history before trying to talk about it intelectually? It was the Democrats who created The Patriot Act. I'm not even going to share with you the details, you're going to have to get out of your pseudo-intellectual paranoid state of mind and research it for yourself.
The United States is moving towards Fascism. It is not really a conspiriacy theory, but a fact. Do you even know what fascism is? Apparently you do not or you wouldn't think it is funny at all.
get yourself informed how fascism was established in germany for example. what fascism benefitted from compare it to america and you will see why it is impossible.
don't just take shit from people and take it as truth without researching it well enough to make an educated decision
@911MmRy The type of fascism our country is coming to is not a Hitler type fascism but a soft fascism called corporatism. Big government is in bed with big business and the military industrial complex can do anything it wants. The Patriot Act is a good example of this because it was opportunely passed after 9/11. It implies that if you do not vote for the act you are not a patriot, which is antagonism. We've been heading this way for the past 100 years or so.
@ArmchairRevolution You do realize you need to actually no about history before trying to talk about it intelectually? It was the Democrats who created The Patriot Act. I'm not even going to share with you the details, you're going to have to get out of your pseudo-intellectual paranoid state of mind and research it for yourself.
I wonder if the representatives and senators read SOPA.
VinceValentine 1 week ago
1 % Micheal Moore is a liar and a hypocrite !!!!!
patteel 2 months ago
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Google search - NYTimes Sues The Federal Government For Refusing To Reveal Its Secret Interpretation Of The PATRIOT Act. “We’re getting to a gap between what the public thinks the law says and what the American government secretly thinks the law says." There's a secret court ruling out there that says the government can spy on a ton of people under the Patriot Act, even though the text of the law seems to suggest otherwise.Senators Wyden & Udall have sued federal gov.Look it up!!! Pass it on.
2wheels88 3 months ago
Michael Moore is a great American, he helps to clean the dirt of the peoples eyes but only a few listen to him, its hard to penetrate skulls filled with entertainment, whats going to happen on jersey shore or who will be eliminated from american idol. cinema, video games, work work work.
AronHallan 6 months ago
the guy talking at 1.15 and on wards about when they put the bill in for voting is partly right, most bills that were most likely to be knocked back or voted against are brought forward on the last day before a holiday of some kind (most normally Xmas) where they are voted on rather quickly, and another point, those who do not vote are still counted as Yes for the bill, this is a fact i learned when watching Larry King and a bloke (cant remember his name) explained how it worked.
DJV1985 6 months ago
If anyone thinks giving up the 4th amendment makes us safer, they are mistaken. The founding fathers would never allow anything to pass that removes "probable cause" from the fourth. "Those who would give up a little liberty for a little security, deserve neither liberty nor security." - Ben Franklin The loss of the 4th will lead to the loss of the 2nd; the 2nd protects us from tyranny, foreign and domestic...
tojisuru32 7 months ago
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Way I see it crude politicians know about sleep and what to do. General staff has been provided and assets have been reviewed from the employees and who they asssign. Politcs as in Government like Govener and sheriff have purchased up to date technolgy following up with other countries in regards to abiltiy to process or acurate storage like core cpu or ssd hard drive. Usable equipment has been provided compatiable with most surounding countries Russia, Asia, and Germany.
redviper2GAMER 7 months ago
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You can blame Republicans all you want but President Obama re-newed the Patriot Act. He could have veto'd this bill and he didnt. Obama owns the Patriot Act now and everyone who voted for him owns this bill as well. The Senate is controlled by the Democrats; they could have voted no right down party lines and this bill would have been gone. But they didnt and Obama didnt. This is Obama's bill now and you can't blame anyone but him if you do not like the Patriot Act
PastorBrownSteve 8 months ago
What the heck do you Americans pay these people for? Sack em all, up with socialism, and all that. I hope the Australian government is better (though I sincerly doubt it).
lozzadearnley 8 months ago
JESUS! THEY DON'T READ IT BEFORE SIGNING? THIS IS MADNESS.
Gioxtream 10 months ago
@Gioxtream MADNESS??? This! IS!! CONGRESS!!!!!!!!
LEON951 7 months ago
This is what a Nazi Nation Looks like thank you voters for the Change & Hope you fucking morons. Voters are like Dogs they always return to their VOMIT
WarDogLRS 11 months ago
Why is Congress continuing to extend the Patriot Act without ANY reform of its unconstitutional spying powers? Please, join the protest against the Patriot Act:
12 NOON, March 12, 2011, assemble on the West side of the U.S. Capitol Building (the side facing the Washington Monument) to join a protest with one single, clear message to Congress: REPEAL THE PATRIOT ACT!
Search Facebook for "Patriot Act Protest" for more information.
nyprogressive 11 months ago
They didn't just "get" 911.
They manufactured it.
Not Congress, but those who own congress.
txsray1 11 months ago
so they could strip us of our liberty and our rights
TheTim1007 11 months ago
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What 's10X worse than the patriot act? When your kids are held hostage and used against you as they labeled it FAMILY LAW as if there is such a real thing HELPS DESTROY more families than any other act as you let them in.
411American 11 months ago
SOOO SAD, REAL REAL SAD/
whatfay357 1 year ago
Welcome to the police state!
frankster47 1 year ago
bitchybabygirl13 1 year ago
they don't read anything they pass and your still voting for these idiots?
CinematicComics 1 year ago
Just the fact that Bush would even joke about something like a dictatorship is truly scary.
rmccay88 1 year ago
@1947rande Show me where Palin has anything to do with that. and not some lame prison planet or undergound site.
hootyhaha 1 year ago
@hootyhaha she supported the patriot act. nuf said
acdc30450 11 months ago
@acdc30450 That A democrat created.. nuff said.
hootyhaha 11 months ago
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What an Oxymoron the Patriot act is!!
PATRIOT-
1. a person who loves, supports, and defends his or her country and its interests with devotion.
2. A PERSON WHO REGARDS HIMSELF OR HERSELF AS A DEFENDER, ESP. OF INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS, AGAINST PRESUMED INTERFERENCE BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
reseyful 1 year ago
What an Oxymoron the Patriot act is!!
PATRIOT-
1. a person who loves, supports, and defends his or her country and its interests with devotion.
2. A PERSON WHO REGARDS HIMSELF OR HERSELF AS A DEFENDER, ESP. OF INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS, AGAINST PRESUMED INTERFERENCE BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
reseyful 1 year ago
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n10dkf 1 year ago
@1947rande Do I think you're a Dem? Well you're not a Republican or a Conservative that's for sure. Your comments are proof of that.
hootyhaha 1 year ago
@1947rande Are you confusing the Health Bill act? Besides , the Patriot Act was created and added to during Clintons time in office. 1996 to 2000 is 4 years of many additions. The Bush Admin did not add all those pages. They simply carried out what was already there.
hootyhaha 1 year ago
@hootyhaha lol ok dude just keep believing that
pittbullbill 1 year ago
@1947rande Hey.. smart guy... THE DEMOCRATS STARTED THE PATRIOT ACT... Jeeze, you people are like teenagers who have no idea about history. Bush did not create it. He only continued what Clinton created. STUDY!
hootyhaha 1 year ago
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Megajunkie01001 1 year ago
LOL @ 0:32! The same idiots who voted for George Bush are the same idiots that call Obama a Nazi/Dictator/Marxist/Communist/Socialist and a Muslim!
Slayerfan84 1 year ago
they approved because they are dust motes, blown by the hot air of D.C.
masluxx 1 year ago
@1947rande like obama is continuing some of the same fucked up policies bush started. mainstream politicians dont give a fuck about the common people. there too busy returning favors to all the organizations that got them elected
erikdavis33 1 year ago 2
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@erikdavis33 You do realize you need to actually no about history before trying to talk about it intelectually? It was the Democrats who created The Patriot Act. I'm not even going to share with you the details, you're going to have to get out of your pseudo-intellectual paranoid state of mind and research it for yourself.
hootyhaha 1 year ago
@erikdavis33 You do realize you need to actually no about history before trying to talk about it intelectually? It was the Democrats who created The Patriot Act. I'm not even going to share with you the details, you're going to have to get out of your pseudo-intellectual paranoid state of mind and research it for yourself.
hootyhaha 1 year ago
HOW CAN U VOTE FOR SOMETHING U DONT KNOW WTF IS WIT THESE RETARDS
fourtwentyftp 1 year ago 3
I really am dissapointed that obama hasn't spoken out against the patriot act...
AgeOfReclamation 1 year ago
"Dictatorship is a lot easier." Bush is right. It is. In politics, like what happened in Russia, it was easy for Stalin because he could do whatever he wanted. You can take what I say how ever you want. Michael Moore, from what I understand, is just a fat director with a big mouth and no education, just like the rest of Hollywood in their little fantasy world. But I agree that the Patriot Act was a big mistake, especially since it's been dragging on forever. Now Obama has the power.
keatsfoxlore7 1 year ago
bushs america hitler would be proud
pittbullbill 1 year ago
this is the only movie of michael moore I liked
GovernmentSham912 1 year ago
George Bush and his crownes should be facing the death sentance. They fooled America BIG TIME.
rainbowdragon131065 1 year ago
The founding father are turing in their grave because of what going on these says we are turning into a fascist country.
GoHardMG 1 year ago
They are elected and paid to read these bills! If they can't read these important bills that become laws, then they need to find employment elsewhere. Get these people out and get people in who want to do the job and will read what the hell they are about to pass...before they pass it. Unbelievable!
jengacrock 1 year ago
The Patriot Act has saved many lives, so let's support it.
maciindrew 1 year ago
Hold your breath America. I'm coming soon. Don't give up.
ricewave 1 year ago
Looks like the enemy has won. They took away our Freedom, put us in a state of fear, and terror, took away our money, and jobs. What's left? Better yet, who is our REAL enemy? I know, and you would rather not. GOD save you. The coup has been here sice before you were born, and the final solution is apon us. This is going to be bloody.
richracer1 2 years ago 2
Conyers says "we dont read most of the bills" Enough said. What a Fucking Bull Shit Congress we have.
pettyofficer30 2 years ago
it's called pressure.
sndd0138 1 year ago
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DawnWeatherby 2 years ago
oh God
what about the Stimulas and Healthcare Bill?
SHAMSHAM1090 2 years ago
Stimulus: trying to slow down the decline of our economy-- and it worked.
healthcare bill: trying to give millions of americans access to health insurance-- a god thing, in the making
patriot act: legal spying of american citizens by a government who didn't know how to handle a sticky situation diplomatically.
msammas 2 years ago
come on america..dont think so much..let a bunch of corrupt scumbags think for you..you rae in good hands!
sketchyfolk 2 years ago
Such morons deciding the course for citizens and they don't bother reading an important bill before deciding to vote for or against. do we taxpayers around the world really pay the salary for these govt morons?
conclusion 1 we the people of the world are doomed.
conslcusion 2. I would make a lot of money if I had a position like theirs, making money sit on my ass, destroying peoples rights and dont give a fuck. nobody seems to bother neway why should i bother? i lost 23 y i'd go for the money
LemonAndYoghurt 2 years ago
@LemonAndYoghurt I dont know why I can't add another youtube link on a reply but any check out
"Stop The North American Union Documentary" on youtube.
loomround 1 year ago
awesome lol have to read to them like they are children in school and that is how they should be treated until they change there ways
Nathano27 2 years ago
fuck congress they ignore us ! all the patriot act did was make more patriots ! arm yourself , the revolution is coming ! and the patriots are going to act .
jackandjanie1 2 years ago
haha..Only Michael Moore would circle around DC and read the Patriot Act to the congress.
lol, so awsome!
dfbhcf 2 years ago 13
@dfbhcf Except he tries to blame Republicans when it was very Liberal. In face, Harry Reid is now defending this piece of shit while Republican Rand Paul is against it and fighting tooth and nail to remove it.
Aesoe 8 months ago 2
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@dfbhcf Except he tries to blame Republicans when it was very Liberal. In fact, Harry Reid is now defending this piece of shit while Republican Rand Paul is against it and fighting tooth and nail to remove it.
Aesoe 8 months ago
It slows down the process of legislation?
Good
marketofideas 2 years ago
it just shows how unjust we are and how the government has to act with out the people opinion because there greedy and do benefit for themselves and its sad that no one read it..
xXxIrishCarBomb77xXx 2 years ago 2
Didnt Ron Paul voted against it?
ladymagnoliaa 3 years ago 2
Yes he did, if you go to my page and playlists of the Patriot Act I have the video of him telling us about how bad it is, and that he did vote against it.
kimber202 2 years ago
our freedoms that are guaranteed in the amendments are slowly being ripped away from us through the intelligent wording of laws. the patriot act takes away our frredom of speech, cuz i cant say "im gonna bomb..." or anything like that bc that will get my phone listened to.
sparkync18 3 years ago 2
The world revolves around conspiracies.
procommenter 3 years ago 4
This should be a WARNING. Stop being so fucking apathetic. Dont be sheep
MyhardPwner 3 years ago 3
This is just depressing; they didn't even read the damn thing. The PatAct passing only reinforces conspiracy theorists.
ArmchairRevolution 4 years ago 7
yap
they even think it's the first step of US becoming fascist
and the funniest thing is they are serious^^
911MmRy 4 years ago
I believe the multiple warrantless wiretapping programs is the first step, personally.
ArmchairRevolution 4 years ago
the patriot act means phone conversations of any us citizen can be intercepted
its like wiretapping
911MmRy 4 years ago
FISA was introduced after Watergate to prevent unsupervised surveillance. The bill set up a court which was intended to curtail illegal witetapping of U.S. citizens while allowing the tappers get an easy-to-receive warrant, which could even be granted 72 hours after the suspect was tapped. The PatAct updated FISA to circumvent the courts, even though they rarely declined requests.
It's very fishy to me.
ArmchairRevolution 4 years ago
Yeah that's pretty fucked up. But that's the price you pay for society accepting technology. You know me Armchair... The Machines will be our inevitable evolutionary step... and downfall.
Dertygian 3 years ago
FISA was updated after 9/11 to incoporate new technologies. Bush praised the update in 2001-2002.
ArmchairRevolution 3 years ago
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@ArmchairRevolution You do realize you need to actually no about history before trying to talk about it intelectually? It was the Democrats who created The Patriot Act. I'm not even going to share with you the details, you're going to have to get out of your pseudo-intellectual paranoid state of mind and research it for yourself.
hootyhaha 1 year ago
911MnRy,
The United States is moving towards Fascism. It is not really a conspiriacy theory, but a fact. Do you even know what fascism is? Apparently you do not or you wouldn't think it is funny at all.
madembalmer2007 3 years ago 11
get yourself informed how fascism was established in germany for example. what fascism benefitted from compare it to america and you will see why it is impossible.
don't just take shit from people and take it as truth without researching it well enough to make an educated decision
911MmRy 3 years ago
@911MmRy
Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.
`Benito Mussolini` all within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.
~Benito Mussolini ~
Mussolini was a head of the Italian fascist government during WWII.
masluxx 1 year ago
@911MmRy The type of fascism our country is coming to is not a Hitler type fascism but a soft fascism called corporatism. Big government is in bed with big business and the military industrial complex can do anything it wants. The Patriot Act is a good example of this because it was opportunely passed after 9/11. It implies that if you do not vote for the act you are not a patriot, which is antagonism. We've been heading this way for the past 100 years or so.
lifeisbeautiful1748 1 year ago
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hootyhaha 1 year ago
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@ArmchairRevolution You do realize you need to actually no about history before trying to talk about it intelectually? It was the Democrats who created The Patriot Act. I'm not even going to share with you the details, you're going to have to get out of your pseudo-intellectual paranoid state of mind and research it for yourself.
hootyhaha 1 year ago