MJ with with the block party, the two handed crush over Sampson, the breakaway rim-rocker on Olajuwon (who totally gave up on the play) and the all-around dominance in this game shows just why he dominated the NBA with an iron grip during his playing career. Danny Ainge (and many others since) once called MJ "The only player that simply has NO weaknesses.
Ah, then Jordan returned to the game in a Wizards uniform and got crossed over by younger legs, nightly. But, you conveniently left that part out just as you left you his marginal playoff success in the years leading up to the championships. To let you tell it, Jordan came from the womb with an MVP and a fist full of championships -with no help from anybody. HA!
@gjslaughter hey dog shit Jordan a higher career assist average than pippen while having the highest scoring average in nba history you stupid fuck, that's an incredible stat you fuckin moron, what are you talking about bitch? Jordan higher career assist average than pippen in the regular season, playoffs, and finals bitch. Jordan a higher career assist average than pippen in all those realms......while having the highest scoring average of all time in all of them lmao bastard.
@gjslaughter Do you even comprehend what that means? That means Jordan was ten times more productive than pippen on offense you fuckin imbecile. Which is why Jordan has the highest win share average in bulls history and the fourth highest win share totals in NBA history. Take your own fuckin advice and learn basketball bitch. Jordan has fewer turnovers than pippen in the regular season, playoffs, and finals bitch...... with a higher usage rate lmao.
@gjslaughter That means Jordan wasted less offensive possessions than pippen while, having the ball more on offensive end of the floor....lmfao. That means the bulls scored more points when Jordan had the ball in his hand on offense not pippen, you fuckin hag. Get the fuck back under you rock bitch, you can't fuckin argue with me you virgin faggot. You spam my fuckin account for this bullshit?
@gjslaughter You email me with this? When I haven't posted on this video in 3 fuckin years? Lmao you no life, no girl having virgin faggot…..you have that much time on you spermed covered hands? Got damn you're fuckin pathetic bitch, get a fuckin life and stop fuckin your farm animals.
@gjslaughter Jordan with a dpoy award, I’ll ask again where pippen’s awards are on defense bitch? Jordan three steals titles and, is number two all time in total steals and, in the top five in steals per game in nba history bitch once again pippen isn't any of this and, these defensive accolades where accomplished with Jordan retiring twice.
@gjslaughter where are pippen's steals titles? You little fuckin cream puff. don't tell me about a fuckin first team defense when, that honor is based on positional play rather than actually being better than the entire league at defense, which is what a dpoy is all about...... Jordan should have two dpoy not one. Pippen has shot 50 percent in the playoffs once in his entire career yet, he's so invaluable to Jordan?
@gjslaughter Lmfao asshole he was a fuckin liability that Jordan turned into an asset. Pippen played with hall of famers and top ten talent after Jordan retired and, he still couldn't win shit you fuckin piece of trash.
@gjslaughter The facts are mike= 6 finals mvps over pippen Pippen = no finals mvps over Jordan
.....MIKE AND SCOTTIES LAST GAME AS TEAMMATES....
JUNE 14TH, 1998....game 6 of the NBA finals vs. jazz...
Mike- 45 pts
Scottie- 8 pts
lmaooooo.......that’s not a typo!!.....45 to 8 in the last game they ever played as teammates.....plus mikes championship winner like I said pippen is a fuckin sidekick
@gjslaughter jordan has won four titles with pippen averaging under 20 points per game in the playoffs lmfao, no all time great player has won that many titles with their second best scoring option averaging this pathetic scoring output while shooting all time pathetic field goals you lose
Jordan: 5.3 assist, Pippen: 5:2 -HUGE DIFFERENCE. Also, referring to your comment "...[Pippen] had no other option [accept to pass to Jordan] he had no one else," that doesn't make sense (Jordan averaged around 30pts and the Bulls scored between 85-100pts, who). Then again, you are not using common sense let alone logic.
Youngster please give it up and resume your old activities of ...sitting in dark room, lighting up a Meth pipe, and masterbate to old Jordan highlights you tweaker.
@gjslaughter Yet you bring up Jordan not winning while playing as an old man with guys like Popeye Jones and jhadi white? Lmao you fuckin dirt bag. Jordan played with fuckin bums and still almost made the playoffs at 39 and 40. Pippen played with hakeem and Barkley and got shitted on, pippen played with rasheed Wallace and bonzi wells, and lost to the fuckin Lakers with a lead in the fourth quarter you fuckin clit.
@zopoundsakpase: You are an idiot. Learn to read and interpret stats correctly. You can begin with assessing Jordan's playoff wins prior to Pippen and others joining the Bulls. Any legit basketball fans, even those who are not fond of Jordan, Pippen, or the Bulls, would recognize that Jordan and Pippen served each other well.
This according to Wikipedia "...[Pippen] led the league in steals (232) and steals per game (2.94) in 1994–95. His 10 NBA All-Defensive honors and 8 NBA All-Defensive First Team honors are each one shy of the NBA record." So, know what you are talking about before opening your mouth or, at least, make the disclaimer that you are a fake-ass fan before doing so.
This according to Wikipedia "...Led the league in steals (232) and steals per game (2.94) in 1994–95. His 10 NBA All-Defensive honors and 8 NBA All-Defensive First Team honors are each one shy of the NBA record." So, know what you are talking about before opening your mouth or, at least, make the disclaimer that you are a fake-ass fan before doing so.
You appear to be young (at least I am hoping this is the case given your lack of maturity). This would explain your heavy emphasis on Jordan and lack of respect for the other members of the championship Bulls teams. Maybe you're just a retroactive Bulls fan, dick riding on Jordan highlights since you didn't have the benefit of watching numerous reg. season games in realtime. Had you done this, you would see that even the greatest player on earth had flaws and that his teammates were valuable
Jordan went on to play for the Wizards and couldn't win. So, he isn't perfect. He made commercials in the past stating as much. Stop sucking his dick so much would you. Pippen, playoffs with Rockets, Western Conf. finals with Portland.
Btw, iif you were a Jordan fan, than I can assume you were a Bulls fan. If this is the case, stop hating on the Pippen, the second best player to suit of for Chicago.
@zopoundsakpase: Your memory is selective. Jordan came back after retirement yet again, as a Washington Wizard, and failed to make it to the playoffs. Pippen had more post-Chicago Bull success than Jordan. And yes, Pippen and Hakeem played together, both past their prime, and failed to win a championship ...what was your point. Lastly, when insulting others, write more clearly ...you run the risk of looking like an idiot otherwise.
There is no way Oscar could average a triple double all season long in the NBA today. Dont get me wrong he would still do good. To people that say the NBA back then was lacking in skill and talent should watch some videos of Dr J in the early 70's he was amazing
@GoingOn9Lives It's hard to say that he wouldn't but it wouldn't be bcuz of talent tho. There were so many more possesions back then so all stats were higher. That's how guys averaged over 20 boards bcuz they played faster. But with that said, Lebron has as good a chance as any1 to average a triple double this year because he won't have to score as much as he had to in cleveland. He gets a lot of people a lot of easy baskets and it's no stretch for the rebounds bcuz they don't have a center.
I know this post is a few months behind but to the gentlemen talking about wilt and russell there is not doubt in my mind they would be great today. Wilt was a superior athlete in great conditioning however there is no way he would average 50 PPG a season. I can see him averaging 35 in the late 80's early 90's but the late 50;s and early 60's were the structuring days of the NBA. Wilt just happened to be ahead of his time. Oscar was also the first big guard in the NBA
@corysmolly : Not exactly. Olajuwon was more consistent and more dominant than Sampson. Hakeem, with the exception of his rookie year, had better stats that Raloh. In his second year Hakeem asserted himself as the team's most dominant player as evidenced by his NBA final's v Boston Celtics: Hakeem -26 pts & 11.8 rbs , Sampson's 20pts, 10 rbs and by making All NBA when Sampson failed to.
@corysmolly Remember, Sampson was traded to Golden State after servicing Houston for just 3 years largely because"the Dream" had the middle on lock and Houston felt they could trade [Sampson] to get a more complete team. In other words despite his talent Ralph was disposable. The Dream = best player in Rocket franchise history (since Moses Malone played just five season with them -otherwise one could make a case for him). Plainly, Hakeem is the shit.
You missed his most important attribute, the desire and dedication to put in the work on and off the court in order to be the greatest. No one has ever worked as hard as Michael Jordan did.
i'm going pure skill, wilt and russel couldn't have achieved what they have have they played in the 90's with ewing robinson hakeem shaq and other great bigmen, or even the 80s, wilt may have been a 30-12 player in his prime, but nowhere near the bloated stats he allocated in the early 60's
on the other hand, put any of those 3 in the era of russell and wilt and you would have dominance at its very purest.
This is one of the most absurd arguments i have heard in sports.
first of all it's almost impossible to compare players from diff. eras but discounting wilt and russel is just amazingly backwards. I'm not sure how many people would agree with you.
then you go on to say "other great bigmen" as to say that there are more big men that were better that wilt and russel, you can't be talking about the same sport that i'm talking about.
i don't think you gave consid and you had to defend ur list.
it's in the general consensus that the main reason wilt and rusesll dominated was because of their skill AND the fact that players were simply a lot less athletic and as a whole probably a good foot shorter and less stronger than contemporary basketball, so yes you can compare players from diff eras, just like the kobe vs jordan, this era vs jordan era argument.
i meant other great bigmen, not that they're better, but that they wont allow 20 boards and 30-40 ppg on a daily basis,
I wouldn't say a whole foot shorter but there was a good height difference.
But with all of that said i think you should check wilt's background, this man was a freak of nature. He ran like a 10 second 100, did the 440 in 49 seconds and killed everyother track and field event . Just pointing out that he was an athlete to the fullest. Name one big man on ur list that you think could do that. He'd be great right now, don't forget he played at 275 lbs
Plus you ask any real basketball historian who is the best center of all time is and they'll probalbly say wilt. ask who is the best winner of all time and they'll probably say russel.
what's your answer to these questions? This'll be interesting.
i don't have an answer to these questions as i don't know any real basketball historian
i'm sorry if I offended you in anyway, i just posted my opinions and defended
but can i ask you something? do you think wilt would be able to avg 25-30 rpg and 40-50 ppg in the 90's? do you think russell could have gone toe to toe with the likes of hakeem shaq ewing and robinson, maybe even barkley and rodman in terms of pure rebounding?
and when people talk about greatest center of all time, usually they take into consideration the intangibles, like russells streak and legacy, wilts intimidation
but who knows, maybe they could have surppassed the great centers of the 90s but thats something we'll never know, for me, i gotta take everything into consideration, like league rules and avg height etc... thats how i think
thats why i believe kobes 81 was a lot more impressive than wilts 100, you probably think otherwise, i respec
i agree with you, but that's why i said from the start it's hard to compare players from diff eras. kobe's 81 was impressive, but you can't discount wilt's 100 either.
the rules are so much different now so i don't think he would have had such averages but he did so you can't take it away.
let's not talk about what ifs, lets go on the facts and the fact is he did average that and russel did win eight in a row and eleven in thirteen years.
and i respect your opinion, i was just ofering mine. at the same time i think your opinion should make sense.
Always great 2 see the top 2 players of their time battle at such a young age (Michael & Hakeem) . I laugh at the notion of their being a better off guard than MJ, 2day's 2 guards may be just as athletic OR EVEN MORE ATHLETIC, but they lack MJ's intelligence & toughness. Mike's shot selection is what made him so efficient, he didnt' jack up 3 pointers & he was relentless at getting 2 the rim. Again this shows his toughness, what with the physical nature of the game back then.
At the end of the day the NBA continued with or without Michael Jordan. To deminish the Rockets success because Jordan wasn't playing is basically saying the years he played were the only years that mattered.
Also the ROckets in there second championship sweeped the Magic who ahd beaten the Bulls with Jordan.
I'm not saying Houston would have won both years if Jordan was in teh league. I'm just saying the Rockets two championships should not be diminished.
not even with barkley,drexler,olwajuwon and a good bench the bulls went 6 times to the finals with 2 different rosters except jordan and pippen the first 3 peat was 91-93 and the 2nd was 96-98 but yeah i would have liked to see them in the finals at least once
were is hakeem 1992 beat bulls 24pts 11 reb 8 BLKS 3blks on jordan who went 9 for 26 for 22 pts,and 28pts 13 reb 7 ast 4 stl 5 blks SICK! jordan 26 11reb 9 for 23 oh yeah we owned them in regular season's. that whould have been a DREAM MATCHUP ROCKETS V BULLS sucked it never happened
lol it seems your a homer, im a realiest, first ring dream had would be a push cuz they had a tough defensive team, and mad max frustrated mj, second ring HELL NAW rockets were TOO DEEP
Nah hell no bulls would've gotten them in 5 or 6 in 94 because they barely beat a knick team that barely beat a jordanless bull team then in 95 bulls would have beaten them again with ease and MJ was never frusturated with Vernon maxwell he put up numbers against houston and he put 48 on him when max was in philly. now don't get me wrong i think hakeem is possibly the best center ever and they did have a good team but if they were that great why couldn't they get back 2 the finals
Those same Knicks took the Bulls to 7 games in 92', and 6 games in 93'. What's your point? The Bulls having a good season in 94' just showed how good that team really was even Jordanless. Jordan did play in 95' so why are you saying the Bulls "would have" etc.. When Jordan returned in 95', the Bulls ended the season as the hottest team in basketball, and in the first round had an impressive 3-1 series win over a higher seeded Hornets team. They lost to the Magic in 6, & the Rockets swept Magic.
first of all the 94 bulls was JORDANLESS so with jordan that would have put them over the top and would have beat NY and eventually houston then in 95 if jordan wasn't rusty coming back from an 18 month retirment they would have beat houston again even with Drexler coming that year and etc
rusty? In 95' playoffs Jordan was averaging nearly 32 ppg, 7 rpg, & 5 ast. On top of that, MJ was shooting 49% from the field during that post-season. Basically he was on pace for another NBA Finals MVP. Rusty? Yeah right.
It's hard to imagine Jordan losing in his prime so i can see how people would come up with the conclusion that he was out of shape or rusty. Just because you make some mistakes at the end of some games doesn't mean you aren't the same player it means your human.
If nething numbers don't lie. Jordan didn't put up just "good numbers" he was putting up numbers that were on pace of his posteason numbers in 96', 97' & 98'.
Its not all about numbers, anyone who watched Jordan at the end of 95 saw that he wasnt playing the game the way all of us knew him to. Granted he still got good numbers but he was also constantly making adjustments to his game because his capabilities athletically werent on the same level they were before he left.
I'm not trying to bash Jordan. Imo it had nothing to do with Jordan physically or mentally that year. The 94-95 Bulls just weren't the same as the 91-93 Bulls. They had added Kukoc, Longley, Kerr, and Harper all on the roster that were new. Imo the teeam just wasn't a cohesive unit yet. They needed more time to bond together, and picking Dennis Rodman didn't hurt either.
I cant disagree with the point about the new players I agree 100% that it was a factor. But youre saying that a whole new team had no impact on Jordan mentally? He took time to mold the players in 91-93. Youre also saying that taking 18 months off of basketball to play a different sport that required a totally different type of training had no impact on him physically? Im not saying he was out of shape Im just saying he wasnt in the same basketball shape he was before retiring.
I think it's safe to say even the Jordan from 96'-98' wasn't the same Jordan from 91'-93. Like I said I don't think it was anything physical with Jordan but that's just me. I'm not saying this is true but some might say Jordan might have had the edge on some of the other superstars for not having to have played through an entire 82 game season. Either way I'm a rational person, and I can see where your coming from. It's nice to debate with someone that doesn't revert to name calling.
It still would'nt make a difference. The rockets use to wup the bulls ass in the regular season. Jordan could'nt score more than 20 points when he and bulls met the rockets. The rockets still would've won the champions so quit hatin.
Well dumb ass Jordan lost the season series to utah in 1998 and look what happened and jordan scoring only 20 LMAO look at his stats numbers don't lie
First of ur the dumbass. You never really watched the rockets when they wupped the bulls at home or on the road not even utah has done that. When they had olajuwon, otis thorpe, and vernon maxwell. They was able to shut down micheal jordan and the bulls. It would've been a seven game match but the rockets would've still won the championships.
ok u stupid fuck if the rockets lost in the semi finals and conference finals all the time to the eventual western conference champion (LA Portland Seattle and Utah twice) that means that they would go on to lose to the bulls so u piece of shit that shows houston would have lost to the bulls plus regular season doesn't matter it's about the playoffs anybody that KNOWS basketball knows that
The rockets still would've took it in the championships years. Their offense and defense was one of the best. Olajuwon and maxwell would've torn their asses up and won the championships so the stf and quit dick riding Jordan so much. I'm not gonna keep arguing with you.
u can't keep arguing with me i'm right maxwell wtf could he do he couldn't stop jordan or pippen and hakeem is great he cause the most trouble for the bulls but still rodman would guard centers and bigger players and could play mind games
Vernon maxwell is known for stopping micheal jordan. He was able keep micheal jordan from scoring 40 points.Olajuwon dominated dennis redman too. Don't get me wrong I like micheal jordan and bulls too. He's one of my favorite players. The rockets and bulls were my favorite teams of during the decade. Robert horry was able to nail them 3's over everyone. Thatz the strategy that made the rockets a powerhouse.
if the rockets were such a powerhouse why did they only go to the finals twice and vernon maxwell couldn't stop jordan from getting 40 points did u see when jordan scored 48 points on him and robert horry hitting threes is no big deal the bulls had paxon, b.j. steve kerr craig hodges. now the rockets were good but they werent better than the bulls
@JCR1992 Rockets made it to the finals three times w/ Olajuwon. The upset defending Champions LA Lakers. The lost in game six to the very Celtics Team who swept the Bulls in the Eastern Conf. 1st round.
Also, the Bulls could have met the Rockets in the 1995 Finals had they not lost to a young-ass Shaq and Penny Hardaway (and yes Jordan had come back by then and although rusty, he was good enough, along side Pippin to make it to the Eastern Conf. Finals.
@JCR1992 Hot dissing the Bulls Dynasty(s) but I am advocating for the Rockets to get their due respect. A basketball fan with integrity would not deny the Rocket's place in NBA history and he/she damn sure would question Hakeem. Btw, don't the Bulls, under Jordan, have a loosing record against Olajuwon's Rockets? Not saying Houston was superior but competition was certainly there. Recognize!
@chamilitary07 You sound defensive that the Rockets were only able to win a championship when Jordan wasn't around for a full season. I don't blame you though. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
@JCR1992 The Bulls got thumped in the Eastern Conf. playoffs plenty of times (Boston, Detroit, Cleveland, and Orlando in case you forgot). Regarding the Rockets vs. the Bulls meeting in the playoffs and your selective memory and dishonest blame of the Rockets incompetence for not making that happen, refer to years 1986 and and 1995 when Jordan and Company were eliminated in the East and therefore could not play Houston. As great as YOUR Bulls were they still were met with competition.
@JCR1992 If you are such a Bulls fan, why haven't you mentioned Pippen. He was damn near MVP of the league in Jordan's absence. In fact, the Bulls led by Scotty won 55 games. So, even if Jordan was rusty when he came back (although his superior stats in the 95' playoffs call into question the extent to which Jordan fans can claim "rusty") in theory the Bulls should have beat a young-ass Shaq and Penny combo. Oh, I forgot, Shaq dominated -then he went on to get dominated by Olajuwon.
@JCR1992 Again, The Bulls have won enough and Jordan has certainly etched his name in sports history so there is no need to excuse make for or wash away from memory there years [his] Bulls did not "take it all." Hell the man is human not a Marvel Comic Character.
not even with barkley,drexler,olwajuwon and a good bench the bulls went 6 times to the finals with 2 different rosters except jordan and pippen the first 3 peat was 91-93 and the 2nd was 96-98 but yeah i would have liked to see them in the finals at least once
I suppose your talkin about the 97' team that lost to the Jazz in the WCF. You call Eddie Johnson and Kevin Willis a deep bench?? The rest of players on that bench sucked. Imo if that Rockets team had had good bench, and a good point guard they could have gone all the way. Instead they had rookie Matt Maloney setting things up.
i do think they were Finals bound not championship bound because they almost forced a 7th game with utah but stockton hit a game winning 3 and yeah there bench was deep
@JCR1992 Yes, the Bulls were great but they were not perfect. Plz allow them to be human and stop trying to prove their legacy is legitimate when we already know it as. Also, stop hating on the Rockets especially when you know deep down that Olajuwon is a prototype for NBA centers and that he too, went through the greatest in his position to win championships (i.e. Ewing, Robinson, Mutombo -a defensive juggernaut, and the same Shaq that put the kabosh on the 95' Bulls final's hopes.
You're forgettin about Scottie Pippen, the most versatile player to ever play in the NBA. When MJ retired the first time, Pip took over! Got the All-Star MVP! Led the Bulls to the Conference playoffs. So I think they might have won one without MJ!
actually simpleton cocksucker warmanns,pippen didn't led the bulls to the conference finals bitch he led them to the semi finals,and led is a strong word since kucko hit the game winning shot to make sure the bulls kept playing.
@zopoundsakpase And Jordan scored 63 pts against the eventual 1986 Champion Celtics but still lost the game and was swept. He was Pippen-less. I can think of about 25 other teams that would have killed to get a point-forward, defensive monster like Scotty. Shit, Jordan ain't mad that Pippen landed on his team -trust me!
pippen was a seven point per game scorer when he came into the nba. after playing with jordan for 6 years he became much better, but still had no real offensive game,and struggled as a shooter.
@zopoundsakpase: Because he wasn't a pure shooter, Pippen perfected banking the ball of the backboard. Most players cannot do this. Also, you shouldn't forget that Pippen was a defensive nightmare for opponents and he could guard positions 1-4 with success. This had to have helped Jordan to save some of his energy for scoring. Just as Pippin should thank Jordan, Jordan should thank him. In 1996, you had the number 1 player playing with a top five player ...no fair (lol).
but they didnt win a title w/o mj there and pippen didnt lead them to one so i dont get ur point...plenty of ppl won all star mvps and dont have rings so thats besides the point
Jordan and his Bulls can easily stop the rockets.even with Clyde during 95 and the Rockets where lucky against the knicks in 94.you cant stop Jordan thats true but you all forgot that isiah thomas and joe dumars' pistons beated him in 3 times in a row.
jvcforce1...yeah right. The Bulls with zero interior presence having Kukoc at PF and Longley at centre vs. Hakeem playing the best post-season ball of any player in NBA history? Gimme a break. That's a bigger mismatch than Michael vs. Clyde at SG.
Do you think that Longley and Kukoc made the Bulls better or some?no way,Pippen,Jordan,Grant,Paxson made the Bulls better.if Jordan didn't made his first retirement he could easily beat the Rockets twice in 94 and 95.but the chances were short cause of the Knicks,the Magic and the loss of his father.
Uhhhh, I never implied they "made" the Bulls, I said they had zero interior presence. Perhaps you didn't watch the interior domination by the Magic in the 95 playoffs. They didn't exactly sign Rodman to run the point you know.
Riiiiight. Hakeem averaged 35 ppg vs. David Robinson in the playoffs, and he averaged 33 ppg vs. Shaq in the Finals. MJ NEVER faced a one-on-one talent as great as either Shaq or DRob in the playoffs. Think about it, 33 ppg vs. Shaq, and you're telling me about what the Bulls would've done to Hakeem playing the greatest any centre's ever played. Yeah right.
How many times has MJ averaged above 30 ppg in the playoffs? Virtually every series of every year. Nobody brought it more than MJ in playoff time. Hakeem could be a dangerous force but so was MJ. Even more for that matter. It would be one hell of a series.
MJ averaged 30 ppg, yes. But against all-time greats, aside from Clyde who isn't even amongst the top 10 shooting guards ever? John Starks, Bryon Russell, Dan Marjele?
I think what Hakeem did in the 95 playoffs is as good as anything MJ ever did in the post-season. To destroy DRob, and outplay Shaq in consecutive series (not including outscoring Ewing by nearly 10 ppg, 1 yr earlier) is legendary.
Centers are big and dominant players. Well they were back then. It's natural that Hakeem had to face big guys, i give him credit but its not like he was 6'7. He was as tall or taller than his competition. And very skilled too no doubt. MJ didnt score against one guy u know. He scored against entire teams. He would beat the double team and take it to the rim past any center anyday.
I'm not comparing Hakeem vs. Mike, of course MJ is the greatest ever, his level of dominance is unrivalled. I'm debating the notion that the 95 Rockets wouldn't have beaten the Bulls with the way Hakeem was playing. IMO his matchup vs. Longely Wennington was a bigger mismatch than Jordan vs. Drexler.
people like you want to say how would the bulls big men stop hakeem,well lets remember something,a guard has the ball in their hands constantly whether they be the point guard or shooting guard. a center on the other hand has to have points, bring them the ball,or throw it to them in the low post,
Well if you watched Hakeem, despite him being a 7 footer he clearly wasn't limited to the painted area and could score from anywhere within the 3 pt. line. He wasn't your typical stand in the paint and dunk player like Shaq.
i'll answer that,jordan dominates big men by constantly driving inside,and by them not being able to do a damn thing about keeping him out of there,thats how he dominates big men fushengalex,
Zopoundsakpase....the bottom line is while I'd never in my life bet against MJ except here, you're not winning an NBA title in ANY era without some sort of interior toughness.
As the Bulls proved in their dynasty you don't need to have a dominant offensive big-post man or PG to win. But as spectacular as they were they needed rugged Grant/Cartwright and later Rodman to do dirty work to win titles. 94-95 was when they were most vulnerable.
cartwright was a non factor with his six points a game,grant,he had his moments but,he certainly wasn't an offensive powerhouse,the fact reamins, you still have to score the basket ball and play defense,
so in that case,since kukoc can score,and rodman can't throw the ball in the ocean,i would say kukoc is more important to the bulls winning,and kicking the shit out the rockets,you lose again my fruity friend
thats what i'm trying to get you to see,you can play defense all you want but if you can't score then it doesn't matter you have to have both working in unison,shaq and david robinson both have to have people bring them the ball,to score their points jordan,isn't handicapped by that factoid.
you just got finished saying that neither shaq nor robinson could stop hakeem,so how is having grant or cartwright going to change anything. they're not going to match hakeem's offensive output anyway,and they're not going to stop him on the defensive end either. according to your own example,
now go hide with your tail between your legs jordan could win win anyone,didn't matter if it was cartwright or grant,or longely or kuckoc,actually Kukoc is a more versatile scorer than grant,and a way better scorer than cartwright,so you lose and i win gtfo of here retard
Well well what do we have here....looks like Zopund's getting a tad bit heated I daresay.
Hmmm....me wonders why if Jordan could win with Kukoc at PF, why after his defeat to Orlando he promtly ran to management and demanded they sign someone with some interior defence (hence getting that Rodman guy). But all you're telling me is how great and versatile Kukoc was and he was sent to the bench in 95-96???....Uh huh.
well,i guess jordan won because rodman was scoring all those points,a breath taking 5 points a game,wow he really contributed,get really moron,rodman got lit up by other forwards,if jordan doesn't score and rebound the bulls don't win any games,you can only rebound but so much moron before you have to actually do something with the ball,
Zopound.....for you to lambaste Rodman for a 5 ppg average as the determining factor to what he brings to a team is hilarious?
Yes Kukoc is more important to Bulls success than Rodman in their best 72-10 season even though he was subjected to the bench from the get-go when they acquired Rodman?
and another thing rodman was known to be a psycho,who do you suppose keep him in line, so he could perform his function,which is one dimensional i might add,the bulls got no offensive production from three out of the five positions on the basketball court,point guard,powerforward and center,and still won six championships,yeah i'm sure that's because of grant,and rodman,and lets not forget cartwright,lmao moron
Wow so only you have time to worry if Rodman was psycho or not, or whether MJ did or didn't keep him in line. Irrelevant in the long term picture. Bottom line is he was the missing piece they didn't have in '95 playoffs.
I guess MJ made him into a great rebounder/defender too and he couldn't do anything on a court as a Piston?
And the Bulls were winning titles in years where MJ averaged his highest point totals of his career with 35 & 37 ppg averages. Weren't they?
no jordan was the missing piece not rodman,retard,because pippen got to the semi finals,a couldn't win shit,when jordan came back they won three straight,rodman,rebounder,exclusively ,jordan scorer,rebounder,assist man,steals ,motivator,need i go on,oh and lets not forget rodman was on the spurs before he came to the bulls moron,did the spurs win anything,rodman was on the lakers,did they win anything,once again i own you
@zopoundsakpase Rebounding and assists edge goes to Pippen. Don't hate on Jordan's co-pilot -and yes I said it because it needed to be said . Hate other teams if you need to -fine, but hating on players who assisted your favorite player and your favorite team to win the six championships you speak of is a new brand of scandalous. The Best Player in the game received help from Mr. Triple-double threat & from less heralded players who deferred their stats to play in the triangle offense and win
during his championships,he still was surroundedd by offensively challanged players,and still won six championships in eight years,getting no offensive output from key positions on the floor,point guard powerforward,and center,the goat ever,gtfo of here retard
@zopoundsakpase During the 8 years in question, Pippen averaged 17 pts, 6.9 rb, and 4.7 asst. He was a point forward so the stats and his role would dispel at least some of the myths you've put out.
Remember, Jordan tried the "I gotta score 'cause nobody else will" experiment from 1984-90' and was schooled by quality teams inc. Cavs (Mark Price). Why is it so hard to admit that the best basketball player on the planet received help winning championships from teammates in a team sport?
@zopoundsakpase : Lemme guess, it was Michael who kept him in line. Michael also turned water into wine and he went on a hunger strike to protest inhumanity. Oh wait, that was Jesus and Gandhi. Michael Jordan is just human and you are just the human who is sucking his dick. Get in line he already had dick riders. Given his persona, he wouldn't respect your defamation of his teammates. Read the book, "Whose Better, Whose Best by Bill Simons, so you could get an informed perspective.
@gjslaughter • hey shit hole don't you mean pippen didn't win shit after jordan? since he was the one who played for years after jordan retired?and stop carrying his sidekick ass? hey fuckin whore didn't pippen play with hakeem the loser dream and charles barkely and still couldn't win a fuckin title? in the shortned nba season of 98 99? lmfao. pippen is a fuckin loser he made noone better asswipe...... jordan the reason the bulls won the most games all time.
@gjslaughter • pippen the reason the bulls lost to the fuckin knicks who jordan buried in the playoffs. you sound like a fuckin lunatic bitch..... jordan the scorer and defender.... pippen? the choke artist who never hit a game winner to win a series. jordan the player who eneded his bulls career with a game winner too win the series.... get the fuck out bitch. pippen was a nobody jordan was the only one who could win with the loser bitch skill set lmfao you lose.
@gjslaughter • yeah jordan higher career assist average..... and since both played most of their careers with the bulls that means jordan averaged more assist than pippen while playing on the bulls. that means jordan was the real playermaker on the bulls cunt......that means pippen passed the ball to jordan like a good little sidekick. he had no other option because he sure couldn't create a shot for someone else.
@gjslaughter • seeing he never saw double teams like jordan did you fuckin butt hurt virgin faggot lmfao. jordan has the record for highest assist average in finals history for a non point guard...... where is pippen's record for assist ????whore motherfucker..... yeah that's right nowhere to be found. pippen coming into his own? no you mean jordan ordering those motherfuckers around till they did what he wanted them too lmfao the end.
@gjslaughter • btw if you can't understand win shares then you're a fuckin moron...... win shares takes into consideration everything each player does on the court you stupid fuck. so it took into consideration pippen's assist and rebounding and he still fell way short bitch. you know why? because jordan is better at everything than pippen except rebouding lmfao
@gjslaughter • jordan averages less turnovers than pippen having more possessions lmfao...... that's fuckin pathetic for pippen bitch. jordan had the ball more on offense and turned the ball over less than pippen lmfao. pippen's job was to bring the ball up the floor and the stupid fuck couldn't even do that without costing the bulls points..... with his bullshit ballhandling ablitites lmfao he isn't shit compared to jordan you lose whore
@gjslaughter • runs are overrated you fuckin faggot!!!!!! jordan dpoy of the league where is pippen's dpoy?? since he's so good on defense???????? where is pippen's steals titles since he has more steals than jordan which he doesn't but i digress lmfao.
@gjslaughter where is any fuckin notable thing that pippen did on defense...... where he has an award or record too show for it????? i'll tell you cunt there is none because pippen's defense is fuckin overrated just like his impact in the bulls championships
@gjslaughter jordan six finals mvps over the so called all around play of scottie pippen. hey piece of shit did you know your boy pippen only shot 50 percent in the playoffs twice
• ? lmfao. yeah and you think this fuck is responsible for the bulls winning games? hey fuckin cocksucker did you know most of pippen's assist were too jordan?
@gjslaughter • jordan missed less shots than pippen too lmfao......get the fuck out of here asshole. yeah win shares mean everything bastard.......they show pippen was a sidekick and that jordan's contributions to the team won them championships......while fuckin pippen caught fuckin migraine headaches and refused to go back into a game against the knicks where toni kucko hit the game winner lmfao.... yeah pussy bitch.
if grant was so great why couldn't he do shit with hakeem when the magic beat the bulls ding bat,aanswer that,did you forget about that,the only reason the bulls didn't make it to the conf finals was because jordan wasn't himself and lacked good wind,while playing long minutes,get it straight
lmao at you,role players play a role,they're supposed be able to perform a certain function,if they can't what good are they,but ultimatley you will have to score and defend,and jordan did that the best on the bulls,how many times must you lose
Who cares about guards whether it's Clyde or Sherman Douglas if you're MJ. Guards and Forwards were appetizers. MJ liked to dominate the big guys because they were the only ones who challenged him in efficiency. In the end, MJ ended up being more efficient than them all - ever.
Hoops, that's like comparing apples and oranges. How would MJ "dominate" Hakeem if they're not matched up head to head? I'd agree if you were saying: "MJ led teams were dominating big guy led teams".
I'm sorry, but imo the loss of defensive lynchpin H.Grant, not to mention Cartwright as evidenced by the Orlando series would've left a huge hole Hakeem playing at his best would've exploited.
Yes, center dominated teams of course. There is no such thing as a guard-dominant team outside MJ. I mentioned before in another post that if MJ hadn't retired, it would have been great to see him battle Hakeem. I'd say they would have split the 2 titles.
I agree with your assessment, especially with the 93-94 Rockets who would've had no chance vs. the Bulls imo had MJ not retired, they weren't versatile enough offensively to have a chance and needed a 2nd star to push the Bulls. 94-95 team I could debate given the loss of Bulls frontcourt personnel.
BTW thank you very much for posting these videos, while Hakeem is my favourite player ever, I often view your mostly MJ videos, it's a treat to watch. Thanks a lot.
MJ just 3 or 4 years in the league and he's already being called "the great Michael Jordan". Just shows how damn good the guy was.
uberathlete 8 months ago
MJ with with the block party, the two handed crush over Sampson, the breakaway rim-rocker on Olajuwon (who totally gave up on the play) and the all-around dominance in this game shows just why he dominated the NBA with an iron grip during his playing career. Danny Ainge (and many others since) once called MJ "The only player that simply has NO weaknesses.
RAV52 1 year ago
Ah, then Jordan returned to the game in a Wizards uniform and got crossed over by younger legs, nightly. But, you conveniently left that part out just as you left you his marginal playoff success in the years leading up to the championships. To let you tell it, Jordan came from the womb with an MVP and a fist full of championships -with no help from anybody. HA!
gjslaughter 1 year ago
@gjslaughter hey dog shit Jordan a higher career assist average than pippen while having the highest scoring average in nba history you stupid fuck, that's an incredible stat you fuckin moron, what are you talking about bitch? Jordan higher career assist average than pippen in the regular season, playoffs, and finals bitch. Jordan a higher career assist average than pippen in all those realms......while having the highest scoring average of all time in all of them lmao bastard.
zopoundsakpase 1 year ago
@gjslaughter Do you even comprehend what that means? That means Jordan was ten times more productive than pippen on offense you fuckin imbecile. Which is why Jordan has the highest win share average in bulls history and the fourth highest win share totals in NBA history. Take your own fuckin advice and learn basketball bitch. Jordan has fewer turnovers than pippen in the regular season, playoffs, and finals bitch...... with a higher usage rate lmao.
zopoundsakpase 1 year ago
@gjslaughter That means Jordan wasted less offensive possessions than pippen while, having the ball more on offensive end of the floor....lmfao. That means the bulls scored more points when Jordan had the ball in his hand on offense not pippen, you fuckin hag. Get the fuck back under you rock bitch, you can't fuckin argue with me you virgin faggot. You spam my fuckin account for this bullshit?
zopoundsakpase 1 year ago
@gjslaughter You email me with this? When I haven't posted on this video in 3 fuckin years? Lmao you no life, no girl having virgin faggot…..you have that much time on you spermed covered hands? Got damn you're fuckin pathetic bitch, get a fuckin life and stop fuckin your farm animals.
zopoundsakpase 1 year ago
@gjslaughter Jordan with a dpoy award, I’ll ask again where pippen’s awards are on defense bitch? Jordan three steals titles and, is number two all time in total steals and, in the top five in steals per game in nba history bitch once again pippen isn't any of this and, these defensive accolades where accomplished with Jordan retiring twice.
zopoundsakpase 1 year ago
@gjslaughter where are pippen's steals titles? You little fuckin cream puff. don't tell me about a fuckin first team defense when, that honor is based on positional play rather than actually being better than the entire league at defense, which is what a dpoy is all about...... Jordan should have two dpoy not one. Pippen has shot 50 percent in the playoffs once in his entire career yet, he's so invaluable to Jordan?
zopoundsakpase 1 year ago
@gjslaughter Lmfao asshole he was a fuckin liability that Jordan turned into an asset. Pippen played with hall of famers and top ten talent after Jordan retired and, he still couldn't win shit you fuckin piece of trash.
zopoundsakpase 1 year ago
@gjslaughter The facts are mike= 6 finals mvps over pippen Pippen = no finals mvps over Jordan
.....MIKE AND SCOTTIES LAST GAME AS TEAMMATES....
JUNE 14TH, 1998....game 6 of the NBA finals vs. jazz...
Mike- 45 pts
Scottie- 8 pts
lmaooooo.......that’s not a typo!!.....45 to 8 in the last game they ever played as teammates.....plus mikes championship winner like I said pippen is a fuckin sidekick
zopoundsakpase 1 year ago
@gjslaughter jordan has won four titles with pippen averaging under 20 points per game in the playoffs lmfao, no all time great player has won that many titles with their second best scoring option averaging this pathetic scoring output while shooting all time pathetic field goals you lose
zopoundsakpase 1 year ago
Jordan: 5.3 assist, Pippen: 5:2 -HUGE DIFFERENCE. Also, referring to your comment "...[Pippen] had no other option [accept to pass to Jordan] he had no one else," that doesn't make sense (Jordan averaged around 30pts and the Bulls scored between 85-100pts, who). Then again, you are not using common sense let alone logic.
Youngster please give it up and resume your old activities of ...sitting in dark room, lighting up a Meth pipe, and masterbate to old Jordan highlights you tweaker.
gjslaughter 1 year ago
@gjslaughter Yet you bring up Jordan not winning while playing as an old man with guys like Popeye Jones and jhadi white? Lmao you fuckin dirt bag. Jordan played with fuckin bums and still almost made the playoffs at 39 and 40. Pippen played with hakeem and Barkley and got shitted on, pippen played with rasheed Wallace and bonzi wells, and lost to the fuckin Lakers with a lead in the fourth quarter you fuckin clit.
zopoundsakpase 1 year ago
@zopoundsakpase: You are an idiot. Learn to read and interpret stats correctly. You can begin with assessing Jordan's playoff wins prior to Pippen and others joining the Bulls. Any legit basketball fans, even those who are not fond of Jordan, Pippen, or the Bulls, would recognize that Jordan and Pippen served each other well.
gjslaughter 1 year ago
@zopoundsakpase: You are a bias idiot ...learn to read stats correctly plz.
gjslaughter 1 year ago
This according to Wikipedia "...[Pippen] led the league in steals (232) and steals per game (2.94) in 1994–95. His 10 NBA All-Defensive honors and 8 NBA All-Defensive First Team honors are each one shy of the NBA record." So, know what you are talking about before opening your mouth or, at least, make the disclaimer that you are a fake-ass fan before doing so.
gjslaughter 1 year ago
This according to Wikipedia "...Led the league in steals (232) and steals per game (2.94) in 1994–95. His 10 NBA All-Defensive honors and 8 NBA All-Defensive First Team honors are each one shy of the NBA record." So, know what you are talking about before opening your mouth or, at least, make the disclaimer that you are a fake-ass fan before doing so.
gjslaughter 1 year ago
You appear to be young (at least I am hoping this is the case given your lack of maturity). This would explain your heavy emphasis on Jordan and lack of respect for the other members of the championship Bulls teams. Maybe you're just a retroactive Bulls fan, dick riding on Jordan highlights since you didn't have the benefit of watching numerous reg. season games in realtime. Had you done this, you would see that even the greatest player on earth had flaws and that his teammates were valuable
gjslaughter 1 year ago
Jordan went on to play for the Wizards and couldn't win. So, he isn't perfect. He made commercials in the past stating as much. Stop sucking his dick so much would you. Pippen, playoffs with Rockets, Western Conf. finals with Portland.
Btw, iif you were a Jordan fan, than I can assume you were a Bulls fan. If this is the case, stop hating on the Pippen, the second best player to suit of for Chicago.
gjslaughter 1 year ago
@zopoundsakpase: Your memory is selective. Jordan came back after retirement yet again, as a Washington Wizard, and failed to make it to the playoffs. Pippen had more post-Chicago Bull success than Jordan. And yes, Pippen and Hakeem played together, both past their prime, and failed to win a championship ...what was your point. Lastly, when insulting others, write more clearly ...you run the risk of looking like an idiot otherwise.
gjslaughter 1 year ago
You know I'd rather watch these highlights than watch the bitches in the league today.Thanks for posting.
dolphinbuc 1 year ago
What a dunk by Pip at 4:16 :D
reper1301 1 year ago
There is no way Oscar could average a triple double all season long in the NBA today. Dont get me wrong he would still do good. To people that say the NBA back then was lacking in skill and talent should watch some videos of Dr J in the early 70's he was amazing
GoingOn9Lives 2 years ago
@GoingOn9Lives It's hard to say that he wouldn't but it wouldn't be bcuz of talent tho. There were so many more possesions back then so all stats were higher. That's how guys averaged over 20 boards bcuz they played faster. But with that said, Lebron has as good a chance as any1 to average a triple double this year because he won't have to score as much as he had to in cleveland. He gets a lot of people a lot of easy baskets and it's no stretch for the rebounds bcuz they don't have a center.
randycash39 1 year ago
I know this post is a few months behind but to the gentlemen talking about wilt and russell there is not doubt in my mind they would be great today. Wilt was a superior athlete in great conditioning however there is no way he would average 50 PPG a season. I can see him averaging 35 in the late 80's early 90's but the late 50;s and early 60's were the structuring days of the NBA. Wilt just happened to be ahead of his time. Oscar was also the first big guard in the NBA
GoingOn9Lives 2 years ago
Hakeem is the best center ever
kadees21 2 years ago
shaq wilt and abdul jabbar. shut up
mkid10000 2 years ago
I felt his competitive fire... He's challenging everyone. Doing impossible things...
waihong001 2 years ago
This video is a chopped up edited mess.
freelancepimp 2 years ago
did you see how jordan was very professional and sportsman like even after he dunked on ralph? another reason he is the greatest.. kobe is a bitch
corysmolly 2 years ago 9
@corysmolly MJ had great respect for Sampson. He almost went to UVA because of Sampson because he always wanted to play with a dominant center.
spitnificent 1 year ago
@corysmolly you have no respect for the game of basketball my friend, really
SuperSORAW 8 months ago
that was ralp sampson's rockets.. akeem was the #2 man till ralph left...
corysmolly 2 years ago
@corysmolly : Not exactly. Olajuwon was more consistent and more dominant than Sampson. Hakeem, with the exception of his rookie year, had better stats that Raloh. In his second year Hakeem asserted himself as the team's most dominant player as evidenced by his NBA final's v Boston Celtics: Hakeem -26 pts & 11.8 rbs , Sampson's 20pts, 10 rbs and by making All NBA when Sampson failed to.
gjslaughter 1 year ago
@corysmolly Remember, Sampson was traded to Golden State after servicing Houston for just 3 years largely because"the Dream" had the middle on lock and Houston felt they could trade [Sampson] to get a more complete team. In other words despite his talent Ralph was disposable. The Dream = best player in Rocket franchise history (since Moses Malone played just five season with them -otherwise one could make a case for him). Plainly, Hakeem is the shit.
gjslaughter 1 year ago
raw athleticism,unmatched intelligence,pure skill and huge hands this man had no excuse to not be th greatest...
Rohitevelmathew 2 years ago
You missed his most important attribute, the desire and dedication to put in the work on and off the court in order to be the greatest. No one has ever worked as hard as Michael Jordan did.
ZeHousen 2 years ago 3
was in th bak of ma mind...just didnt put it...u know ones mind stumbles when one witnesses greatness...
Rohitevelmathew 2 years ago
haha very understandable, and besides that's what I'm here for
ZeHousen 2 years ago
u can tell doug collins is the type of coach that lets the best player do whatever he wants
josette5 2 years ago
talk about filling up the stat sheet.
randycash39 2 years ago
hakeem along with kareem and shaq make up the top tier of centers ever
probablychris 2 years ago
what about bill russel and wilt? did you give this little list any thought?
randycash39 2 years ago
i'm going pure skill, wilt and russel couldn't have achieved what they have have they played in the 90's with ewing robinson hakeem shaq and other great bigmen, or even the 80s, wilt may have been a 30-12 player in his prime, but nowhere near the bloated stats he allocated in the early 60's
on the other hand, put any of those 3 in the era of russell and wilt and you would have dominance at its very purest.
probablychris 2 years ago
This is one of the most absurd arguments i have heard in sports.
first of all it's almost impossible to compare players from diff. eras but discounting wilt and russel is just amazingly backwards. I'm not sure how many people would agree with you.
then you go on to say "other great bigmen" as to say that there are more big men that were better that wilt and russel, you can't be talking about the same sport that i'm talking about.
i don't think you gave consid and you had to defend ur list.
randycash39 2 years ago
it's in the general consensus that the main reason wilt and rusesll dominated was because of their skill AND the fact that players were simply a lot less athletic and as a whole probably a good foot shorter and less stronger than contemporary basketball, so yes you can compare players from diff eras, just like the kobe vs jordan, this era vs jordan era argument.
i meant other great bigmen, not that they're better, but that they wont allow 20 boards and 30-40 ppg on a daily basis,
probablychris 2 years ago
I wouldn't say a whole foot shorter but there was a good height difference.
But with all of that said i think you should check wilt's background, this man was a freak of nature. He ran like a 10 second 100, did the 440 in 49 seconds and killed everyother track and field event . Just pointing out that he was an athlete to the fullest. Name one big man on ur list that you think could do that. He'd be great right now, don't forget he played at 275 lbs
4000 pts & 2000 rbs in the same season.
randycash39 2 years ago
Plus you ask any real basketball historian who is the best center of all time is and they'll probalbly say wilt. ask who is the best winner of all time and they'll probably say russel.
what's your answer to these questions? This'll be interesting.
randycash39 2 years ago
i don't have an answer to these questions as i don't know any real basketball historian
i'm sorry if I offended you in anyway, i just posted my opinions and defended
but can i ask you something? do you think wilt would be able to avg 25-30 rpg and 40-50 ppg in the 90's? do you think russell could have gone toe to toe with the likes of hakeem shaq ewing and robinson, maybe even barkley and rodman in terms of pure rebounding?
probablychris 2 years ago
and when people talk about greatest center of all time, usually they take into consideration the intangibles, like russells streak and legacy, wilts intimidation
but who knows, maybe they could have surppassed the great centers of the 90s but thats something we'll never know, for me, i gotta take everything into consideration, like league rules and avg height etc... thats how i think
thats why i believe kobes 81 was a lot more impressive than wilts 100, you probably think otherwise, i respec
probablychris 2 years ago
i agree with you, but that's why i said from the start it's hard to compare players from diff eras. kobe's 81 was impressive, but you can't discount wilt's 100 either.
randycash39 2 years ago
the rules are so much different now so i don't think he would have had such averages but he did so you can't take it away.
let's not talk about what ifs, lets go on the facts and the fact is he did average that and russel did win eight in a row and eleven in thirteen years.
and i respect your opinion, i was just ofering mine. at the same time i think your opinion should make sense.
randycash39 2 years ago
the rockets are 1 of 2 teams jordan has a losing record against in his career.
calj00 3 years ago
Always great 2 see the top 2 players of their time battle at such a young age (Michael & Hakeem) . I laugh at the notion of their being a better off guard than MJ, 2day's 2 guards may be just as athletic OR EVEN MORE ATHLETIC, but they lack MJ's intelligence & toughness. Mike's shot selection is what made him so efficient, he didnt' jack up 3 pointers & he was relentless at getting 2 the rim. Again this shows his toughness, what with the physical nature of the game back then.
alcorderyjr 3 years ago
interesting what doug collins said at the start.. dont challenge jordan or he can take it to the next level.. thats what makes a great player
jacobtubejacob 3 years ago
At the end of the day the NBA continued with or without Michael Jordan. To deminish the Rockets success because Jordan wasn't playing is basically saying the years he played were the only years that mattered.
Also the ROckets in there second championship sweeped the Magic who ahd beaten the Bulls with Jordan.
I'm not saying Houston would have won both years if Jordan was in teh league. I'm just saying the Rockets two championships should not be diminished.
Hulkamania4eva 3 years ago
jordan is 2 athletic and overratted underatted every thin you could name he's the total package
LaMoReNiTaChUlA1112 3 years ago
not even with barkley,drexler,olwajuwon and a good bench the bulls went 6 times to the finals with 2 different rosters except jordan and pippen the first 3 peat was 91-93 and the 2nd was 96-98 but yeah i would have liked to see them in the finals at least once
JCR1992 3 years ago
5 steals and 5 blocks
Hypebusta 3 years ago
I take hakeem over any big since kareem, duncan would not have any titles if he played in those days
chipratts 3 years ago 3
yeah i think hakeem better than a lot of centers he destroyed ewing and robinson as well and beat shaq when he was with the magic
JCR1992 3 years ago
were is hakeem 1992 beat bulls 24pts 11 reb 8 BLKS 3blks on jordan who went 9 for 26 for 22 pts,and 28pts 13 reb 7 ast 4 stl 5 blks SICK! jordan 26 11reb 9 for 23 oh yeah we owned them in regular season's. that whould have been a DREAM MATCHUP ROCKETS V BULLS sucked it never happened
ramtruth3 3 years ago
yeah u lucky it never happened or hakeem would have 0 championships and jordan would have 8
JCR1992 3 years ago
lol it seems your a homer, im a realiest, first ring dream had would be a push cuz they had a tough defensive team, and mad max frustrated mj, second ring HELL NAW rockets were TOO DEEP
ramtruth3 3 years ago
Nah hell no bulls would've gotten them in 5 or 6 in 94 because they barely beat a knick team that barely beat a jordanless bull team then in 95 bulls would have beaten them again with ease and MJ was never frusturated with Vernon maxwell he put up numbers against houston and he put 48 on him when max was in philly. now don't get me wrong i think hakeem is possibly the best center ever and they did have a good team but if they were that great why couldn't they get back 2 the finals
JCR1992 3 years ago
Those same Knicks took the Bulls to 7 games in 92', and 6 games in 93'. What's your point? The Bulls having a good season in 94' just showed how good that team really was even Jordanless. Jordan did play in 95' so why are you saying the Bulls "would have" etc.. When Jordan returned in 95', the Bulls ended the season as the hottest team in basketball, and in the first round had an impressive 3-1 series win over a higher seeded Hornets team. They lost to the Magic in 6, & the Rockets swept Magic.
2008sALINAs 3 years ago
first of all the 94 bulls was JORDANLESS so with jordan that would have put them over the top and would have beat NY and eventually houston then in 95 if jordan wasn't rusty coming back from an 18 month retirment they would have beat houston again even with Drexler coming that year and etc
JCR1992 3 years ago
rusty? In 95' playoffs Jordan was averaging nearly 32 ppg, 7 rpg, & 5 ast. On top of that, MJ was shooting 49% from the field during that post-season. Basically he was on pace for another NBA Finals MVP. Rusty? Yeah right.
2008sALINAs 3 years ago
well u idiot obviously u started watching jordan in 95 because u could see he was not himself ask anybody and they will tell u
JCR1992 3 years ago
It's hard to imagine Jordan losing in his prime so i can see how people would come up with the conclusion that he was out of shape or rusty. Just because you make some mistakes at the end of some games doesn't mean you aren't the same player it means your human.
If nething numbers don't lie. Jordan didn't put up just "good numbers" he was putting up numbers that were on pace of his posteason numbers in 96', 97' & 98'.
2008sALINAs 3 years ago
Its not all about numbers, anyone who watched Jordan at the end of 95 saw that he wasnt playing the game the way all of us knew him to. Granted he still got good numbers but he was also constantly making adjustments to his game because his capabilities athletically werent on the same level they were before he left.
cdbleb3 3 years ago
I'm not trying to bash Jordan. Imo it had nothing to do with Jordan physically or mentally that year. The 94-95 Bulls just weren't the same as the 91-93 Bulls. They had added Kukoc, Longley, Kerr, and Harper all on the roster that were new. Imo the teeam just wasn't a cohesive unit yet. They needed more time to bond together, and picking Dennis Rodman didn't hurt either.
2008sALINAs 3 years ago
I cant disagree with the point about the new players I agree 100% that it was a factor. But youre saying that a whole new team had no impact on Jordan mentally? He took time to mold the players in 91-93. Youre also saying that taking 18 months off of basketball to play a different sport that required a totally different type of training had no impact on him physically? Im not saying he was out of shape Im just saying he wasnt in the same basketball shape he was before retiring.
cdbleb3 3 years ago
I think it's safe to say even the Jordan from 96'-98' wasn't the same Jordan from 91'-93. Like I said I don't think it was anything physical with Jordan but that's just me. I'm not saying this is true but some might say Jordan might have had the edge on some of the other superstars for not having to have played through an entire 82 game season. Either way I'm a rational person, and I can see where your coming from. It's nice to debate with someone that doesn't revert to name calling.
2008sALINAs 3 years ago
It still would'nt make a difference. The rockets use to wup the bulls ass in the regular season. Jordan could'nt score more than 20 points when he and bulls met the rockets. The rockets still would've won the champions so quit hatin.
chamilitary07 3 years ago
Well dumb ass Jordan lost the season series to utah in 1998 and look what happened and jordan scoring only 20 LMAO look at his stats numbers don't lie
JCR1992 3 years ago
First of ur the dumbass. You never really watched the rockets when they wupped the bulls at home or on the road not even utah has done that. When they had olajuwon, otis thorpe, and vernon maxwell. They was able to shut down micheal jordan and the bulls. It would've been a seven game match but the rockets would've still won the championships.
chamilitary07 3 years ago
ok u stupid fuck if the rockets lost in the semi finals and conference finals all the time to the eventual western conference champion (LA Portland Seattle and Utah twice) that means that they would go on to lose to the bulls so u piece of shit that shows houston would have lost to the bulls plus regular season doesn't matter it's about the playoffs anybody that KNOWS basketball knows that
JCR1992 3 years ago
The rockets still would've took it in the championships years. Their offense and defense was one of the best. Olajuwon and maxwell would've torn their asses up and won the championships so the stf and quit dick riding Jordan so much. I'm not gonna keep arguing with you.
chamilitary07 3 years ago 2
u can't keep arguing with me i'm right maxwell wtf could he do he couldn't stop jordan or pippen and hakeem is great he cause the most trouble for the bulls but still rodman would guard centers and bigger players and could play mind games
JCR1992 3 years ago
Vernon maxwell is known for stopping micheal jordan. He was able keep micheal jordan from scoring 40 points.Olajuwon dominated dennis redman too. Don't get me wrong I like micheal jordan and bulls too. He's one of my favorite players. The rockets and bulls were my favorite teams of during the decade. Robert horry was able to nail them 3's over everyone. Thatz the strategy that made the rockets a powerhouse.
chamilitary07 3 years ago
if the rockets were such a powerhouse why did they only go to the finals twice and vernon maxwell couldn't stop jordan from getting 40 points did u see when jordan scored 48 points on him and robert horry hitting threes is no big deal the bulls had paxon, b.j. steve kerr craig hodges. now the rockets were good but they werent better than the bulls
JCR1992 3 years ago
They were a powerhouse. Of courese they could stop mj and the bulls. I've seen the game when they wupped the bulls at home and on the road.
chamilitary07 3 years ago
when i would like to know now i do know houston beat them but they never whooped them and jordan was still getting 30+
JCR1992 3 years ago
So what!!! the bulls were 0-6 against cavaliers and still beat them in the playoffs when jordan hit that game winning shot.
bighare08 2 years ago
rockets got to finals 3 times...86,94&95
dp233332 3 years ago
@JCR1992 Rockets made it to the finals three times w/ Olajuwon. The upset defending Champions LA Lakers. The lost in game six to the very Celtics Team who swept the Bulls in the Eastern Conf. 1st round.
Also, the Bulls could have met the Rockets in the 1995 Finals had they not lost to a young-ass Shaq and Penny Hardaway (and yes Jordan had come back by then and although rusty, he was good enough, along side Pippin to make it to the Eastern Conf. Finals.
gjslaughter 1 year ago
@JCR1992 Hot dissing the Bulls Dynasty(s) but I am advocating for the Rockets to get their due respect. A basketball fan with integrity would not deny the Rocket's place in NBA history and he/she damn sure would question Hakeem. Btw, don't the Bulls, under Jordan, have a loosing record against Olajuwon's Rockets? Not saying Houston was superior but competition was certainly there. Recognize!
gjslaughter 1 year ago
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@chamilitary07 You sound defensive that the Rockets were only able to win a championship when Jordan wasn't around for a full season. I don't blame you though. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
RAV52 1 year ago
@JCR1992 The Bulls got thumped in the Eastern Conf. playoffs plenty of times (Boston, Detroit, Cleveland, and Orlando in case you forgot). Regarding the Rockets vs. the Bulls meeting in the playoffs and your selective memory and dishonest blame of the Rockets incompetence for not making that happen, refer to years 1986 and and 1995 when Jordan and Company were eliminated in the East and therefore could not play Houston. As great as YOUR Bulls were they still were met with competition.
gjslaughter 1 year ago
@JCR1992 If you are such a Bulls fan, why haven't you mentioned Pippen. He was damn near MVP of the league in Jordan's absence. In fact, the Bulls led by Scotty won 55 games. So, even if Jordan was rusty when he came back (although his superior stats in the 95' playoffs call into question the extent to which Jordan fans can claim "rusty") in theory the Bulls should have beat a young-ass Shaq and Penny combo. Oh, I forgot, Shaq dominated -then he went on to get dominated by Olajuwon.
gjslaughter 1 year ago
@JCR1992 Again, The Bulls have won enough and Jordan has certainly etched his name in sports history so there is no need to excuse make for or wash away from memory there years [his] Bulls did not "take it all." Hell the man is human not a Marvel Comic Character.
gjslaughter 1 year ago
not even with barkley,drexler,olwajuwon and a good bench the bulls went 6 times to the finals with 2 different rosters except jordan and pippen the first 3 peat was 91-93 and the 2nd was 96-98 but yeah i would have liked to see them in the finals at least once
JCR1992 3 years ago
I suppose your talkin about the 97' team that lost to the Jazz in the WCF. You call Eddie Johnson and Kevin Willis a deep bench?? The rest of players on that bench sucked. Imo if that Rockets team had had good bench, and a good point guard they could have gone all the way. Instead they had rookie Matt Maloney setting things up.
2008sALINAs 3 years ago
i do think they were Finals bound not championship bound because they almost forced a 7th game with utah but stockton hit a game winning 3 and yeah there bench was deep
JCR1992 3 years ago
deep with who? lol
2008sALINAs 3 years ago
@JCR1992 Yes, the Bulls were great but they were not perfect. Plz allow them to be human and stop trying to prove their legacy is legitimate when we already know it as. Also, stop hating on the Rockets especially when you know deep down that Olajuwon is a prototype for NBA centers and that he too, went through the greatest in his position to win championships (i.e. Ewing, Robinson, Mutombo -a defensive juggernaut, and the same Shaq that put the kabosh on the 95' Bulls final's hopes.
gjslaughter 1 year ago
haha look at doug collins. he has a small fro thing going.
samirk7788 4 years ago
Oh my god. That was a beautiful jab step around 4:50 something.
woanudk 4 years ago 2
this 88' version of jordan was crazy...o and i take hakeem over shaq anyday
gbm420 4 years ago
hakeem is my all time favorite!!
he is way better than shaq, hes just not a fat ass that travels and shoves everyone outta the way. shaq even admitted that hakeem was better
jamesanderson26 4 years ago 2
3:12=why hes called AIR JORDAN!
coolster 4 years ago
Dennis Rodman is a HOF
MIKESOWELL 4 years ago
Bulls would have never wona chapionship without mj he is the best player to be in the nba so far
Hueyriley11 4 years ago
i think they couldve had at least one,
deadfresh10 4 years ago
Naw man with out mj they got zip. Mj was the leader in the clutch.
Hueyriley11 4 years ago
You're forgettin about Scottie Pippen, the most versatile player to ever play in the NBA. When MJ retired the first time, Pip took over! Got the All-Star MVP! Led the Bulls to the Conference playoffs. So I think they might have won one without MJ!
Warmanns 4 years ago
Lol. To the conference where they faced knicks and Lost and Pip didnt even take the last second buzzer beater. Tony kucko did.
Hueyriley11 4 years ago
actually simpleton cocksucker warmanns,pippen didn't led the bulls to the conference finals bitch he led them to the semi finals,and led is a strong word since kucko hit the game winning shot to make sure the bulls kept playing.
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
@zopoundsakpase And Jordan scored 63 pts against the eventual 1986 Champion Celtics but still lost the game and was swept. He was Pippen-less. I can think of about 25 other teams that would have killed to get a point-forward, defensive monster like Scotty. Shit, Jordan ain't mad that Pippen landed on his team -trust me!
gjslaughter 1 year ago
pippen was a seven point per game scorer when he came into the nba. after playing with jordan for 6 years he became much better, but still had no real offensive game,and struggled as a shooter.
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
@zopoundsakpase: Because he wasn't a pure shooter, Pippen perfected banking the ball of the backboard. Most players cannot do this. Also, you shouldn't forget that Pippen was a defensive nightmare for opponents and he could guard positions 1-4 with success. This had to have helped Jordan to save some of his energy for scoring. Just as Pippin should thank Jordan, Jordan should thank him. In 1996, you had the number 1 player playing with a top five player ...no fair (lol).
gjslaughter 1 year ago
but they didnt win a title w/o mj there and pippen didnt lead them to one so i dont get ur point...plenty of ppl won all star mvps and dont have rings so thats besides the point
gbm420 4 years ago
Tell us something we don't know. What's your point?
jeanrollan 4 years ago
dam Jordans fast as fuc
Deadpool013 4 years ago
5 steals and 5 blocks??? Oh my goodness. Defensive specialist is Michael Jordan.
28sphinx23 4 years ago
Jordan and his Bulls can easily stop the rockets.even with Clyde during 95 and the Rockets where lucky against the knicks in 94.you cant stop Jordan thats true but you all forgot that isiah thomas and joe dumars' pistons beated him in 3 times in a row.
jvcforce1 4 years ago
jvcforce1...yeah right. The Bulls with zero interior presence having Kukoc at PF and Longley at centre vs. Hakeem playing the best post-season ball of any player in NBA history? Gimme a break. That's a bigger mismatch than Michael vs. Clyde at SG.
FuShengAlex 4 years ago
Do you think that Longley and Kukoc made the Bulls better or some?no way,Pippen,Jordan,Grant,Paxson made the Bulls better.if Jordan didn't made his first retirement he could easily beat the Rockets twice in 94 and 95.but the chances were short cause of the Knicks,the Magic and the loss of his father.
jvcforce1 4 years ago
Uhhhh, I never implied they "made" the Bulls, I said they had zero interior presence. Perhaps you didn't watch the interior domination by the Magic in the 95 playoffs. They didn't exactly sign Rodman to run the point you know.
FuShengAlex 4 years ago
Magic was good in 95 cause Jordan wasn't good how he always was.he didn't focus during that game.
jvcforce1 4 years ago
Riiiiight. Hakeem averaged 35 ppg vs. David Robinson in the playoffs, and he averaged 33 ppg vs. Shaq in the Finals. MJ NEVER faced a one-on-one talent as great as either Shaq or DRob in the playoffs. Think about it, 33 ppg vs. Shaq, and you're telling me about what the Bulls would've done to Hakeem playing the greatest any centre's ever played. Yeah right.
FuShengAlex 4 years ago
How many times has MJ averaged above 30 ppg in the playoffs? Virtually every series of every year. Nobody brought it more than MJ in playoff time. Hakeem could be a dangerous force but so was MJ. Even more for that matter. It would be one hell of a series.
rrTale 4 years ago
MJ averaged 30 ppg, yes. But against all-time greats, aside from Clyde who isn't even amongst the top 10 shooting guards ever? John Starks, Bryon Russell, Dan Marjele?
I think what Hakeem did in the 95 playoffs is as good as anything MJ ever did in the post-season. To destroy DRob, and outplay Shaq in consecutive series (not including outscoring Ewing by nearly 10 ppg, 1 yr earlier) is legendary.
FuShengAlex 4 years ago
Centers are big and dominant players. Well they were back then. It's natural that Hakeem had to face big guys, i give him credit but its not like he was 6'7. He was as tall or taller than his competition. And very skilled too no doubt. MJ didnt score against one guy u know. He scored against entire teams. He would beat the double team and take it to the rim past any center anyday.
rrTale 4 years ago
I'm not comparing Hakeem vs. Mike, of course MJ is the greatest ever, his level of dominance is unrivalled. I'm debating the notion that the 95 Rockets wouldn't have beaten the Bulls with the way Hakeem was playing. IMO his matchup vs. Longely Wennington was a bigger mismatch than Jordan vs. Drexler.
FuShengAlex 4 years ago
people like you want to say how would the bulls big men stop hakeem,well lets remember something,a guard has the ball in their hands constantly whether they be the point guard or shooting guard. a center on the other hand has to have points, bring them the ball,or throw it to them in the low post,
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
So that conversation about guards doesnt really apply to him since he could score from anywhere, he could post up anyone anyday.
rrTale 4 years ago
Well if you watched Hakeem, despite him being a 7 footer he clearly wasn't limited to the painted area and could score from anywhere within the 3 pt. line. He wasn't your typical stand in the paint and dunk player like Shaq.
FuShengAlex 4 years ago
i'll answer that,jordan dominates big men by constantly driving inside,and by them not being able to do a damn thing about keeping him out of there,thats how he dominates big men fushengalex,
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
Zopoundsakpase....the bottom line is while I'd never in my life bet against MJ except here, you're not winning an NBA title in ANY era without some sort of interior toughness.
As the Bulls proved in their dynasty you don't need to have a dominant offensive big-post man or PG to win. But as spectacular as they were they needed rugged Grant/Cartwright and later Rodman to do dirty work to win titles. 94-95 was when they were most vulnerable.
FuShengAlex 4 years ago
cartwright was a non factor with his six points a game,grant,he had his moments but,he certainly wasn't an offensive powerhouse,the fact reamins, you still have to score the basket ball and play defense,
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
Cartwright was a non-factor? Grant wasn't an offensive powerhouse?
I'm not even going to debate the rest of this......
FuShengAlex 4 years ago
so in that case,since kukoc can score,and rodman can't throw the ball in the ocean,i would say kukoc is more important to the bulls winning,and kicking the shit out the rockets,you lose again my fruity friend
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
thats what i'm trying to get you to see,you can play defense all you want but if you can't score then it doesn't matter you have to have both working in unison,shaq and david robinson both have to have people bring them the ball,to score their points jordan,isn't handicapped by that factoid.
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
you just got finished saying that neither shaq nor robinson could stop hakeem,so how is having grant or cartwright going to change anything. they're not going to match hakeem's offensive output anyway,and they're not going to stop him on the defensive end either. according to your own example,
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
now go hide with your tail between your legs jordan could win win anyone,didn't matter if it was cartwright or grant,or longely or kuckoc,actually Kukoc is a more versatile scorer than grant,and a way better scorer than cartwright,so you lose and i win gtfo of here retard
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
Well well what do we have here....looks like Zopund's getting a tad bit heated I daresay.
Hmmm....me wonders why if Jordan could win with Kukoc at PF, why after his defeat to Orlando he promtly ran to management and demanded they sign someone with some interior defence (hence getting that Rodman guy). But all you're telling me is how great and versatile Kukoc was and he was sent to the bench in 95-96???....Uh huh.
FuShengAlex 4 years ago
well,i guess jordan won because rodman was scoring all those points,a breath taking 5 points a game,wow he really contributed,get really moron,rodman got lit up by other forwards,if jordan doesn't score and rebound the bulls don't win any games,you can only rebound but so much moron before you have to actually do something with the ball,
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
Zopound.....for you to lambaste Rodman for a 5 ppg average as the determining factor to what he brings to a team is hilarious?
Yes Kukoc is more important to Bulls success than Rodman in their best 72-10 season even though he was subjected to the bench from the get-go when they acquired Rodman?
Good heavens you need help.
FuShengAlex 4 years ago
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zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
and another thing rodman was known to be a psycho,who do you suppose keep him in line, so he could perform his function,which is one dimensional i might add,the bulls got no offensive production from three out of the five positions on the basketball court,point guard,powerforward and center,and still won six championships,yeah i'm sure that's because of grant,and rodman,and lets not forget cartwright,lmao moron
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
Wow so only you have time to worry if Rodman was psycho or not, or whether MJ did or didn't keep him in line. Irrelevant in the long term picture. Bottom line is he was the missing piece they didn't have in '95 playoffs.
I guess MJ made him into a great rebounder/defender too and he couldn't do anything on a court as a Piston?
And the Bulls were winning titles in years where MJ averaged his highest point totals of his career with 35 & 37 ppg averages. Weren't they?
FuShengAlex 4 years ago
no jordan was the missing piece not rodman,retard,because pippen got to the semi finals,a couldn't win shit,when jordan came back they won three straight,rodman,rebounder,exclusively ,jordan scorer,rebounder,assist man,steals ,motivator,need i go on,oh and lets not forget rodman was on the spurs before he came to the bulls moron,did the spurs win anything,rodman was on the lakers,did they win anything,once again i own you
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
@zopoundsakpase Rebounding and assists edge goes to Pippen. Don't hate on Jordan's co-pilot -and yes I said it because it needed to be said . Hate other teams if you need to -fine, but hating on players who assisted your favorite player and your favorite team to win the six championships you speak of is a new brand of scandalous. The Best Player in the game received help from Mr. Triple-double threat & from less heralded players who deferred their stats to play in the triangle offense and win
gjslaughter 1 year ago
during his championships,he still was surroundedd by offensively challanged players,and still won six championships in eight years,getting no offensive output from key positions on the floor,point guard powerforward,and center,the goat ever,gtfo of here retard
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
@zopoundsakpase During the 8 years in question, Pippen averaged 17 pts, 6.9 rb, and 4.7 asst. He was a point forward so the stats and his role would dispel at least some of the myths you've put out.
Remember, Jordan tried the "I gotta score 'cause nobody else will" experiment from 1984-90' and was schooled by quality teams inc. Cavs (Mark Price). Why is it so hard to admit that the best basketball player on the planet received help winning championships from teammates in a team sport?
gjslaughter 1 year ago
@zopoundsakpase : Lemme guess, it was Michael who kept him in line. Michael also turned water into wine and he went on a hunger strike to protest inhumanity. Oh wait, that was Jesus and Gandhi. Michael Jordan is just human and you are just the human who is sucking his dick. Get in line he already had dick riders. Given his persona, he wouldn't respect your defamation of his teammates. Read the book, "Whose Better, Whose Best by Bill Simons, so you could get an informed perspective.
gjslaughter 1 year ago
@gjslaughter • hey shit hole don't you mean pippen didn't win shit after jordan? since he was the one who played for years after jordan retired?and stop carrying his sidekick ass? hey fuckin whore didn't pippen play with hakeem the loser dream and charles barkely and still couldn't win a fuckin title? in the shortned nba season of 98 99? lmfao. pippen is a fuckin loser he made noone better asswipe...... jordan the reason the bulls won the most games all time.
zopoundsakpase 1 year ago
@gjslaughter • pippen the reason the bulls lost to the fuckin knicks who jordan buried in the playoffs. you sound like a fuckin lunatic bitch..... jordan the scorer and defender.... pippen? the choke artist who never hit a game winner to win a series. jordan the player who eneded his bulls career with a game winner too win the series.... get the fuck out bitch. pippen was a nobody jordan was the only one who could win with the loser bitch skill set lmfao you lose.
zopoundsakpase 1 year ago
@gjslaughter • yeah jordan higher career assist average..... and since both played most of their careers with the bulls that means jordan averaged more assist than pippen while playing on the bulls. that means jordan was the real playermaker on the bulls cunt......that means pippen passed the ball to jordan like a good little sidekick. he had no other option because he sure couldn't create a shot for someone else.
zopoundsakpase 1 year ago
@gjslaughter • seeing he never saw double teams like jordan did you fuckin butt hurt virgin faggot lmfao. jordan has the record for highest assist average in finals history for a non point guard...... where is pippen's record for assist ????whore motherfucker..... yeah that's right nowhere to be found. pippen coming into his own? no you mean jordan ordering those motherfuckers around till they did what he wanted them too lmfao the end.
zopoundsakpase 1 year ago
@gjslaughter • btw if you can't understand win shares then you're a fuckin moron...... win shares takes into consideration everything each player does on the court you stupid fuck. so it took into consideration pippen's assist and rebounding and he still fell way short bitch. you know why? because jordan is better at everything than pippen except rebouding lmfao
zopoundsakpase 1 year ago
@gjslaughter • jordan averages less turnovers than pippen having more possessions lmfao...... that's fuckin pathetic for pippen bitch. jordan had the ball more on offense and turned the ball over less than pippen lmfao. pippen's job was to bring the ball up the floor and the stupid fuck couldn't even do that without costing the bulls points..... with his bullshit ballhandling ablitites lmfao he isn't shit compared to jordan you lose whore
zopoundsakpase 1 year ago
@gjslaughter • runs are overrated you fuckin faggot!!!!!! jordan dpoy of the league where is pippen's dpoy?? since he's so good on defense???????? where is pippen's steals titles since he has more steals than jordan which he doesn't but i digress lmfao.
zopoundsakpase 1 year ago
@gjslaughter where is any fuckin notable thing that pippen did on defense...... where he has an award or record too show for it????? i'll tell you cunt there is none because pippen's defense is fuckin overrated just like his impact in the bulls championships
zopoundsakpase 1 year ago
@gjslaughter jordan six finals mvps over the so called all around play of scottie pippen. hey piece of shit did you know your boy pippen only shot 50 percent in the playoffs twice
• ? lmfao. yeah and you think this fuck is responsible for the bulls winning games? hey fuckin cocksucker did you know most of pippen's assist were too jordan?
zopoundsakpase 1 year ago
@gjslaughter • jordan missed less shots than pippen too lmfao......get the fuck out of here asshole. yeah win shares mean everything bastard.......they show pippen was a sidekick and that jordan's contributions to the team won them championships......while fuckin pippen caught fuckin migraine headaches and refused to go back into a game against the knicks where toni kucko hit the game winner lmfao.... yeah pussy bitch.
zopoundsakpase 1 year ago
if grant was so great why couldn't he do shit with hakeem when the magic beat the bulls ding bat,aanswer that,did you forget about that,the only reason the bulls didn't make it to the conf finals was because jordan wasn't himself and lacked good wind,while playing long minutes,get it straight
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
lmao at you,role players play a role,they're supposed be able to perform a certain function,if they can't what good are they,but ultimatley you will have to score and defend,and jordan did that the best on the bulls,how many times must you lose
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
Who cares about guards whether it's Clyde or Sherman Douglas if you're MJ. Guards and Forwards were appetizers. MJ liked to dominate the big guys because they were the only ones who challenged him in efficiency. In the end, MJ ended up being more efficient than them all - ever.
hoopsencyclopedia 4 years ago
Hoops, that's like comparing apples and oranges. How would MJ "dominate" Hakeem if they're not matched up head to head? I'd agree if you were saying: "MJ led teams were dominating big guy led teams".
I'm sorry, but imo the loss of defensive lynchpin H.Grant, not to mention Cartwright as evidenced by the Orlando series would've left a huge hole Hakeem playing at his best would've exploited.
FuShengAlex 4 years ago
Yes, center dominated teams of course. There is no such thing as a guard-dominant team outside MJ. I mentioned before in another post that if MJ hadn't retired, it would have been great to see him battle Hakeem. I'd say they would have split the 2 titles.
hoopsencyclopedia 4 years ago
I agree with your assessment, especially with the 93-94 Rockets who would've had no chance vs. the Bulls imo had MJ not retired, they weren't versatile enough offensively to have a chance and needed a 2nd star to push the Bulls. 94-95 team I could debate given the loss of Bulls frontcourt personnel.
BTW thank you very much for posting these videos, while Hakeem is my favourite player ever, I often view your mostly MJ videos, it's a treat to watch. Thanks a lot.
FuShengAlex 4 years ago