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  • i think you should be on tv jeff

  • That episode was hilarious, hahah now I know who that guy was and it's funny

  • lundin is a hippy :)

  • Who is tex? please awnser :)

  • @ahighbalckguy look up tex grebner mishap it will be the top video

  • @PREDGUTZ97 lol he is a redneck hic :DDD

  • I think you're wrong about guys like Tex making us all look bad, The difference is that when a Hell's Angel kills someone, they don't try to outlaw Motorcycles. It took all of 15 after Jared Loughner shot Arizona Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords for the gun grabbers to start squawkin' about passing tougher gun laws. Tex is a TOOL, you say he's a friend and I get that, but he is the classic, stereotypical, redneck tool. Defending him is your prerogative, but it is beneath you to stand up for him.

  • Also, one other aspect in which there is a shared sense of representation is religion. I'm not meaning to start any fights or anything, just one more thing where lots of people share a similar label and the actions of one can be perceived as having consequences for the others.

  • You my friend are a very mature man. I agree, what Tosh said had very little impact on anyone's opinion guns. If we are going to talk about publicity, then we need to ensure that weapons get good publicity, by taking action. This means promoting safe use of weapons, even when legality is not directly concerned. This means attaching terms like gun owner to the admirable acts that we preform throughout our lives. I like you alot for upholding these ideas and representing our beloved weapons well.

  • Tex is a grown ass man. 'Nuff said.

  • Ok, ok you had me about to start talking bout stereotypes n all that but then that Brittney spears guy you make laugh so freaking hard im over it well played Jeff well played lol

  • all the things you ave compared to this i agree with you the only other issue in the sates you didnt comment on is one i feel that people give bad rep is pitbulls

    i have a loving pit that i have never had chained up or fenced in an she is cared for an loved very much an when some one neglects to take care of there dogs an they turn ugly i feel they are putting my dog at risk of being taken away

    but as far as gun people for gods sake he didnt hurt anyone but himself

  • No way would I post a video of me accidentally shooting myself.

  • You going to accidentally cut your throat shaving with a big ass knife?

  • AWW HE RUINED IT!!! NOW I CANT DRIVE MY FORD!! roflmao!! :D

  • you know, the only thing i dont like about his web redemption was his comment about the Desert Eagle. "How bout them Jews?" really tex? thats the only beef i had with it. i am a subscriber still, i watch his videos, but that was completely unnecessary.

  • who is tex 

  • Also i think his title is co owner of VALVe, gabe newell he loves knifes so theres a famous person that like knifes

  • Its more proof for non gun lovers. People are going to see that and in a argue with a friend or what ever they are going to say for example on tv i saw this hillbilly who shot him self

  • I just saw the Tex piece....it was pretty bad. Tex needs to get an education and grow up. Comments about Jews, shooting at religious icons etc is beyond the pale. (Interesting how that show decided to shoot at a picture of Christ, but not Mohamed) Allowing yourself to be the tool of a media group that is against what you reportedly support is simply pathetic. For me, this is why people seem to think grebner sold out. Certainly, at the very least ,he sold himself out. Sad really.

  • im with you cutlerylover i agree but i esspecially loved your chris crocker impersination. very nice. i wish we had better gun laws in canada. i collect knives and lighters but i really want to start collecting guns. everyone gives them such a negative stigma that its almost like owning oe is becomeing illegal too. sad times for us free healthcare canadians....

  • LMAO "HE'S A HUMAN" totaly woth waiting 15.23 minutes for

  • who or what is tex, and what happend i am lost?

  • @fpscanadianz tex is a youtube user/video maker. He was video-taping himself practicing drawing and shooting a handgun and subsequently shot himself...........then posted the video online.

    He then went on a comedians show, to display the footage again and let the guy make fun of him....

  • We shouldnt make it an" us vs. Them" deal. Education is the best forum in which to eliminate the stigma about guns. Along with showing reasonable gun owners to the masses so they see what the majority of gun owners look like. Good law abiding citizens who are very responsible . Thanks for the vid.

  • @cutlerylover- I agreed with alot of what you said but I have to disagree and open your eyes on one thing. People who hate guns aren't stuck in that role. I myself hated guns and gun owners for most of my life. It wasn't until the last 2 1/2 years of my life that I opened up due to a few youtubers and military buds of mine educated me on them. Now I love guns and plan to own them in the future when the funds support the habit..,

  • i hate tex, he seems like a douche bag

  • and honestly, i dont think i would go on tv...not like that cuz i have some integrity. to be portrayed as a moron on national tv in front of millions of people laughing at you for what you say and an accident you did, all for 8 mins of fame and a couple thousand (im guessing), and be the laughing stock of the gun community, its just not worth it. id rather be recognized for something i did good not bad.

  • i know what your trying to say with that analogy with the biker, but i think its invalid. the thing thats different with guns and gun owners is society doesnt see it as the gun owners fault, they see it as the guns fault, much like drugs. so one persons actions can effect all of us, obviously this wasnt that big of a deal, but the gun community has always been big on youtube of showing were responsible, and what he did was kinda wreckless with how he handled it but i think were fine for now

  • I just watched it, and I thought it was funny as hell. Folks shouldn't take that stuff seriously, it's not meant to be. Tex knew what he was getting into, more or less I'm sure, and it's pretty obvious that Tosh is being a troll - That's what he does, it's the basis for his whole show. So, I agree with most of your points. It's no big deal, it's cool for Tex, and if it ever comes up, now we have an opportunity to discuss these things and correct the broader range of misconceptions if need be.

  • This never showed up in my sub box... Youtube fail.

  • I just realized something... You've never had a desk pop!!

  • dude i totally agree, i have seen a lot of trash about him lately but he's just doing what he does!

  • Yea the motorcycle thing yea because it does give bikers this bad name and make us look like scary people when some of us wouldn't hurt a fly and some people make bikers look like these dumb people but just a thought

  • I think you all have good and bad points when it comes to guns and the owners responsabilty towards ownwership. On the other hand you should be happy with your 2nd. amendment and the NRA helping you all retain your firearms. I say this being a Canadian whereas the ones who set the rules here are out to get us. Before the law was passed where they scrapped the long gun registry the RCMP took a load of rifles and classified them as restricted weapons. They tread all over us. Damned goverment!

  • @shovster67 owning and using a gun to defend yourself is a god given right I just dont wish to be in jail thats why I care about the second ammendment...lol but my government doesnt have the right to tell me what to do or not do, I just play long to be nice...for now

  • I believe people think that someone else effects them regarding guns is because it's such a touchy subject. You know the anti-guns people are looking for anything to give them another reason to go "Oh guns are too dangerous for people and we need to ban them yad yah". But I completely agree with you on all points and Idk people do take some things just way too seriously. Good points Jeff.

  • I think it is a mistake to say non gun people will never like guns. That creates an "us and them" attitude and does not foster education about firearms.

  • LOL at the towel action !

  • YES as a gun owner I am offended almost daily by where I live. To be honest, not rascist, I live in the ghetto and have MANY occasions where people have drawn guns(probably unregistered) in front of my home or very close. Just a week ago i had to rush my family to the back of the house when our front porch took a few stray rounds. Not everybody with guns are smart and the only way to make guns truely safer is to be educated about them, guns cant be gotten rid of, they'll always be there...

  • @tnaglassworks Does Tex Grebner live next door to you?

  • @MrEvelDoer no just alot of ignorant people

  • I thought that Tosh episode with Tex was very funny. Hilarious in fact. And everyone who can't laugh at themselves sometimes oughta grow up.

  • Good words, people overreact too much.

  • acctualy that grouping of people becuase of ones actions happens allll the time.. and i think its justifed to be a little pissed about the whole thing... i mean toshs views on the subject probly changed some young minds for the worse...

  • butt buddy LMAO

  • The US is prejudiced against the "Not In" group: i.e. firearm owners. Also try being Muslim or Hispanic. The court of public opinion tries groups based on the actions of a tiny part of that group with bought-and-paid-for Media acting as prosecutors. Right or wrong people transfer your actions to your group. Firearm ownership is a right, duty and a responsibility. All firearm experts likely have mistakenly hurt someone but none would in jest let that to be ammunition against the whole community.

  • Fucking Jeff, damn near busted a gut laughing at that blanket part

  • in my opinion and this is just my opinion if you got mad from the show you're an idiot

  • does someone have the redeem link. please

  • @TheEddieo never mind found it.

  • Fun off topic fact, I have the same cabinet as you. 

  • karma

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  • oh and as always great video and thanks for your word

  • good response i loved tex was on tosh.o it was funny and i knew tex from awhile back and hes a good guy. Everyone else should shut up and stop crying this state in this day in age is turning into pansy people a nanny state. Im sick of it these kids keep kiling themselves over nothing im ugly im fat shut up live like eveyrone else

  • LMAO @ the blanket part!

  • Holy crap, 15:31 is like the best comedy you've ever done. Bravo.

  • wait people watch tosh.o? I mean who enjoys sitting there watching liberal trolls? tha'ts like watching that current channel which LIES out their ass to protect the liberal government...

  • Jeff you know Tex thumbs downs your videos and posts troll comments calling you a pussy and ass right? Hes usually the first ones to respond to your videos as well. i normally never comment just watch. Just wanted to let you know

  • lol those tags are awesome

  • Peed myself laughing at the end

  • Like the vid agree alot with you exept the ford & harley part - i understand what you are trying to say but a gun ultimatly has only one use .. To kill .... yes a car can kill but its not what its bought for.... a gun is bought for protection and the end result in protecting with it is death

  • I fucking spit my soda all over the screen at 15:24. Thanks Jeff

  • Sorry but who's Tex

  • what is the name of this guys youtube channel?

  • The Harley and Ford thing isn't really a fair comparison. There aren't people across the country constantly trying to get rid of Fords and Harleys. And no, it isn't the 'end of the world' for the gun community, but it does give all the anti-gunners one more piece of media on their side. Idk, just my two-cents.

  • Tex simply asked himself WWJD, and answered correctly, Jesus wouldve knocked the black off black jesus's ass with his gat

  • Don't know if it's been mentioned or not, but did anyone notice Tosh's asinine monologue about the Constitution being irrelevant and those who support 2nd Amendment are idiots? Just preceding that, you may have also noticed the not-so-subtle anti-TEA party comments and um, "sun tea". Tosh makes fun of everything but he was downright serious on this one. I'll never watch him again.

  • Cutlerylover, I agree with you that it doesn't have an effect but I think that the example wasn't the best...people aren't actively trying to stop the sale and use of Fords or Harley Davidson motorcycles. Still...it doesn't matter and I thought the Tosh.0 bit was actually funny,

  • Jeff I agree with you on almost all things you put up.... but this is different. Would I or othe people sell out too? Maybe. I'm not sure cause we're not in his shoes. But the fact remains that "tex" (who isn't even from texas, which is disrespectful to birthright texans) supported a comedy show with an agenda. I know lots of liberal people my age (college) who watch tosh.o and they wil think even more that tex represents us gun owners. Comedy is a political weapon.

  • it was pretty funny. i saw it but i dont watch tex on youtube

  • and taught me gun safety and control and is the one person in the entire planet who in million years I would have never thought could be responsible for accidentally discharging his firearm had it happen but he was lucky that he did not shoot himself. Now my thoughts on Tex...I thought him doing the TOSH episode was in good fun. I appreciate that Tex did post his video on negligent discharge I'm sure he knew that he would ridiculed for his video but his video brings the reality of what can hap

  • @cutlerylover, I see what you are saying. Sorry for The confusion. I Should have addressed my comment correctly it wasn't directed at your video. My comment was directed at mexistache making the car/handgun comparison. I don't post a lot of comments and I forgot to address the directed for him. I was just saying pretty much what you just said. Knowing the law does not make it safe. I watch Tex's video and he had unfortunate accident and it could happen to anyone. My father who has raised me and

  • What exactly happened in his past that people hate him for?

  • Very wise words !!!

    All the best and greetings !

  • leave tex alone <3

  • Good point. Personally, I'm not big into firearms. Not that they scare me, or that I believe accidents will happen. I just grew up without a strong influence from my family about guns. I'm just more into knives. And I've cut myself or dropped the point right into my hand when flipping. And if I do it in a video, I'll post it knowing that it show that my hobby can be dangerous. Anyways with that said, the towel part cracked me up man!

  • I think it must have taken real guts to make his video after the accident, enormous respect for the guy. Through doing that he may have saved some people from the same mistake.

  • I think the only other communitys that may react like this could be the knife community at a stretch, or any group of people that have an interest that scares the mass majority, like say people who own dangerous animals, one person acts an idiot and doesnt take proper precautions for the animal, it will affect other owners and the laws around said animals.

  • I agree with u Jeff

  • I don't dislike tex because he makes the gun community look bad but I do dislike him for the fact that he is still trying to teach people about guns and gun safety. In my opinion if you do something like that you lose the right to teach others how to operate a firearm. It's just like you said if he is a "moron with a gun" then isn't that dangerous to his followers for him to still be calling himself an "expert".

  • And guns are a tool.

  • My point is the person that I was commenting to should not compare a vehicle to owning a legal firearm.

  • I am CCW owner and I proudly express my 2A right. A license to operate a vehicle as well a license to CCW can be passed by anyone that proves that they have followed instructions for responsible handling of such tools. Human nature and lack of restraint becomes the vain of usage of said tools.

  • Nope chuck testa.

  • Unfortunately that did happen here in Australia in the 90s. One guy lost the plot in Tasmania with a semiautomatic rifle and solely because of that, it is incredibly hard and expensive to own one. Yes, our gun laws are incredibly stupid and wrong. Sure, make it hard to own a gun. But not almost impossible.

  • @thedonqwet Same thing in the UK, it's super fucking hard/expensive to get a firearms license in the UK

  • @cutlerylover...I'm not following your question. I don't think that you directed your question to me correctly.

  • @bellwitch007 "Not a valid point. Passing a driving license test does not prove that they will be responsible and not dangerous it just means that they have had instruction on how not to be dangerous and to be responsible." with this theory of yours tex is like anyone else driving around legally and being dangerous anyway, whats law have to do with how you handle yourself? And where in my video did I make a point that he can have a gun so that means he is safe?

  • O and guns don't kill people 99% of gun related accidents are the fault of a person

  • U should try bosleyhair for men

  • NO we need to be held to a higher stranded!

  • I can think of 2.. Unions, if a union worker fucks shit up like vandalizes a non-union contractor (Or like when that guy was shot in Ohio) hear it all the time, "Typical union thug, blah blah blah" it effects other union guys.. I Just like when a mass shooting happens an anti-gunner will say some shit like "He was just exercising his 2nd amendment rights!" When a lot of union ppl don't support that type of shit and either does the average gun owner.. another one would be police officers.

  • I agree, Tosh.0 only averages 2.5 million viewers with 18-24 year old males as the main audience. Surely every one of them already has an opinion on guns and the 2A and couldn't be influenced by a comedic buddy figure like Daniel Tosh, especially when he says, "if you support the 2A then let me exercise my first and say you're a fucking idiot". Give Tex a break, no one ever has or ever will do anything with a gun to actually influence any anti-gun support or legislation lol, you silly heads :3

  • Although Iagree with you that most people would jump at the idea of being Idon't believe that it's 99% Wranglestar declines 2 offers Nat Geo and Discovery simply because he did not feel that they were interested in portraying preppers in a fair light. They were looking for the tinfoil hat type and I admire that because he knew that it would cast an unfair shadow on preppers. At the end of the day you have to live with yourself. Maybe others consider him a sell out cause of the antigun message.

  • Last week a guy shot himself in the head and died locally.

    He was squirrel hunting with a broken trigger guard on his rifle.

    Accident. The news did not go on and on about his ignorance.

  • You completely miss the point and your arguments are flawed. It reinforces the gun control arguments side. $ and "fame" is not worth giving fuel to the anti-gunners. A real NRA member would never do this. It's sad, I really liked him until this stunt.

  • One issue with this would be people who are one the "fence" They could jump to wrong conclusions.

  • Another good point is that he showed a video of him shooting himself...it in no way shape or form showed that he was a "bad guy". he didn't go on a rampage and kill and maim dozens of innocents it was a training accident....hes not the guy that goes out, buys a gun and a box of ammo and the next day kills some one and then kills himself. Maybe a lil dumb but NOT crazy!!! totally agree with Cutlerylover

  • tosh0 is whird

  • As a ford flare side owner i do not appreciate this video and i want it pulled from the internet immediately.Just kidding LOL.

  • I also like Tosh.0, yes his views are not always mine but he is entertaining and mildy offensive which i like.

  • As a pro gun advocate and gun owner i think what tex did was fine.He did no harm with what was acted out.You can not change someone's mind who is against guns.As for canterbury i follow him on youtube and have been before Dual Survivor and i'm happy for him.

  • There is so much logic in this video, we need more people like Jeff in this world.

  • XD DONT HURT BRITNEY REFRENCE!! :D

  • I've defended Tex on several forums...

    It was a simple mistake. He learned from it and it took brass balls for him to share that video with us in my opinion.

    Fuck Daniel Tosh.

  • Chris Crocker is his name. LOL!!!!!!!!

  • I just saw it. I thought it was funny as hell.

  • i need the link i didn't see it :_(

  • make the 90 min video!

  • Agree !!

  • Just skip to 15:31 that's all that needs said.

  • @phantomuser1 thank you

  • @phantomuser1 AHAHAHAHAHA that is so funny

  • I agree that one moron can't change anyone who has a strong opinion. But they use things such as the tucson shooting as a sob story to persuade on the fence people. It may not work too well, but it sure is annoying

  • saw it on YT have no prob with tex on tosh at all looked fun at least he had some humor about the screwup he made

  • the biker part, can be true. my father was told to leave a garage sale because he was on a Harley with a vest... the guy running the sale, told him he didn't want a "biker gang guy" around his house...

  • I agree 100%. Who the hell cares what Tex does? It's his life and he will make his choices. Whoopdy friggin doo!

    The Chris Crocker parody literally made me laugh out loud. Good one.

  • Tex kinda taught us all a lesson in that when you mess with guns in any fashion there IS always the possibility that you'll pop yourself in the fuggin leg. I myself joke about it, I'm no fan of his but just the same, realistically, I gotta say I will always observe trigger control and not fuck around ever because of that video. Even by myself in the woods, hell...especially.

  • Great vid Jeff, I agree with your opinions

  • I wouldn't make fun of someone that gets hurt because you never know what could happen to you.

    Always keep a round out of the chamber and keep it on safety when carrying. it only takes a couple seconds to get get the safety off and put a round in the chamber

  • @andrewvanrhoberts you need to practice that day in and day out because when it comes to a quick and decisive action needed to save your life that safety could get in your way. If I am on the range I will keep the safety on, but when I am carrying my pistol for self-defense purposes their will be no safety. I can guarantee you that you won't even think about clicking that safety off when your life is on the line.

  • @EveryDayCarry14 If you practice enough it will become second nature and you would do it without even thinking about it

  • Nice video good points....but I think you still suck!

  • @jmmurdy i think your gay

  • @gotnobrain22 because I think he sucks.

  • @jmmurdy pretty much

  • I dont think its right to call people who dont like guns thick headed... i like them just fine but the facts remain that guns are dangerous and accidents do happen.

    There are pleanty of people who dont like other things that i do i dont think there thick headed people have different opinions.

  • Whats the saying ? there is two types of people those who have had Negligent discharges and the ones it hasn't happened to yet?

    When dealing with dangerous stuff things will happen, otherwise props to Tex for manning up and posting the video, so others can learn from his experience!

  • dave wasnt selling out one way to think about it is this how are more people going to see you on youtube or discovery? and for all we know somebody learned something on that show that may have saved their life so i dont think he was a sell out

  • with pot. if someone does something stupid when he or she is high, its weakening the chance for those who want pot to be legalized. good video, love hearing your opinion

  • I agree with 99% of what you have said in this video except that the Tosh.o piece with Tex could have had negative affect on the gun community. For example, didn't the movie West Side Story play a role in the ban of the Switch Blade in many cities. Anyway, I too would jump at the chance to be on TV :)

  • Nicely done.

  • I saw it, it was awesome and right away i said to myself "I can't wait till Jeff makes a vid on this"

  • Upon Mettallica being accused of being a sellout,James Hetfield responded, "yep! we sell out every night!" lol badass answer!

  • Lol, leave Tex alone!

  • I couldn't agree more! jeff is the man. Guns dont kill people, people and/or their stupidity kill people. and as far as getting offended to the show its tosh.0... we all should know by now that the show is extremely offensive. JUST DONT WATCH IT

  • It's "Tosh.0" not "Tosh.O". Sorry, I'm not trying to troll or anything maybe someone else has already said it, maybe not.

  • Show us your penis

  • College students are also like that with drinking...I think it's a more common attitude than you might think. Still, I think you make a great point about the stereotyping. It probably won't make any difference. And anyway, it's not like he hurt anyone...he was training and he hurt himself, when no one else wasf around.

  • jealousy makes people hate. 

  • yes it does influence people and ur naive if u think it doesnt.

  • hell yea we all do make mistakes no one is perfict

  • People who don't like guns, may very well change their opinion based upon media influence.

    However, the concern there, is not those who are already anti-gun, but those who are on the fence.

    The public image that we contribute too, DOES, in fact, sway public opinion for or against us.

  • Good video. Gun haters will be gun haters whether they saw the ToshO clip, or videos on youtube or not. Obviously, Tex Grebner is pro firearms, and he's also human and makes mistakes like we all do. I am not worried about this impacting the Second Amendment. Our anti-gun government officials are who we should be concerned about!

  • lol jeff ur a moron. the point of people calling him a sellout isnt him going on the show its that the show was anti gun. and he went on it.

  • I disagree with you Jeff I live in New York City and If someone dose something stupid with a GUN we all pay for it

  • it does take balls to post videos like that

  • Tosh.o is a faggot. He gives a fuck what he thinks. They will never ban guns. It almost impossible.

  • Jeff Smith,

    I agree 100% with your statements about "Tex". There are a 1000's of high production channels here on youtube and else where pumping out high quality BULLSHIT that has everyone drinking the Kool-Aid are now crying sour grapes at Derek because their channel never will get a call from hollywood.

  • Eh, let them bash whatever they want. It only shows how intelligent they are, or in most cases, are not.

  • watch?v=CPJD5J6CGU0

  • Playing skyrim, no time to go on youtube.

  • I think tex did a good job and was funny but tosh with all that anti gun bullshit pissed me off.

  • I think its just his style (tex) He's like a real life Shrek. But not funny

  • Jeff, excellent video.

  • I disagree with you on one thing, about how anti-gun people will never like guns. Just take them to the range with you, and a good bunch of them will convert ;)

  • @Paulmarti I used to be anti-gun when I was younger, because I grew up in Canada and that's what we were taught to think. I couldn't possibly be more pro-gun now, though. :)

  • i have to admit im ten and i still watch his vids and i dont watch most of his vids but im into knifes i watch all of his funny vids but not the knifes and i like to skateboard overall cutlerylover is sick

  • Im sorry but when it come to gun related occurrences even the little things effect the gun community. The right person get the opportunity to use this footage they will. I agree that it was done in comedy but that doesn't matter. I live in the state of New York which has some of the strictest gun laws which all came about because of something that happened on the other side of the country. It may not effect your general area but believe me it effect more than you think. I'm going to state it no

  • Just to give you some examples of decrees, when drivers do enough stupid irresponsible stuff, there is a law that often follows. More rules. No cell phones, no texting. Soon no drinking or eating. I remember a while back a single incident happened with an exotic pet and laws were changed. Columbine changed all kinds of things over an isolated incident. Perception can cause change (more restriction) in this country. Whether the threat is real, perceived or created by the media.

  • I agree with you. It didn't make a difference at all. They wanted an idiot with a gun. If it wasn't Tex, they would have found someone else. The problem is that the media wants to portray terrible things. About guns or anything else. They look to alarm everyone and that leads to legislation many times. Whenever I hear that someone committed a crime with a gun I do think, "Oh, great..." After enough things happens the government tries to step in with a decree.

  • Hehe. Gangbangers....))

  • everybody is just jealous! Its was all fun and games...Yes it didn't help, But it was tex's fault not the guns so why is it such a big deal? LMAO I can't belive people are so sensitive.. oh well.

  • No comment on Tex, but there are a lot of people that get their news/info from The Daily Show, talk shows(The View, Letterman, etc.), and comedy shows like SNL. Tosh's anti-2nd Amendment rant does hurt gun owners. People hear that, and think it's the truth. There are a lot of idiots in the US. Obama's election is proof.

  • I heard about this Tex shooting himself, I watched the video, aside from that I'd never seen him before, so after watching THIS video, I went and looked it up on Tosh.O. I always knew Daniel Tosh was a raging fuckstain, But this Tex "Fuckin" Grebner is an assclown.  The description says it all

  • As far as the actions of one (or few) affecting many, look at religion. Extremists of any religion do have an effect on how society views that religion. That shouldn't be the case, but it is. Your analogy to Ford or Harley owners is flawed, because there are other trucks and bikes out there. A moron with a gun DOES affect the way some anti-gun people view gun owners, it validates their belief. "One bad apple can ruin the whole bunch."

  • I can honesty say I wouldn't go on Tosh.0 to bash the 2A. I can see Tex is your friend and you got his back though. Tex is only one man, but millions of people watching that one man be a idiot with a gun... can have a very negative effect on the 2A.