American Empire VS Roman Empire : monetary history repeats itself

[antivoterfraud]

Awesome!

[edisonoside]

TREA$ON! $tarving u$ for harve$t

[edisonoside]

I don't know if I can get past the strong LonG Island accent..

[LordLindsey12]

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[NicoleNa666]

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[LordLindsey12]

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[NicoleNa666]

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[LordLindsey12]

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[NicoleNa666]

@LordLindsey12 /sigh. You people give me no hope in humanity. I should stop wasting my intelligence on someone so devoid of intellect, so I hope you get raped by a jew for the sake of irony.

[eightbowl]

Look at Rome who had a very select few with all the wealth. They also managed the economy very bad. Rome expanded often times allowing conquered to fight for them(usa Afghanistan/Pakistan/irak). USA will soon become a 3rd world country ruled by those with money. Expect this within 1-2 years.

[CaniPaul1]

History repeats!

[dfnurhidayat]

AMERICAN IS NOT WORLD POLICE, BUT WORLD TERRORIST!!!!

[audiopro316]

@dfnurhidayat Wrong. America is a distraction and the "fall guy" from the truth. If elite can brainwash you into thinking "I hate America", they win. The foreign policy is not an american majority, and decision can be made because no one can agree. So if we cant agree, we both lose.

[JustinCruze69]

@dfnurhidayat I was born in america, but wish I wasn't. Most of us do not agree with this system, but we are being forced to play the game. Hopefully soon we will all see change!!!

[PossiblyAsian]

America is not an empire... they are world police....

[speed6ify]

@PossiblyAsian america is freedom from the roman empire , but it only works with balance .Bittersweet symphony!!!!

[senses2000]

From whom did the Romans learn about debasement of money and the issuance of currency?

[1776bricks]

@senses2000 Did you ever find out the answer to that?

[senses2000]

@1776bricks it seems that the Money Changers were in Asia Minor, but I can't find any hard evidence about how it was transferred to Rome and exactly who in Asia Minor. In the bible it seems it were the Pharisees, but I can't find enough evidence to understand completely. It seems it went from Babylon to the Hebrews to Egypt and then to the people in Asia Minor and then to Rome. It is interesting that the rulers used knowledge of the stars to deceive the people into believing their deceptions.

[1776bricks]

@senses2000 I think the video said that the inflation occurred when the soldiers figured out that the money was being overprinted. I study the bible a lot, too and I think the answers are in there, but you have to understand the symbolism and allegories. The masons in babylon or whoever it was probably did come up with it, since the reverse of the seal of the USA has the tower of babel on it. I'm sure it all happened before somewhere else in another world.....

[Riddlerx333x]

The speaker sounds like Dennis Kucinich

[ukusapillage]

a perfect economy would be a economy ruled by precious metals, gold silver palladium copper, and cibvilization could not grew more then certain ammount of metals in existence, not even in populance numbers, and size in land, the minute the economy grows more then real metals exist it starts to fall into debt, the earth metals witch everyone reognises as of value are the restrain for us humans to grow, all attempts for credit expansion with paper end in chaos and bankrupcy, usuarys know this

[0salot]

the us economy is fucked....there is no value behind the dollar paper.... china has the gold, they have real value

[AMNirvanaFan]

comparing ROME to America yea right ..... they may have some similarities but AMERICA WILL NEVER BE LIKE ROME, AND IF AMERICANS belive in that why dont they americanize other culture, just like the ROMANS did in the ancient times. they have there JFK, while ROME had it's Caesar's.

[jonah232]

@AMNirvanaFan There isnt a single country on Earth that hasn't been affected by American culture in some way.

[RebelManCam]

@AMNirvanaFan

Mcdonalds influenced China or Japan to eat beef...which was rare before Mcdonalds moved there. (sorry, I forgot which country)

Russia is trying to copy american politics because of the Cold War....capitalist plague of evil :)

America is very similar to Rome, and YES america does have treason( I know you didn't ask that)

I don't feel like typing anymore so I am just going to leave it up to you to research what you want.

[Jononutoob]

Rome never fell, it just changed names. That is why America and Rome have so many similarities. The American rulers want to collapse into a global government instead of the normal new nation.

[lordnuck33]

The hardcore reality of todays war against inflation involves walking up to the guy at the bottom and saying he will have to take less and less of the pie while at the same time giving more and more to the guy at the top.

[Jonyrotn3]

This video is NOT AVAILABLE IN MY COUNTRY!?!?

Since when is information or a person's opinion not available in America?

Please don't tell me the government and Goggle/Youtube are beginning a "book burning" campaign?

Oh sweet Jesus, it is finally upon us..

[J5MARLON]

Feudalism killed Rome and defending the territories and borders with mercinaries. Screwing over the Goths.

[BillKiernan]

we'll never learn from these mistakes of the past because humans are greedy bastards. if i were born into an upper class family of "old money" i would be resting on my laurels enjoying it right now, as would most everyone else. this type of thing will happen again and again, power will switch hands, maybe china will be next, but it will happen again, and collapse again, and happen again until we make ourselves extinct, or some natural event makes us extinct.

[RoySC1]

If the people want to stop the exploitation of their wealth by elected government officials, they must abolish the constitutional power of Congress to "borrow money on the credit of the United States". Without this power, politicians and bankers, will not be able to expropriate wealth from the people by inflation.

[radiestesia]

as for the Roman Empire, even the American empire will end

[radiestesia]

@radiestesia the history teaches us...

[ginko27]

American English is "proper English". It was designed to clean-up the accents of English and make a unified standard that was accent free. Speaking properly was a BIG deal in the English colonies so regardless what other subjects were tought, English was almost always the most important. Oddly enough American English was first spoken in England by groups of rich ppl, and introduced to America via rich visitors tought to ordinary school childern. So, a rich British dilect became the standard here

[toweronepower]

@ginko27 What are you talking rubbish for?

[kroovyandcal]

@ginko27 taught

[FurryPhysics]

theres a difference between roman empire and american empire.... ROMAN EMPIRE was cooler than american empire

[Notasheep187]

@FurryPhysics the roman empire never died it just became the Catholic Church....

[jubeigun]

I'm so happy that there are people out there who realize this.

[tigerjonn]

@Notasheep187 wow thats a good theory, but I believe the Roman Empire (atleast the bulk of the wealth of the roman empire) turned into the powerful British Empire. AND as the British Empire was starting to fail, the wealth of the british empire, came to the new world, and built the American Empire. BUT the wealth never really changed hands. The wealthy people who were in control of the roman and british empire, are still the wealthy families, in control of the american empire.

[numerocro]

@tigerjonn can you explain me what roman empire got with british empire ? roman empire turned into british empire...dont understand that....

[tigerjonn]

@numerocro Well if you look at the history of Roman Britian, or Britannia, or basically Rome occupied Britian, You will see how the Roman Empire developed agriculture, industry, architechture, and government. BUT most importantly, the Roman banking system. And when the Romans left, the banking system allowed(on credit) kings and queens to borrow tremendous amounts of money (ROMAN MONEY) to fund armies, navies, and wars to take over the world. and even though rome failed, roman bankers did not.

[numerocro]

@tigerjonn o yea :) knowed that... i thinked that you speak about roman empire with british empire, comparing... ( soo little strange, not same century :) ) but yea, true...

[JongaLife]

@numerocro oh my friend you gotta hit the books and the Roman history or Western history... basically, Rome took over Europe, including Britain and when the Roman empire collapsed, people in Britain basically were descendants of the Roman Empire, specially their system of government, theater, architecture, statues, etc. And they had the same Imperialistic mentality the Romans did. Those are facts... that's if the books I've read are true.

[numerocro]

@JongaLife wtf you talking about ? you trying to learn me some history ? lol you are funny. dont comment on my comment if you didnt read all my comments with other guy. is little stupid :) i know history very good ( from my country started in 7th century, and same with world history )....

[numerocro]

@JongaLife but thx :) only i dont know history of usa ( maybe i know 100 years of american history ) but that is becuase america dont have " old history " . lol and i know that rome did have very large empire, because they ruled in my country to, soo your comment is funny :P ) my english is bad ( realy dont love him, dont need him, because i know 6 other languages ) but still.... thx for comment :)

[JongaLife]

@numerocro you have to keep in mind that the history of America is the history of Western Civilization... we are an extension of Europe. I'm not sure if you haven't notice but people in America speak English and Spanish mostly... both European languages. The history of native Americans is a different story since we, European descendants, destroyed most of their culture. Also, here in America we are not surrounded by that many countries so there's no need to learn 6 languages. Good day.

[JongaLife]

@JongaLife I was trying to help you out but it seems you are a wise man... good for you. BTW, your English still needs some improvement, I got confused reading your post. Keep the good work my man!

[Zukouh]

@FurryPhysics

Other than their political system and military, the Roman Empire copied virtually everything from the Greeks lol. The only Roman to really disrespect the Greeks was Sulla who burned the city of Athens, but the funny thing is, he took all the Greek stuff with him.

[Apoth3cary]

@sandrodream1 Do they? Ahem, Austria and Germany. And many of these so called different languages, like Italian, French, Spanish are really all based off Latin...therefore, and again, it doesnt matter what it means for you, because you do not know what colony means it seems.

[Apoth3cary]

@sandrodream1 Thats not part of the definition of Empire, we are a former colony, anyway, we have been independent so long we are not in anyway a colony

[MopDMTBARTL]

Americans need to wake up the tyranny that is controlling them. Most do not care and let everything happen so Im going to tell you this. You better not let them take away your guns (abolish the 2nd Amendment) because that is what gives you FREEDOM. That amendment is meant to protect you from gov’t (tyranny). w/o that & the 1st amendment, how can you ever celebrate 4th of July – FREEDOM? Ur gov't is corrupt due to the Federal Reserve, abolish it.

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[kinora98]

@sandrodream1 The traditionnal definition of an Empire does not exist anymore per say, for the economic, political and social costs would be too great to bear. This does not mean that Empires have disappeared: they evolved into a more efficient, vicious and perfected machine, without the need to impose romantic dogmas upon populations, such as culture and language for instance, for these aspects bring no return on investment. It's ALL about power, domination and money, nothing else.

[TheAntiFascist2010]

@kinora98 very well said, you are right on. the roman empire was destroyed but it's ideology remained and needs to be addressed so we can return to freedom and turn from slavery. The idea that one needed to "BUY" into freedom is where the problem originated I think.

[kinora98]

@TheAntiFascist2010 I think you are also absolutely right! The principles of monetary mechanics are not meant to be fair, nor to make this world better. They are the foot print of the matrix of control we live in: a broad day light prison, with invisible walls that keep us lock tight, not by force, but by choice.... People's greed, strive for power, Ego, bling, materialistic and empty happiness, deprived of culture and education etc... are all walls of that inconscious prison!!

Cheers! :o)

[kinora98]

@sandrodream1 Again, I understand your point, but you're just in too deep into your dogmas & definition. Try to think outside the box for a moment... America has brought the definition of an empire to another level, where as you mentionned it, the social aspects are not to be considered. Thats called "business process improvement", and "cost efficiency"...

However, I disagree when you say they are not bringing their American ways with them... Think Halliburton for instance...

[kinora98]

@sandrodream1

You see, for me, its cabbage green or green cabbage... Call it a Locusta, an Empire, Thieves, Criminal, the modus operandi is the same. Why get entangled in details, when the end result is the same? It just simply quacks and walks like a duck...

[10Faenor]

ALL of you who listen to this are the problem. YOU are complete idiots & assholes.

YOU will never learn; just follow the programming given to you.

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Can you stop voting for the same dysfunctional dictator families, senators, and house members again and again? NO.

Can you stop voting for either part of that same, obviously corrupt, 2-party system? No.

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So then, I hope you & your entire family is tortured during your acceptance of enslavement by your permanently installed parasites.

[kinora98]

@10Faenor Thanks for your passion! I have to say that I stopped voting a while back... If everyone were to do this, a natural intellectual and ideological revolution would emerge from the masses instantaniously. Not by force. By peaceful disobedience. For that, people need to be awakened, educated, and videos such as these can trigger that reflexion process.

[kinora98]

@sandrodream1

See it differently... Why invade and occupy another country? The social cost is too great. All the US want, is to rob the world of it's ressources, and leave other population to starve... That is far more effective! They lost VietNam, the same way they lost the others after: the goal is not victory, but profit from the war industry...! Remember the word: covert and hypocritical ways.... (see videos on economic hitman...)

[kinora98]

@sandrodream1

I understand your point and respect it, though you are only looking at the dogmatic, traditionnal definition of an empire. See the US as being the first exception to your language rule ;o). The US empire has been doing every thing other empires have before; they just do it by deception and covert means. They are not motivated so much by eugenics and persistence of their history, as much as the corporate quest for profits and total world domination.

Cheers! :o)

[kinora98]

@sandrodream1

Are these really differences, or only cosmetic differences...? The core aspects, economy, military, to name only these, are exactly the same in any collapsing empire through history.

[gibbo675]

Ubi solitudinem facere, bonum appelant.

[kinora98]

The only diffrence between ancient Rome, Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and todays US, is the fact that they leaned to do it better, without having a one man show to blame it on... The rulers of US are not all elected officials: big corporations have infiltrated the government through the process of revolving doors, and are using it for their own agendas. Ultimately, the result is the total merger of state and corporate powers, which is known as Fascism, NOT Socialism.

[devilzmantis]

@kinora98 AND what/who is "Corporate Powers"? Corporate is just an entity... the real rulers hide themselves in these entities so they can't be caught bribing or scamming. Corporations is not the evil, it's evil humans that hide in a few corporations in the shadows.

[kinora98]

@devilzmantis Yep, you're absolutely right! A corporation is merely a shell for psychopath minds to bring forward their criminal agenda in a legal way...

Sorry if I wasn't clear, 500 characters doesn't allow an "in depth" look at the topic

[devilzmantis]

@kinora98 yah but these same "groups" have existed since the Egyptians or before... they jump around from civilizations to civilizations. Their knowledge or ways or some may say exploits have been passed down from generations... and now they end up controlling the world's monetary and financial systems. But Kinora, the big debate is, where will all of this lead us? Down to a slavery state or down to a prosperious one?

[kinora98]

@devilzmantis Precisely. Thats the ultimate question. If the human race was as advanced as its remarkable intelligence suggests it might be, maybe a central benevolent power could ensure greatness to all, for it would also mean greatness of self. For now, and to my opinion, man is still very primitive in its relation to others, to its environment, by always seeking domination, control and power over another, and over Mother Nature.

[kinora98]

@kinora98 Man to me is like a 3 year old child playing with a loaded Magnum .357... Until we can wise up and expand our conscience, I dont believe in a prosperous future for mankind. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, once said an English Baron. In fact, the very last question one may ask to be convinced about the urgency to change our current paradigm is: how long can we sustain life like we do, carelessly, consuming everything in our path, just to dump in waste after?

[cloudchaser07]

i love old coins i found 4 coins from justinian's the 2nd era with ANNO NOKIA one one side and an M on the other side

[HistorysMysterys]

@zombiekarlos1 All governments are like this, America has done more for there own people than almost any other country. America is nothing like Rome... Rome is a testament to fascism and has more in common with England and Germany than America.

[jimbobubbadj]

@HistorysMysterys I beg to differ. It was illegal from 1933-1974 for Americans to own gold. There was prohibition from 1920-1932. Slavery before 1865 and de facto slavery up until the 60's. Gay marriage is only allowed in several states with no Federal benefits. The state can seize property for private developments and for suspicion of drugs, etc. America is a fascist state right now! Look at the influence of corporations, which love regulation to hurt the small business owner.

[kinora98]

@jimbobubbadj I agree TOTALLY with you...! America nowadays is slowly, viciously and subtlely drifting into pure fascism. The only difference is that rulers have learned from the mistakes of the past, especially Nazi Germany. Why proclaim outlarge our state as fascist and risk it's survival, when all that is required is to put on a veil of fake democracy, false freedom, and phony terror attacks, so that people willingly surrender their rights to the state...

[whatzupa]

Corrupt high taxing governments and officials ? More tax than most communist countries.  Plans for govts to get hold of your retirement savings. We are seeing this now.

[Lee7676]

i think the romans who got captured by germanic tribes and the huns maybe feel better because they dont have to pay taxes anymore to very oppressive government like roman empire.but fall of the western roman empire was a disaster to the roman world.rome provided everything to them what is called'civilization.cities,pol­ice,security,

free trade,unification under single ruler... this is totally gone when rome fell under barbarians. very sad indeed...

[ANTIDALLARD]

In an anarchic society, the strong start to manipulate the weak, and within a generation a privilaged class is formed, that controls the masses, who then start to become aware of their enslavement by the decrepit ruling class, and unite and take over the state. And it all starts over again

[eagletalons2007]

10,000 BC (movie)

[checkeverton]

American Empire ?

[SmokePropaganda]

Rome like our own country and, the British Empire, was done in by Political Greed and Powermongering. Over extension of the Military in an attempted worldwide police state spelt the end of their empires in either case.

"Those who do not learn from History are doomed to repeat it"

end the fed

[evadidio]

@SmokePropagandaI'm Italian and I can assure you that the problems of the Empire were more complex.1)barbarians2)caresty3­)20 years peast carried by the legions of Marcvs Avrelivs in Roma4)revolts in the Army for electing different Emperors5)the new Christian sensibility towards slavery and the disenfranchment of slaves6)ONLY at the End the depletion of some important silver mines like Hiberia and Sardinia mines.The inflation wasn't huger than 3% in our Empire.A dream for modern man.

[westchesterny]

@SmokePropaganda The constitution tried to ensure there would never be a standing military, b/c the people who wrote it, and lived under it, DID IN FACT REMEMBER b/c they had to be slaves to the Romans and that empire in Europe. They were protestants with family that survived as "heretics" during the ages of the empire, but the program of degradation of them, shutting out their voice, has created the 'in' to creating military, etc.

[divustitus]

The title of this vid is "apt"...If the Fed does not execute it's policies to the "T",the little people will suffer.But the continuing devaluation of the dollar is a necessary evil economically.

[HistorysMysterys]

America's not perfect at all.

But anybody even Nazi's were better than those pedeophile, twisted, incest filled, sexual deviant, HOMOSEXUAL, and all around smug assfucks known as Romans.

Octavian was the greatest Roman who ever lived and he created mass murder, does that tell you morons anything about your beloved ancient society??? I'd rather live in Persia.... At least they weren't fascist, racist, white morons....

[LegioXIIFulminata]

And if you'd know better,western world wouldn't be the same without the romans.

Philosophy,law,roads were given by the romans and have improved science a lot.

You wouldn't be here without them."Pedophiles, racists and homosexuals".That's bullshit.And before you deny my claim please give me something to support your claim.And don't give account on what one roman did.

[LegioXIIFulminata]

edit:You should know that all of civilization was based on war.

[HistorysMysterys]

And for all you people who disagree with me and say Rome was so cool.

You people are easily fed morons, people who think only what they want to think about past events and not what really happened. Rome had a terrible society for the average man, woman, slave, child, or any other poor pawn in there empire. The ones who lived peacefully and comfortably were the rulers and the rich. It was a terribly cruel empire full of oppression. Most powerful Americans got there through hard work and industry

[bastardchildofmary]

the south had a right to break away under the constitution, it was about taxes and other things.they were tricked at fort sumter. lincoln had gunships there after promising not to.check out murray rothbards lecture ''two just wars''Lincoln did many unconstitutional things and was not as great as many people think or are taught. He was a Railroad lawyer, that should explain a lot of it right there.

[HistorysMysterys]

It is just my opinion but I think America was founded in a much more just and moralistic manner than Rome or any other country. We've kept the peace in our own country for about 100 plus years, that's a pretty good track record. As for Iran they haven't attacked anyone but there laws, religion, and people act without morals towards women and other groups. Sometimes a good military strengthens its own country, Rome has some things in common with America no doubt, but it is not like America.

[emiliano2009]

i dont know why americans are bitching You guys are so lucky and blesed, I only wish there was a mexican empire.

[amdura]

the empire is not for the average american, but for the elite. mexico also has this system. america is becoming more like mexico because of the increasing disparity between rich and poor..

[Strabo1993]

You mentioned that Roman kings raped people. Yes, Tarquin the Proud raped Lucretia, daughter of a nobleman. The Romans were so outraged by this that they threw off the Kings. For the next five hundred years, the word "Rex" or king was a grave insult.

The Romans did have Civil wars though. In the Republican Era, they had 12, all within a 50 year period. Historians call this the Roman Revolution.

In the Imperial Era, they had 9 - 3 when the empire was at its height, 6 in its decline.

[Strabo1993]

Histories, when are you talking about? Republican Rome or Imperial Rome? If you are talking about Imperial Rome, then there were definitely bad, insane sick emperors. But these were the Emperors - not the every day people. The Rome depicted in the (FICTIONAL) Quo Vadis was Imperial Rome.

If you are talking about Republican Rome, then you are simply wrong. As I said, compared to the Republican Romans, we are the sick ones.

[jimbobubbadj]

@Strabo1993 Great point at least you did your research unlike the gay hater on this channel.

[HistorysMysterys]

That's why we had our only Civil War because we were so disgusted by slavery, Romans on the other hand never even cared about slaves.

[SomeFatGuyoo7]

your lookin at it from 2009

fact is everone had slaves back them

[HistorysMysterys]

Right including the Egyptian's, Greeks, and the middle east. But look at our world 300-400 years ago the English, Spanish , Americans and many other country's also had slavery. American's (mainly the north) were strongly oppossed to slavery because it was against the constitution. The only point I'm trying to make is this, read both Roman and American history. Completely different cultures, idea's and advancement. While Rome had no rights for females the women in America were getting rights.

[HistorysMysterys]

Sure it took hundreds of years but women in America eventually earned there equality as well as the blacks. But that's whats different about America to Rome, America also had light hearted physical entertainment that involved non violent competition such as baseball and football (well football is a little violent but not like the caulosium) the thing is America has much more in common with ancient Persia then it does with Rome.

[HistorysMysterys]

I might also add that during Persian time's they had paid slave labor, womens rights, peacefull takeovers, moralistic law's and free speech and freedom of religion. Seem familar? The thing is the Greeks were known baby killers and eventually Greece influenced Rome in the Grecko=Roman times. Greece and Rome brought an end to Persia's righteous rule and installed there own tyranical form of government known as fascism. I don't like Rome because I've studied there many atrocites.

[amdura]

plato said that war is the easiest way to wealth. some nations are more based on a war economy. that is the similarity between america and rome. Iran survived the greeks, romans and the holy roman empire because it has a more balanced economic approach. That's why Iran hasn't had to attack another country in over 400 years and still be ok, while america needs to find new targets.

[RRESC]

Is it studied their?

Just asking

[HistorysMysterys]

What do you mean?

Either way someone has to be an idiot to think that Rome and America are the same, there completely different.

Rome= baby killers, sodamists, and murdering politicians

USA= at least our politicians don't murder... to our knowledge.

[HistorysMysterys]

I might add that the Roman's brought about fascism something responcible for 10's of million's of death's in the 20th century. As you probably know fascism was a Roman creation and Benito Mussolini pioneered its practice. If it wasn't for Rome and fascism WW2 may of never happened. Now tell me that the Roman's were righteous because they were not, if you consider Nero and Caligula to be righteous then you are just as insane as them, Ceasar and Octavian also took part in many cullings and wars.

[LegioXIIFulminata]

Fascism is about rome but was not made by it.Fascism was made by benito mussolini.Romans were not fascists.You are clearly lacking in your knowledge of ancient rome.Rome=Baby killers.I've never heard a more stupid statement.

[HistorysMysterys]

Dude do you ignore history? The greeks were well known baby killers, and so were Romans. Caligula's 4 year old daughter was beaten to death.... Is that not baby killing? You must not know shit what you talk about because I know lots about Rome. I guess you forget that Mussolini got the Fascist symbol from ancient Rome. You can look at any history book the Roman's were fascists if you don't think so then you know nothing about history. THEY CREATED IT!!! Them and the greeks.

[HistorysMysterys]

And honestly I've never heard a more stupid comment then denying that they ever killed baby's.

Thats beyond stupid and false.....

[Hashishin13]

Read the quotes on the lincoln memorial. the war was about the union (an unconstitutional war) not about slavery.

[HistorysMysterys]

The Union was right for what they did, the Confederates broke away from our very own Country. The Confederates were about as unamerican as Nazi's. The Union had unlimted resources and many millions more men than the south. Lincoln didn't even declare war until those bastards attacked Fort Sumter.

[Tangochic87]

@Hashishin13 The Civil War was ALL about slavery. All of the events leading up to it were based around slavery. Bleeding Kansas, Annexation of Texas, pro and anti slavery debates etc. It hasn't been until the last half century (post civil rights) that historians would acknowledge that slavery was the premise for the war. Until then, no one wanted to dive deeply into that dark past of America. Do the research and you'll see that the Civil War was ALL about slavery. (I have a history degree btw)

[Hashishin13]

@Tangochic87 A quick search of Lincoln quotes will prove that he provoked the war based on his desire to crush state's rights to secede. Whether or not the south seceded becuse of slavery, Lincoln went to war to centralize the US in an entirely unconstitutional way. This is born out by at least one of the earlier states having secession spelt out in their constitution, let alone the fact that the entire country was created through secession.

[Hashishin13]

@Tangochic87 Unlike some pro-secessionists I actually believe that Lincoln's war might have been legitimate if he had let the south secede, and respected the institution of secesion, but then declared war based on slavery. Unfortunately he didn't do this. The emancipation proclamation wasn't put forth until well into the war when he realized he was going to have a tough time of it and wanted to foment slave rebellion in the confederacy.

(btw I don't care if you paid to be taught incorrectly)

[phroto13]

@Tangochic87 The civil war was not about slavery in the slightest. Lincoln was an ardent racist as well. in the south once a black man became freed he was to able to gain citizenship and thus even own slaves and vote himself. however in lincolns home state of illinois it was illegal for free blacks to gain citizenship, or attend public school, althought they were obliged to pay taxes. lincoln fought to keep that because he argued that civil society was above the intellectual capability of blacks

[phroto13]

@Tangochic87 In addition the reason that he was so opposed to the kansas and nebraska act over the missouri comprimise was because it opened up slavery, thus opening the possibility that there would be blacks in the western states. he was such a white supremicist that he negotiated exporting all blacks from the US to Liberia (thus the name, free land) or sending them to dutch guyana in south america. The war was about tariffs pure and simple. Karl Marx was even able to distinguish this.

[HistorysMysterys]

Oh cmon our slaves were well fed and it was not profitable to mistreat them, I'm sure Rome treated its own slaves well to being property.

But slavery is ultimately wrong because out of the percentage of people who would treat slaves humanly there's that small percent who are completely sadistic. Slavery is wrong but America handled it beautifully read American history more often many white's were strongly apposed to slavery including John Brown, Fredrick Douglas, Abraham Lincoln and many others.

[jimbobubbadj]

@HistorysMysterys See the series "Roots". It was based on a true story.

[HistorysMysterys]

@jimbobubbadj Yea and who started the whole slavery rings? The English and the Spanish. America fought both these countries.

[HistorysMysterys]

Assassinations to...

[HistorysMysterys]

America is nothing like Rome.

Rome was built on sadists and child molesters as well as brutality. America was founded on freedom. Compare all you want but I don't seem to remember Washington having castrated slave boys. Roman's were sick European freaks, Americans were hard working society builders... Romans were disgusting sadists, sure Americans fought a lot so did the Romans but our leader's weren't despots, besides bad politics they never reveled in torture and murder.

[Strabo1993]

Are you seriously calling a civilisation of millions of people stretched over a thousand years of history universally sick people?

First, it was the Greeks who were kiddie-fiddlers, not the Romans. Furthermore, the Romans never reveled in Torture and murder - the Colosseum was built in Imperial times and unlike popular perceptions, it was a very rare thing for a Gladiator to die.

If a Roman were to visit a Western country, it would be them calling us debased - not the other way around.

[HistorysMysterys]

WTF are you just biased or what?

So your telling me that all history is just a lie... Who the hell were the Gladiators fighting? OTHER GLADIATORS TO THE DEATH! Jesus man do you even know Roman history? Countless civil wars, Spartacus, assassinations...

Caligula, Nero Tiberius... All tyrants. Nero killed his own family members, Christian's, and he had a thing for little boys and castration. Maybe I've been told lies but watch the movie Quo Vadi's if you have time and you will see Romes tyrany.

[DouglasEdward84]

What a bizzare generalization. The early republic was not the Rome that you describe the later actions of the profilgate emperors is also not a reflection of an entire populace. The roman republic was an idea of political freedom from the previous roman monarchy. If you look at the original romans you will see a society of citizen soldiers and hard workers. The american constitution is very similar to the roman system of government. The parrallels are fascinating if you stop being hysterical

[HistorysMysterys]

How am I being hysterical? I was just speaking the truth historically speaking. Octavian was a good enough ruler but then there were mistakes such as Caligula and Nero. My point is even the founding was rich with violence, civil wars and rape. In fact I've heard many of the early Roman kings raped in order to build there empire. Perhaps we read different history accounts but I know what I'm talking about. Almost no empire who ever existed had as many different civil wars as Rome did.

[DouglasEdward84]

Romans as "sick european freaks" and as all child molesters that was pretty hysterical. Sexual abuse has happened across all eras of history, Yes Rome had its share of violence in its founding but so has every society, the United States has its own legacy of slavery, indentured servitude and look at what happened to the Native americans in Canada and the States I agree that this isn't justification for Romes brutality, but to not notice the similarities in the fall of Rome with the states is odd

[gtao22]

Rome was a paragon of patriarchal war economy just like any structured institutionalized city state (Rome, London, Washington) even today where power is monopolzed by a supreme male ruler or a subtitute patriarchal female ruler. The trick is don't share power, create rarety creating dependance & slavery for the many. It's the old illusion of materialistic empire & it's about to bite the dust one more time. New world order is very old & corrupt.

[TWKang]

Is it really appropriate to compare two systems that are very different to one another?

[NewChristianSoldiers]

Business Owners NOT Paying Taxes!

I work in sales and talk to alot of small and medium sized business owners and in many States they are joining together and will not file or pay ANY taxes this year in protest.

I guess the best way to destroy a tyrannical government is to bankrupt it... kill it.

[mogodbilealadamnbama]

Know of anyone doing that in Georgia? I'm a small business owner myself, and I'd happily join that club!

[jimbobubbadj]

@mogodbilealadamnbama Dittos!

[jimbobubbadj]

@NewChristianSoldiers Dittos!

[CoinsFreedom]

The cost or nenewing my truck registration just increased 125% here in NY. I am a small business owner and I hand them my bank account every April 15

They only leave enough to work for them, but soon I will just fall into debt to the IRS. It is coming. I guess they will take what's left of my IRA. Gold and silver physical bullion is real money.

[jimbobubbadj]

@CoinsFreedom I run a small business also. The trend is that the same thing is going to happen to me. Its the small businesses that make the country go round.

[laplante31]

Im always amazed at the content people find and then take there free time to put it up for others. Thanks for the good stuff man.

[whiskerchild]

Tons of food for thought.

Thanx

[truthsabre7]

Roman money became so worthless you could only pay your taxes in gold or silver.

[jimbobubbadj]

@truthsabre7 A good history lesson for the USA!

[focus21x]

Lesson?--It is enormously important to limit the power of the government, for example, the power of manipulating taxes, and especially the vicious non-right to confiscate property, including gold and silver.

[psbyowner]

government is now a violation of public trust... by definition.

[countesslilla]

Sorry, no definition of the word government includes a reference to the violation of public trust.

I appreciate what you are trying to say, but you need to learn the English with which to say it.

[MengersDisciple]

... and history repeats itself.

Great post, thanks!

[kingtafari9]

no its not

[UnoRaza]

@MengersDisciple "... and history repeats itself. "

Or is it a business model? (Along with the "Oops Business Model" where human errors can be used for advantage.)