When I first got to university I was surprised to find out that some of the professors were horrible at teaching! :-( They may be very competant in their field of studies, but it seems like sometimes their ability to pass on their knowledge to others wasn't given much of a look at.
Of course, from what I've seen from these videos that certainly isn't the case at Nottingham! ;)
i should have moved to england and went to nottingham. sfu is a joke; most of the profs are unmotivated and incompetent. some of them are utterly clueless. i don't want to know what the hiring process is like.
Or you can just go to eastern europe and buy the god damn degree here for money if you really want it, most people here just buy their diplomas, higher education prettty much non-existant here..
Grant money is one of the biggest problems with science today. Science needs more money but it seems governments and people general feel that fighting wars, maintaining prisons and giving to corporations is more important then good science.
If anything universities are oversaturated now, less people should be in universities not more. Due to everyone having an undergraduate degree in the job market , going to university for the undergrad is the bare minimum nowadays. You need to either do research/train for work in a graduate school or obtain a masters/PhD.
@Tactic11 Not necessarily: john nash received a doctorate on a 28 page thesis (but then again he did won the nobel prize partly due to that paper...). So less likely but possible nonetheless.
The Most successful scientists are those who apply their knowledge, patent a device, product or idea and then start a company. The beauty of it is then you can go fund whatever research you want. And all the professors would be grovelling to an undergraduate for research grants.
In the USA my tuition just went 45%. Forty five fucking percent. Paying $1000. for an "online" class. Add $200- $1000. for books per course. USA the banks and corporations are stealing from the people. This is making everything cost go up up up. It's called Paying Corporate Rent. PS. the IRS and Central Bankers are the same people. the IRS mafia collects the money to pay to the central bankers as "interest." Both were invented the same year, two bookends.
Although, I suppose one must enjoy an element of showmanship to want to lecture in front of crowds of undergraduates. Transmitting information to crowds of students at 9am doesn't seem like a great use of a good thinker's time though, if you ask me.
I feel it is a pity actually that the system is this competitive. It ends up just selecting for the most aggressive individuals (whether it be in terms of personality, intellect, or whatever), which is not necessarily the best state of affairs. We get people who are showy instead of people who are thinkers,
Researchers, in general, are not necessarily trained to teach... that is one hole in the schooling. Some of the top universities require PhD students to do some teaching, as a teaching assistant. This is very useful.
I also disagree, in high school and primary school my teachers were morons. University lecturers actually know what they are talking about and whether they are good at teaching or not doesn't really matter because in the end you'll always be teaching it to yourself, you just want to know the information you are receiving is correct and that you are being marked by people who are capable.
So, that would be my point! Entirely in fact. They are more knowledgeable and often less able to 'teach' due to no training in 'teaching'. Yes, its a more about taking things on yourself, but a lecturer becoming a professor is nothing to do with entering the top of the teaching ladder.... it's much more selfish (only for the student that is) than that, its becomes more and more about the research.
Top of the ladder, well, that depends on you're focus. Teaching certainly not.
British Public needs more videos like this and universities must open the doors for ordinary public. Government must introduce and motivate Ordinary Public towards education & research and must show the importance of knowledge for society.
If student learning skills have not been developed by high school then it is unlikely that they can survive academic testing system at university level. To be successful at university level students must possess following s skills:
Writing & Language Skills, Mathematical skills, IT Skills and interest and experience of the subject area.
Ya i know that, that's what i said. You said that the universities must open their doors to the ordinary public, which implied that they were shutting ordinary people out.
In fact the problem lies in the secondary schools, universities are just as open, if not more so, as they used to be.
What skill level do you think is needed? Nearly everybody going to university will have GCSE maths.
IT skills are being acquired through practice not teaching, so high school has very little affect on a pupils IT skill, the exam boards think we know how paper offices work so that's what the teaching goes towards.
English skills worry me though, I struggle to write coursework at length and I have never been asked to do an essay of my own choice.
If student learning skills have not been developed by high school then it is unlikely that they can survive academic testing system at university level. To be successful at university level students must possess following s skills:
Writing & Language Skills, Mathematical skills, IT Skills and interest and experience of the subject area.
Well done! it's nice to hear good things and how well people are doing. Stuff like this should be in the public eye like the news, radio, papers etc etc which can encourge others to go for it.
Whilst doing your post doc research you must allow your mentor to steal your ideas and work. The murky bit of getting a fellowship involves sucking up to every Tom, Dick and Harry in a position of power over your life and work. As a junior lecturer you must put up with all the wingeing undergraduates, and if you don't hand out enough pass marks, you're in trouble. To climb the academic ladder, you'll need to wear sharp crampons to tread on anyone below you + have dangly bits, that helps too.
id rather just buy a shed for the garden nothing is impossible can smoke a pipe too when i want without having my intelligence insulted and all the authority rubbish of those above because they could afford a dictionary that can mimic it like a parrot i believe we need this system as it motivates people to progress, do well and provide for familys but isnt for me plus i like to learn things that cant be read from a book
There are at my university (manchester) but then it is reknowned internationally (although I thought many were). We have a lot of chinese lecturers and asians and a few fins too.
Very interesting. Is it worth climbing the ladder? for example at what stage would the most productive work be done? Also on highly technical papers, how can another be the judge if the work is not fully understood by them. Finally do politics with the small p come into play. Thanks.
There is a huge downside that often goes unsaid, relating to the pressure to get grants. Science suffers as a result because honestly stuff gets through that is just a rehashing of previous work. Is this the case with Chemistry?
@lvecsey Lets not forget, the Military loves to get their fingers in these things as well, at least in the States. They exert an enormous amount of influence on research grants and funding when it comes to the Sciences. They have the big purse, and they want technology. All while the student, none the wiser, works away on experiments for various aspects of a military use technology. Needed work, but its been overdone.The undue influence of needed grant money often drive the direction of Science.
brilliant video
Greylin91 1 month ago
Student of today...SUPERHERO OF TOMMOROW. HERE I COME 500 PAGE THESIS!!! Cant wait.
cutiecookie23 2 months ago 4
I want to be a professor maybe when I grow up.
TheNeptuneStudios 3 months ago
Fuck
system0system0 4 months ago
@system0system0 shit
Coffeeisnecessary 2 months ago
just got my BS and.fuuuuuck this.
chromosome24 5 months ago
@chromosome24 lol
aluisious 1 day ago
This is scary :/
shaneymane15 6 months ago
anyone know how difficult it is for a foreigner (asian) to become a research fellow and progress into a professor
exzau 7 months ago
@exzau If you live in asia, you wont be a foreigner I guess... so whats your problem? :-/
WaterPocket 2 months ago
When I first got to university I was surprised to find out that some of the professors were horrible at teaching! :-( They may be very competant in their field of studies, but it seems like sometimes their ability to pass on their knowledge to others wasn't given much of a look at.
Of course, from what I've seen from these videos that certainly isn't the case at Nottingham! ;)
DrSaxxy 7 months ago
@DrSaxxy .... hahahahaaa ... =))
stovena 6 months ago
i should have moved to england and went to nottingham. sfu is a joke; most of the profs are unmotivated and incompetent. some of them are utterly clueless. i don't want to know what the hiring process is like.
reinux 7 months ago
50-500 pg??? shit!!! I can barley write a 25 pg research paper, and it feels like if I wrote the encyclopedia Britannica :-(
juanarruti 8 months ago
I would never stay in school straight off that long, ugh. I'd end up shooting myself. Good for them though...
lockheed22 8 months ago
Congratulations to all who were promoted! I'm sure it was well deserved.
boldger13 9 months ago
Or you can just go to eastern europe and buy the god damn degree here for money if you really want it, most people here just buy their diplomas, higher education prettty much non-existant here..
SonicYouthXXX 9 months ago
amazing men :) I aspire to follow my dreams just as these great men have
Trollingwithmyhomies 10 months ago
Grant money is one of the biggest problems with science today. Science needs more money but it seems governments and people general feel that fighting wars, maintaining prisons and giving to corporations is more important then good science.
thesparitan 10 months ago
If anything universities are oversaturated now, less people should be in universities not more. Due to everyone having an undergraduate degree in the job market , going to university for the undergrad is the bare minimum nowadays. You need to either do research/train for work in a graduate school or obtain a masters/PhD.
roflawlmao123 10 months ago
50-500 pages WTF thats crazy
Iattacku 11 months ago
LOL. How do you become a professor? Publish as much crap as you can so that your CV looks good.
Tradd9 11 months ago
Congrats to you all!
mvszao 11 months ago
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microspark 1 year ago
50-500 page paper?
I will assume, the 50 page paper is the D paper.
Tactic11 1 year ago
@Tactic11 Agreed. My undergrad thesis was longer than that.
GuavaJ3nny 1 year ago
@Tactic11 Not necessarily: john nash received a doctorate on a 28 page thesis (but then again he did won the nobel prize partly due to that paper...). So less likely but possible nonetheless.
zece51 11 months ago
500 pages? oh fml.
SuperCorey95 1 year ago 4
@SuperCorey95 i know... sounds horrible D:
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sanikadisanyaka 1 year ago
Wow this has made me realise how far away i am from this....
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twatkins55 1 year ago
@devilraydude76
At my junior college all the professors are very approachable.
Apparently when you get to 4-year universities "sometimes" the professors get a sense of self-importance and are less approachable.
However I understand there are still very approachable professors at 4-year universities. You just have to find them.
Look up your professor's office hours and meet them then. They are REQUIRED to be there during those times.
christoph2005 1 year ago
50 to *500* pages?!!?!
DeltaPhi79 1 year ago 4
@DeltaPhi79 that would be funny to describe a little equation in 50 pages or 500 pages
buckeye78353 1 year ago 2
@buckeye78353 Yeah. Pretty much XD.
DeltaPhi79 1 year ago
@DeltaPhi79
in short
you have to write a book.
entoris476 1 year ago
Very very informative, and I know it's late but congrats on the promotions, guys!
smbhax 1 year ago
awssssooommmeeee video. it taught me soo much
thanks :)
kamalbhanot 1 year ago
I think the system in the US is more flexible. From what I understand it is alot easier to switch fields than anywhere else.
SuperTechieJ 1 year ago
Excellent information, no-one has ever explained this to me before.
BobStinkfulla 1 year ago
hey if any of you are scientists like me, come to my channel and discuss scientific issues
TheSciTalk 1 year ago
The Most successful scientists are those who apply their knowledge, patent a device, product or idea and then start a company. The beauty of it is then you can go fund whatever research you want. And all the professors would be grovelling to an undergraduate for research grants.
TheSciTalk 1 year ago
I want to be a professor, getting there sounds hard, but it is worth it.
TheScienceiscool 1 year ago 3
Aww, who made the cute drawing of flowers and hearts in the background? =D
ElveeKaye 2 years ago 2
edit: went up 45% percent. this is in-state tuition at a public university.
Joeey 2 years ago
In the USA my tuition just went 45%. Forty five fucking percent. Paying $1000. for an "online" class. Add $200- $1000. for books per course. USA the banks and corporations are stealing from the people. This is making everything cost go up up up. It's called Paying Corporate Rent. PS. the IRS and Central Bankers are the same people. the IRS mafia collects the money to pay to the central bankers as "interest." Both were invented the same year, two bookends.
Joeey 2 years ago
Although, I suppose one must enjoy an element of showmanship to want to lecture in front of crowds of undergraduates. Transmitting information to crowds of students at 9am doesn't seem like a great use of a good thinker's time though, if you ask me.
snoktruix 2 years ago
I feel it is a pity actually that the system is this competitive. It ends up just selecting for the most aggressive individuals (whether it be in terms of personality, intellect, or whatever), which is not necessarily the best state of affairs. We get people who are showy instead of people who are thinkers,
snoktruix 2 years ago
=Dmgvfmhv
kiorto2 2 years ago
Dream = PhD in biochemistry
=D
karlkarlkarl1234 2 years ago 4
Congratulations to all of you !!!!
I hold you all in high regards !!
obscurusvita 2 years ago 2
Congratulations to all of you !
Roddyoneeye 2 years ago
The students make the professor is the only true
friendly
9temps 2 years ago
attaching subtitles to this video would be useful .
tabula1rasa 2 years ago
Turn up your volume.
Chobonaru 2 years ago
Worst 'teachers' I ever had were in University. Hardly the top of the ladder, just the top of the research ladder.
Silumnet 2 years ago
Agreed!
josetogan 2 years ago
Researchers, in general, are not necessarily trained to teach... that is one hole in the schooling. Some of the top universities require PhD students to do some teaching, as a teaching assistant. This is very useful.
foozlefoozle 2 years ago
Disagree here, teachers can 'teach' but they won't know what skills they should teach as well as the researchers in universities.
mehandas 2 years ago 2
The 'skills' aren't the problem.
Of course the lecturers (on average) are going to know their field better than your average hs teacher, that's not the point I'm making.
Silumnet 2 years ago
I also disagree, in high school and primary school my teachers were morons. University lecturers actually know what they are talking about and whether they are good at teaching or not doesn't really matter because in the end you'll always be teaching it to yourself, you just want to know the information you are receiving is correct and that you are being marked by people who are capable.
moyga 2 years ago 7
So, that would be my point! Entirely in fact. They are more knowledgeable and often less able to 'teach' due to no training in 'teaching'. Yes, its a more about taking things on yourself, but a lecturer becoming a professor is nothing to do with entering the top of the teaching ladder.... it's much more selfish (only for the student that is) than that, its becomes more and more about the research.
Top of the ladder, well, that depends on you're focus. Teaching certainly not.
Silumnet 2 years ago
Great Video
British Public needs more videos like this and universities must open the doors for ordinary public. Government must introduce and motivate Ordinary Public towards education & research and must show the importance of knowledge for society.
GULAMEMUSTAFA1 2 years ago 39
Their doors are open to more or less anyone. Problem is more in the secondary schools, they don't do a good job of educating everybody these days.
Retsam19 2 years ago 5
you're right, I have just came out of an awful secondary school. It seems you have to pay to get a good education
hayeder 2 years ago 3
If student learning skills have not been developed by high school then it is unlikely that they can survive academic testing system at university level. To be successful at university level students must possess following s skills:
Writing & Language Skills, Mathematical skills, IT Skills and interest and experience of the subject area.
GULAMEMUSTAFA1 2 years ago
Ya i know that, that's what i said. You said that the universities must open their doors to the ordinary public, which implied that they were shutting ordinary people out.
In fact the problem lies in the secondary schools, universities are just as open, if not more so, as they used to be.
Retsam19 2 years ago 2
What skill level do you think is needed? Nearly everybody going to university will have GCSE maths.
IT skills are being acquired through practice not teaching, so high school has very little affect on a pupils IT skill, the exam boards think we know how paper offices work so that's what the teaching goes towards.
English skills worry me though, I struggle to write coursework at length and I have never been asked to do an essay of my own choice.
Nashy119 2 years ago
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If student learning skills have not been developed by high school then it is unlikely that they can survive academic testing system at university level. To be successful at university level students must possess following s skills:
Writing & Language Skills, Mathematical skills, IT Skills and interest and experience of the subject area.
GULAMEMUSTAFA1 2 years ago
wow this'll definately help me to know how become a proffessor one day great vid!
Jtking3000 2 years ago
What an insight! So interesting and a revelation about what it takes to become a professor. What an achievement, well done. Not sure I could do it!
gilesy5 2 years ago
1:16 = fat Rimmer.
gnamp 2 years ago
After all that you get a proper job
tonydaguk 2 years ago
That's very usefull!
JackToBeNumberOne 2 years ago
Great video, this is interesting for information as I am planing on doing my PHD next year.
ShadowlostArts 2 years ago 2
Well done! it's nice to hear good things and how well people are doing. Stuff like this should be in the public eye like the news, radio, papers etc etc which can encourge others to go for it.
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dsadasdaa2 2 years ago
I've never even thought about this, very interesting video.
puretroubleman 2 years ago
Just give the Dean £500.00 that should do it the easy way :)
Films4You 3 years ago
Whilst doing your post doc research you must allow your mentor to steal your ideas and work. The murky bit of getting a fellowship involves sucking up to every Tom, Dick and Harry in a position of power over your life and work. As a junior lecturer you must put up with all the wingeing undergraduates, and if you don't hand out enough pass marks, you're in trouble. To climb the academic ladder, you'll need to wear sharp crampons to tread on anyone below you + have dangly bits, that helps too.
YourTeacherLE 3 years ago 5
Im glad I dont have any ambitions to go that far. Sounds awful actually.
Findulidas 3 years ago
id rather just buy a shed for the garden nothing is impossible can smoke a pipe too when i want without having my intelligence insulted and all the authority rubbish of those above because they could afford a dictionary that can mimic it like a parrot i believe we need this system as it motivates people to progress, do well and provide for familys but isnt for me plus i like to learn things that cant be read from a book
buzzjunked 2 years ago
Thank you Ive always wanted to know what the career path of an academic was.
andrebrannan1953 3 years ago
There are at my university (manchester) but then it is reknowned internationally (although I thought many were). We have a lot of chinese lecturers and asians and a few fins too.
CoolMinty 3 years ago
Are there any lecturers or above in the UK of foreign nationality? How common is that? I have heard it is not possible unless you're British.
Wonderboy0046 3 years ago
and that is why I'm not a professor...
Craydon 3 years ago 5
A lovely clear explanation of the process. Thank you ;¬) and congratulations to th the lucky newly promoted threesome!
CoolMinty 3 years ago
Very interesting. Is it worth climbing the ladder? for example at what stage would the most productive work be done? Also on highly technical papers, how can another be the judge if the work is not fully understood by them. Finally do politics with the small p come into play. Thanks.
itsabomberscope 3 years ago
There is a huge downside that often goes unsaid, relating to the pressure to get grants. Science suffers as a result because honestly stuff gets through that is just a rehashing of previous work. Is this the case with Chemistry?
lvecsey 3 years ago 22
@lvecsey Lets not forget, the Military loves to get their fingers in these things as well, at least in the States. They exert an enormous amount of influence on research grants and funding when it comes to the Sciences. They have the big purse, and they want technology. All while the student, none the wiser, works away on experiments for various aspects of a military use technology. Needed work, but its been overdone.The undue influence of needed grant money often drive the direction of Science.
painxtreme 5 months ago
Wow, you guys even have peer review for promotions.
That's so awesome.
sy1234 3 years ago 2
How UK-exclusive is this? Or does it apply to the rest of Europe or N. America as well?
lennarttrouborst 3 years ago
> How UK-exclusive is this? Or does it apply to the rest of Europe or N. America as well?
It's very exclusive to them.
sy1234 3 years ago
Interesting, thanks.
revender13 3 years ago